Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;3088129]Thermae.

I dropped into this place last night. I've never seen anything like it. I guess it's a normal bar that somehow got co-opted by freelancers? This is not a civilian bar. Incredibly weird setup. One giant room with around 200 girls standing packed shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter, and then the center of the room, with couches, also packed with girls. They aren't on their phone or drinking. They are staring at you and smiling while you do laps and look at them. All are do-able, I didn't see any losers. Many extremely hot, ranging from very young to 40's. There are so many dudes being funneled around the circular 'track' that it takes a while to do the lap. I was the only white guy. Mostly Asians. Very few guys were talking to the girls. I saw a bunch I would have liked to have taken but it's an uncomfortable setup. You stand still against the tide of men passing you and negotiate with the girl in front of everyone? I don't have a problem with a street approach, but this is different. Ideally I like to just exchange WhatsApp info and then talk price and no-condom via text but this seemed difficult here. I'll probably go back tonight just to see it again.[/QUOTE]Your impression is correct. The set-up at Thermae is really the worst imaginable for getting any important negotiations done effectively. It's fine, perhaps even great for punters who are looking for covered everything, no DFK and whose only points of negotiation are for How Long, How Many Shots and For How Much, which is apparently the only points that are brought up with those ladies by their usual punter clientele.

Recently I have had ok results getting an agreement for "kissing with our tongues touching, you give me a blowjob without a condom for a few minutes and then we have sex without a condom until I finish inside", otherwise known as DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP to us, with an above average looker in Thermae showing her the Google Translate app on my phone screen, as you suggested might be the way to go.

But that was after getting shutdown and refused by several other ladies around the room before getting to her and, frankly, the experience in bed was too mechanical to warrant more than one repeat even after she pestered me for a repeat for a couple of weeks before I agreed. 5,000 baht for each session.

My most frequent "success" with above average lookers in Thermae has been to only mention "blowjob no condom until I finish 100% inside your mouth", otherwise known as BBBJCIM to us, for 2,500 - 3000 baht with an above average looker and no mention of BBFSCIP at all on the assumption that at some point an above average looker in Thermae who initially agrees to just BBBJCIM with me might then more easily agree to BBFSCIP in the room during that session or the next session or the next session.

So far that has never happened for me with an above average looker in Thermae who initially agreed to BBBJCIM but not BBFSCIP. LOL. So it's a good thing I really like BBBJCIM with above average lookers.

Thermae is a last resort for me. In high season there are few that will even make eye contact with a westerner. It's always a constant clockwise flow of Asian guys asking how much. BBFS is rare but it can happen. One issue is that they are standing so close to each other they don't want to be heard discussing it to save face. WhatsApp is a useful strategy. Find a subtle way to ask about their family and baby history. My last pull there was a recent mom and a total wreck under the hood. Good points at this place are no smoking (I think) and it's not loud. Quite a few will stand around out front after closing where the lighting is better and less awkward conversation. Hot ones are long gone though.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;3088129]Thermae.

I dropped into this place last night. I've never seen anything like it. I guess it's a normal bar that somehow got co-opted by freelancers? This is not a civilian bar. Incredibly weird setup. One giant room with around 200 girls standing packed shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter, and then the center of the room, with couches, also packed with girls. They aren't on their phone or drinking. They are staring at you and smiling while you do laps and look at them. All are do-able, I didn't see any losers. Many extremely hot, ranging from very young to 40's. There are so many dudes being funneled around the circular 'track' that it takes a while to do the lap. I was the only white guy. Mostly Asians. Very few guys were talking to the girls. I saw a bunch I would have liked to have taken but it's an uncomfortable setup. You stand still against the tide of men passing you and negotiate with the girl in front of everyone? I don't have a problem with a street approach, but this is different. Ideally I like to just exchange WhatsApp info and then talk price and no-condom via text but this seemed difficult here. I'll probably go back tonight just to see it again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;3088129]Thermae.

I dropped into this place last night. I've never seen anything like it. I guess it's a normal bar that somehow got co-opted by freelancers? This is not a civilian bar. Incredibly weird setup. One giant room with around 200 girls standing packed shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter, and then the center of the room, with couches, also packed with girls. They aren't on their phone or drinking. They are staring at you and smiling while you do laps and look at them. All are do-able, I didn't see any losers. Many extremely hot, ranging from very young to 40's. There are so many dudes being funneled around the circular 'track' that it takes a while to do the lap. I was the only white guy. Mostly Asians. Very few guys were talking to the girls. I saw a bunch I would have liked to have taken but it's an uncomfortable setup. You stand still against the tide of men passing you and negotiate with the girl in front of everyone? I don't have a problem with a street approach, but this is different. Ideally I like to just exchange WhatsApp info and then talk price and no-condom via text but this seemed difficult here. I'll probably go back tonight just to see it again.[/QUOTE]That place has always fascinated me. I come to Bangkok in December, and will be my first international mongering trip. Maybe you can go a bit early. Based on Google research, the place opens at around 8:00 PM local time. So if you go early maybe you can be more comfortable and it won't be so packed. I am not sure what time you went there. You don't say it in your post.

Again, just a friendly suggestion. Don't take my word for it. I have never been there, but do plan on going there once I come to Bangkok in exactly 1 month 24 days.

I have pulled 3 girls from there last time I was in BKK, all very pretty, no idea the age but def under 40. What I did was pull my phone out and had the following listed.

BBJ.

CIM.

DATY.

A-level.

Etc.

Or whatever else I wanted, most understood and would tell me their price or tell me no.

It is a weird setup, first time I probably 45 minutes just standing in the center with a drink or two watching the crowd and how things went. When I lost two that I was interested in (this very cute indian looking girl in a yellow dress being one) I started doing laps.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3088152]Thermae offers the worst environment for important negotiation[/QUOTE]The problem with Thermae is that even if a girl is willing to do BBFS, fisting, toe sucking, etc chances are not high that she wants 10 girls around her to hear her say yes to you.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;3088129] Very few guys were talking to the girls. [/QUOTE]

Thermae isn't a place where guys talk to girls and get to know them. It's more like a true point and shoot. I think etiquette here is to not waste more than 1-2 minutes of a girls time when you approach them.

SinCity, it's still fairly crowded just after 8, just not packed like at 9 or 10. It can be an awkward place for first timers especially if you're not used to walking up to a group of girls and asking one. Remember they are not supposed to talk to you first at Thermae. Why they'll try to stare you down or grab you as you walk by.

As always for any Thai bar, don't sit / stand with your arms crossed. Look happy and smile. Young hot Thai girls like happy jai dee, not grumpy old men.

[QUOTE=BadDances;3088197]When I lost two that I was interested in (this very cute indian looking girl in a yellow dress being one) I started doing laps.[/QUOTE]Hi, there are non-Thai ladies in Thermae café?

I have never been to Thailand and plan to visit in a few months. On the YouTube videos I have seen, I got the impression it was all Thai ladies mainly focused on Asian male customers.

[QUOTE=DeepThoughts7;3088216]Hi, there are non-Thai ladies in Thermae cafe? On the YouTube videos I have seen, I got the impression it was all Thai ladies mainly focused on Asian male customers.[/QUOTE]Wow, been a while since the last Thermae blast. Everyone has a heartfelt opinion on the place and I echo all of the comments, especially EihTooms.

To answer the question, Thermae has a few non-Thais. I know one very amiable Cambodian girl with a Japanese look who has worked out of there regularly for several years. I had originally met her at Nana Car Park and after a few hookups pointed her to Thermae as a way to improve her earnings. Being on birth control and PREP, she is always up for a load injection and gives me the same price that I paid at Nana. Sadly she has gained too much weight and I don't find her attractive. AR.

Thermae women are mostly older and chunkier. They just sit still and quiet with no talk, no expressions, no socializing, like plastic dolls.

They act like they are in control of the environment and feel superior to the men trying to buy sex from them. I have seen couple guys walk in the door, a group of women noticed, talked excitedly among themselves, showed seething anger and contempt toward those guys. These women acted very rough and rude, like gang under control of organized crime syndicates. They are the opposites of the average nice, sweet, gentle and respectful Thai women.

OTOH street girls on Sukhumvit and Soi 4 are relaxed, fun, expressive, talk, flirt, kid and negotiate with guys. I walked 1/4 mile to my hotel on Soi 4, hand in hand with a street girl like a GF. She gave me a passionate GFE in bed with love and lust, no hassling throughout the encounter.

[QUOTE=DeepThoughts7;3088216]Hi, there are non-Thai ladies in Thermae caf?

I have never been to Thailand and plan to visit in a few months. On the YouTube videos I have seen, I got the impression it was all Thai ladies mainly focused on Asian male customers.[/QUOTE]The majority of the women are Thai, though there are a few exceptions. While some are focused on Asian customers, many are happy to interact with Europeans, and probably others. I suggest giving it a try to see what you think. Showing up early-ish (opens at 8) avoids the crowds. Take a seat and see who shows up.

[QUOTE=Vicdemoan;3087594]Also read a lot about girls easily coming to hotels. I am staying in a well known building housing very many AirBnbs. Does this generally turn girls off from coming?[/QUOTE]In my experience, no, it doesn't discourage girls from coming.

I remember coming to Thermae years ago and finding an empty seat in the corner to watch and learn. I learned that if you don't have the courage to approach and negotiate in front of other mongers, then you might as well not go in (unless you just want to watch of course). I did however notice that a few guys that came in very flashy well dressed (sunglasses at night type) got more attention from the ladies.

[QUOTE=OneNightStan;3088167]Thermae is a last resort for me. In high season there are few that will even make eye contact with a westerner. It's always a constant clockwise flow of Asian guys asking how much. BBFS is rare but it can happen. One issue is that they are standing so close to each other they don't want to be heard discussing it to save face. WhatsApp is a useful strategy. Find a subtle way to ask about their family and baby history. My last pull there was a recent mom and a total wreck under the hood. Good points at this place are no smoking (I think) and it's not loud. Quite a few will stand around out front after closing where the lighting is better and less awkward conversation. Hot ones are long gone though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3087860]Do your remember where you were when you got the "hits" shown in the attached photo? And, can you share that?[/QUOTE]Asoke. Near the crossing of BTS line and MRT line. AR.

Two weeks in Bangkok, almost down. First time in Thailand. I am a seasoned veteran of the Philippines, especially Angeles City. I'll probably list some caparisons here and there. I was glad I came here. Lots to see, lots of blowjobs to acquire.

Regarding Thermae. I did notice as the only westerner, tall and handsome (ish) and young (ish) and well dressed, I didn't get the looks I'm used to in the Philippines. That is the case in most of the bars here. I think this city and the mentality are so transactional, and additionally there are lots of attractive tourists, both men and women, that the girls care much less than what I'm used to. As to the talent at Thermae, I'm telling you the night I went there were no hags, and no fatties. Even those approaching 40 were sexy. Some I felt like I needed to check ID.

I ate every night at the SW1 open air market. Tons of options and fairly cheap and I barely have an appetite here so the small portions suit me. Lots of cute girls to check out while you eat. Then every night I alternated between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. The quality of the girls at Nana was pretty incredible, especially at Billboard and those upper level bars. The rotating stage is just filled with 8's and 9's. The place is so crowded there's barely a place to sit and unless I'm on a couch I'm not calling a girl down for a drink. I probably went to 80% of the bars in Nana. Cowboy is interesting. Quality is all over the map. Some absolute stars at Dollhouse and Suzi Wong's. Those are the places where I bought the most lady drinks and grabbed the most T&A and got my dick rubbed raw. A lot of fun girls. The hole-in-the-wall bars there are generally a couple of old timers and two average girls working and asking if you want to go upstairs for a BJ. I didn't partake but I appreciated the option.

One street approach yielded great results. This was mid-day and a 30-something year old very cute woman with a nice smile just standing there along the main street. Mid-day is an odd time but it was clear what she was there for. I asked for her WhatsApp and messaged her 10 minutes later to negotiate terms when I got back to the hotel. No condom was 'ok'. Killer fit body, and incredible attentive service with a smile for 2 k, including CIP. I hit her up that night I went to Thermae for a repeat. Wanted a sure thing that fit my needs rather than wade through that chaos. Walking back from Cowboy on a few nights I would stare at the occasional street girl and smile and if she smiled back I'd approach, hoping to pull my same move to negotiate via text. No such luck: 'I go with you now I go with you now I go with you now'. So I bailed.

A buddy of mine who lives here in BK is into, let's say, the more 'alternative lifestyle' bargirls. Had drinks with him one night and he showed me around some of those bars. Pretty fun actually, although you have to be on your toes because they can be extremely aggressive. I think he wanted to try to convert me but, alas, no such luck. Still had fun. Met some nice people.

Here's where Bangkok really shined for me. The BJ bars and nuru / soapies. Damn these are great. My usual schedule was to hit either Nana or Cowboy, and then catch one of these places around midnight or later. The BJ skills these girls have are off the charts. At the nuru places a condom was unfortunately non negotiable so I put up with it briefly before just going back to the BJ. But, there is a certain BJ bar where you pick the girl from a lineup of girls on a couch. The talent wasn't too high, and they're priced according to what color dress they're wearing, which seems to be just based on how heavy they are. I picked one who looked fun and during the session when she asked if I wanted to upgrade to sex, she easily agreed to no condom. Jackpot and CIP. What a country. I went to a bunch during the day also. Often a better experience because they are quiet and I'm less buzzed. I went to all the usuals. Lolitas, Duangporn, Kasalong, 7-heaven, Mango, Wood. Not a bad experience among them.

Quick Philippines comparison. Angeles City in particular. Thai girls are generally hotter than Filipinas. That's just the truth. But, if you operate in the top 10%, which I try to do when barfining, you're working with the same class of girl. The bar setup in PH is just better. You call a girl over for a drink and you can chat with her, maybe charm her, and really vibe check. Once you get some experience you know what to look for. Also the English skills are really a big deal to me. Flirting over a translator app is lame as hell. I was in PH the month before coming here and I barfined most nights and never had a loser and never opened a condom. Also, the numbers on the menus for food, drinks, girls, and services are pretty much the same. Unfortunately the baht is worth exactly half of the peso against the US dollar. I know a more fair comparison would be Manila, but too bad, this aint that.

My Pattaya research tells me it might be more my style than Bangkok. I'm heading there tomorrow. A little dirtier and grimier vibe which I am completely down with. We'll see. I'm excited to check it out.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;3088310]My Pattaya research tells me it might be more my style than Bangkok. I'm heading there tomorrow. A little dirtier and grimier vibe which I am completely down with. We'll see. I'm excited to check it out.[/QUOTE]Nice report. FYI, Pattaya is nowhere near the level of grime and squalor of Angeles City. If you have not already done so, suggest to download Thai Friendly for access to Pattaya's treasure trove of talent. Even in free mode, [U]in Pattaya[/U] TF is the best online meat market in Asia IMHO and you will be surprised what THB1500-2000 gets you. Especially if you want that feeling of raw Thai pussy, it is the best way to pre-negotiate specific services. Enjoy, AR.

[QUOTE=OneNightStan;3088167]Thermae is a last resort for me. In high season there are few that will even make eye contact with a westerner. It's always a constant clockwise flow of Asian guys asking how much. BBFS is rare but it can happen. One issue is that they are standing so close to each other they don't want to be heard discussing it to save face. WhatsApp is a useful strategy. Find a subtle way to ask about their family and baby history. My last pull there was a recent mom and a total wreck under the hood. Good points at this place are no smoking (I think) and it's not loud. Quite a few will stand around out front after closing where the lighting is better and less awkward conversation. Hot ones are long gone though.[/QUOTE]I pulled girls a few times at Thermae which was planned since I stayed upstairs at the Ruamchitt. But each time for me the girls were among the worse service girls I've ever met in Thailand and I'm not the only one who has this opinion. Meanwhile my sessions at spas like Picasso not far away were so much better. Next trip I'm going to bypass Thermae and stick to the nuru massage spas along Sukhumvit.