Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3080615]Another nice report with a happy pre-negotiated BBFSCIP ending. Keep it going! I had the pleasure of breeding with this lovely uni student last night for 4000 bhat with another 500 bhat tip for her over the top service. She was so PINK and cute smiling with her braces. In the Bangkok market, [B]money talks[/B] when it comes to [U]breeding[/U] with talent that is young, cute, petite, no baby, no tats and without silicone injected everywhere. Unicorns. Enjoy, AR.

Not as fucking annoying as the self-appointed Price Police long quote posting as if their opinion about an extra brown or purple note here or there matters.[/QUOTE]Hey man, You need to delete some messages. I am trying to reply you LOL.

Also, How old? Where you find her at? Streets? Gogos? I would be very curious to know in order to take a shot there next time I am around.

Time to talk about some massage salon misadventures. I read a lot of Werqweq's posts about the massage salon girls, both "normal" and sexual, so I decided to give it a go. However, let's just say my experiences were not so great LOL.

First one I went to was "Sapornsawon" Massage or some shit on Soi 22. I'the noticed it a couple times coming out of "Thanya Health Massage" and thought it might be interesting to give it a go. Chose a pretty young woman whose name I cannot remember. She was Short.

Sorta blondish hair. If I had to guess, I'the say she was probably 1921 maybe? I paid the 550 baht for the "oil massage," and off we went. Anyway, not a lot of personality other than guiding me to the room and into the shower. But she was friendly enough, I suppose.

I finished showering and laid on the table. Decent enough massage. On the flip, no sign of extras, nor did I push for any. Werqweq mentions some type of technique of "gently" moving her hand towards your junk, but I figured I am not that advanced yet LOL.

Anyway, I was surprised when she suddenly said, "Okay, you are good," and time was up. No extras offered. I walked out disappointed and figured I'd try another. My second (and last) attempt was at another small massage place whose name escapes me (Mekkehi?) that I found while walking near, I believe, Soi 22 or 33.

Can't remember which. Anyway, I pop over there and choose a decently attractive girl, maybe 23 or so? In any case, same deal as the last one. Paid for the "oil massage," like 500 baht or something, and went to the room for the shower, etc. I laid on the table, and the massage was okay from what I remember.

The crazy part was on the flip. Once turned over, of course she asks, "You want special massage, right?" and I went, "Yes, but what all can you do?

She replies, "Oh no, only massage with handjob for 3000. ".

I Grimace and make a face, and she starts giving me a sales pitch about how she can do it professionally, how she is so much better than other girls, how she will be naked, and I can touch her, and blah blah blah; all the while I am rolling my eyes.

I pulled out Google Translate and typed, "I will pay 500 baht for a handjob. I do not need you to be naked. Okay?" Of course, she gets an attitude and says, "No. There is no 500. Only 3000, blah blah blah. " She tried to get me to go down to 2000 baht but no touching. I said no thanks.

I could tell it was going nowhere, so I just said, "Fine, massage only," and she said, "Fine, up to you, sir," with a hint of attitude. Needless to say, no tip for her. Based on forum reports, I expected her to fold lmao. Guess it really is YMMV.

Anyway, I thought it was hilarious she thought a naked HJ with touching was worth 3000 baht. I have received BBFSCIP from cute ThaiFriendly girls for 1500 baht no questions asked lmao. Not fucking happening. That was it wasting time with those spots.

Any advice for these places?

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3080718]
Any advice for these places?[/QUOTE]All I can say is: come to Thailand as often as you can, in order to get more experienced. These girls know exactly who's a newby, and who's a veteran. You cannot hide that you're a newby, no matter how hard you try. Reading this forum and knowing the correct prices helps of course, but it's just a start.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080643]But I am somewhat optimistic because I believe I will find my preferred Go Go's rather quickly where the staff including the girls will realize what I will tolerate thus the begging for tips and hounding for extra drinks will be kept at a minimum. [/QUOTE]Don't worry Axel, when I visited a few agogo's back in May, both in BKK and Pattaya, nobody asked me for a tip. Lady drinks, yes, but that's inevitable, unless you pick a girl and barfine her right away.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080643] Thai punters do not put up with this (tip, sir, tip, sir) crap. Its unbecoming.[/QUOTE]Thai punters do not put up with this because they know how to say no.

Nothing has changed in this regard since last time you were in a gogo. Mamas, waitress, managers, your desired girl's friends have all been asking for tips or drinks for ever.

Mr Boobs didn't know he won't get beaten by just saying no to all these parasitic people.

Plus the place he reported on is well known to be filled with drink hustlers. Go in Billboard, Geisha, Rainbow 5 or Twister and nobody will pester you for drinks, except some lonely dancers when they are not on stage, and they move away immediately when you are not interested.

And I would add that Thailand does not have a tipping culture in the same way that the US, but they still tip. It is incorrect to think they never tip anywhere they go. Massage places, taxi drivers, some restaurants, Thai drinking bars or establishments, Thai patrons leave tips in all these places and you look like cheapskates when you don't do it.

[QUOTE=Pokler;3080684]The all in you refer to is about 10 k or $300 which are NYC prices. Now if it was 2 pops and or 2 hours then ok. If not then paying NYC prices in Bangkok just tells me something ain't adding up.[/QUOTE]By "all in for that part of it" I meant just the barfine and girl's fee part of it. However many drinks the punter wants to imbibe or LDs he wants to buy from girl to girl or bar to bar until he feels he struck gold is variable and not what I was including in the "all in for that part of it."

On the one hand, the cost of his drinks is to also cover the "entertainment value" of watching scantily clad ladies dance on a stage. The cost of her drinks covers the pleasure of her up close and mildly personal company sitting next to him. Those are different expenditures for different reasons.

Therefore, if a punter pays 1000 baht for the barfine and either 4000 baht or 5000 baht to a hard drugs-free, smooth and clean 23 year old, barely tattooed, sweet and loving gogo bargirl level hottie who agrees upfront before any barfine has been paid to deliver DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP with no further discussion or hassle about it in the bar or in the room later, as appears to have been the case in this FR, that extraordinarily valuable commodity is going to cost that punter 5,000 baht or 6,000 baht "all in for that part of it."

Which at today's USD exchange rate is about $153 or $184.

If you can score that kind of value in NYC or any major USA city with I should add several dozen similar scantily clad young lady options within spitting distance and not just that one girl for $153 to $184, then I agree with you. I would stay in NYC and never board a plane for Thailand ever again.

Yeah, then staying in NYC or Des Moine is a much better deal.

Occasionally some mother fucker will take swipes at old, fat, bald men who relate their experiences with Thailand's "nightlife" from years (maybe decades) ago. That neo monger seems to delight in bragging about his conquests and size of his dick or his "stack", while discounting the very real fact that the older contributors possess the equivalent of "corporate history". That is, information that can help a member here avoid the very real pitfalls that can ruin a night out or a life.

I'm 84 and there are a lot of members here who are 60+. I have personally known at least 2 for a minimum of 2 decades. I might know others, but the usage of different board names on different forums can make it difficult to know for sure.

In my 30's and 40's, it was common for me to bang at least 2 Thai girls per day. Sometimes up to 4 shots per day. I spent most of my budget on "nightlife". The rest I just pissed away.

As decades pass, most men will experience a number of inescapable facts of life which they can't control. A mother fucker can go to the gym 12 hours per day, but his testosterone levels will be diminish. He has a decent chance to acquire prostate cancer or other biological malady. His alleged stack will not prevent that. Nor will having a dick the size of a radiator hose.

Nightlife venues change names and options increase, prices rise, and new scams pop up yearly. Yet, a lot associated with procuring "ladies of the night" remains the same. Whether it is engaging for a few minutes or a few days or longer. Old, fat (and thin) bald men here can help navigate today's scene if some mother-fucking mother fucker stays in his lane.

Below, an old, fat, bald dude proving a point: providers don't charge according to age or weight or hair on your head. They might prefer young, fit, BTS types, but, in the end, they'll do what comes naturally for baht.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080761]By "all in for that part of it" I meant just the barfine and girl's fee part of it. However many drinks the punter wants to imbibe or LDs he wants to buy from girl to girl or bar to bar until he feels he struck gold is variable and not what I was including in the "all in for that part of it."

On the one hand, the cost of his drinks is to also cover the "entertainment value" of watching scantily clad ladies dance on a stage. The cost of her drinks covers the pleasure of her up close and mildly personal company sitting next to him. Those are different expenditures for different reasons.

Therefore, if a punter pays 1000 baht for the barfine and either 4000 baht or 5000 baht to a hard drugs-free, smooth and clean 23 year old, barely tattooed, sweet and loving gogo bargirl level hottie who agrees upfront before any barfine has been paid to deliver DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP with no further discussion or hassle about it in the bar or in the room later, as appears to have been the case in this FR, that extraordinarily valuable commodity is going to cost that punter 5,000 baht or 6,000 baht "all in for that part of it."

Which at today's USD exchange rate is about $153 or $184.

If you can score that kind of value in NYC or any major USA city with I should add several dozen similar scantily clad young lady options within spitting distance and not just that one girl for $153 to $184, then I agree with you. I would stay in NYC and never board a plane for Thailand ever again.

Yeah, then staying in NYC or Des Moine is a much better deal.[/QUOTE]Does your example assume one pop and done? Is the duration of the session 60 min
or until ejaculation which ever comes first, or a few hours and 2 pops?

Makes a big difference to us multi poppers.

Okay, I consider myself somewhat of a prostate massage enthusiast. As a matter of fact, I originally first came to Bangkok because my favorite providers here in Hawaii are all Thai LOL. So, of course, I'd be interested in the source.

On my first trip, I visited places like Thanya Health Massage, which provides an excellent prostate service, as well as some of the lesser sex-massage shops on Soi 22, which I don't really consider legit prostate massage.

For this trip, though, I did some research and discovered a shop run by a woman named "Jenny" called "K&P Prostate and Wellness" or some type of shit at 1/8 Pracha Rat Bamphen Rd. Apparently, it's a "non-erotic" medical thing. I somehow find that debatable LOL.

I contacted Jenny on LINE, and setting up an appointment was easy. Very responsive. I chose the 3,500-baht "4 treatment" two-hour massage, including HJ, krasai, prostate, etc.

My first therapist was "Bella," who gave an incredible massage and probably one of the best prostate massages I've ever received. I love when they press inside and it feels like cum is dripping / leaking out of your dick without you actually cumming. Feels so fucking good.

Bella was a little talkative, though, asking things like, "How's it feel? Like you have to pee or poop?" I'm like, OMG, shut up lmao. Still, great first session.

The only new thing for me was "krasai," which, from what I can tell, involves ball massage / squeezing / pinching. Got to admit, it hurts a little, but I find the pain slightly arousing LOL. They'll adjust the pressure if needed. Everything is pay after.

Now, the real reason for this report: Dena.

I returned a couple days later and got set up with this nice young woman who gave me one of, if not the best, massage / prostate massages I've ever received. Lots of attention to the back, shoulders, buttocks, feet, etc. , with good pressure. It actually feels quite professional. Throughout the session, she would check how everything felt and genuinely seemed concerned about your comfort.

There are basically two parts. She puts on gloves, asks you to assume the position (doggy), and starts with a lot of ball / ass play. Dena had a technique I have never experienced before where she literally massaged around the outside of the asshole lmao. Got to say, I enjoyed it. Eventually, she moves into the prostate massage from behind, lubing everything up and working the prostate while jerking you off. Amazing. Throughout, she'll ask, "If pain, let me know, okay?

After a while, you flip onto your back for more massage of the legs and arms, followed by the ball massage, literal dick massage, krasai, etc. The krasai can hurt a little, but Dena will happily adjust or stop if it's too much.

I will admit it's quite amusing seeing a super-professional young woman quietly working on / massaging your dick and balls with a completely neutral expression. She caught me peeking a couple times LOL.

Eventually comes the finale: She will blind fold/cover your eyes and give you a prostate massage from the front while being jerked off. Keep in mind, this is supposedly a "non-erotic" or "medical" massage, so she'll calmly ask, "You want to cum?" "Prostate orgasm okay?" Of course, I always say yes to both LOL.

Dena uses this signature "finger twist" technique I have never experienced before that feels utterly divine. After you're done quivering and exploding (very intense), you clean up, pay, and leave. Normal shit.

I mention Dena specifically because she was so good that I asked Mamasan about her on the way out, since Dena herself is super shy and speaks basically no English. Turns out she's the youngest therapist available (about 24-26, if I recall correctly) and is a true talent.

Usually, the TRUE prostate massage ladies are almost invariably older and less attractive, and frankly, I prefer it. Dena, however, is still young, fairly cute (for a prostate massage girl), very quiet, shy, and humble. She's damn good for being that young, and I'm glad I caught her at this stage in the game.

No tip expected, but I saw her twice and tipped 200 baht extra both times. Young talent like this needs to be incentivized / rewarded.

Unfortunately, there was no third visit because she was on holiday until the 16th, so I was shit out of luck.

Please be kind to her.


https://www.kasaiprostate.com

[QUOTE=Pokler;3080802]Does your example assume one pop and done? Is the duration of the session 60 min
or until ejaculation which ever comes first, or a few hours and 2 pops?

Makes a big difference to us multi poppers.[/QUOTE]That is something to be negotiated between you and the gogo girl. There is no handbook for pops and duration that the girl or the customer must follow and abide by. Maybe in some girl's cases the 1000 baht barfine plus 5000 baht to her is a 3 hour 2 pop session while the 1000 baht barfine plus 4000 baht to her is a 1 hour 1 pop session. Or maybe you get that 3 hour 2 pop deal for 1000 bafine plus 3000 baht to her on the last day of the month when her already one month past due rent must be paid or bye-bye, it's 2 am and raining out really hard.

I don't know; how many pops for how many hours do you usually get for $153 USD in NYC with your dozens of 23 year old, sweet natured, clean, hard drug-free smooth, slim and curvy Bangkok gogo bar level hotties there?

Of course, there is another aspect of this occasional comparison someone should mention. But shhhh. Don't tell anyone. Um. What you and your 23 year old hottie discretely arranged for and then did in your hotel room in Thailand isn't a crime, there is no section or citation for it in any legally enforceable Code, Act or legislation, there has never been nor will there be when you get to your hotel room a police sting operation set up by her, by the hotel, by the police or by anyone else in Thailand that might get you and / or your girl arrested, jailed, charged, tried, convicted or punished for it in any way.

Just sayin'.

Is that also the deal in NYC?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3080747]Don't worry Axel, when I visited a few agogo's back in May, both in BKK and Pattaya, nobody asked me for a tip. Lady drinks, yes, but that's inevitable, unless you pick a girl and barfine her right away.[/QUOTE]I am fine with lady drinks, Mogwai. One of the reasons I prefer a favorite Go Go over Thermae is that I can audition, 555, any Go Go girl that perks my interest over a lady drink when she is not on stage. The audition should last the 20 minutes or so until it is her turn to get back on stage. Some Go Go's like Baccara always had a 2 lady drink minimum before their girls could be barfined. I accept all that. What I don't like, what I am hearing, is some bars mostly on Walking Street in Pat have waitresses that try to push more drinks in the same period or Go Go's that have "elastic" lady drink requirements. I find this kind of policy offensive and very unfriendly.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3080749]Thai punters do not put up with this because they know how to say no.

Nothing has changed in this regard since last time you were in a Go Go. Mamas, waitress, managers, your desired girl's friends have all been asking for tips or drinks for ever.[/QUOTE]Crazy House used to be one of my favorite BKK Go Go's. I was a frequent customer there and everyone knew me and treated me like a valued customer. Fat mamasan and I had an understanding. She would never ask me for a drink unless she saw I was partying and entertaining one or two of her girls, and when I was in that mode, I would always buy a round or two which included a drink for her. This same mamasan would usually comp me a drink in return. It was the same, same, kind of thing regarding my favorite waitress there who always took real good care of me. For example, if my favorite seats were taken when I arrived, she would keep an eye out for when those seats became available and make sure that nobody else could occupy them. Both ladies also made sure I was never asked to buy a drink before entering their bar. So, when I tipped these ladies, it was for the personal service they provided.

Billboard, Rainbow 5 and Twister were my favorite Nana Go Go's back in the day and I am glad to hear they are still solid. I met my #1 Thai girl of all time in Rainbow 5. I recently got in touch with her to tell her I was returning to LOS, and she was all giddy and happy but not because I was returning, rather that she had just gotten married! She showed me pics of her and her hubby and the marriage party. Hubby looked happy, sort of, 555, the poor bastard. Oh well, I am sure I will meet a few more beauties like her when I return, although I seriously doubt anyone can match her passion in bed. She used to fuck like a Brazilian! I called her my Atomic Blond. LOL.

Hello All,

I did a search but did not come up with much.

Can anyone tell me is there much happening in Chinatown? I am off to Bangkok next weekend and may try that area.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Pokler;3080802]Does your example assume one pop and done? Is the duration of the session 60 min
or until ejaculation which ever comes first, or a few hours and 2 pops?

Makes a big difference to us multi poppers.[/QUOTE]I think the "one pop or two?" question is kind of missing the bigger point. I'm in Hawaii, and an equivalent young, attractive provider here in Honolulu can easily start around $250 HH before you even start discussing anything beyond the basic service. In my experience, special requests can add another $150-$200+ for BBFS, with another $100 or so for CIP. You're already over $500+ before you know it for anything resembling GFE.

Hell, I've seen hot young women here on Seeking asking $1,000-$1,500 (with presumably CFS) for a meet. So whether the encounter was one round or two doesn't really change Eihtooms's basic argument. Getting the barfine + agreed encounter with a young gogo-level hottie for roughly $150$185 is extremely difficult to replicate in Hawaii or probably most major USA Cities. Duration matters when comparing two otherwise similar deals, sure, but it doesn't erase the massive difference between the two markets.

Regardless, it was a solid win and worth every baht in my book.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3080897]I think the "one pop or two?" question is kind of missing the bigger point. I'm in Hawaii, and an equivalent young, attractive provider here in Honolulu can easily start around $250 HH before you even start discussing anything beyond the basic service. In my experience, special requests can add another $150-$200+ for BBFS, with another $100 or so for CIP. You're already over $500+ before you know it for anything resembling GFE.

Hell, I've seen hot young women here on Seeking asking $1,000-$1,500 (with presumably CFS) for a meet. So whether the encounter was one round or two doesn't really change Eihtooms's basic argument. Getting the barfine + agreed encounter with a young gogo-level hottie for roughly $150$185 is extremely difficult to replicate in Hawaii or probably most major USA Cities. Duration matters when comparing two otherwise similar deals, sure, but it doesn't erase the massive difference between the two markets.

Regardless, it was a solid win and worth every baht in my book.[/QUOTE]I spend many winters in Waikiki and the rest of the time NYC so yeah I'm well aware of prices in the real world. But in BKK getting the young hotter for $150 in very easy. I would think 2 pops bbfscip for such a hottie can be had for 6-7 k BHT.

[QUOTE=Pokler;3080988]I spend many winters in Waikiki and the rest of the time NYC so yeah I'm well aware of prices in the real world. But in BKK getting the young hotter for $150 in very easy. I would think 2 pops bbfscip for such a hottie can be had for 6-7 k BHT.[/QUOTE]Fair point. I'm still pretty green at the gogo game and was mostly experimenting this trip, so I'm sure there's plenty of room to optimize. I was happy with the girl and the experience for 6 k, but getting a comparable hottie for 6–7 k with two pops obviously sounds like better value. Still figuring this shit out LOL.