Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875211]A girl books 3 customers in one day. Leads me to believe she isn't Hot.

Sub 1,000 baht girl?[/QUOTE]Expensive agency girl. Always busy.

I'll have to wait for Low Season for her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2875261]Chick tried to get me like that the other day. Could not come to me because she was going long time with another guy. Then when he canceled, she tried to double back to me. You bet on the wrong horse; I can't help you.[/QUOTE]Amen, had a chick on line yesterday asking me to do her ST for 1500. Said I am not there until Sun as am in Indonesia. She said ok Sunday. I said 1200ST. No problem. Then 2 hours later she's back texting on line about no meeting. No meeting now ever I tell her.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2875144]I like the way you go hard in the paint. In hockey we call that a hard check into the boards. Yep, that guy you responded to be talking out the side of his neck at times. My experience with Thai Friendly has been aligned with your statistical study.

[B]About 20% of the girls I have contacted me have giving me the "Come to my bar" or "massage shop" routine.[/B]

Actually I like it when they do that. It allows me to learn about a new bar, bar fines, facilities available and personal prices all while peering into the screen on my phone often while doing something else. One girl even sent me the entire line up of the bar girls working. Prices she gave me were damn expensive if you ask me. But if I am looking for that experience then I just need to roll with it. [B]Pay up![/B] I cannot knock it until I try it.

The massage girls also tell me the location of their shop, massage prices and prices for extras. They detail the extras available and the ones that they will provide. I happen to like, rolling up to a spot with a reservation. Because if I can get a quality massage and then my dick sucked at the end it is worth it to me. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I've met and fucked 3 nice massage MILFs from soi 13/1 and 13/2 via meeting them on TF first.

YMMV.

I agree that TF is a great weapon in the pattaya battleground.

If you are able to find great chicks on there then that's cool.

I use everything in my arsenal to find the best chicks for that day / night.

Only had 1 TF chick come over once during my week long stay.

The chicks I really wanted to non responsive or busy.

Its hard to gauge what exactly they look like since many photos are filtered.

Or even dated photos from their prime.

Its much easier to walk into a soi6/ agogo bar and figure out who I find attractive.

Then see if theres any chemistry.

You can't really do that with TF until she's in your room.

We didn't even get to flakiness and lateness.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2875099]I asked one of the ladies in my rotation if she was available today. Her response. She has 3 customers booked today, maybe she can see me afterwards.[/QUOTE]I don't know about you mate, but I wouldn't want to be number 4 or even number 2. For any girl I fuck, I make a point of making sure I am number 1 for their day. Sometimes I even ask about the day before. If I go to Soi 6 or a gents club, I always go at the start of their shifts, so 1 Pm or 3-4 Pm for soi 6. Sure it's not full proof if they had a LT and then headed to the bar, her work, directly from their customers place, but so far so good for me. Who wants to think of another punter's jizz being squirted into a pussy right before you fuck her. Not me. LOL.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2875144]I like the way you go hard in the paint. In hockey we call that a hard check into the boards. Yep, that guy you responded to be talking out the side of his neck at times. My experience with Thai Friendly has been aligned with your statistical study.

[B]About 20% of the girls I have contacted me have giving me the "Come to my bar" or "massage shop" routine.[/B]

Actually I like it when they do that. It allows me to learn about a new bar, bar fines, facilities available and personal prices all while peering into the screen on my phone often while doing something else. One girl even sent me the entire line up of the bar girls working. Prices she gave me were damn expensive if you ask me. But if I am looking for that experience then I just need to roll with it. [B]Pay up![/B] I cannot knock it until I try it.

The massage girls also tell me the location of their shop, massage prices and prices for extras. They detail the extras available and the ones that they will provide. I happen to like, rolling up to a spot with a reservation. Because if I can get a quality massage and then my dick sucked at the end it is worth it to me. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I don't mind hookiing up with a girl from TF at their bar. I have done it before with a girl from Passion on soi 6. I just said no delivery for that day, chose another girl from TF, and I told her I will go to see you her the next time I am in soi 6. I never wait for them to get off work. It worked out well. Just like any normal hookup in a bar. The only difference is there was some rapport built already from chatting before in line. We had a great time.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2875143]

These girls can take my 1000 THB and my 100 THB bonus and get the fuck up out of here and off to the next client. That is exactly how that shit works too. I had a girl come over with a friend. The friend sat outside on my porch while I fucked the girl I ordered off of Thai Friendly then they rolled off. [/QUOTE]In true SubCmdr fashion, why didn't you throw an extra 500 Baht into the mix and have a threesome? Her friend was already there waiting and earning no money. I bet she would have joined in the fun. LOL.

By the way, I like your style mate. You post good content, you never debate about what others pay or opinions. You just role with it and post dam good content. Keep it up mate.

Sanity on Soi6.

Older Farang spotted a girl he liked. A few pleasantries and the number came in at 1,500 plus room.

Playpen. No it wasn't Baitoey.

How many drinks did he buy 40. Hahaha?

Or 1?

Or even lower than 1? Winner winner chicken dinner.

If he wants repeat he will get 1,500 again.

Once you pay $500 you can't go lower. It's the LAW.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875297]Where's the High season Waldo.

[/QUOTE]Stolen elections have consequences. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875527]Sanity on Soi6.

Older Farang spotted a girl he liked. A few pleasantries and the number came in at 1,500 plus room.

Playpen. No it wasn't Baitoey.

How many drinks did he buy 40. Hahaha?

Or 1?

Or even lower than 1? Winner winner chicken dinner.

If he wants repeat he will get 1,500 again.

Once you pay $500 you can't go lower. It's the LAW.[/QUOTE]I wonder what would happen if the Soi 6 bar customers only bought 1 lady drink or no lady drinks? Hmmm. Do you think those bars would even exist? I think there would be no Soi 6 then. Maybe you need to post a report instead of posting about others who buy drinks. Post a report for once. Something useful for people to read. Is it possible? Next report CC. While you walk up and down Soi 6 looking for a girl to Cheap Charlie out on, I will be having fun drinking with the girls and when I want to pay 1500 and not drink, I will order delivery to my room from TF Next........I don't go to bars not to drink or not to buy drinks. Duh!!

Now let me educate you for a second. The definition of a bar is" An establishment where alcohol and sometimes other refreshments are served."

School is out now my little student. Run along now my little one. Mommy is calling you for dinner lol.


One last point. While you are dreaming about Pattaya in your mother's basement, I will be out fucking girls like these in Pattaya. Now be a good boy and run along now. 55555

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2875599]I wonder what would happen if the Soi 6 bar customers only bought 1 lady drink or no lady drinks? Hmmm. Do you think those bars would even exist? I think there would be no Soi 6 then. Maybe you need to post a report instead of posting about others who buy drinks. Post a report for once. Something useful for people to read. Is it possible? Next report CC. While you walk up and down Soi 6 looking for a girl to Cheap Charlie out on, I will be having fun drinking with the girls and when I want to pay 1500 and not drink, I will order delivery to my room from TF Next........I don't go to bars not to drink or not to buy drinks. Duh!!

Now let me educate you for a second. The definition of a bar is" An establishment where alcohol and sometimes other refreshments are served."

School is out now my little student. Run along now my little one. Mommy is calling you for dinner lol.


One last point. While you are dreaming about Pattaya in your mother's basement, I will be out fucking girls like these in Pattaya. Now be a good boy and run along now. 55555[/QUOTE]Most of us Realize Bars need customers of all kinds to stay in Business. I have said Mr E and Sub are critical. They keep the ugly Muglies at Bay. We don't need them committing Crimes due to lack of income.

It just your case is Funny. Flexxing gone wrong. You thought you were going to be Adored and Loved here.

Mr E does make good points. One is overpaying Impresses no one.

Hi where to get genuine Cialis or viagra.

Tried two pharmacist on Soi Bukhao and they both gave jelly that I think was duplicate.

I tried Kamagra jelly back in Sydney and they were powerful but Soi Bukhao one didn't work for me.

Any pointers will help.

Regards.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875662]Most of us Realize Bars need customers of all kinds to stay in Business. I have said Mr E and Sub are critical. They keep the ugly Muglies at Bay. We don't need them committing Crimes due to lack of income.

It just your case is Funny. Flexxing gone wrong. You thought you were going to be Adored and Loved here.

Mr E does make good points. One is overpaying Impresses no one.[/QUOTE]I post my experiences about what I do and that's it. If you think or anyone else thinks that 4000 Baht LT is going to be such an overpayment that they need to complain on a public forum about it, so be it. If one thinks that buying drinks is not good at a bar then who cares what you think. I would say to you kind sir to post a report about your experiences. All you do is post nonsense. With all due respect of course.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2875695]Hi where to get genuine Cialis or viagra.

Tried two pharmacist on Soi Bukhao and they both gave jelly that I think was duplicate.

I tried Kamagra jelly back in Sydney and they were powerful but Soi Bukhao one didn't work for me.

Any pointers will help.

Regards.[/QUOTE]2nd road between Pattaya Avenue and soi14. There is a pharmacy that I always use.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2875370]Amen, had a chick on line yesterday asking me to do her ST for 1500. Said I am not there until Sun as am in Indonesia. She said ok Sunday. I said 1200ST. No problem. Then 2 hours later she's back texting on line about no meeting. No meeting now ever I tell her.[/QUOTE]Bad form to message ladies if you are not in Pattaya, big waste of time.

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[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875835]For Humourous Content your content is Gold.

I really doubt members are DMing you in Congratulations 👏. Come on Bro.

You don't want to lose your MoJo. You getting into the Hot Girls at Palace off work for 1 k doing your 🧺 laundry after Slobbering all over you all afternoon territory.

$700 for a Soi 6 girl? Granted she turned away the last $200.[/QUOTE]I think you need to get some math skills. I paid the girl 4000 Baht. Why do you think she gets the money from my drink bin at the bar. Her drink commission was 2000 Baht Are you sure you understand the way bars work in Pattaya? Hmmm 4000 Baht in cash + 2000 Baht in drink commission a day later from the bar = 6000 Baht. Aprrox $168 USD. How does that equal $700? Or even $500 USD for that matter. Maybe all those 1000 Baht BBFS CIP sessions from the coconut bar are starting to affect your brain. What did those girls give you? lol

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2875826]Bad form to message ladies if you are not in Pattaya, big waste of time.[/QUOTE]Generally yes. But I live in BKK most of the time or HK and have spent about 8 weeks of the last 15 in Pattaya and am back tomorrow. But I generally agree and MANY ladies just disappear unless you contact them and take them immediately. YMMV.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2875900]I think you need to get some math skills. I paid the girl 4000 Baht. Why do you think she gets the money from my drink bin at the bar. Her drink commission was 2000 Baht Are you sure you understand the way bars work in Pattaya? Hmmm 4000 Baht in cash + 2000 Baht in drink commission a day later from the bar = 6000 Baht. Aprrox $168 USD. How does that equal $700? Or even $500 USD for that matter. Maybe all those 1000 Baht BBFS CIP sessions from the coconut bar are starting to affect your brain. What did those girls give you? lol[/QUOTE]40 drinks at $6 per. 40 ×$3 per. 2,500 barfine.

$240+ $120+ $75. Plus Misc, ex your drinks.

Not far from $500.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2875826]Bad form to message ladies if you are not in Pattaya, big waste of time.[/QUOTE]Many guys like to do this and will continue to do so. Some ladies allow it and some will just block you or ignore. The seasoned freelancers will ignore and block.

A few nights ago, I went to Republic and ran into a real hottie. I snagged the last VIP booth and she shared some of her professional type photos. I was enjoying my cigar while she was dancing in front of me and twerking. Then one of her friends shows up and we decide to go into Pin Up. I store my bottle and off we go, Pin Up was crowded as usual. I called for back up and my buddy shows up who knows the security guys. He snagged us a VIP table. Then my buddy, me and the two girls order a bottle of Jack and invite 2 dancers over. So now there are 4 girls. Six wracks of tequila are ordered for the two Pin up dancers and we have ourselves a little party. Tops come off and one set of bikini bottoms. The security guard has to stand guard in front so we don't get caught, earning a well deserved 2000 Baht tip. Once we finish the bottle of Jack, we are off to my buddies condo in Pratmanak, the six of us. All I can say is holly fuck! This night reminded me of the parties we used to have during covid when everything was shut. I actually miss those days. Don't ask me how much we spent. Let's just say all the girls went home happy and me and my friend were quite satisfied and well taken care of more than once. Love Pattaya! Here is a shot of the first girl I met in Republic from the pics she shared with me.

What is the point of my post you? It is to let all you guys know that sometimes it's okay to party like a rock star in Pattaya. Not every night. Just sometimes. Mix it up. Don't analyze things like a fucking chemist. Go with the flow. Don't make any plans and shit like this can happen to you too. And it does not always require large sums of cash either.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2875734]2nd road between Pattaya Avenue and soi14. There is a pharmacy that I always use.[/QUOTE]Thanks Martin.

Which one do you use?

Name please?

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876004]A few nights ago, I went to Republic and ran into a real hottie. I snagged the last VIP booth and she shared some of her professional type photos. I was enjoying my cigar while she was dancing in front of me and twerking. Then one of her friends shows up and we decide to go into Pin Up. I store my bottle and off we go, Pin Up was crowded as usual. I called for back up and my buddy shows up who knows the security guys. He snagged us a VIP table. Then my buddy, me and the two girls order a bottle of Jack and invite 2 dancers over. So now there are 4 girls. Six wracks of tequila are ordered for the two Pin up dancers and we have ourselves a little party. Tops come off and one set of bikini bottoms. The security guard has to stand guard in front so we don't get caught, earning a well deserved 2000 Baht tip. Once we finish the bottle of Jack, we are off to my buddies condo in Pratmanak, the six of us. All I can say is holly fuck! This night reminded me of the parties we used to have during covid when everything was shut. I actually miss those days. Don't ask me how much we spent. Let's just say all the girls went home happy and me and my friend were quite satisfied and well taken care of more than once. Love Pattaya! Here is a shot of the first girl I met in Republic from the pics she shared with me.

What is the point of my post you? It is to let all you guys know that sometimes it's okay to party like a rock star in Pattaya. Not every night. Just sometimes. Mix it up. Don't analyze things like a fucking chemist. Go with the flow. Don't make any plans and shit like this can happen to you too. And it does not always require large sums of cash either.[/QUOTE]Well done mate.

She is a hottie.

And I also ticked the Soi 6 girl that you mentioned before.

She was really good and tonight I am going to take her new friend.

20 years old and came to Pattaya 3 days ago.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2876030]Well done mate.

She is a hottie.

And I also ticked the Soi 6 girl that you mentioned before.

She was really good and tonight I am going to take her new friend.

20 years old and came to Pattaya 3 days ago.[/QUOTE]Ya I saw the new girl on their Facebook page. I have moved on from that place. Too many bars and girls in Pattaya mate. I rarely go back to the same soi 6 bar unless a large amount of time has gone by. This is for obvious reasons. I don't want to feel obligated to take the same girl again and I don't want there to be any drama. Therefore, I just avoid all together. I like to move from bar to bar on Soi 6. After I get through the rotation, I start again. Most ladies change their bar more than their underwear so I am that way assured of a drama free night out. By the way, glad my post helped you find that girl. She is something else isn't she?

Further, thanks for being cool about it too. You just took some good intel from the forum and capitalized on it. That's what this place is for. Not for all the stupid ass comments challenging how much other punters pay and how many drinks they buy. Hope you are having a lot of fun. If you have time, check out some Gents clubs in Pattaya. I can recommend Maggie Mays, Buzzing Lounge, Club Fate, Cat Flaps, and Kineree. You will have a blast.

For the sake of clarity for the bros on ISG, here is the original girl that MGavin and I were both with looking sexy as ever and beside her is the new 20 year old girl I think he is talking about. Enjoy boys.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876044]Ya I saw the new girl on their Facebook page. I have moved on from that place. Too many bars and girls in Pattaya mate. I rarely go back to the same soi 6 bar unless a large amount of time has gone by. This is for obvious reasons. I don't want to feel obligated to take the same girl again and I don't want there to be any drama. Therefore, I just avoid all together. I like to move from bar to bar on Soi 6. After I get through the rotation, I start again. Most ladies change their bar more than their underwear so I am that way assured of a drama free night out. By the way, glad my post helped you find that girl. She is something else isn't she?

Further, thanks for being cool about it too. You just took some good intel from the forum and capitalized on it. That's what this place is for. Not for all the stupid ass comments challenging how much other punters pay and how many drinks they buy. Hope you are having a lot of fun. If you have time, check out some Gents clubs in Pattaya. I can recommend Maggie Mays, Buzzing Lounge, Club Fate, Cat Flaps, and Kineree. You will have a blast.

For the sake of clarity for the bros on ISG, here is the original girl that MGavin and I were both with looking sexy as ever and beside her is the new 20 year old girl I think he is talking about. Enjoy boys.[/QUOTE]You know why you have Drama on Soi 6. It's because of your Behavior.

$500;for a Soi 6 girl is asking for it. Trust me Bro.

Tipping a Security Guard is $60 fine. We get it you are kind.

The problem is what about the rest of the guards. They want some too.

Are you going to avoid this place too?

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876044]...

For the sake of clarity for the bros on ISG, here is the original girl that MGavin and I were both with looking sexy as ever and beside her is the new 20 year old girl I think he is talking about. Enjoy boys.[/QUOTE]Hmm, more for men who don't care about a woman's lower body.

For men fixated on waist-to-hip ratios, "sexy" pics in social media are often useless, especially in countries like TH where showing what's the deal below the navel is looked down on, or against the law.

[QUOTE=XXL;2876083]Hmm, more for men who don't care about a woman's lower body.

For men fixated on waist-to-hip ratios, "sexy" pics in social media are often useless, especially in countries like TH where showing what's the deal below the navel is looked down on, or against the law.[/QUOTE]Okay, here is a nice pic of the main girl in question for you to drool over LOL.

Price Police 🚓 report to duty. 😂.

One guy seems to be proud of his Conquests.

Let's just say I'm not impressed by the Beauty- ness we are seeing.

One might say he is Overpaying. Hahaha 🤣129315;129315;.

Please if ya think I'm way off 📴. Please say so.

I swear people are passing off 3's,4's,5's, as Hot.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876096]Okay, here is a nice pic of the main girl in question for you to drool over LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but no. Waist-to-hip ratio on the pic? Equals 0.90001

Below is a girl I had sessions with in Brazil. See what I mean?

P.S. Sorry guys but uploading a mere pic is too much to ask from ISG these days. Can't be here all day.

[QUOTE=XXL;2876110]Thanks, but no. Waist-to-hip ratio on the pic? Equals 0.90001

Below is a girl I had sessions with in Brazil. See what I mean?

P.S. Sorry guys but uploading a mere pic is too much to ask from ISG these days. Can't be here all day.[/QUOTE]What are you saying LOL? Are you saying she is not hot? Or are you saying the pic is not showing enough. Either or is ok as everyone has their preference in ladies. However. I know this one is hot. One of the best I have seen in Pattaya. Yes this is the Pattaya thread. The face is what does it for me. Yes she is not what we call a quote unquote spinner, but she is for sure hot.

As for ISG, you must be an old schooler because uploading pics is so easy to do mate. From a phone or a computer. Just what are you doing wrong LOL. By the way, MOD bar was great. Now I can't go back for another 6 months though. otherwise I will be accosted by one particular lady and won't have time to butterfly.

[QUOTE=XXL;2876110]P.S. Sorry guys but uploading a mere pic is too much to ask from ISG these days. Can't be here all day.[/QUOTE]Maybe your pic is too big or the wrong format. Just screenshot and crop it and that should solve the issue.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875965]40 drinks at $6 per. 40 $3 per. 2,500 barfine.

$240+ $120+ $75. Plus Misc, ex your drinks.

Not far from $500.[/QUOTE]And what does the girl see from this? 6000 baht. Are you jealous of my bar tabs? LOL. Let's see, you forgot the food I bought her after and the bolt taxi to and from soi 6. Oh and the tip I gave to the cleaning staff in the bar. Please post a report. Thanks mate. Why does the amount of drinks a punter buys in a bar disturb you so much?

So, yes. I admit it. I spent almost $500 on a night out. But, did I give $500 to the lady ? No. Have I paid a lady in Pattaya $500 before ? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes! So what Raj. Deal with it mate!!!! Lol

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876116]What are you saying LOL? Are you saying she is not hot? Or are you saying the pic is not showing enough.....[/QUOTE]I have observed that whenever one uploads a pic of a girl on ISG there are guys who try to impress others by saying that she is a 3, 4 or 5 and they would not bang her. I once uploaded a photo of a Miss Colombia on the Medellin forum and there were guys saying that they would not go to bed with her. Its all about trying to make other mongers believe that they are some sort of 'connoisseurs', but we know better.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2876147]I have observed that whenever one uploads a pic of a girl on ISG there are guys who try to impress others by saying that she is a 3, 4 or 5 and they would not bang her. I once uploaded a photo of a Miss Colombia on the Medellin forum and there were guys saying that they would not go to bed with her. Its all about trying to make other mongers believe that they are some sort of 'connoisseurs', but we know better.[/QUOTE]Yea I'm starting to think my standards are pretty low after reading lots of comments about the quality of soi 6 girls, from what I see daily on YouTube they are plenty hot for a goofy ass dude like me. In 88 days I check into the Hard Rock Hotel, first time in Thailand. After single for over ten years let's just say I'm not going to be too picky.

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2876154]Yea I'm starting to think my standards are pretty low after reading lots of comments about the quality of soi 6 girls, from what I see daily on YouTube they are plenty hot for a goofy ass dude like me. In 88 days I check into the Hard Rock Hotel, first time in Thailand. After single for over ten years let's just say I'm not going to be too picky.[/QUOTE]Then it seems you are one of those people that think there are 7's and 8's on Beach Road. More power to you! Have fun!

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2876182]Then it seems you are one of those people that think there are 7's and 8's on Beach Road. More power to you! Have fun![/QUOTE]Sometimes there are.

And besides, this is all mostly subjective, as different people have different tastes.

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2876154]I'm starting to think my standards are pretty low after reading lots of comments about the quality of soi 6 girls, from what I see daily on YouTube they are plenty hot[/QUOTE]It's because you don't have a baseline on what Soi 6 used to be even only 6 years ago. But this is likely a good thing. You're going to have the time of your life for dirt cheap. Enjoy and report back.

[B]XS AGOGO, Toey[/B]

[B]Blowjob[/B] 8/10.

[B]English[/B] 6/10.

[B]Boobs size[/B] A.

[B]Height[/B] 150/160 cm.

[B]Body Tyepe[/B] Petite.

[B]Damage[/B] +/- 150 euro.

I like Thailand because of the beautiful and cheap fucks. But there was one girl that I desperately needed to dip my dick in.

That girls name is Toey and she works in a shithole called XS AGOGO.

I am not the type of guy to go in a gogobar. It is to crowded, the staff is to pushy and the people around me are gta vice city gangsters.

You know the type of people showing gang hand signals while wearing a fluorescent hoody.

Anyway back to the trip report. I went inside the bar knowing I was going to lose some money. But I didn't care because this girl had something that I needed to penetrate.

I went in to the bar and some fat lady asked me for drinks. I asked for a beer and I also directly asked that I am interested in that specific girl.

I wanted her for a short time.

Apparently it was not possible at the moment. She still had to work for 30 minutes and then she can come to me.

I still don't understand why but I waited for my time to come. Toey came and sit next to me and then the fat lady returned to ask if girl wanted something to drink.

And a tip.

After the 30 minutes of chatting about bullshit, her mamasan came to me. She told me it will cost me 4000 baht or something like that for a short time.

I was expecting to take the girl to a room upstairs but apparently I have bought her for 2 hours to go outside of the club?

I didn't know that, but it was sure nice. I prefer to fuck in my own hotel room.

Mamasan told me to take good care of her girl and she asked if I didn't want to give mamasan also something.

I have her 1000 baht and then left with the girl.

We took a scooty to the hotel room.

I am bad writing in detail what happened but anyway, we both showered.

She gave me a blowjob which was nice but I am not into blowjobs. I was waiting to stab her with my meat dagger.

I pulled her up and she sat on me.

And bro, this was the first time in my life that someone fucked me like that. This was pro level riding. Like the ones you see in porn movies.

She was fast and flexible. I enjoyed it for a few minutes then we switched positions.

I took her in doggystyle and it was great to see such a petite ass from above. I am never going to forget this.

After a while I felt I was ready to blow so I took her in missionary. I wish I could fuck these Thai girls without condoms but I am to afraid to get a disease.

I came, and then we went to the shower together.

After that we went out to get some food, took some pictures together and then we seperated.

Before she left, she told me, don't fall in love with me.

This girl was hot and sweet and I was definitely in love. But I can not take her back to my wife, so it ended there.

Was sent this pic from a mate from a TH forum. This glamour will be on my list if she is there on Soi 6 tonight.

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2876154]Yea I'm starting to think my standards are pretty low after reading lots of comments about the quality of soi 6 girls, from what I see daily on YouTube they are plenty hot for a goofy ass dude like me. In 88 days I check into the Hard Rock Hotel, first time in Thailand. After single for over ten years let's just say I'm not going to be too picky.[/QUOTE]You can't go by YT because the rare 7 or 8 on Soi 6 may not be into you unless you're East Asian. I've seen chicks that were 7 or 8 that did not make eye contact or only wanted drinks.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2876219]Was sent this pic from a mate from a TH forum. This glamour will be on my list if she is there on Soi 6 tonight.[/QUOTE]Someone is going to say she is a 5.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2876184]Sometimes there are.[/QUOTE]Please give a link to a YouTube video. I've only watched a couple showing Beach Road; don't need to since I'm there a lot. That's usually where I do my daily exercise walk.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2876184]And besides, this is all mostly subjective, as different people have different tastes.[/QUOTE]ABSOLUTELY! That's why I wrote more power to him!

My problem is that I have true Bell Curve, where most are C's, and only a few are F's and A's. I wish my standards were so that half the girls out there are stunners.

You lost me when you said that you paid the Mamasan 1000 bt as a tip unless you added a zero by mistake.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2876219]Was sent this pic from a mate from a TH forum. This glamour will be on my list if she is there on Soi 6 tonight.[/QUOTE]Its a doctored picture of a well known over-priced biotch on TF. AI and filters are everywhere.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2876289]Please give a link to a YouTube video. I've only watched a couple showing Beach Road; don't need to since I'm there a lot. That's usually where I do my daily exercise walk.

My problem is that I have true Bell Curve, where most are C's, and only a few are F's and A's. I wish my standards were so that half the girls out there are stunners.[/QUOTE]You do your daily exercise walk on Beach Road after dark?

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876206][B]XS AGOGO, Toey[/B]

[B]Blowjob[/B] 8/10.

[B]English[/B] 6/10.

[B]Boobs size[/B] A.

[B]Height[/B] 150/160 cm.

[B]Body Tyepe[/B] Petite.

[B]Damage[/B] +/- 150 euro.

I like thailand because of the beautifull and cheap fucks. But there was one girl that I desperately needed to dip my dick in.

That girls name is Toey and she works in a shithole called XS AGOGO.

I am not the type of guy to go in a gogobar. It is to crowded, the staff is to pushy and the people around me are gta vice city gangsters.

You know the type of people showing gang hand signals while wearing a fluerocent hoody.

Anyway back to the tripreport. I went inside the bar knowing I was going to lose some money. But I didn't care because this girl had something that I needed to penetrate.

I went in to the bar and some fat lady asked me for drinks. I asked for a beer and I also directly asked that I am interested in that specific girl.

I wanted her for a short time.

Apperently it was not possible at the moment. She still had to work for 30 minutes and then she can come to me.

I still don't understand why but I waited for my time to come. Toey came and sit next to me and then the fat lady returned to ask if girl wanted something to drink.

And a tip.

After the 30 minutes of chatting about bullshit, her mamasan came to me. She told me it will cost me 4000 baht or something like that for a short time.

I was expecting to take the girl to a room upstairs but apperently I have bought her for 2 hours to go outside of the club?

I didn't know that, but it was sure nice. I prefer to fuck in my own hotel room.

Mamasan told me to take good care of her girl and she asked if I didn't want to give mamasan also something.

I have her 1000 baht and then left with the girl.

We took a scooty to the hotel room.

I am bad writing in detail what happenend but anyway, we both showered.

She gave me a blowjob which was nice but I am not into blowjobs. I was waiting to stab her with my meat dagger.

I pulled her up and she sat on me.

And bro, this was the first time in my life that someone fucked me like that. This was pro level riding. Like the ones you see in porn movies.

She was fast and flexible. I enjoyed it for a few minutes then we switched positions.

I took her in doggystyle and it was great to see such a petite ass from above. I am never going to forget this.

After a while I felt I was ready to blow so I took her in missionary. I wish I could fuck these thai girls without condoms but I am to afraid to get a disease.

I came, and then we went to the shower together.

After that we went out to get some food, took some pictures together and then we seperated.

Before she left, she told me, don't fall in love with me.

This girl was hot and sweet and I was definitely in love. But I can not take her back to my wife, so it ended there.[/QUOTE]Great report mate. This is what the forum is all about. You were the same as me. You saw what you wanted and you went on a mission and got it. I like this thrill the hunt. I see a girl I like on you tube, Facebook or another platform who is working in some bar and then go on a mission to find her.

How did you know she worked there? Where did you find her?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2876290]You lost me when you said that you paid the Mamasan 1000 bt as a tip unless you added a zero by mistake.[/QUOTE]Oh my god. We even have price police for tipping. Post a report please and who cares about what others tip or pay.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2876290]You lost me when you said that you paid the Mamasan 1000 bt as a tip unless you added a zero by mistake.[/QUOTE]Nope. I told before I knew I was going to lose some money and I only wanted one thing.

And that is to fuck that girl without any other bullshit around me.

These thai people and their tips are annoying.

I gave mamasan 1000 baht tip because those were the only notes I got in my wallet.

I also took the note out very quick and just gave it to her.

Because if they see the bundle of notes, they are rude enough to ask more.

I don't like gogo bars.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876314]Great report mate. This is what the forum is all about. You were the same as me. You saw what you wanted and you went on a mission and got it. I like this thrill the hunt. I see a girl I like on you tube, Facebook or another platform who is working in some bar and then go on a mission to find her.

How did you know she worked there? Where did you find her?[/QUOTE]I found her a year ago on the day that I left Thailand a few years ago.

I added her on Instagram and made a mission to fuck her the next year.

She posts pictures from her work and when asked she told me she works in XSagogo.

When I entered the bar I showed them the picture of the girl and they brought her to me.

It was deep space mission.

[B]Thaifriendly, ladyboy, unknown[/B]

[B]Blowjob[/B] 8/10.

[B]English[/B] 8/10.

[B]Boobs[/B] A maybe be? Silicon.

[B]Height[/B] 150/160 cm.

[B]Body type[/B] Petite.

[B]Damage[/B] 1500/2000 Baht (Can't remember).

Whenever I walk through the soi's, I am never able to look for a girl in a calm environment.

Every meter you are being groped, touched, pulled, stared at, waved at, talked to, get jumped on.

I love them all, but I am looking for a gem between all those girls. And that's really hard if you don't have the time to look.

You are occupied trying to dodge every thai body that falls on you.

So sometimes I just go to my hotel or have a beer somewhere and look at thaifriendly.

I was in the mood for ass so I opened the transgender section in thaifriendly.

A lot of them looks so good, there is one standing out immediately. I contacted her / him whatever it's like to be called for a meetup in my room.

Let's call her a she, makes writing for me a bit easy'are.

Anyway she came to my room and she was just as stunning on the pictures. There was no edit or fake shit.

I could see the makeup a little bit though.

I turned her around and complimented her on her body. She in return told me to change my profile picture because I looked fat on those pictures.

Well that's a compliment to.

She showed, I already did it before she came. I told before I am bad at writing story's how I fucked, I am not a erotic story writer.

She gave me a blowjob which I enjoyed, but I am not in to blowjobs, I love ass <3.

I asked her to bend over in doggy so I could fuck her from behind. And man, I hate condoms. This ass would be a lot sweeter if it was bare. Instead I am fucking in to a rubber pipe.

The view from above was fucking amazing, Nice ass, nice figure.

I couldn't hold it fuck longer so I came in that position.

The end.

I added a picture this time.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876004]A few nights ago, I went to Republic and ran into a real hottie. I snagged the last VIP booth and she shared some of her professional type photos. [/QUOTE]Seems to be some social media model. She's lovely.

[URL]https://www.jaekwarp.com/earn-saranya/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2876351]Seems to be some social media model. She's lovely.

[URL]https://www.jaekwarp.com/earn-saranya/[/URL][/QUOTE]Ya she showed me some of those photos, but I didn't know she was so well known LOL.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2876351]Seems to be some social media model. She's lovely.

[URL]https://www.jaekwarp.com/earn-saranya/[/URL][/QUOTE]Good catch. All her stuff is in Thai language. Long live tineye. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2876351]Seems to be some social media model. She's lovely.

[URL]https://www.jaekwarp.com/earn-saranya/[/URL][/QUOTE]If she is a real girl she's been rebuild clinically more often than an LB.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2876306]You do your daily exercise walk on Beach Road after dark?[/QUOTE]No.

OK. I haven't walked that stretch during the night for a long time since pre-Covid. I'm a pessimist. Have things changed that much? I doubt it.

At night time, I just stare when I ride the songthaew to Walking Street. I think that gives you a good indication. And sometimes, I walk around the beach at night time, generally late, after a night of drinking, around my hotel near the beach.

I hope I see a stunner the next time I'm there; I will be staying on the beach at LK Empress.

[QUOTE=Cool;2876245]You can't go by YT because the rare 7 or 8 on Soi 6 may not be into you unless you're East Asian. I've seen chicks that were 7 or 8 that did not make eye contact or only wanted drinks.[/QUOTE]Exactly my experience too.

Although I wouldn't give these girls numbers, there were definitaly a few I would have wanted to bang but I didn't do because of lack of chemistry or because they simply asked too much.

But I've seen lately a few lovely looking new comers than I plan to meet and I'm thinking in changing my tactics and become a new generation monger instead of the old school guy that I've always been.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876188]It's because you don't have a baseline on what Soi 6 used to be even only 6 years ago. But this is likely a good thing. You're going to have the time of your life for dirt cheap. Enjoy and report back.[/QUOTE]Not dirt cheap anymore if you follow the winners.

I plan to copy them next time, but only with a few selected girls (if they are still around in a few months).

I will target a few girls on the 6 that I want to bang, I'm still hesitating between offering 80 or 120 water shots for her (yes, even though I don't know her yet, I already love her and care about her health, so no alcohol, no sugar) or I'll make a statement and go directly for 200 or even 500 shots.

Now I'm convinced it's better to do it that way instead of directly offering this huge amount of money directly to the girl, because otherwise the bar couldn't live without me, so I have to think about these poor souls too.

That way, sweet heart cannot refuse to sleep with me and she will give me hands down one of the top 5 experiences in my whole life, I'm sure about that.

Naturally I'll give 2000 baht tip to the mamasan cashier too, because otherwise the experience wouldn't be so good, and the girl would look at me like I'm a cheap charlie, which I don't want.

And naturally, I'll not put a foot in the soi again after that epic night, because obviously I would be targeted as a soft guy or an ATM, which I'm not too.

So to sum it up, not cheap but I can afford it (I'm a western guy) and honestly it would be too dumb to still miss on these kind of experiences just to save a few pounds.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2876296]Its a doctored picture of a well known over-priced biotch on TF. AI and filters are everywhere.[/QUOTE]The chick that asks for 5 K ST with the long ass essay about how too good she is? Those aren't her boobs and during COVID she went for 2000. Just an average fuck with a NO repeat for me.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2876369]No.

OK. I haven't walked that stretch during the night for a long time since pre-Covid. I'm a pessimist. Have things changed that much? I doubt it.

At night time, I just stare when I ride the songthaew to Walking Street. I think that gives you a good indication. And sometimes, I walk around the beach at night time, generally late, after a night of drinking, around my hotel near the beach.

I hope I see a stunner the next time I'm there; I will be staying on the beach at LK Empress.[/QUOTE]I will state the obvious: ladies working Beach Road during the day are fewer and not so great. The good ones come out at night, after their day job finishes.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876318]Oh my god. We even have price police for tipping. Post a report please and who cares about what others tip or pay.[/QUOTE]This is a message board for comments and reports. Him commenting on thousand baht tip is legit.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2874675]They think all you have to be is white, and then you've got it made![/QUOTE]Actually yes, for Asia, that's all you need to be. Doors will open. Trust me I know, and I've seen it countless times. It can be a sad reality for a lot of people, but I didn't make the rules, centuries of colonialism did. Thailand is still paradise though.

Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican [View Original Post]
If you don't mind being constantly treated like an ATM by people who can't speak your language and will never really accept you into their society, I guess its okay. Sexpats are the bottom rung of Thai society, no educated or decent Thai person will be your friend. You will be surrounded by people trying to use you

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2874674]Who are you treated like an ATM by? You are in charge of your wallet and it is your decision whether you want to purchase someone's services. You can also get a normal girlfriend that loves you for you. I have had tons of girlfriends here that did not need to be paid.

Not sure why them speaking your language is a thing when this is not your country.

Who the hell wants to be accepted into society? That is where the problems come in. I see friends back home on facebook worrying and biching about this that and the other. Not my concern since I am not participating in society there, and it definitely is not my concern here where I do not have to participate in society. Just don't fuck up my money or passport. Like my man Mexicant says, keep a small carbon footprint. All I need is money to pay my rent and buy whatever else I want. Why look to be involved in things to stress over? Just be the fly on the wall.[/QUOTE]Exactly Mr International, I couldn't agree more. That's what I live for now, I'm desperate to get out of this grind and just disengage myself from everything, and just chill for the rest of what's left of my life in Thailand. That's all I've got left. It's why I even wake up in the mornings anymore. Thailand. Everyone needs purpose and meaning, and now for me, at the end of my life, Thailand is my purpose and Mammon willing, Bangkok is my meaning.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2874650]If you don't mind being constantly treated like an ATM by people who can't speak your language and will never really accept you into their society, I guess its okay. Sexpats are the bottom rung of Thai society, no educated or decent Thai person will be your friend. You will be surrounded by people trying to use you while smiling at you and Wai-ing you to make you feel like some white god. Don't get me wrong. I like coming and fucking Thai girls as much as the rest of you. But I know what is fantasy and what is reality. Once you lose sight of that, you lose your mind.[/QUOTE]I don't understand which part of 'White God' is a bad thing. Sounds pretty sweet to anybody who's white, just sayin. Here, looksee at this documentary, all about the joys of paid sex in Thailand, and tell me it's bad. Sure, it might not be so great for the locals, but it's paradise on earth for dudes. For those of you young guys, you wouldn't know this, but you can look like acting legend Danny freakin Devito and still land a babe in Thailand that would suck you off. Even if you got cash, that's a bit of a challenge here in the States. God, my life sucks. Here, just watch this. You'll see.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOyJmCr_Mds[/URL]

Did you guys watch it? We're a freaking status symbol, goddamned prize worth fighting for. Do you see what some of us old dudes look like? And they're fighting over us? Holy cow man. I love Thailand.

I don't know dude, but it seems kinda obvious that sexpats are at the top of the rung of Thai society. People notice and won't admit it, but we're treated like kings over there. Educated and decent Thai people are kinda all over us cause we speak English or German, or Korean, or whatever. Just be foreign or better yet, be white and have some cash, and you're golden. Again, why go to Thailand if you ain't going to make the most of it? Cultural stuff, food, the weather? Yeah, sure, that's all fine and whatever, but the whole point is babes. Attractive, willing to spend time with you, willing to suck you off, babes. Even if you look like comedy genius Danny freaking Devito. Which I kinda do, but I'm older and much uglier. Jesus H Christ, if it weren't for South East Asia, I'd never know what pussy was like. I thank Mammon for the existence of Asia, where else would I go for affordable sex? South America? Been thinking about that for a long time, but I love how safe Thailand is. Can't really say that about Brazil or Colombia.

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876206]........Before she left, she told me, don't fall in love with me.......[/QUOTE]That's not normal. They usually try to get you to fall in love with them to get more money off you. Mighty decent of her.

I got a penalty I think?

Reason: TVS. TV-TS-SheMales.

I am not allowed to post pictures or tripreports of ladyboys?

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876485]I got a penalty I think?

Reason: TVS. TV-TS-SheMales.

I am not allowed to post pictures or tripreports of ladyboys?[/QUOTE]You can't even write the word "ladyboy" here.

Oops.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2876462]

Did you guys watch it? We're a freaking status symbol, goddamned prize worth fighting for. Do you see what some of us old dudes look like? And they're fighting over us? Holy cow man. I love Thailand.
[/QUOTE]Don't want to burst your bubble but we "farang" are not on top of the food chain in Pattaya anymore. Most girls would prefer Asians for simple reasons. They spend more.

To quote a OWNER in Pattaya of agogo:

"Bro. , I have Asian customers here that come buy a bunch of drinks and take 3-6 ladies with them. They take the whole group to Hollywood, buy bottles and food all night. Take a few selfies, give the ladies 10,000 each and send them home".

Why would these girls be waiting for any of us forum members? I don't blame them!

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876485]I got a penalty I think?

Reason: TVS. TV-TS-SheMales.

I am not allowed to post pictures or tripreports of ladyboys?[/QUOTE]I believe ladyboy reports are against board rules.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876505]I believe ladyboy reports are against board rules.[/QUOTE]I think that was under the previous owner. The present owner has even had lewd banner ads of ladyboys.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2876503]Don't want to burst your bubble but we "farang" are not on top of the food chain in Pattaya anymore. Most girls would prefer Asians for simple reasons. They spend more.

To quote a OWNER in Pattaya of agogo:

"Bro. , I have Asian customers here that come buy a bunch of drinks and take 3-6 ladies with them. They take the whole group to Hollywood, buy bottles and food all night. Take a few selfies, give the ladies 10,000 each and send them home".

Why would these girls be waiting for any of us forum members? I don't blame them![/QUOTE]This is what killed Angeles City in the Phillipines. Asians crowding out the Farangs, who mostly stopped coming.

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876485]I got a penalty I think?

Reason: TVS. TV-TS-SheMales.

I am not allowed to post pictures or tripreports of ladyboys?[/QUOTE]Be careful too many infractions you get cancelled. So my Friend tells me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2876275]Someone is going to say she is a 5.[/QUOTE]Four BRO!

Thai accountant wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot POLE.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2876380]Exactly my experience too.

Although I wouldn't give these girls numbers, there were definitaly a few I would have wanted to bang but I didn't do because of lack of chemistry or because they simply asked too much.

But I've seen lately a few lovely looking new comers than I plan to meet and I'm thinking in changing my tactics and become a new generation monger instead of the old school guy that I've always been.

Not dirt cheap anymore if you follow the winners.

I plan to copy them next time, but only with a few selected girls (if they are still around in a few months).

I will target a few girls on the 6 that I want to bang, I'm still hesitating between offering 80 or 120 water shots for her (yes, even though I don't know her yet, I already love her and care about her health, so no alcohol, no sugar) or I'll make a statement and go directly for 200 or even 500 shots.

Now I'm convinced it's better to do it that way instead of directly offering this huge amount of money directly to the girl, because otherwise the bar couldn't live without me, so I have to think about these poor souls too.

That way, sweet heart cannot refuse to sleep with me and she will give me hands down one of the top 5 experiences in my whole life, I'm sure about that.

Naturally I'll give 2000 baht tip to the mamasan cashier too, because otherwise the experience wouldn't be so good, and the girl would look at me like I'm a cheap charlie, which I don't want.

And naturally, I'll not put a foot in the soi again after that epic night, because obviously I would be targeted as a soft guy or an ATM, which I'm not too.

So to sum it up, not cheap but I can afford it (I'm a western guy) and honestly it would be too dumb to still miss on these kind of experiences just to save a few pounds.[/QUOTE]Please don't be silly.

The going rate is 40 drinks. LOL.

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876485]I got a penalty I think?

Reason: TVS. TV-TS-SheMales.

I am not allowed to post pictures or tripreports of ladyboys?[/QUOTE]Even if the board allowed it, which I was always under the impression it doesn't, do you really want to reveal your preferences in a place where such preferences are the subject of numerous mental giggles?

Sometimes I wonder what the guys who keep asking questions about how to recognize a ladyboy are really looking for.

I must say that's the first report I've ever seen regarding a ladyboy during my time on this forum, which stretches back to the early days of its existence.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876508]I think that was under the previous owner. The present owner has even had lewd banner ads of ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Thank Allah it's not just me seeing the DICK in a banner ad here.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2876562]Thank Allah it's not just me seeing the DICK in a banner ad here.[/QUOTE]If you're seeing danglers in any banner ad It's the fault of Google not the owners of the board. The ads or generic, take one, take all.

I personally have never seen one.

Maybe a dumb question but how long actually is ST? Is it just until you pop once? Or is it fun for a full hour and if that means you can pop twice in that time, you can? I have just been treating it like my experience in the US scene, where as soon as you pop it's over. Have had most girls want to cuddle after and I kind of usher them to leave because I assume they won't let me go round two.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2876572]Maybe a dumb question but how long actually is ST? Is it just until you pop once? Or is it fun for a full hour and if that means you can pop twice in that time, you can? I have just been treating it like my experience in the US scene, where as soon as you pop it's over. Have had most girls want to cuddle after and I kind of usher them to leave because I assume they won't let me go round two.[/QUOTE]Actually it an excellent question. For me it is whatever I negotiate. I do not negotiate over time. I negotiate over service. Most girls want more money but they will give the second [I]shot[/I] (their word) for a discount. I always tell my Thai Friendly girls that I will decide if I want a second [I]shot[/I] after our first one. I consider it an incentive for them to perform well in order to pick up more money in the same trip to see me.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2876380]Exactly my experience too.

Although I wouldn't give these girls numbers, there were definitaly a few I would have wanted to bang but I didn't do because of lack of chemistry or because they simply asked too much.

But I've seen lately a few lovely looking new comers than I plan to meet and I'm thinking in changing my tactics and become a new generation monger instead of the old school guy that I've always been.

Not dirt cheap anymore if you follow the winners.

I plan to copy them next time, but only with a few selected girls (if they are still around in a few months).

I will target a few girls on the 6 that I want to bang, I'm still hesitating between offering 80 or 120 water shots for her (yes, even though I don't know her yet, I already love her and care about her health, so no alcohol, no sugar) or I'll make a statement and go directly for 200 or even 500 shots.

Now I'm convinced it's better to do it that way instead of directly offering this huge amount of money directly to the girl, because otherwise the bar couldn't live without me, so I have to think about these poor souls too.

That way, sweet heart cannot refuse to sleep with me and she will give me hands down one of the top 5 experiences in my whole life, I'm sure about that.

Naturally I'll give 2000 baht tip to the mamasan cashier too, because otherwise the experience wouldn't be so good, and the girl would look at me like I'm a cheap charlie, which I don't want.

And naturally, I'll not put a foot in the soi again after that epic night, because obviously I would be targeted as a soft guy or an ATM, which I'm not too.

So to sum it up, not cheap but I can afford it (I'm a western guy) and honestly it would be too dumb to still miss on these kind of experiences just to save a few pounds.[/QUOTE]If you are going to post a parody, do it right man. I never said that I wouldn't step foot in the soi again. I said I would not step foot in the same bar for a while. The reason is I want to choose a different lady. Get your facts straight lol.

Great post though mate. I am glad my posts entertained you so much for you to conger up all this creative energy.

If another punter buying many drinks in a bar affects you this much or disturbs you this much, then I am happy you were entertained. Just waiting for your next Pattaya report though. I hope it will be as entertaining as this post. LOL.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2870786] Why would I care what other guys are doing.[/QUOTE]


However, then I would question this statement.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2876572]Maybe a dumb question but how long actually is ST? Is it just until you pop once? Or is it fun for a full hour and if that means you can pop twice in that time, you can? I have just been treating it like my experience in the US scene, where as soon as you pop it's over. Have had most girls want to cuddle after and I kind of usher them to leave because I assume they won't let me go round two.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya, at least for my STs, it's actually whatever you and the girl agree on. Typically you are correct in saying it's one pop. However, I have had STs want to cuddle too and I kinda just pushed on through for a second pop. I then gave them a tip over and above what the agreed upon rate was. This experience is in reference to Thai Friendly deliveries I ordered in where everything has been pre arranged. For a ST from a bar, for me it has been anywhere from 1 to 3 pops and 1-4 hours. ST from a bar means me taking her to my condo for a ST. The most pops I have gotten on a ST on the bars premises is two. I still gave a tip as well.

So, in summary, typically one pop but it is whatever you and the girl negotiate and sometimes shit happens LOL.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2876572]Maybe a dumb question but how long actually is ST? Is it just until you pop once? Or is it fun for a full hour and if that means you can pop twice in that time, you can?[/QUOTE]It's about clarifying beforehand. If you want 2 shots, make sure the girl knows before you take her. Most girls spend the entire time with you as long as they are enjoying your company. You're not really rushed in any of the Pattaya places except maybe in a MP.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2875371]I've met and fucked 3 nice massage MILFs from soi 13/1 and 13/2 via meeting them on TF first.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Damn straight my ISG Brother. I had a experience with a MILF 39, that responded to my message on Thai Friendly. She gave me her whatapp. She invited me to her massage shop. I negotiated everything before I even met her. I told her I wanted an excellent complete oil massage and then at the end I wanted her to suck my dick until she tasted the flavor of my splooge. She agreed!

I did not come right away. In fact I put her off for a few days. When I was ready to come she to here shop she said she was busy. She asked me to wait. I told her I am already on my way. I told her give me the name of another girl that works there that does the same as you and I'll see her. Suddenly she became available. She was waiting for me to arrive.

She was very touchy and gave me a hug. She my hand and led me to the room. Thought this was kind of weird on our first meeting but just went with it. She gave me a plastic basket to put my belongings. She excused herself while I got undressed. She then returned with the supplies she needed for the massage.

So she engages me in small talk. Standard questions: [I]How long you been in Pattaya? Do you like it? Do you have a girl friend? Why not? Why didn't you ask me to your room? Do you like sex?[/I] Ok, the answers in my mind were I didn't invite you to my room because I actually like getting a real massage and then getting my dick sucked and coming the mouth of girl who gave me the massage. I don't have a girlfriend because most girls here in Pattaya are letting random mother fuckers cum in their mouths and pussy. Why would I want a girlfriend like that? LOL! Besides when I can cum in a mouth or pussy of random girls why would I want a girlfriend unless she was going to continue to let me live the lifestyle I wanted to live without hassle? Anyway, I found the small talk amusing, cute and relaxing as she was trying to develop chemistry with me and rapport.

She gave me an excellent massage on my posterior body. She then had me flip for the massage on my anterior. Another excellent massage. She did not half ass it. She gave me a complete massage. Then she excused herself again.

She returned with wipes. Wiped my (you know what) down and then proceeded to start sucking me. I asked asked to see her breasts and she pulled up her top and undid her bra. She was actually sucking me good. So I had her get up on the massage table between my legs as that is my favored position when I am lying down. Solid sucking motion, all the way down. Very little use of her hands on my dick. Played with my balls until it was that time. I blew my splooge and it was fun watching her take that first spirt in her mouth. She did not revolt but did not say on my (you know what) I continued to blow splooge onto her mouth and lips and was quite surprised that the power behind my ejaculation. She dribbled my splooge back onto my dick and milked my dick until she got it all out. She got a wipe for herself first then cleaned me up. She excused herself again and let me rest for a couple of minutes. She came back and waited with me in the room until I was ready to get up and get dressed. I did. I then paid her.

She gave me a hug and then escorted me out of the room holding my hand. Out in front of the shop she gave me a hug. I walked to the edge of the street and waved down a Baht Bus and continued on my way.

Cannot report a price. Because the Pussy Price Police (PPP) been giving me heat and the Bangkok boys be snitching (they are not having the fun we are in Pattaya). I don't want to risk it. But trust me, I am running in true SubCmdr style (running quiet and running deep) and not walking around in the heat to hit my price point. I find the Baht Bus to be very useful tool for getting many mundane things in Pattaya along with exciting things like pussy. The Baht Bus more or less dropped me off in front of her shop.

[I]Im gonna spread the news, that if it feels this good getting used, well they can just keep on using me, until they use me up[/I] - [B]Bill Withers[/B], Use Me.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[U]Fuck the Price Police![/U]

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2876100]Price Police 🚓 report to duty. 😂.[/QUOTE]Raj Raj you went undercover but you've been made. Better have your supervisor pull you out. Tell him to give you a raise and have you actually write a report.

Oil Massage 300; BBBJCIM 700; Watching her deal with my cum: Priceless!

Imagine Banning yourself from a Soi 6 bar because you acted like a FOOL.

Don't be that guy.

Pro tip: don't act like a FOOL. Not direct this at anyone in particular. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2876589]If another punter buying many drinks in a bar affects you this much or disturbs you this much, then I am happy you were entertained.

However, then I would question this statement.[/QUOTE]Don't take it personally mate, it's all about fun, nothing serious.

Your behaviour in the bar really doesn't affect me, it rather keeps me entertained as you said.

And you're not the only winner, there's another one who uses 1 K baht notes for tips.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2876401]The chick that asks for 5 K ST with the long ass essay about how too good she is? Those aren't her boobs and during COVID she went for 2000. Just an average fuck with a NO repeat for me.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's Goya. I've not met her myself but reports say that she is a hardened pro with a handler. All business and does not look as half as good as the photo's. Many say that she's not even worth 2 K.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2876643]Yes, it's Goya. I've not met her myself but reports say that she is a hardened pro with a handler. All business and does not look as half as good as the photo's. Many say that she's not even worth 2 K.[/QUOTE]I agree, I had her for 2,000 and I won't repeat.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2876534]Be careful too many infractions you get cancelled. So my Friend tells me.[/QUOTE]Only to come back under a different name.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2876643]Yes, it's Goya. I've not met her myself but reports say that she is a hardened pro with a handler. All business and does not look as half as good as the photo's. Many say that she's not even worth 2 K.[/QUOTE]What the hell happened to you get what you pay for? If the price is 5000, then it has to be great right?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876696]What the hell happened to you get what you pay for? If the price is 5000, then it has to be great right?[/QUOTE]Lot of guys pay for looks? Read this forum. Seems that LOOKS is linked to a price (and having an onlyfans might). Most guys here write about 8/9's on LOOKS but hardly you read a report about someone who fucked an average chick but had a 10+ pornstar experience.

For me I set the bar at 4 K LT. Girl might look like a 10 but if she "demands" more you know she fucks whoever is willing to pay her price. At the "normal" price range you might get seriously decent agogo ladies who just LIKE you (me in this case) what will be a better GFE anyway.

And it's not about me being "cheap" because happened several times I pissed away 10-15 K on drinks party with a chick (not including HER drinks).

Most guys here forget a tip I got 20 years ago. "go for the lady that picks you, not the other way around" .

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2876219]Was sent this pic from a mate from a TH forum. This glamour will be on my list if she is there on Soi 6 tonight.[/QUOTE]She is perfect 10 in my book! I hope the performance matches the looks!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2876615]Damn straight my ISG Brother. I had a experience with a MILF 39, that responded to my message on Thai Friendly.
[/QUOTE]Why are you bragging about having sex with a granny when there are thousands of young girls available for the same price? Last time I was in pattaya (September) I used to pay 1 k-1. 5 k a ST with a 21 years old girls.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2876976]Why are you bragging about having sex with a granny when there are thousands of young girls available for the same price? [/QUOTE]Dude how old are you that you consider a 39 yo a "granny" ?

And why was that the only part of the commander's excellent report you saw fit to comment on?

P.S. Some of us are older than 39 and are happy with a provider who's younger than us without all the usual adolescent bullshit.

And sometimes it's nice to mix it up. 20 yo one day, 30 yo the next.

Less sniping about other punters' preferences, and more reports of your own please.

XS, Palace, Pin up. Not like how they once were even dating back to 12 months ago?

This is the only girl I found remotely close to what I like even though arms and legs are a bit skinny.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876986]XS, Palace, Pin up. Not like how they once were even dating back to 12 months ago?

This is the only girl I found remotely close to what I like even though arms and legs are a bit skinny.[/QUOTE]Everyone has their own view of hotness.

IMO, the one you've shown us would not even get a second glance by me (maybe if naked), as her face I do not find attractive at all.

So, the positive of it, you and I won't be competing for the same ladies should we cross paths on a night out in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876986]XS, Palace, Pin up. Not like how they once were even dating back to 12 months ago?

This is the only girl I found remotely close to what I like even though arms and legs are a bit skinny.[/QUOTE]2 weeks ago XS had the best Line up but was very busy. Palace has some really fun girls but not as good as XS. Pin Up was just ok, actually I was disappointed. Strangely enough Fahrenheit had a few really cute spinners.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876986]XS, Palace, Pin up. Not like how they once were even dating back to 12 months ago?

This is the only girl I found remotely close to what I like even though arms and legs are a bit skinny.[/QUOTE]I have been chatting to a hot XS girl on Facebook. Here is what she said to me. When she works, she has so many drinks bought for her, it's giving her bad health. Now she is on a break for a few days. The girls who are hot get bar fined early. Other often take time off for the above reason. Seems you may have been in on an off day.

The last time I was at Pin Up there were a lot of hot girls there.

Do their any age limit for partners in in boom boom? I mean can a 70 year old guy can boom a 19 year old girl? Any stigma? I believe that Alsatian can boom boom a Pomeranian, if situation permits coming to Pattaya after a long break.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2877057]Do their any age limit for partners in in boom boom? I mean can a 70 year old guy can boom a 19 year old girl? Any stigma? I believe that Alsatian can boom boom a Pomeranian, if situation [URL]permits.Com[/URL]ing to Pattaya after a long break.[/QUOTE]70 with 19? Sure, why not? I'm about 70 and in the last month have been with 2 or 3 that are under 22. In fact, while writing this report I just received a Line message from a 22 year old go go girl who wants another session with me (well, she wants the money and is wishing that I want the session). My last time with a pre-20 girl was about 10 months ago and it wasn't all that great.

Although 18 is available to us old men, it isn't what I usually prefer.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2877057]Do their any age limit for partners in in boom boom? ......[/QUOTE]The girls do not mind whether the bills are old and wrinkled or new and crisp. Baht is baht as long as its not counterfeit.

[QUOTE=SedNabokos;2876984]Dude how old are you that you consider a 39 yo a "granny" ?.....[/QUOTE]Most likely she could be his granny which makes him something like 9. I always suspected there are posters fooling around with their laptops.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2877010]Everyone has their own view of hotness.

IMO, the one you've shown us would not even get a second glance by me (maybe if naked), as her face I do not find attractive at all.

So, the positive of it, you and I won't be competing for the same ladies should we cross paths on a night out in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Some advice to those who would listen. Never let ISGers' opinions on girls' looks determine whether you visit a mongering spot or not.

Why not? You will get to see many old men with girls in Pattaya. Girls, as we all know, don't care about the age but work for money.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2877057]Do their any age limit for partners in in boom boom? I mean can a 70 year old guy can boom a 19 year old girl? Any stigma? I believe that Alsatian can boom boom a Pomeranian, if situation [URL]permits.Com[/URL]ing to Pattaya after a long break.[/QUOTE]

Better Indicator of No High Season. Mucho more than Bargirls cancelling on our FRIEND.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1314181-thailand-to-move-away-from-foreign-tourism-and-rely-more-on-home-travellers-in-the-latest-tat-masterplan/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876986]XS, Palace, Pin up. Not like how they once were even dating back to 12 months ago?

This is the only girl I found remotely close to what I like even though arms and legs are a bit skinny.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree, I like Sapphire and have a little regular from there (Coyote) outside of her work but I still have a drink or 2 there most nights. There is one girl at Sapphire, pic below (name I think is Cake) who I find captivating but I'm not paying her ST vig and BF (4 k and 2 k).

XS has some real tiny spinners which I really like, but YMMV. One girl there weighed 80 lbs and was a glorious root but she has been taking regular STD tests so I'm passing on her forever.

I like some of the tight bods at Red Hot and Blue which is more GC than Agogo for me. Also a place called Stunners had some very pretty lasses when I was there 4 weeks ago.

I've found another TINY 88 lb sex doll on TF. LT for 4 k. Will post a report after my trip when she's bled my wallet and balls dry. Will repeat today and each day until I get bored (which means tomorrow based on my history).

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2876811]Lot of guys pay for looks? Read this forum. Seems that LOOKS is linked to a price (and having an onlyfans might). Most guys here write about 8/9's on LOOKS but hardly you read a report about someone who fucked an average chick but had a 10+ pornstar experience.

For me I set the bar at 4 K LT. Girl might look like a 10 but if she "demands" more you know she fucks whoever is willing to pay her price. At the "normal" price range you might get seriously decent agogo ladies who just LIKE you (me in this case) what will be a better GFE anyway.

And it's not about me being "cheap" because happened several times I pissed away 10-15 K on drinks party with a chick (not including HER drinks).

Most guys here forget a tip I got 20 years ago. "go for the lady that picks you, not the other way around" .[/QUOTE]I don't like this. Over many DATA points not one who aggressively came after me was higher than a 3. 99.

I need to be Visually Stimulated. I'm guessing 50% of Sexpats don't give a BLEEP what a girl looks like. Not Hating just observing. Like we all know it takes all of us for Thailand to work.

[QUOTE=DCups;2876879]She is perfect 10 in my book! I hope the performance matches the looks![/QUOTE]Sorry mate, the picture is actually doctored, apparently she is a looker but NOWHERE near as good as the picture. I've passed on her.

Hotness needs to be in 2 categories. Thai men style or Farang style.

Thai Men style Baitoey is the GOLD STANDARD, not quite Platininum due to still growing Boobas. Being nice.

Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]Massage republic and eurogirls have girls claiming to be Lao that are incredible looking. I am planning to contact one in January when I go to Bangkok.

Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]I know this is a Pattaya section but I found several Lao FL working at the Hillary 2 bar near Nana.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2877285]Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.[/QUOTE]The majority of all bars and clubs go downhill overtime. It is just hard to keep that edge and many managers and owners get burned out and the club suffers. Another thing can happen if you frequent the same bar tor club o often is that the girls think you are part of the furniture and you will always return.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2877293]I know this is a Pattaya section but I found several Lao FL working at the Hillary 2 bar near Nana.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. Are they attractive?

[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2877247]Massage republic and eurogirls have girls claiming to be Lao that are incredible looking. I am planning to contact one in January when I go to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I've used massagerepublic quite a bit. In HK. Very poor strike rate. Doubt if I would ever use it in TH.

YMMV.

Be interested in ratings for these 2 bewts from each and all. Girl on right (Cake) is a 10/10 for me. Left girl is an 8/10.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]There are Lao girls all over Nana. You should be able to communicate with Isaan girls easily.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]I hit the report button before I was finished, and I note that 80% of Isaan girls I have met our fluent or semi fluent in Lao. I would also add that when you are in Bangkok or probably any where else in Thailand, and especially if in Laos, do not speak Lao to the cops. And my experience, the street authorities like to fuck with young SE Asian Americans.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2877298]The majority of all bars and clubs go downhill overtime. It is just hard to keep that edge and many managers and owners get burned out and the club suffers. Another thing can happen if you frequent the same bar tor club o often is that the girls think you are part of the furniture and you will always return.[/QUOTE]When repeatedly visit same club, one girl will catch us and hold as her property in further visits. I usually declare that I'm a butterfly so it is my will and accord to choose my favourites. Any way the GFE standard can go down, who cares, but bath can buy anything at the time of spending. No possessiveness, no strings only boom boom is the theory in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]Lao are not allowed to work in bars etc. I know two who are, one works freelance and the other one works illigal (in a bar in soi made in thailand (but in a bar at the back so not directly facing the street). Both have Thaifriendly.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2877285]Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.[/QUOTE]I frequent the place I consider it one of the best if not the best and that is on non-food days only. Like looks etc. When it comes to clubs it isn't too much different in my book. I was there several times in October with family and friends visiting I thought the lineup was better than before to be honest, early in November I went by myself and found it even better. I've never had a problem with drinks pushy going for the last ten years same for me, they stare or come up not my cup of tea I say politely no or later want to look more.

What I did notice during my visit in November, not see Asian groups there were a number usually myself or another but this time two or three groups. Drinks are cheap BF only 350 and standard rate quoted is still 1000 baht.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877209]Better Indicator of No High Season. Mucho more than Bargirls cancelling on our FRIEND.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1314181-thailand-to-move-away-from-foreign-tourism-and-rely-more-on-home-travellers-in-the-latest-tat-masterplan/[/URL][/QUOTE]Agree 100%. A 40% drop (compare to 2019) in estimated revenue is huge!

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]You are in luck.

90% of bar girls speak Isaan, which is virtually identical to Lao.

There are 3 dialects of Isaan, which match the 3 dialects of Lao.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877209]Better Indicator of No High Season. Mucho more than Bargirls cancelling on our FRIEND.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1314181-thailand-to-move-away-from-foreign-tourism-and-rely-more-on-home-travellers-in-the-latest-tat-masterplan/[/URL][/QUOTE]TAT says not so many Chinese tourists coming.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2877325]When repeatedly visit same club, one girl will catch us and hold as her property in further visits. I usually declare that I'm a butterfly so it is my will and accord to choose my favourites......[/QUOTE]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2877396]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?[/QUOTE]A butterfly is a guy who is clear about changing ladies all the time. If someone is "NOT" a butterfly it means the girls expect loyalty. However this is a one way street. Of course she can have different customers because it's "work" and she does for "family".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2877396]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?[/QUOTE]Weak willed customers succumb to bargirls telling them about "butterflies". This ends up with the customer buying drinks for her friends, ringing the bell, and some nights going back to the hotel alone because she's with another customer.

Never let a bargirl badger you into becoming "her" property.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, Pattaya has a huge selection of true Laos girls working here. For example, there are two working at Play Girlz go go. There are plenty working in Soi 6 and many freelancers on TF and in the clubs on WS working. I kinda consider myself an expert on this. I have been in Thailand for 14 years and I have had 5 Laos Gfs and bagged many more ST and LT from clubs and go go bars and Thai Friendly. My current Laos girl I am seeing is from a live stream. The problem is they look very similar to Thai woman, especially the Isaan girls, so most guys think they are Thai. They typically have lighter skin, but not in all cases.

They won't volunteer to tell you they are Laos because they are mostly all working here illegally. However, I can spot them a mile away. To me, an open minded Laos girl is a better fuck than a Thai girl.

There are also plenty working in Bangkok too. In Soi Cowboy, Nana, and freelancing on TF and in the clubs. In Bangkok, many are legal with MOUs and freelance on the side. The ones working in the bars will pay for their MOU as a laborer but actually they just work as a freelancer or in a bar. This is less common in Pattaya as Pattaya is easier for them to blend in and work illegally. There are just so many girls here.

One last point. I travel to Laos frequently, so I would also suggest a trip to Vientiane. Others say there is no monger scene there. They are sadly mistaken. You just have to be in the know.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2877330]Lao are not allowed to work in bars etc. I know two who are, one works freelance and the other one works illigal (in a bar in soi made in thailand (but in a bar at the back so not directly facing the street). Both have Thaifriendly.[/QUOTE]There are a lot more here than you think.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2877285]Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.[/QUOTE]In the past, 100% of the girls there were freelance. Meaning that they make their 50 baht per drink and whatever they get from you for doing a ST in the room. However, Kineree has started to hire a few girls on 10 day contracts. This means that they now get a salary which is dependent on how many drinks are bought for them. So, if going down hill in your mind is only about pushing for lady drinks, this is the reason why. If you also think the standards are down, meaning the girls are less attractive recently, there is a reason for that too. The reason is that it's high season. During high season, the girls will be busy freelancing on TF getting more money or they will take a high paying go go bar job during high season. I know 2 Pin up girls that freelance at Kineree in the off seasons. So, when it's slow in Pattaya, they move to a gents club to capitalize on making money from the local expats. In high season, they can find money in the normal ways. From October onwards, many new bars opened and existing bars started to advertise for jobs. Agents pushed to find ladies to work and the girls were offered higher salaries. Therefore, right now, the better girls are not working in Kineree. They will be bak though after a few months to the slums with us soon lol. Hope this helps. I too am a long time customer here, as well as other Gents clubs in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877483]However, Kineree has started to hire a few girls on 10 day contracts. This means that they now get a salary which is dependent on how many drinks are bought for them. So, if going down hill in your mind is only about pushing for lady drinks, this is the reason why.[/QUOTE]This is not a good thing at all. I'm assuming these are just the regularl Kinnaree girls and not like when they hold a birthday party for one of their regular customers. At those parties Kinnaree brings gogo girls from BKK gogo bars and Sapphire to dance on tables and give lap dances for drinks. Those are the best Kinnaree days.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2877496]This is not a good thing at all. I'm assuming these are just the regularl Kinnaree girls and not like when they hold a birthday party for one of their regular customers. At those parties Kinnaree brings gogo girls from BKK gogo bars and Sapphire to dance on tables and give lap dances for drinks. Those are the best Kinnaree days.[/QUOTE]I like those parties too. I have a question for you. If having those parties where go go girls from BKK and Saphire come and work for drinks are the best Kinnaree days, why is this new trend not a good thing at all. Just do what I have been recently doing here. If I buy them a lot of drinks, they need to get naughtier with me. Naughty meaning the same kind of naughty that happens at Maggie Mays and Club Fate. Yes, I have achieved that here.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877480]There are a lot more here than you think.[/QUOTE]I bet there are a lot more chicks from Laos. I just said they not work in most bars because hire a chick from Laos could be a big problem for the bar (work permit and all).

The next time someone posts that Pattaya has gone downhill, and they are thinking of visiting other countries, think about this:

I am in Tijuana, Mexico, the premier mongering location in North America. The ladies ask $120 - $150 for short time. Everything is covered. Drinks are $9. The hotel room is $85 a night for a small room.

Not much English.

If you want to respond about Tijuana, please post in the appropriate section, I am just comparing Tijuana to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2876811]
And it's not about me being "cheap" because happened several times I pissed away 10-15 K on drinks party with a chick (not including HER drinks).

Most guys here forget a tip I got 20 years ago. "go for the lady that picks you, not the other way around" .[/QUOTE]I know that Martin is not a cheap*ss. I was part of this craziness too. Still I contributed 5 k. The second time MartinFlevo went 15 k by himself (last day is Patts) . 555!

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2872700]Really no point in posting Photos without Faces.[/QUOTE]Still waiting for your pics.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2877413]Weak willed customers succumb to bargirls telling them about "butterflies". This ends up with the customer buying drinks for her friends, ringing the bell, and some nights going back to the hotel alone because she's with another customer.

Never let a bargirl badger you into becoming "her" property.[/QUOTE]I tell them all I am a big butterfly, a bored butterfly but will look after them for the moment if they look after moi. Butterflies like to move on yada yada yada.

And I think you are MartinFlevo mentioned something I learned myself the hard way in life. "Let the girl pick you. If she shows interest in you, you have a chance at some joy".

YMMV.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877483]I too am a long time customer here, as well as other Gents clubs in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I did a report back in October mainly about GCs in Pattaya, Jomtien and Pratumnak. As a senior member of the forum and a fellow GC officionado, I would be interested to read your ranking of say your favourite 5 gents clubs and your reasons for ranking them. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;2877529]Still waiting for your pics.[/QUOTE]He did approve of Baitoey from Playpen Soi 6. Once that got a thumbs up I doubt he will find much better.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2877506]The next time someone posts that Pattaya has gone downhill, and they are thinking of visiting other countries, think about this:

I am in Tijuana, Mexico, the premier mongering location in North America. The ladies ask $120 - $150 for short time. Everything is covered. Drinks are $9. The hotel room is $85 a night for a small room.

Not much English.

If you want to respond about Tijuana, please post in the appropriate section, I am just comparing Tijuana to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Pattaya has gone Downhill but so has Bangkok. Only thing propping up Walk Street is the new Weed shops.

America has gone downhill, quite fast since 2012. One biggie is Las Vegas. Crime is Exploding.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877476]Believe it or not, Pattaya has a huge selection of true Laos girls working here. For example, there are two working at Play Girlz go go. There are plenty working in Soi 6 and many freelancers on TF and in the clubs on WS working. I kinda consider myself an expert on this. I have been in Thailand for 14 years and I have had 5 Laos Gfs and bagged many more ST and LT from clubs and go go bars and Thai Friendly. My current Laos girl I am seeing is from a live stream. The problem is they look very similar to Thai woman, especially the Isaan girls, so most guys think they are Thai. They typically have lighter skin, but not in all cases.

They won't volunteer to tell you they are Laos because they are mostly all working here illegally. However, I can spot them a mile away. To me, an open minded Laos girl is a better fuck than a Thai girl.

There are also plenty working in Bangkok too. In Soi Cowboy, Nana, and freelancing on TF and in the clubs. In Bangkok, many are legal with MOUs and freelance on the side. The ones working in the bars will pay for their MOU as a laborer but actually they just work as a freelancer or in a bar. This is less common in Pattaya as Pattaya is easier for them to blend in and work illegally. There are just so many girls here.

One last point. I travel to Laos frequently, so I would also suggest a trip to Vientiane. Others say there is no monger scene there. They are sadly mistaken. You just have to be in the know.[/QUOTE]Firstly, there is also a lot of Lao ladies in Phuket, and ladyboys. LOL.

Totally agree with you that there is one hell of an active, yet underground, even covert scene in Laos.

The thing is tho, that once the girls are of a certain age, they can easily slip across into Thailand, mingle in and work there.

So what that means is that if you are looking for younger ones in Laos, in Vientiane, be careful of ages, as most are just that, younger.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877565]Pattaya has gone Downhill but so has Bangkok. Only thing propping up Walk Street is the new Weed shops.

America has gone downhill, quite fast since 2012. One biggie is Las Vegas. Crime is Exploding.[/QUOTE]The obvious question is what place hasn't gone downhill?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2877506]The next time someone posts that Pattaya has gone downhill, and they are thinking of visiting other countries, think about this:
[/QUOTE]As one who has only gotten into the mongering scene just shy of 4 years ago, only started to research Thailand 3 years ago, and had my first trip there one year ago (with a second very soon), I've seen reports that said Thailand and Pattaya have been on a sharp decline for the last two decades.

Yea, sure. It's always downhill from here. Reminds me of a shepherd tone where it's always seemingly going down lower and lower [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GkuXfgUoro[/URL].

None the less, I've not found anywhere else on the planet that you can get better bang for your buck than Thailand. Discounting the airfare, which for those in Asia or Australia, is significantly less than those from America or Europe. Honestly, Thailand ruined mongering for me anywhere else. I've tried DR, Canada, and places in a few states. You can't beat the prices here. If it's all been doing downhill since the 2000's, then everywhere else is even worse. At least in my town, there is a K-spa with girls in their 30's who won't do anything for any less than 250.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2877727]The obvious question is what place hasn't gone downhill?[/QUOTE]When are the good times? The good times are now. Who knows what tomorrow will be like?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2877560]I did a report back in October mainly about GCs in Pattaya, Jomtien and Pratumnak. As a senior member of the forum and a fellow GC officionado, I would be interested to read your ranking of say your favourite 5 gents clubs and your reasons for ranking them. Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. Maggie Mays due to the neighborhood bar feeling with that naughtiness that we all love. Newly renovated with a second side and a pool table. They let me play whatever music I like. Often customers will take turns being the DJ. I could be sitting shooting the shit with one of my buddies drinking a Guinness and beside me another punter would be going down on one of the girls. Then 5 minutes later, I am fucking one of the girls behind a curtain. Then 40 minutes later, another girl would give me a lift home and fuck my brains out on my sofa, beg for me to fuck her in the ass, and then wake me up at 9 am for another creampie round.

2. Club Fate. I love this place because it is like Maggie mays on crack. All the same as above, but much more naughty. Getting blow jobs on the sofa at the back, the great looking short time rooms, and the nice long bar where I can mingle with the ladies and fuck around.

3. Cat Flaps. I like this place because it's very near to my condo. It's kind of a mix between my number 1 and number 2. Great sound system, great pool table, and it's huge.

For 1, 2, and 3, my only complaint is on somedays, the line ups are in consistent. On one day there may be a ton of hotties. Then the next day, the line up is questionable. That's ok, because if one is not good, I will go to one of the other ones.

4. One of my new place. Beyond Bar 2. The old manager and cashier from Maggie Mays are there now. They are making some great changes and the line up is getting better every week. Then Kinnaree for being laid back and inviting. On any given day, the lineup can be completely different because most of the girls are freelancers.

5. Buzzing Lounge for its large space and consistent line up. One of the bast on the Soi.

Honorable mentions to Heaven Above and Play Girlze as G club / go go bar.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877565]Pattaya has gone Downhill but so has Bangkok. Only thing propping up Walk Street is the new Weed shops.

America has gone downhill, quite fast since 2012. One biggie is Las Vegas. Crime is Exploding.[/QUOTE]Forty drinks AKA Raj. Any report on Pattaya from you yet? Any photos to post? Do you have anything valuable to contribute to the forum? I am really looking forward to one of your reports. Thanks in advance for your next contribution.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2877680]Firstly, there is also a lot of Lao ladies in Phuket, and ladyboys. LOL.

Totally agree with you that there is one hell of an active, yet underground, even covert scene in Laos.

The thing is tho, that once the girls are of a certain age, they can easily slip across into Thailand, mingle in and work there.

So what that means is that if you are looking for younger ones in Laos, in Vientiane, be careful of ages, as most are just that, younger.[/QUOTE]The point is that if I was asked to organize a party in Pattaya with all Loas girls and no Thai girls, I could do it with little to no effort at all. I reckon I could get about 50.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877746]Forty drinks AKA Raj. Any report on Pattaya from you yet? Any photos to post? Do you have anything valuable to contribute to the forum? I am really looking forward to one of your reports. Thanks in advance for your next contribution.[/QUOTE]Come on man. What do you need reports and photos for? He already told you time and time again that he thinks Baitoey is cute and before that the girl that was working at Amsterdam. He has provided you with links to hours on end of Pattaya youtube videos. What on ISG is more valuable than that?

[URL]https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhPM6R2w8vbwqpi41q/a-real-menace-to-society-professional-online-hater-showing-yall-how-its-done[/URL]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877744]1. Maggie Mays due to the neighborhood bar feeling with that naughtiness that we all love. Newly renovated with a second side and a pool table. They let me play whatever music I like. Often customers will take turns being the DJ. I could be sitting shooting the shit with one of my buddies drinking a Guinness and beside me another punter would be going down on one of the girls. Then 5 minutes later, I am fucking one of the girls behind a curtain. Then 40 minutes later, another girl would give me a lift home and fuck my brains out on my sofa, beg for me to fuck her in the ass, and then wake me up at 9 am for another creampie round.

2. Club Fate. I love this place because it is like Maggie mays on crack. All the same as above, but much more naughty. Getting blow jobs on the sofa at the back, the great looking short time rooms, and the nice long bar where I can mingle with the ladies and fuck around.

3. Cat Flaps. I like this place because it's very near to my condo. It's kind of a mix between my number 1 and number 2. Great sound system, great pool table, and it's huge.

For 1, 2, and 3, my only complaint is on somedays, the line ups are in consistent. On one day there may be a ton of hotties. Then the next day, the line up is questionable. That's ok, because if one is not good, I will go to one of the other ones.

4. One of my new place. Beyond Bar 2. The old manager and cashier from Maggie Mays are there now. They are making some great changes and the line up is getting better every week. Then Kinnaree for being laid back and inviting. On any given day, the lineup can be completely different because most of the girls are freelancers.

5. Buzzing Lounge for its large space and consistent line up. One of the bast on the Soi.

Honorable mentions to Heaven Above and Play Girlze as G club / go go bar.[/QUOTE]You go to the same places as I do, except for the Buzzin place.

I was told that Maggie Mays is building an internal stairway up to the short time rooms because previously, when customers walked outside with their barfine, the Buzzin ladies seated outside would catcall them (because "their" customer was going with another lady).

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877747]The point is that if I was asked to organize a party in Pattaya with all Loas girls and no Thai girls, I could do it with little to no effort at all. I reckon I could get about 50.[/QUOTE]I could get 75. Hahaha. OK under oath maybe 1.

But sir at what cost? 50 Lao girls at total cost of $35,000.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2877787]You go to the same places as I do, except for the Buzzin place.

I was told that Maggie Mays is building an internal stairway up to the short time rooms because previously, when customers walked outside with their barfine, the Buzzin ladies seated outside would catcall them (because "their" customer was going with another lady).[/QUOTE]No, the reason they are building an upstairs is because Steven wants more curtained areas. Upstairs has 2 TVs and more booths. The ST rooms are still outside and to the right. The new upstairs has no link to the ST rooms above the original side of Maggie Mays, but known Steven, he will knock the wall out and make a link.

About Buzzin, the main problem is Buzzin gets too busy and also Buzzin appeals to a certain type of clientele. They go to see Trevor and the line up is more consistent. Maggie Mays has a lineup that is hit and miss but gets the spin off from Buzzin if it's too busy and MM is way more dirty lol. This has caused a little friction between the managers of both places.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877893]No, the reason they are building an upstairs is because Steven wants more curtained areas. Upstairs has 2 TVs and more booths. The ST rooms are still outside and to the right. The new upstairs has no link to the ST rooms above the original side of Maggie Mays, but known Steven, he will nock the wall out and make a link.

About Buzzing, the main problem is Buzzin gets too busy and also Buzzin appeals to a certain type of clientele. They go to see Trevor and the line up is more consistent. Maggie Mays has a lineup that is hit and miss but gets the spin off from Buzzin if it's too busy. This has caused a little friction between the managers of both places.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about the new section of Maggie Mays, where there is an internal staircase going up to the new second floor. Rather I am talking about the plan to make an internal passage to the stairs going up to the second floor of the older section.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877765]Come on man. What do you need reports and photos for? He already told you time and time again that he thinks Baitoey is cute and before that the girl that was working at Amsterdam. He has provided you with links to hours on end of Pattaya youtube videos. What on ISG is more valuable than that?

[URL]https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhPM6R2w8vbwqpi41q/a-real-menace-to-society-professional-online-hater-showing-yall-how-its-done[/URL][/QUOTE]I think you might understand my next comment. I think 40 drinks, AKA Raj Patel is really AKA Jason Finch LOL. Does that name ring a bell. LOL.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877744]1. Maggie Mays due to the neighborhood bar feeling with that naughtiness that we all love. Newly renovated with a second side and a pool table. They let me play whatever music I like. Often customers will take turns being the DJ. I could be sitting shooting the shit with one of my buddies drinking a Guinness and beside me another punter would be going down on one of the girls. Then 5 minutes later, I am fucking one of the girls behind a curtain. Then 40 minutes later, another girl would give me a lift home and fuck my brains out on my sofa, beg for me to fuck her in the ass, and then wake me up at 9 am for another creampie round.

2. Club Fate. I love this place because it is like Maggie mays on crack. All the same as above, but much more naughty. Getting blow jobs on the sofa at the back, the great looking short time rooms, and the nice long bar where I can mingle with the ladies and fuck around.

3. Cat Flaps. I like this place because it's very near to my condo. It's kind of a mix between my number 1 and number 2. Great sound system, great pool table, and it's huge..[/QUOTE]We Are close.

GC -.

1. Fate. Really naughty, avg to be+ lasses.

2. Hunny. V naughty, be lasses.

3. Buzzin. Trev etc are fun. I go to watch Tip's rinsing antics. LDx20. Some A's but?

4. MaggieM. Thanks Sir Rod Stewart. Will be nos 1 when Steve stops fecking about.

5. Red Hot and Blue. Combo GC, Agogo.

Is Beyond Bar 2 the renovated Beyond Bar or is it at another location?

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877744]1. Maggie Mays due to the neighborhood bar feeling with that naughtiness that we all love. Newly renovated with a second side and a pool table. They let me play whatever music I like. Often customers will take turns being the DJ. I could be sitting shooting the shit with one of my buddies drinking a Guinness and beside me another punter would be going down on one of the girls. Then 5 minutes later, I am fucking one of the girls behind a curtain. Then 40 minutes later, another girl would give me a lift home and fuck my brains out on my sofa, beg for me to fuck her in the ass, and then wake me up at 9 am for another creampie round.

2. Club Fate. I love this place because it is like Maggie mays on crack. All the same as above, but much more naughty. Getting blow jobs on the sofa at the back, the great looking short time rooms, and the nice long bar where I can mingle with the ladies and fuck around.

3. Cat Flaps. I like this place because it's very near to my condo. It's kind of a mix between my number 1 and number 2. Great sound system, great pool table, and it's huge.

For 1, 2, and 3, my only complaint is on somedays, the line ups are in consistent. On one day there may be a ton of hotties. Then the next day, the line up is questionable. That's ok, because if one is not good, I will go to one of the other ones.

4. One of my new place. Beyond Bar 2. The old manager and cashier from Maggie Mays are there now. They are making some great changes and the line up is getting better every week. Then Kinnaree for being laid back and inviting. On any given day, the lineup can be completely different because most of the girls are freelancers.

5. Buzzing Lounge for its large space and consistent line up. One of the bast on the Soi.

Honorable mentions to Heaven Above and Play Girlze as G club / go go bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bellpepper;2877940]Is Beyond Bar 2 the renovated Beyond Bar or is it at another location?[/QUOTE]The original Beyond bar is on Soi Honey. It may be closed, or for sale.

Beyond Bar 2 is a new bar on Soi Chaiyapoon.

[QUOTE=Bellpepper;2877940]Is Beyond Bar 2 the renovated Beyond Bar or is it at another location?[/QUOTE]Its on Soi Pothole.

Hi guys.

Does anyone know how much is for AAA copy of Rolex from Me Jacks watches?

Normal copy is 3000 baht.

Regards.

1. Maggie May.

2. Catflaps.

3. Club fate.

4. Camel toe.

5. Lips lounge.

Buzzin is OK but not much of fun. It's like a normal bar where you just drink with girls Not fun like Maggie May.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877900]I think you might understand my next comment. I think 40 drinks, AKA Raj Patel is really AKA Jason Finch LOL. Does that name ring a bell. LOL.[/QUOTE]I've seen Jason Finch. Used to comment on many UTube Livestream s.

Still does I think. I m getting tired of watching Livestream s.

Me not him.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2878010]Top 5 gents clubs
1. Maggie May.
2. Catflaps.
3. Club fate.
4. Camel toe.
5. Lips lounge [/QUOTE]Best based on? Cheap beer? Dirty girls? Best service? My #1 criteria is looks.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2871108]
Top 5 :
1. Club Fate.
2. Amsterdam.
3. Heaven Above.
4. Kinnaree.
5. Cozy beach club.
[/QUOTE]

I know bars can change weekly but other than Club Fate your Top 5 looks completely different in a matter of 3 weeks. How are Passion, SeaHorse, KitCat, and other Jomtien G clubs these days? I''ve never been cause it's a bit far but have you been to PussyGalore?

[QUOTE=MGavin;2878009]Does anyone know how much is for AAA copy of Rolex from Me Jacks watches? Normal copy is 3000 baht.[/QUOTE]3000 baht is a ripoff. El cheapo (normal / horrible, people riding around selling them from motorbikes) copy 1000-1200 baht. Supercopy is 2200 or 2300 baht anywhere if you know how to negotiate the least bit. I use Mr Jacks for repairs but have never bought anything from there.

You can not tell a supercopy from a real one unless you know what the hell you are looking at. I have had mine side by side with someone wearing a real one and they had no idea. Funny as fuck when OJ lost his case and they took his watch. Only the jeweler knew the difference.

"O. J. Simpson has his fake Rolex watch back. The timepiece, seized earlier this week by attorneys for Fred Goldman, was returned to the former football star's lawyer Friday after it was determined to be a knockoff made in China. Cook had hoped the watch might be worth as much as $22,000, but an appraisal from San Francisco jeweler Shreve & Co. Concluded it was worth only about $100. Simpson had told his lawyer he paid $125 for it."

If OJ paid $125 for his supercopy then he did not negotiate or he bought it in the States. If you are paying $85 for a normal copy then you are paying more than 2 times as much as you should.

Baitoey nowhere to be found.

One of her mates hooked 2 Ugly Asian for drinks. She isn't aggressive at all but probably 2 n best looker there after you know who.

The main target when he Smiled had 2 rotten teeth. Major dental work upcoming.

I'm still not sold we have to be Hot to get decent Prostitute s.

Wrath had a new girl. Solid Hot all around. Thai style girl. Not surprised some guy took her for drinks. One drink is all it takes guys. Hahaha. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2878040]3000 baht is a ripoff. El cheapo (normal / horrible, people riding around selling them from motorbikes) copy 1000-1200 baht. Supercopy is 2200 or 2300 baht anywhere if you know how to negotiate the least bit. I use Mr Jacks for repairs but have never bought anything from there.

You can not tell a supercopy from a real one unless you know what the hell you are looking at. I have had mine side by side with someone wearing a real one and they had no idea. Funny as fuck when OJ lost his case and they took his watch. Only the jeweler knew the difference.

"O. J. Simpson has his fake Rolex watch back. The timepiece, seized earlier this week by attorneys for Fred Goldman, was returned to the former football star's lawyer Friday after it was determined to be a knockoff made in China. Cook had hoped the watch might be worth as much as $22,000, but an appraisal from San Francisco jeweler Shreve & Co. Concluded it was worth only about $100. Simpson had told his lawyer he paid $125 for it."

If OJ paid $125 for his supercopy then he did not negotiate or he bought it in the States. If you are paying $85 for a normal copy then you are paying more than 2 times as much as you should.[/QUOTE]A.

Bought a copy of a rare Petek in 1989 in BKK after owning the real watch. Fake lasted longer innit. $20 for the fake.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2878061]Baitoey nowhere to be found.

One of her mates hooked 2 Ugly Asian for drinks. She isn't aggressive at all but probably 2 n best looker there after you know who.

The main target when he Smiled had 2 rotten teeth. Major dental work upcoming.

I'm still not sold we have to be Hot to get decent Prostitute s.

Wrath had a new girl. Solid Hot all around. Thai style girl. Not surprised some guy took her for drinks. One drink is all it takes guys. Hahaha. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Is this XS Baitoey?

Heard she is rinsing patyrons!

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2872332]Those boobs look horrible, I can't stand when the nipples are way off center like that, such a turn off.[/QUOTE]Horrible? Hell no. Here is another pair of naturals with asymmetric off center nipples. What a turn off!

Baitoey I like is of Playpen. Soi 6.

Walking Street Burger King will be up and running soon. Much better located than McDonald's.

History. I asked girl how much to barfine her before. Never did.

Today I asked her to move so I could sit. Soi6 street view. She wasn't Happy at all. Mean Looking. I wonder if it's because I didn't follow thru on Barfining her.

So much DRAMA. Hahaha.

It crossed my mind to buy her 50 drinks. Teach her a lesson. Hahaha

P.S. I chose not to purchase said amount of drinks.

P.S. Haven't decided if I have to self ban from that Bar for 6 months. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2878326]Baitoey I like is of Playpen. Soi 6.

Walking Street Burger King will be up and running soon. Much better located than McDonald's.

History. I asked girl how much to barfine her before. Never did.

Today I asked her to move so I could sit. Soi6 street view. She wasn't Happy at all. Mean Looking. I wonder if it's because I didn't follow thru on Barfining her.

So much DRAMA. Hahaha.

It crossed my mind to buy her 50 drinks. Teach her a lesson. Hahaha

P.S. I chose not to purchase said amount of drinks.

P.S. Haven't decided if I have to self ban from that Bar for 6 months. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]A post about sitting alone in a bar on Soi 6.

You must be bored.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877744]1. Maggie Mays
2. Club Fate. I love this place because it is like Maggie mays on crack. All the same as above, but much more naughty. Getting blow jobs on the sofa at the back, the great looking short time rooms, and the nice long bar where I can mingle with the ladies and fuck around.

3. Cat Flaps.
4. Beyond Bar 2. Kinnaree for being laid back and inviting. On any given day, the lineup can be completely different because most of the girls are freelancers.

5. Buzzing Lounge for its large space and consistent line up. One of the bast on the Soi.

Honorable mentions to Heaven Above and Play Girlze as G club / go go bar.[/QUOTE]So firstly thanks for the comprehensive response from you (and others).

I am a little bemused by Maggie Mays making the top 5. I've obviously been unlucky each time I have gone (admittedly maybe only 5 times in 3 different visits but each time not spent long there). I would like a spin on that new round pool table. I love Club Fate because the girls openly invite "strip pool"/ removal of clothes for wins / losses. Got more than tipsy there in October with three girls and ended up trying to play my final game with 2 naked (defeated girls) supporting a third playing me in just a thong by which time I was down to some thin boxers, with a boner and the "interference" to ensure I couldn't pot the balls was x rated. Great fun.

Catflaps is great because it is modern, the circular bar is high end, as is the location, the owner is good fun but I have found the line up disappointing on occasions. I am not a fan of sex behind the curtains. Much prefer to take a room. So Fate (upstairs) High Rollers, etc better for me than MMs or Buzzin Not tried Beyond Bar 2 or Kinnaree but will do on my next trip early 2024. Are there going to be rooms upstairs in the new Maggie Mays or just more curtain areas? Good talent at Playgirlz but again. Prefer venues with onsite rooms. Must give MMs another shot given the renovations and your recommendation.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2878430]So firstly thanks for the comprehensive response from you (and others).

I am a little bemused by Maggie Mays making the top 5. I've obviously been unlucky each time I have gone (admittedly maybe only 5 times in 3 different visits but each time not spent long there). I would like a spin on that new round pool table. I love Club Fate because the girls openly invite "strip pool"/ removal of clothes for wins / losses. Got more than tipsy there in October with three girls and ended up trying to play my final game with 2 naked (defeated girls) supporting a third playing me in just a thong by which time I was down to some thin boxers, with a boner and the "interference" to ensure I couldn't pot the balls was x rated. Great fun.

Catflaps is great because it is modern, the circular bar is high end, as is the location, the owner is good fun but I have found the line up disappointing on occasions. I am not a fan of sex behind the curtains. Much prefer to take a room. So Fate (upstairs) High Rollers, etc better for me than MMs or Buzzin Not tried Beyond Bar 2 or Kinnaree but will do on my next trip early 2024. Are there going to be rooms upstairs in the new Maggie Mays or just more curtain areas? Good talent at Playgirlz but again. Prefer venues with onsite rooms. Must give MMs another shot given the renovations and your recommendation.[/QUOTE]The plan is short time rooms for the MM second floor (in the new section).

I don't use ST rooms often (I like to take the ladies home), but Club Fate has good ST rooms.

The best are on Soi 6 at the Red Point bar.

To illustrate the changes on Soi 6, a few years back, I was buying drinks for a bargirl. By the time we got to the third drink, she asked me if I was going to go upstairs with her. I said something non-committal, and she said "bye".

Today, a Soi 6 bargirl would rather drink all night than go to the room with a customer.

This may be unique to Soi 6, since doing ST all day really wears down the ladies. Bars in other areas don't have the same volume of horny customers, and many ladies go days without a customer fuck.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2878436]To illustrate the changes on Soi 6, a few years back, I was buying drinks for a bargirl. By the time we got to the third drink, she asked me if I was going to go upstairs with her. I said something non-committal, and she said "bye".

Today, a Soi 6 bargirl would rather drink all night than go to the room with a customer.

This may be unique to Soi 6, since doing ST all day really wears down the ladies. Bars in other areas don't have the same volume of horny customers, and many ladies go days without a customer fuck.[/QUOTE]Soi 6.

I'm pretty sure 60% of girls get less than 1 Barfine a month. And I'm being generous.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2878433]The plan is short time rooms for the MM second floor (in the new section).

I don't use ST rooms often (I like to take the ladies home), but Club Fate has good ST rooms.

The best are on Soi 6 at the Red Point bar.[/QUOTE]The best what are at Red Point?

Girls?

Services?

Price?

Amenities?

Rooms?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2878436]To illustrate the changes on Soi 6, a few years back, I was buying drinks for a bargirl. By the time we got to the third drink, she asked me if I was going to go upstairs with her. I said something non-committal, and she said "bye".

Today, a Soi 6 bargirl would rather drink all night than go to the room with a customer.

This may be unique to Soi 6, since doing ST all day really wears down the ladies. Bars in other areas don't have the same volume of horny customers, and many ladies go days without a customer fuck.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 bar girls have turned into drink sluts. There is such a high demand for girls to fill a bar that the bar owners have to pay a lot to the girls, either salary or commision, then the lady drinks earn a big LD commision too. It's gotten to the point that a girl has a good income just coming to work and being in the bar so she don't need to short time but can grab the next person that comes in.

If it does not turn around then Soi 6 will end up as another beer bar street as more of those who are looking to short time girls will be heading to Soi Honey / LK Metro / Soi Buakhao / Soi Pothole / Soi Boomerang.

Here's a summary of my first trip to Pattaya. I've been to Bangkok and many other places around the world so I'm not new to the hobby.

I've had my best fun with TF girls. Paid 2000-2500st each time. Had a total of 4 straight to my hotel. 3 were great, 1 was weird so I kicked out and just gave her 120 baht for the trouble.

Brief summary of the 4 TF girls.

1. Looks not as good as advertised, but decent enough and she was nice so it was good experience.

#2 and 3. Exactly as advertised. Great experience.

4. Very weird. Wouldn't let me see her naked without a towel. I was thinking she was a ladyboy. I managed to peak to verify she has a vagina LOL. She insisted we turn the lights off before doing anything. Super weird. She had a bad attitude saying she didn't want to talk. Only work. I decided to kick her out and just give her 120 baht. This was everything I had on me that wasn't in 1000 baht denomination. She started texting someone. I was hoping she wasn't calling her BF to start some drama. Luckily, it wasn't and she just left with the 120.

Other than TF. I went to a couple massage parlors and got Oil massage plus BJ for between 1800-2100.

I went to a BJ bar called Excite Club two nights. The first night, the only attractive girl was busy with another customer the whole time so I left without any action. The second night I got a BJ for total of 1810 (that includes money to girl (1300) plus money for drinks and a 300 fee to close the privacy curtain). The girl at Excite told me that most bars in Pattaya don't allow action in the bar and that you have to take the girl to a hotel. So I liked the convenience.

I went to another bar near Treetown and I bought the girl 1 drink and was trying to move things to some real action. I'm pretty sure she said "slowly" in her broken English, meaning "don't move so fast". Well I don't even drink alcohol and I have no desire to have hours of small talk so I left.

Another bar near Treetown I bought a girl 1 drink and one for her friend. I asked if I could barfine her. She said she was on her period. Was she telling the truth? Who knows.

I haven't been to Soi 6 at night yet. I'm still here one more night so I probably will tonight. I went there one day around 3 pm and talked to one girl and after buying her 1 drink. She told me fee to leave was 5000 barfine plus 3000 to her. Total 8000 baht which is insane to me. It's more than I pay at home. I didn't try at all to negotiate, not sure if I could have. Is this normal Soi 6 prices, or did she sense I was new to the Soi 6 scene?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2878433]The plan is short time rooms for the MM second floor (in the new section).

I don't use ST rooms often (I like to take the ladies home), but Club Fate has good ST rooms.

The best are on Soi 6 at the Red Point bar.[/QUOTE]Not true. Steven told me himself and he also stated in the video from everything Pattaya what is happening up there. More curtained areas. They installed 2 TVs up there already. Watch the video.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2878520]Soi 6 bar girls have turned into drink sluts. There is such a high demand for girls to fill a bar that the bar owners have to pay a lot to the girls, either salary or commision, then the lady drinks earn a big LD commision too. It's gotten to the point that a girl has a good income just coming to work and being in the bar so she don't need to short time but can grab the next person that comes in.

If it does not turn around then Soi 6 will end up as another beer bar street as more of those who are looking to short time girls will be heading to Soi Honey / LK Metro / Soi Buakhao / Soi Pothole / Soi Boomerang.[/QUOTE]I'm not as Gloomy as some of you are.

Soi 6 has never ever been known for Hit Girls, hence the low comparatively low Pricing for sex. Yes 2 k plus 400 is low. 1.5 k very attainable. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

As for drink only girls. Same problem arises. You have to be attractive to be bought a lot of drinks.

The rest they need to Claw and Scratch for everything they can get. This includes some Good Lookers. Few as they Are.

As for the masses moving to Buakhao. You still unattractive it doesn't matter where you go. To boot Buakhao is known for Cheap Old Folks.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878553]Not true. Steven told me himself and he also stated in the video from everything Pattaya what is happening up there. More curtained areas. They installed 2 TVs up there already. Watch the video.[/QUOTE]He's probably changed the plan again. The first plan was to have the pool table up there.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2878520]Soi 6 bar girls have turned into drink sluts. There is such a high demand for girls to fill a bar that the bar owners have to pay a lot to the girls, either salary or commision, then the lady drinks earn a big LD commision too. It's gotten to the point that a girl has a good income just coming to work and being in the bar so she don't need to short time but can grab the next person that comes in.

If it does not turn around then Soi 6 will end up as another beer bar street as more of those who are looking to short time girls will be heading to Soi Honey / LK Metro / Soi Buakhao / Soi Pothole / Soi Boomerang.[/QUOTE]I think you are completely wrong. All the bars on Soi 6 will not survive with people like you who walk in, order one drink and then do a ST. They will continue to get customers who will happily buy drinks, take the girls ST or LT. My suggestion to you is that if you can't afford to buy drinks or you don't want to buy drinks for the ladies, use Thai Friendly.

Do you think Soi 6 would even be there if they didn't sell lady drinks? Your thought process makes absolutely no sense. The bar makes almost nothing on the cost of the ST room and the girl keeps the whole fee. Therefore, the have to sell drinks. I myself have not seen any difference in soi 6 and I have been here for 14 years. It's just a matter of when it's slow, the girls will push for drinks to make their drink quota so their salary does not get deducted. The reason you think there is a change is because there are fewer customers this high season, so the customers that buy drinks are less. When there were more customers buying drinks, that allowed for the CC to go in and do a quick 1 drink and ST because the girl was not desperate to make her drink quota. This has been the same Soi 6 business model for model and mentality for years. The bar makes no money if they don't sell lady drinks. If the bar does not sell lady drinks, no ladies will go to work there. If the are no ladies, the bar closes. This is Pattaya bar 101. I am surprised you aren't in the know. I agree with you. Go to another soi, but wait, the same concept applies in all bars. Hmmmm. Stick to FLs then.

Went to Soi 6 tonight and had a great time.

Red Point Bar.

500 room fee + 1500st + 195 worth of drinks.

2195 baht total for a comfortable room and a good looking, friendly 20 yo girl. No rush, no clock watching.

As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. They offer nothing to me other than to collect some girls in the same location. They lost the advantage they had in the pre-smart phone days.

I will always be a 1-lady drink guy in the bars and if things aren't going to go how I want. I will leave.

And it has nothing to do with "being able to afford it."

BTW, the girls are drinking Fanta half the time anyway. So why go through the charade of buying drinks. The bars seem to be quite parasitic to the whole process, IMO.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878573]I think you are completely wrong. All the bars on Soi 6 will not survive with people like you who walk in, order one drink and then do a ST. They will continue to get customers who will happily buy drinks, take the girls ST or LT. My suggestion to you is that if you can't afford to buy drinks or you don't want to buy drinks for the ladies, use Thai Friendly.

Do you think Soi 6 would even be there if they didn't sell lady drinks? Your thought process makes absolutely no sense. The bar makes almost nothing on the cost of the ST room[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that it is better for them to shut down the short time rooms? I think they are in business to get money from whichever angle they can get it from. If that includes guys coming in to buy drinks, guys on the webcast buying drinks, guys taking chicks short time, or however else they can get money into the till. Personally I have never gone out to any bar whether normal or hooker with the intention of buying a bunch of drinks. I have always gone out to bars or discos with the intention of finding chicks. Hell, anyone can drink at home for much cheaper.

There is a reason guys complain after buying a bunch of drinks then finding out a chick is not going to fuck. They were not really there because they wanted to buy the drinks; they were there because that is where the pussy is. Nobody is going out to normal discos and just buying a bunch of drinks for chicks they have no intention of trying to fuck. On Soi 6 you know that you can fuck without the song and dance of buying drinks to try to butter a chick up or get her drunk enough to agree to fuck.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878588]As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. [/QUOTE]Buying a single LD is not being cheap at all. I think it's the norm. Personally, I will buy a 2nd drink to get more time to assess the girl (yes I'm slow) or come back another day. Cheap for me are guys who go to Soi 6 bars and all they try to do is get the Line ID's for girls, skipping paying for any drinks for themselves or the a girl or a barfine. Those are the low lives of Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Forty Drinks;2878461]Soi 6.

I'm pretty sure 60% of girls get less than 1 Barfine a month. And I'm being generous.[/QUOTE]

Those are the girls who just sit in a bar and wait for someone to ring a bell so they get a LD. Lots of those in LK Metro gogo bars too.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2878561]He's probably changed the plan again. The first plan was to have the pool table up there.[/QUOTE]I saw the 2 videos. First one when the work was far from finished had the pool table upstairs. Cannot imagine it was hauled up there unless that was its intended destination. Now it's downstairs and the second EP video does show couches with curtains. Don't understand why the owner of Catflaps (who also owns MMs) would not want to replicate and put rooms in MMs. Maybe just too little space. I like the ST rooms in Fate though those in High Rollers are a bit grim. But a room is better than a curtain in my opinion. That said, had one night in Heavens above when guys were at it in full view. So neither room nor curtain would have assisted!

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878532]Here's a summary of my first trip to Pattaya. I've been to Bangkok and many other places around the world so I'm not new to the hobby.

I've had my best fun with TF girls. Paid 2000-2500st each time. Had a total of 4 straight to my hotel. 3 were great, 1 was weird so I kicked out and just gave her 120 baht for the trouble.

Brief summary of the 4 TF girls.

1. Looks not as good as advertised, but decent enough and she was nice so it was good experience.

#2 and 3. Exactly as advertised. Great experience.

4. Very weird. Wouldn't let me see her naked without a towel. I was thinking she was a ladyboy. I managed to peak to verify she has a vagina LOL. She insisted we turn the lights off before doing anything. Super weird. She had a bad attitude saying she didn't want to talk. Only work. I decided to kick her out and just give her 120 baht. This was everything I had on me that wasn't in 1000 baht denomination. She started texting someone. I was hoping she wasn't calling her BF to start some drama. Luckily, it wasn't and she just left with the 120.

Other than TF. I went to a couple massage parlors and got Oil massage plus BJ for between 1800-2100.

I went to a BJ bar called Excite Club two nights. The first night, the only attractive girl was busy with another customer the whole time so I left without any action. The second night I got a BJ for total of 1810 (that includes money to girl (1300) plus money for drinks and a 300 fee to close the privacy curtain). The girl at Excite told me that most bars in Pattaya don't allow action in the bar and that you have to take the girl to a hotel. So I liked the convenience.[/QUOTE]Are we talking really hot 20 year olds form TF? I usually offer 1500 and they take it. I hope you are not paying 2000+ to 30+ year olds average looking girls.

Club excite near soi pothole? I was offered a BJ for 500 baht there. You girl must have been amazingly hot.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878588]Went to Soi 6 tonight and had a great time.

Red Point Bar.

500 room fee + 1500st + 195 worth of drinks.

2195 baht total for a comfortable room and a good looking, friendly 20 yo girl. No rush, no clock watching.

As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. They offer nothing to me other than to collect some girls in the same location. They lost the advantage they had in the pre-smart phone days.

I will always be a 1-lady drink guy in the bars and if things aren't going to go how I want. I will leave.

And it has nothing to do with "being able to afford it."

BTW, the girls are drinking Fanta half the time anyway. So why go through the charade of buying drinks. The bars seem to be quite parasitic to the whole process, IMO.[/QUOTE]At then end of the day, it's your money so spend it how you wish. No one is obligated to buy a set amount of drinks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878647]Buying a single LD is not being cheap at all. I think it's the norm. Personally, I will buy a 2nd drink to get more time to assess the girl (yes I'm slow) or come back another day. Cheap for me are guys who go to Soi 6 bars and all they try to do is get the Line ID's for girls, skipping paying for any drinks for themselves or the a girl or a barfine. Those are the low lives of Pattaya..[/QUOTE]Another commenter having problems with how other guys spend their money mongering. Not everyone needs to or wants to sit at a bar buying drinks and LDs to assess a lady and what not. Some guys just walk up to a lady they find attractive and get a vibe from, speak to her for a minute and take her upstairs.

Personally I don't drink, I don't care for the loud bar environment, therefore I do as mentioned. I guess that makes me a low life according to you. But the bar makes money on the room and the lady makes money on ST and I save money not having to sit at a bar buying soda. Win win win IMO. To each their own.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878532]Here's a summary of my first trip to Pattaya. I've been to Bangkok and many other places around the world so I'm not new to the hobby.

I've had my best fun with TF girls. Paid 2000-2500st each time. Had a total of 4 straight to my hotel. 3 were great, 1 was weird so I kicked out and just gave her 120 baht for the trouble.

Brief summary of the 4 TF girls.

1. Looks not as good as advertised, but decent enough and she was nice so it was good experience.

#2 and 3. Exactly as advertised. Great experience.

4. Very weird. Wouldn't let me see her naked without a towel. I was thinking she was a ladyboy. I managed to peak to verify she has a vagina LOL. She insisted we turn the lights off before doing anything. Super weird. She had a bad attitude saying she didn't want to talk. Only work. I decided to kick her out and just give her 120 baht. This was everything I had on me that wasn't in 1000 baht denomination. She started texting someone. I was hoping she wasn't calling her BF to start some drama. Luckily, it wasn't and she just left with the 120.[/QUOTE]Maybe you ran I to the Girl our Friend did a number on. The 40 drink Goddess.

So 4 nights into my latest Foray into Six Soi I declare it's the worst it's been since COVID reopening. Even hard to find a mildly attractive girl.

Strangest thing I ever saw. 1st thing I saw was Goodfellas 4 Husky Girls. Surprise- no customers. Probably lured by the Huge contract s. Not knowing to get the Money you need to produce income.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878588]Went to Soi 6 tonight and had a great time.


As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. They offer nothing to me other than to collect some girls in the same location. They lost the advantage they had in the pre-smart phone days.
[/QUOTE]I agree. Drinks should be a sales pitch from the girl to take her up. And should include tease and foreplay. Whats the point of sitting across an illiterate village girl while she sips (or gulps) sugar water? Thats why buying drinks in GCs and even some gogos like Kink and Windmill is fun. I buy lots of drinks in places where that includes foreplay with the girl. Otherwise, I don't see the point.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2878700]Another commenter having problems with how other guys spend their money mongering. Not everyone needs to or wants to sit at a bar buying drinks and LDs to assess a lady and what not. Some guys just walk up to a lady they find attractive and get a vibe from, speak to her for a minute and take her upstairs.[/QUOTE]I never said I have a problem with guys walking in to a Soi 6 bar, talking to a girl for a minute, then going upstairs. I never said you had to buy yourself a drink or a lady drink. The OP felt he was seen as cheap for ONLY buying 1 drink and I said he wasn't being cheap. If you don't buy a drink just don't come on here after a crap session saying how the girl was bad for the next few months. Now if you are able to assess how good a girl's performance is by talking to her for one minute you're a better man than I am. I'm pretty risk averse in wasting money on a bad session as I never feel the need to rush in to a selection.

My issue was with guys who walk up to Soi 6 girls and try to bypass every part of how a bar makes money. No drink for himself, no lady drink, only wants a girl's Line ID so he can skip paying a barfine, then if the girl Lines him he will try to negotiate for 700 baht with the girl. I don't think this is acceptable behavior. You don't have to agree with my opinion I'm ok with that.

I overpaid for an 18 hour tryst in the recent past with a lady who goes by the name of Wansini (Lemonk14 on TF). I have a feeling she may be a Muslim Thai lady. Yada yada yada.

Anyway, how it started was I was fecking around on TF 5-6 weeks back. And saw her. Loved her instantly and wanted her. Jokingly offered 10 k for long term. She had never responded to me before BUT that time, when she instantly said yes. Well, I was befuddled, but had to honor my deal. 10 k it was and what a glorious night of DATY, BBBJ and CFS it was. Over and over. Then she slept 14 hours or so. Boomed me again a few times and adios muchaches.

I have been back in Pattaya a week or so and was bored today so LINED said Wansini and asked about LT under my new cell NOS and Thai ID. 8 k she responded.

WTF. I can get other girls for 3 k LT.

Moral is. I ruined a market by overpaying in the 1st place for a nice piece of ass. But in the month since I've seen her she has put on the beef (4-5 kg seriously) and now wants a gods ransom.

Never overpay. My mistake. And YMMV.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2878619]So what you are saying is that it is better for them to shut down the short time rooms? I think they are in business to get money from whichever angle they can get it from. If that includes guys coming in to buy drinks, guys on the webcast buying drinks, guys taking chicks short time, or however else they can get money into the till. Personally I have never gone out to any bar whether normal or hooker with the intention of buying a bunch of drinks. I have always gone out to bars or discos with the intention of finding chicks. Hell, anyone can drink at home for much cheaper.

There is a reason guys complain after buying a bunch of drinks then finding out a chick is not going to fuck. They were not really there because they wanted to buy the drinks; they were there because that is where the pussy is. Nobody is going out to normal discos and just buying a bunch of drinks for chicks they have no intention of trying to fuck. On Soi 6 you know that you can fuck without the song and dance of buying drinks to try to butter a chick up or get her drunk enough to agree to fuck.[/QUOTE]Nope. I think my post was very clear. If all the soi 6 bars had 100% customers like you, they wouldn't be there and soi 6 would be gone in a flash. I look at Soi 6 as a place to go to drink, meet girls, and then fuck them. If any punter buys drinks and then is refused a bar fine, it's their own fault for not asking first if the girl will go.

All you guys are getting the wrong idea. Soi 6 bars are bars. They are open to sell drinks. That is their main source of revenue. If that revenue stream is gone, the bar won't survive. When other customers are buying drinks, that creates an opportunity for some guys to come in, buy 1 drink and do a ST. If the girls have made their drink quota or are close to it, they won't mind and won't push you to buy lady drinks. I think my previous post and this one are very clear. If you don't like being pressured to buy drinks, don't go to a "bar" LOL. Go to a massage place. A bar is a bar. It is your money and you can do what you want, but don't whine and complain when you go into a bar and get pressured to buy drinks. That's the same as walking into 7/11 and expecting to stand in the store all day enjoying the AC without making a purchase. If you don't want to buy drinks, don't buy them, but don't complain either. Stick to the FLs. Why is this Pattaya 101 logic and common sense not getting through to anyone in this group. Even some of the seniors don't get it. Alas.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878735]My issue was with guys who walk up to Soi 6 girls and try to bypass every part of how a bar makes money. No drink for himself, no lady drink, only wants a girl's Line ID so he can skip paying a barfine, then if the girl Lines him he will try to negotiate for 700 baht with the girl. I don't think this is acceptable behavior. You don't have to agree with my opinion I'm ok with that.[/QUOTE]I think most of the guys on here could not care less if a bar makes money or not and we all understand that. However, if you enjoy going to Soi 6 because of the sheer number of ladies there for hire, then remember that if the bars don't make money, they will close and selling drinks is their number 1 source of revenue. And not the 65 or 80 baht bottle of LEO either. The lady drinks.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2878732]I agree. Drinks should be a sales pitch from the girl to take her up. And should include tease and foreplay. Whats the point of sitting across an illiterate village girl while she sips (or gulps) sugar water? Thats why buying drinks in GCs and even some gogos like Kink and Windmill is fun. I buy lots of drinks in places where that includes foreplay with the girl. Otherwise, I don't see the point.[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878761]All you guys are getting the wrong idea. Soi 6 bars are bars. They are open to sell drinks. Why is this Pattaya 101 logic and common sense not getting through to anyone in this group. Even some of the seniors don't get it. Alas.[/QUOTE]Nope they are brothels first a lot of brothels there that also sell alcohol thanks to the nightwish group that changed most of the streets business model years back when they realized dudes would go to a brothel buy a bunch of drinks for chicks party and leave without having sex with them. Red point is a Thai owned bar that isn't really focus on buying drinks there more the old soi 6 so I think you are the one who has it wrong.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878761]All you guys are getting the wrong idea. Soi 6 bars are bars. They are open to sell drinks. That is their main source of revenue. If that revenue stream is gone, the bar won't survive. When other customers are buying drinks, that creates an opportunity for some guys to come in, buy 1 drink and do a ST. If the girls have made their drink quota or are close to it, they won't mind and won't push you to buy lady drinks. I think my previous post and this one are very clear. If you don't like being pressured to buy drinks, don't go to a "bar" LOL. Go to a massage place. A bar is a bar. It is your money and you can do what you want, but don't whine and complain when you go into a bar and get pressured to buy drinks. That's the same as walking into 7/11 and expecting to stand in the store all day enjoying the AC without making a purchase. If you don't want to buy drinks, don't buy them, but don't complain either. Stick to the FLs. Why is this Pattaya 101 logic and common sense not getting through to anyone in this group. Even some of the seniors don't get it. Alas.[/QUOTE]Spot on. However the problem is that BEFORE covid they made a good revenue easy and this year is a nightmare all over Pattaya. The increase in salaries all over Pattaya put everything out of balance.

So these days there is much more focus on drinks than before.

Precovid - Go to a bar, find a lady, buy a drink, boom boom and done.

Postcovid - Go to bar, find a lady, buying drinks, "sorry no boom boom".

This happens at Soi6 but also at Agogos. The rise of Koreans is nice but they actually make this worse. As I wrote before. Its not uncommon they barfine for "party" only so the guys going to Pattaya for sex find it much harder these days then before.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2878770]Spot on. However the problem is that BEFORE covid they made a good revenue easy and this year is a nightmare all over Pattaya. The increase in salaries all over Pattaya put everything out of balance.

So these days there is much more focus on drinks than before.

Precovid - Go to a bar, find a lady, buy a drink, boom boom and done.

Postcovid - Go to bar, find a lady, buying drinks, "sorry no boom boom".

This happens at Soi6 but also at Agogos. The rise of Koreans is nice but they actually make this worse. As I wrote before. Its not uncommon they barfine for "party" only so the guys going to Pattaya for sex find it much harder these days then before.[/QUOTE]As I said before, high season is not going according to plan. The girls have not made their drink quotas and now the girls are panicking. It's busy but there are still more ladies than required. Thats why they are pushing for drinks. Their salaries get reduced if they don't meet their drink quote. In Soi 6, salaries have always been dependent on how many drinks they get. This has not changed. Why guys complain about it is beyond me. It's like going into a car dealership and complaining about the sales person trying to sell you a car. it's like going into any shop and then complaining about them trying to sell you something. They can choose to go or not to go to Soi 6 or even bars in general. The best part about Pattaya is there is something for everyone in every budget range. The guys that don't want to buy lady drinks are the guys the always try to put the square peg in the round hole. It does not fit right. They should go with the Fls then or just keep their mouthes shut the fuck up and enjoy the quick ST on soi 6 at the expense of the guys that buy drinks whenever the girls allow.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878779]As I said before, high season is not going according to plan. The girls have not made their drink quotas and now the girls are panicking. It's busy but there are still more ladies than required. Thats why they are pushing for drinks. Their salaries get reduced if they don't meet their drink quote. In Soi 6, salaries have always been dependent on how many drinks they get. This has not changed. Why guys complain about it is beyond me. It's like going into a car dealership and complaining about the sales person trying to sell you a car. it's like going into any shop and then complaining about them trying to sell you something. They can choose to go or not to go to Soi 6 or even bars in general. The best part about Pattaya is there is something for everyone in every budget range. The guys that don't want to buy lady drinks are the guys the always try to put the square peg in the round hole. It does not fit right. They should go with the Fls then or just keep their mouthes shut the fuck up and enjoy the quick ST on soi 6 at the expense of the guys that buy drinks whenever the girls allow.[/QUOTE]There is a balance. No one has an issue buying drinks, being pestered for drinks non stop is another thing altogether.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2878619]There is a reason guys complain after buying a bunch of drinks then finding out a chick is not going to fuck. They were not really there because they wanted to buy the drinks; they were there because that is where the pussy is. Nobody is going out to normal discos and just buying a bunch of drinks for chicks they have no intention of trying to fuck. On Soi 6 you know that you can fuck without the song and dance of buying drinks to try to butter a chick up or get her drunk enough to agree to fuck.[/QUOTE]Exactly, huge issue at the moment. The assumption is that the women in these bars are available, but there are a ton of them floating about that are drinks only. At first I thought that maybe it was just a few girls who did not like the cut of my jib, but that's not the case there are drinks only girls in a lot of the bars now.

Who the fuck flies halfway across the word to drink in a shitty dive bar and talk broken pigeon English to a bar girl you can't fuck?

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2878770] Postcovid - Go to bar, find a lady, buying drinks, "sorry no boom boom".

This happens at Soi6 but also at Agogos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878760]Nope. I think my post was very clear. If all the soi 6 bars had 100% customers like you, they wouldn't be there and soi 6 would be gone in a flash. I look at Soi 6 as a place to go to drink, meet girls, and then fuck them. If any punter buys drinks and then is refused a bar fine, it's their own fault for not asking first if the girl will go.[/QUOTE]I stand by this opinion for any guy going to any bar in Pattaya. Before I even buy them 1 drink, I ask them if they are available for me to bar fine them. I make it clear that I want them to go with me. We may not talk about price , but I have never been refused a bar fine because of this.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878779]As I said before, high season is not going according to plan. The girls have not made their drink quotas and now the girls are panicking. It's busy but there are still more ladies than required. Thats why they are pushing for drinks. Their salaries get reduced if they don't meet their drink quote. In Soi 6, salaries have always been dependent on how many drinks they get. This has not changed. Why guys complain about it is beyond me. It's like going into a car dealership and complaining about the sales person trying to sell you a car. it's like going into any shop and then complaining about them trying to sell you something. They can choose to go or not to go to Soi 6 or even bars in general. The best part about Pattaya is there is something for everyone in every budget range. The guys that don't want to buy lady drinks are the guys the always try to put the square peg in the round hole. It does not fit right. They should go with the Fls then or just keep their mouthes shut the fuck up and enjoy the quick ST on soi 6 at the expense of the guys that buy drinks whenever the girls allow.[/QUOTE]Well the problem these days is girls not even looking for sex that much anymore (100TH for a drink in some agogos already! And a 20 K+ 10 day / tag). Before (as said) drinks was a way to get things started. Now for too many girls it is the END goal.

Combine this with the high spending Koreans who barfine for party only and you will see that the current business model is damaged.

You're right a lot of guys should avoid the bars for exactly the reason I just gave. And there you go. Less customers, less drinks, more pushy girls. And that already in a market that's 30% down since covid. Probably 1/3 of the bars need to go before things getting "better".

Less bars = Less need to increase salaries (decrease salaries?) = more customers per bar, more ladies per bar.

So of course guys complain! Your car dealership is a bit off. Its more like going to a cinema where they trying to sell you popcorn and soda without even telling you if they are showing a movie at all.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2878798] Your car dealership is a bit off. It's more like going to a cinema where they trying to sell you popcorn and soda without even telling you if they are showing a movie at all.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. Soi 6 is in the business of selling drinks. The girls are there to convince you to buy drinks. Thats how they get their salary. Let's use an example of the girl I know that just got fired from MOD bar. She worked two 10 day tags and was bar fined 3 times in each tag. MOD bar cut her lose because she never made her drink quota. End of story. The bar's business model is not the bar fine. Its the lady drinks and alcohol. The bar fine on Soi 6 is 2000 Bhat before midnight. Why? Because they need compensation for the girl not selling drinks. None of you guys will be happy to pay that right?

In summary, the car dealership is the perfect example. Guys go into a dealership where selling cars is the main business model and complain about the salesmen pushing them to buy a car. Guys go into Soi 6 and complain the girls are drink queens when the business model of the bar is to sell drinks.

Again, all these girls are showing the movie in Soi 6. However, if the girl does not like you, she won't let you bar fine her. I have never had a soi 6 girl refuse a bar fine ST with me, LT yes. But I asked up front before buying her a drink. So, your cinema analogy is not correct. They always show the movie. Just not always a double feature LOL.

Now, no offense again, but if you have ever gone into any bar in Pattaya and bought a bunch of lady drinks, its your fault if the girl would not let you bar fine her ST or LT. You should have asked. Why? What if the girl is on her period? It's common sense to ask. The problem is you think soi 6 is a brothel and it's the main business model. Its not. The bar is there for one reason and one reason alone. That is to sell drinks. Period end of story. The rest is just entertainment for us to keep coming back to buy drinks. It all leads to buying drinks.

If you want a no drink or few drink experience, see an FL or go to a soapy or something. In the meantime, and this is in no way directed at you, but again, if the guys don't want to buy lady drinks, don't buy them. But, don't complain about being pushed to buy them. And if the girl is ok for the guy to bar fine her without buying many drinks, the guy should shut the fuck up and stop complaining and thank god other punters are buying drinks so he can do a quick ST with the girl without buying drinks because she has made her drink quota already.


Now, let me ask you a question. Why do you think Soi 6 has a main business model of being a brothel where selling sex is the main source of revenue? What are you referring to as the 'movie"? Sex right?

Don't be stupid. Ask her first if she is ok to go with you ST or LT. If she says "Yes" then relax and buy a few drinks and take it from there.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]

In summary, the car dealership is the perfect example. Guys go into a dealership where selling cars is the main business model and complain about the salesmen pushing them to buy a car. Guys go into Soi 6 and complain the girls are drink queens when the business model of the bar is to sell drinks.
[/QUOTE]I compare to movies (because cinemas actually make money on the popcorn / sodas and not that much in the movie itself). Aka. Bars make money on drinks, however that's not the main reason customers go to bars in soi6/ WS. 99% of the guys in Soi6 don't give a * about their business model. They go there for pussy. Thats the reputation. That's the reason soi6 exist in the first place. If its was just "because those bars sell drinks". .

You are 100% right that selling drinks is the business model. But that's not the reason those bars exist. And more and more bars are getting out of touch with the factor why they exist in the first place.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]

Again, all these girls are showing the movie in Soi 6. However, if the girl does not like you, she won't let you bar fine her. I have never had a soi 6 girl refuse a bar fine ST with me, LT yes. But I asked up front before buying her a drink.

[/QUOTE]Exactly. This is the norm NOW. Ask about ST / LT before buying a drink or tell her to piss off.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]
If you want a no drink or few drink experience, see an FL or go to a soapy or something. In the meantime, and this is in no way directed at you, but again, if the guys don't want to buy lady drinks, don't buy them. But, don't complain about being pushed to buy them.
[/QUOTE]I know its not directed at me! And for others its good to read this conversation. We show an example how people can discuss without making it personal. Good job mate!

Problem is girls are a lot more pushy for drinks then before and that has a negative impact on the overall experience.

The lack of customers is being compensated by bars with higher drinkprices (LD), "VIP Packages" because it fits indeed their business model but NOT the interest of their customer base. So more guys go to TF and all. What makes the situation for bars even worse (because frankly they can't switch their business model. Prostitution is still not exactly legal).

We do agree on the outcome (don't buy a drink of a girl don't ST / LT). We just look at it from another perspective (bar vs customers).

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]
Now, let me ask you a question. Why do you think Soi 6 has a main business model of being a brothel where selling sex is the main source of revenue? What are you referring to as the 'movie"? Sex right?

Don't be stupid. Ask her first if she is ok to go with you ST or LT. If she says "Yes" then relax and buy a few drinks and take it from there.[/QUOTE]I hear what you are saying and you are right as said. Bars make money from DRINKS. However everyone knows most people go to Pattaya for sex. Nothing else. It's the prostitution capital of the world for a reason.

Keep in mind the business model of a bar is drinks for a very simple reason. It's illegal to operate as a brothel. It's already a grey area to "require" x amount of barfines.

And yeah. These days every customer should ask if a lady does ST / LT or not. BEFORE offering a drink.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2878843]99% of the guys in Soi6 don't give a * about their business model. They go there for pussy. Thats the reputation. That's the reason soi6 exist in the first place. If its was just "because those bars sell drinks".

You are 100% right that selling drinks is the business model. But that's not the reason those bars exist. And more and more bars are getting out of touch with the factor why they exist in the first place.

Exactly. This is the norm NOW. Ask about ST / LT before buying a drink or tell her to piss off.

I know it's not directed at me! And for others it's good to read this conversation. We show an example how people can discuss without making it personal. Good job mate![/QUOTE]Yes the drinks are the price we pay for being able to go to a bar like this and have a lot choices on who to go with and fuck. I don't mind this at all. In fact, it's replacing the clubs on WS I used to go to. Instead of buying a bottle or two in a club, I buy drinks in a bar or go go. The club scene is a once in a blue moon thing for me now. Do I miss it? Dam straight. Last time in Republic, I met one of the hottest girls ever. But, I am in my 50's now and I am less and less interested in that scene and more interested in smoking my cigar, drinking a whisky and having a hottie on my lap in soi 6 or a gents club.

Correct. Always ask if the lady is available before committing to spending time with her in the bar.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. This forum is a place to exchange ideas and share info, not to berate others for their views and ideas though. The ones that get that, will get the most value out of the forum. They may not agree with a post, but almost for sure, they will learn a few things while reading.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878764]I think most of the guys on here could not care less if a bar makes money or not and we all understand that. However, if you enjoy going to Soi 6 because of the sheer number of ladies there for hire, then remember that if the bars don't make money, they will close and selling drinks is their number 1 source of revenue. And not the 65 or 80 baht bottle of LEO either. The lady drinks.[/QUOTE]Indeed, the majority of us could care less if a bar makes money. And if Soi 6 closed, other bars would open to takes its place. Bars / GCs are constantly opening and closing, so who cares if Soi 6 was no more? My job as a monger is to get the best value I can for my mongering experiences. The bars viability and operability are not my concern. In that vain, 80 percent of my mongering is TF anyways. We all have our preferences. I know some guys hate TF and prefer picking up ladies from bars. To each their own.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878588]Went to Soi 6 tonight and had a great time.

Red Point Bar.

500 room fee + 1500st + 195 worth of drinks.

2195 baht total for a comfortable room and a good looking, friendly 20 yo girl. No rush, no clock watching.

As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. They offer nothing to me other than to collect some girls in the same location. They lost the advantage they had in the pre-smart phone days.

I will always be a 1-lady drink guy in the bars and if things aren't going to go how I want. I will leave.

And it has nothing to do with "being able to afford it."

BTW, the girls are drinking Fanta half the time anyway. So why go through the charade of buying drinks. The bars seem to be quite parasitic to the whole process, IMO.[/QUOTE]Is RedPoint the one near the Cooters or Scooters end, across from the Slice Pizza place, that the girls sit outside on stools in dresses? If it is, then I thought that always operated as a brothel or BJ bar. Since 2011, I've taken only ONE girl from there and that was in 2011, my first trip ever to Pattaya. My eyes were still focusing on what exactly was Thai beauty. It was 1000 baht and 350 for the room, no drinks necessary. Since then, none of the girls tickle my fancy when I walked by that bar. And I still thought it was still only 1000 baht and room charge until your post. Soi 6 acting like they are the new Walking Street. I suggest guys tackle more of the Fiwfans network in Pattaya. You can narrow your selection to Chonburi and Banglamung. That way it will encourage more of the authentic Thai girls to come work Pattaya from BKK. Fuck the bars, when everything is online and Fiwfans. I used to piss off girls in Bangkok GoGos and bars like Thermae by showing the Fiwfans site and then showing guys around me who didn't know about it. Only 1300 for a better looking girl than what was in front of us. This is how the johns battle back and set the market for pootang. Still on my trip, paid no more than 2000 for the prime pussy under 25 years old, mostly 1500. So all this price increases really don't affect those who have upped their own game and knowledge. It just screws over the tourists and those who don't know where else to look. I can tell you from a personal experience that if you are able to link up with younger Thai guys as buddies, they will show you a P4P local market that is much more fun and cheaper than all this mess. I learned about these girls when I hung out at 35 Dara Show just outside of BKK. The girls are 5 X better looking than what is left over for the tourists. They can take their drinks quota and shove it up their loose asses. Yes even bar managers and owners as well and those who try to promote on forums as well.

Anyone see the girls Desire have downstairs?

Can't get any worse. Hahaha. No 40 drink girls there.

Business Model Schmodel. . don't matter if your Girls lac looks. Goodfellas as usual No customers.

Old not the best looking guy inquired about short time with an ok girl. She raised the 2 finger salute, 2,000.

I inquire she said 49 drinks. 😂. No like. For those in Rio Linda. Me young and Hansum got the No Mas treatment.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2878732]I agree. Drinks should be a sales pitch from the girl to take her up. And should include tease and foreplay. Whats the point of sitting across an illiterate village girl while she sips (or gulps) sugar water? Thats why buying drinks in GCs and even some gogos like Kink and Windmill is fun. I buy lots of drinks in places where that includes foreplay with the girl. Otherwise, I don't see the point.[/QUOTE]For me Pattaya is not Drinks town it is Boom Boom town. I don't care much what the girl does during drinking as long as its followed by FS afterwards. No Boom Boom no drinkee.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878764]I think most of the guys on here could not care less if a bar makes money or not and we all understand that. However, if you enjoy going to Soi 6 because of the sheer number of ladies there for hire, then remember that if the bars don't make money, they will close and selling drinks is their number 1 source of revenue.[/QUOTE]That is the beauty of Pattaya. No matter how many times a bar closes, someone else comes right along and opens another one in that same spot. I guess they think the last guy just wasn't doing it right. As they say, to make a small fortune, start with a large one.

Go to bar, ask a girl you fancy if she does ST. If she does, buy a drink and a LD. 2-3 LDs, then go upstairs.

How hard is it to ask a lady if she does ST before buying drinks? I'm the exact opposite of a social butterfly myself, and really don't like the kind of atmosphere inside clubs, when when you're going into a bar for a girl, it is a business transaction and should be treated as such.

Unless you are only there for drinks, and drinks only, you need to ask if they boom boom before you open your wallet, if that's what you are wanting.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]I beg to differ. Soi 6 is in the business of selling drinks. The girls are there to convince you to buy drinks. Thats how they get their salary.[/QUOTE]There seems to be a communication problem. How the girls get their salary is between them and the owner. The customer has shit to do with that. As a customer I am not patroning a business to make sure the workers are able to get their salary. I am going for the product or service that I am interested in. Not my problem if the owner promised some chick 10,000 baht if she sells 50 drinks and negative 1000 baht if she does not. I was not there for those contract negotiations and neither do I care. That is between them. Hell, you (not you per se, but in general guys) would not even know if you were not so nosey. I am there to get what I came there to get, not to make sure the girl has a good paycheck and the owner has enough money coming in to stay in business. Nobody walks into McDonald's worried about if the staff is paid by the hour or per Big Mac sold. Why should they do it at bars?

If they want me there buying drinks instead of pussy, then take the pussy away and I will not come there trying to buy pussy. That is like McDonald's selling Big Macs and salads, but you telling a vegetarian not to go if they only want a salad because they make most of their money from Big Macs. So you are saying the salad should only be available to you if you are buying a Big Mac too? Never had a problem going to one of these places and the owner telling me that I could not buy pussy if I did not buy a bunch of drinks to go with it. I have had some girls try that bullshit, but never an owner. Owners know every drop in the bucket counts toward their bottom line. Chicks only care about the money they stand to get or lose due to the contract they agreed to (which ain't my business!

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2878830]In summary, the car dealership is the perfect example. Guys go into a dealership where selling cars is the main business model and complain about the salesmen pushing them to buy a car.[/QUOTE]Actually it is not. The stealership makes their money off of selling you the parts and labor for jacked up prices. You can talk them into selling you the car for very little above the price they pay for it. The salesman pushes the car because that is how he makes HIS money. But that is not my concern. I am there to get the car for the cheapest they will sell it to me for.

Case in point, I was at the mall the other day trying to buy an incense holder. The price on the sticker was $6. I asked the salesperson for a discount. I do not know whether she works off commission or salary or how she gets paid. I do not care. I want the product for as cheap as I can get it for. She said sure and called the owner on the phone. The owner said $5. I said tell her $4. The owner agreed to the $4 and the girl hung up the phone and I left with what I came there for. That owner knew that $4 was better than $0, same as those Soi 6 bar owners know that you taking a girl and paying 400 baht for the short time room is better than 0 baht.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2878786]There is a balance. No one has an issue buying drinks, being pestered for drinks non stop is another thing altogether.[/QUOTE]I would never sit in any bar that pestered me for drinks. Don't see why anyone would. If it happens come on this board and post the name of the bar that did this.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878956]I would never sit in any bar that pestered me for drinks. Don't see why anyone would. If it happens come on this board and post the name of the bar that did this.[/QUOTE]Pestering is their job. Refusing or getting out of there is your prerogative. I do not blame them. It is the nature of their business. Just like shopkeepers who do the same.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2878855]Indeed, the majority of us could care less if a bar makes money. And if Soi 6 closed, other bars would open to takes its place. Bars / GCs are constantly opening and closing, so who cares if Soi 6 was no more? My job as a monger is to get the best value I can for my mongering experiences. The bars viability and operability are not my concern. In that vain, 80 percent of my mongering is TF anyways. We all have our preferences. I know some guys hate TF and prefer picking up ladies from bars. To each their own.[/QUOTE]Amen. I don't recall getting any business help from Soi 6 bar owners when I was busto. Now that I'm robusto who cares about bar owners.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878956]I would never sit in any bar that pestered me for drinks. Don't see why anyone would. If it happens come on this board and post the name of the bar that did this.[/QUOTE]This happened to me at Babylon Paradise Lounge on 3rd road, I reported it at the time a few months prior.

Not only was I pestered for drinks, the girl I chose to lounge with and bought a drink for barely stayed with me for a few minutes before spotting one of her regulars and trying to have me take another girl to so she could switch to her regular. I ended up leaving right there and letting the female bar lady in charge know about what happened, not that she cared. It's experiences like these that make me reluctant to do the bar / gc thing too much and instead just stick to TF and simply approaching ladies during the day as I am out and about.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2878588]Went to Soi 6 tonight and had a great time.

Red Point Bar.

500 room fee + 1500st + 195 worth of drinks.

2195 baht total for a comfortable room and a good looking, friendly 20 yo girl. No rush, no clock watching.

As far as being "cheap" and being a "one drink guy" well I think the bars need to offer more if they want more money. They offer nothing to me other than to collect some girls in the same location. They lost the advantage they had in the pre-smart phone days.

I will always be a 1-lady drink guy in the bars and if things aren't going to go how I want. I will leave.

And it has nothing to do with "being able to afford it."

BTW, the girls are drinking Fanta half the time anyway. So why go through the charade of buying drinks. The bars seem to be quite parasitic to the whole process, IMO.[/QUOTE]Agree. Buying one drink for lets say the interviewing process. But. Why wasting time & money on drinks sitting with girls who barely speak English anyway?

Soi6 is not really my thing but couple of years ago I visited Red point bar just asked the girls sitting outside which one does anal and took one upstairs.

No drinks no crap conversations, just agreed on price (I think it was 800+room) and went to the room.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878956]I would never sit in any bar that pestered me for drinks. Don't see why anyone would. If it happens come on this board and post the name of the bar that did this.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more, but it is more nuanced for me. There is one GC in Pattaya (LE Poste) that I really wanted to like. It has a reputation for decent girls and is open in the afternoon before the street action gets going. I had barely cleared the entry and could not see much because of coming in out of the sunshine and I was ushered to the bar and asked for a lady drink. Long story shorter, I asked to be allowed for my eyes to adjust, a minute to relax and sip my beer and sent the lady away. About 30 seconds later the next girl just walked up and asked me to buy her a drink. I politely declined and told her she was not the type I was looking for. I sent 4 girls away in less than 5 minutes and finally asked the mama / manager if I could get a few minutes to look around and enjoy one beer before being asked again. She said "sure" and of course about a minute later here comes another lady. I politely told her no, stood up and told the mama she had lost a potential good customer and more than a few drinks and ST from me all because she didn't respect my request and walked out. Never is a long time, but I do not plan on darkening that doorstep anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2878979]Amen. I don't recall getting any business help from Soi 6 bar owners when I was busto. Now that I'm robusto who cares about bar owners.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I'm supposed to believe some thinly-disguised wannabe pimps are some charity case? Hilarious.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2879020]I couldn't agree more, but it is more nuanced for me. There is one GC in Pattaya (LE Poste) that I really wanted to like. It has a reputation for decent girls and is open in the afternoon before the street action gets going. I had barely cleared the entry and could not see much because of coming in out of the sunshine and I was ushered to the bar and asked for a lady drink. Long story shorter, I asked to be allowed for my eyes to adjust, a minute to relax and sip my beer and sent the lady away. About 30 seconds later the next girl just walked up and asked me to buy her a drink. I politely declined and told her she was not the type I was looking for. I sent 4 girls away in less than 5 minutes and finally asked the mama / manager if I could get a few minutes to look around and enjoy one beer before being asked again. She said "sure" and of course about a minute later here comes another lady. I politely told her no, stood up and told the mama she had lost a potential good customer and more than a few drinks and ST from me all because she didn't respect my request and walked out. Never is a long time, but I do not plan on darkening that doorstep anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Really, too many girls keep approaching you wanting to fuck, and that bothers you. I am sure you have exactly the same issue back in your home country.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2879004]Agree. Buying one drink for lets say the interviewing process. But. Why wasting time & money on drinks sitting with girls who barely speak English anyway?

Soi6 is not really my thing but couple of years ago I visited Red point bar just asked the girls sitting outside which one does anal and took one upstairs.

No drinks no crap conversations, just agreed on price (I think it was 800+room) and went to the room.[/QUOTE]Hanging out with the girls can be a blast if you find the ones that want to laugh and have a good time. And that's not too hard. After 20 years here, whenever I don't have anything to do one option is heading down to Soi 6, get drunk and mess around with the babes before going up stairs. By the way, they love playing games like (4 in a row) and they love gambling on it. If you hear someplace that just went crazy laud for no reason, there is a good chance one of them either won or lost something. I was down there last week and a girl at the bar I was at hit the lottery for 20,000 and the place exploded. Then she starting buying drinks for everybody, and I am almost positive she was broke by the end of the night. By the way, I don't hang out with them because they are the smartest people in the world.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2879020]I couldn't agree more, but it is more nuanced for me. There is one GC in Pattaya (LE Poste) that I really wanted to like. It has a reputation for decent girls and is open in the afternoon before the street action gets going. I had barely cleared the entry and could not see much because of coming in out of the sunshine and I was ushered to the bar and asked for a lady drink. Long story shorter, I asked to be allowed for my eyes to adjust, a minute to relax and sip my beer and sent the lady away. About 30 seconds later the next girl just walked up and asked me to buy her a drink. I politely declined and told her she was not the type I was looking for. I sent 4 girls away in less than 5 minutes and finally asked the mama / manager if I could get a few minutes to look around and enjoy one beer before being asked again. She said "sure" and of course about a minute later here comes another lady. I politely told her no, stood up and told the mama she had lost a potential good customer and more than a few drinks and ST from me all because she didn't respect my request and walked out. Never is a long time, but I do not plan on darkening that doorstep anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

I am the same as you in a sense that when I first enter the bar, I want a few minutes to get the lay of the land. I just pull my phone out, put my head down and drink. In Cat Flaps, I even had girls sit down beside me during this exercise. I just said hi and my head went back down to my phone. One time, the girl sat thaere beside me for 15 minutes with me ignoring her. Finally she got the hint and left. After about 20-30 minutes, I decided who I wanted and then the party began. Don't be so serious. You may have had a good time if you had of just ignored them at first. I myself have no qualms about ignoring them.

Now about this bar, I have been in there several times and the routine that you described is the same routine as I witnessed. Actually what I did here was just banter back and forth with whoever it was that came over, felt up her ass and tits a little and then sent the ones away I didn't like. Then when a liked one, I invited her to drink. In this place you can do this kind of a test drive lol. Really you were just being too serious. Relax more in Pattaya. I don't know why some guys walk into a bar and immediately get their guard up for these kinds of things. They already have the reply on the tip of their tongues and blurt it out before the girl can even finish their sentence. If Pattaya puts that much stress on a guy, it's really not the place for them to be. Do what I do. Either ignore them or have a little fun. No need to be so uptight. Just my opinion and nothing personal mate. Finally, the manager and the girls could care less if they lost you as a customer. That I will tell you right now. Unless you are a regular who spends thousands there weekly, they could give two shits about you.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami;2879028] People will complain about anything. Really, too many girls keep approaching you wanting to fuck, and that bothers you. I am sure you have exactly the same issue back in your home country.[/QUOTE]

Trevor from Buzzin Lounge has the same attitude as you. He forces his girls to stay away from the customers until they are called over. Guess what? Customers complained that the girls would not approach them lol. Go figure. Bill is onto something here I think.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2878787]Exactly, huge issue at the moment. The assumption is that the women in these bars are available, but there are a ton of them floating about that are drinks only. At first I thought that maybe it was just a few girls who did not like the cut of my jib, but that's not the case there are drinks only girls in a lot of the bars now.

Who the fuck flies halfway across the word to drink in a shitty dive bar and talk broken pigeon English to a bar girl you can't fuck?[/QUOTE]Honestly, I used to think the same as you. However, it's not the case. That's what they might tell you, but I know it's just an excuse. In gents clubs, they would not be hired under those circumstances and the same on soi 6. Soi 6 girls are told they have to allow ST. They may refuse LT though. In the go go bars there are plenty of girls that say that they are drinks only. Anyways, I still think it's just an excuse. Why? Let me tell you a story. About 2 months ago I was in Co Co on walking street. I asked one lady over and bought her one drink. During our conversation I found out what every monger should find out in the first few minutes that she only works for drinks. I said no problem and called over another lady who was quite happy to drink with me and agreed to being bar fined. Now, after 2 hours and many drinks later, the first girl comes back and sits down beside me when my girl had left for the toilet. She says she really likes me and wants to go with me now. Even tells me how she will suck my cock so goooood. I said "What changed your mind"? She tells me that she only goes with Asians because they are polite, don't talk too much, and they are generous. She said she witnessed me being "Jai dee" which means kind in Thai and wanted to go with me now.

So, there you have it. 9/10 times when a Pattaya bar girls tells you she only works for drinks, it's because of a reason like this. They all go, believe me. Just maybe not with everyone.

A common scam, if you have social media contacts for the ladies:

I went with a lady a few times, but then she got a sponsor and went home to Isaan.

This week, she messaged me to say she was coming back to work in Pattaya, and needed a contact at a bar (which I gave her).

Today, I made the mistake of asking her when she was coming. Of course, she responded that she needed money to come to Pattaya.

The reality:

1) If you send messages to a bargirl, its only a matter of time before she asks for money. Even if you mostly just responding to your messages.

2) the scam is that ladies in Isaan ask many men for money under the pretext they are coming to Pattaya, but usually they want to continue living in their village with their Thai boyfriend, and maybe need cash to buy him gold.

Never send money to a lady living in Isaan.

Funny stuff.

As I was ordering my Pattaya Big Mc meal it did cross my mind how much the Employees were making.

I needed to know their business model.

Especially now that they are charging 10 baht to use bathroom.

No offense but hearing about business angle of Soi 6 bars from a guy who bought 40 drinks and self banned himself for 6 months is hysterically funny.

Concerning "drinks only" ladies. What's up with that?

Some ladies indeed make so much baht from drinks that they don't want to leave the bar.

Some ladies have sponsors, who let them work bar if they promise not to go with customers. However, such ladies may go if they are convinced you don't know their sponsor (s).

Some ladies have Thai boyfriends who they tell they are drinks only. They may go with a customer if they are sure their boyfriend won't find out. Sometimes the boyfriend will be playing pool in a bar across the street. If he isn't there, the lady can go with you.

Of course, money trumps all such issues, pay them enough and they will go. That's the Korean approach.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879037]In this place you can do this kind of a test drive lol. Really you were just being too serious. Relax more in Pattaya. I don't know why some guys walk into a bar and immediately get their guard up for these kinds of things. They already have the reply on the tip of their tongues and blurt it out before the girl can even finish their sentence. If Pattaya puts that much stress on a guy, it's really not the place for them to be. Do what I do. Either ignore them or have a little fun. No need to be so uptight. Just my opinion and nothing personal mate. Finally, the manager and the girls could care less if they lost you as a customer. That I will tell you right now. Unless you are a regular who spends thousands there weekly, they could give two shits about you.


[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. My post may have come across as being "heavy handed", and it was not intended that way. Trust me I am under NO illusion that any girl or owner really gives a shit whether I stay or leave. I am just one more of a long line of swinging dicks to enter and give them an opportunity to relieve me of as many Baht as I am willing to hand over. LOL.

I am not a hard ass at all, and I was more than cordial when I told the ladies I was not interested in buying a drink for them at that moment. I will admit that I actually dislike telling the girls "NO" for about reasonable request, and maybe I just need to grow a set and tell them "NO" in a kind way and not let their process ruin my mood. Maybe I would have had a great time there, I know I was looking forward to visiting. I'll try to remember your comments the next time I find myself in a similar situation. It will make me smile and see if another approach works better! TIA.

[QUOTE=BillMiami;2879028]Really, too many girls keep approaching you wanting to fuck, and that bothers you. I am sure you have exactly the same issue back in your home country.[/QUOTE]Its LE POSTE. Trust me most girls you wouldn't touch with a stick.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2879068]Thanks for the reply. My post may have come across as being "heavy handed", and it was not intended that way. Trust me I am under NO illusion that any girl or owner really gives a shit whether I stay or leave. I am just one more of a long line of swinging dicks to enter and give them an opportunity to relieve me of as many Baht as I am willing to hand over. LOL.

I am not a hard ass at all, and I was more than cordial when I told the ladies I was not interested in buying a drink for them at that moment. I will admit that I actually dislike telling the girls "NO" for about reasonable request, and maybe I just need to grow a set and tell them "NO" in a kind way and not let their process ruin my mood. Maybe I would have had a great time there, I know I was looking forward to visiting. I'll try to remember your comments the next time I find myself in a similar situation. It will make me smile and see if another approach works better! TIA.[/QUOTE]Next time start groping them and feeling their ass. Take a free test drive LOL.

I have been in Pattaya for about a week so far. It has been a letdown. That being said, I'm very much an introvert and I do not approach mongering the typical way that seems to work for everyone else that mongers here. This is also not my first trip here, so I do not believe it's just newbie's folly.

Anyway, expanding on things a bit, I exclusively do my mongering through TF and dating apps like Tinder, Badoo, Omi, etc. I have also networked a little bit this trip via friends of friends and friends of extended family. I am not big into the bar scene at all; I have not bar fined a single girl this trip.

Prices: Most I have spent so far is 3000ST. Outside of one 2500ST and one 3000ST, the range for ST has been 1000-2000, with the overwhelming majority of girls being paid 1500. I initially offered 1500ST right off the bat, but I then started to ask what a girl wanted for ST and was pleasantly surprised getting offers lower than 1500. For these lower offers I'd counter 1500 with the caveat that a facial or cum in mouth was necessary.

Experiences: I have been fucking about 2-3 women a day for the past week. Sunday was an exception as it was the day of rest, so I naturally only bedded 1 girl. I do not have the time or patience to recount every fuck, but I will recount a few and summarize my thoughts.

22 year old spinner off of TF: Profile picture showed a petite and pale woman in a sexy bikini. Checked all my boxes so I sent her the script. I asked her how much ST, and she countered with how much would I pay her? Smart girl. I offered 2500ST if I could facial her and have her clean up the rest with her mouth. She accepted quickly. I must've offered over what she was expecting. She comes over and is a petite and sexy-shaped girl, but she has facial acne and is very tan. Not a newbie and I'm well aware of the filter prowess amongst the girls, so I really should have expected this, but I was still a bit disappointed. She showers and we get in bed. And she just lays there giggling. Then several minutes more giggling and giggling about how she is just freelancing because she needs money for her room. I ask her about her picture looking like she's clearly in a bar, but she shakes her head and says "no like bar, no like work bar". I nod, ok honey, and move her to my cock. She performs a very lackluster blowjob. I pull her off and position her for doggy. Start fucking her for a bit. Haven't cum yet and she's starts the "oh, baby, cum" script. I flip her over and have her missionary. She starts fake moaning and it's quite the mood-killer. I'm a bit annoyed at this point and just pretend I've finished. Hand her the money and she's off to take a shower. Except she takes a good 15 minutes in the bathroom just using her phone. Tell her hey, old brother has to sleep and you got to go, babe. She giggles and showers in like a minute. She dresses and is like I go bar now. I stupidly ask her "I thought you didn't work at a bar"? She says no, just work tomboy bar and shows me Tiktoks about the tomboy bar. She shows me a picture of a tomboy that had the surgery to remove her breasts. Riveting stuff. Try to politely get her to leave, but she's still showing me pictures of the tomboy bar. She can't read the room or just doesn't care, so I just flat out tell her ok, honey, you have to go now. I have to sleep. She smiles and starts to leave before asking if she could grab one of my condoms to-go. Decline politely. Old brother has some use for those later. Very disappointing experience and I needed to try again before the night was over. 3/10 experience.

Same night African escort: After the 22-year old dud, I needed to pop off before I passed out. Found a curvy African woman on TF. Tell her 1500 right now ST. She says ok but you pay me 2000. In line with the reputation of African freelancers and in line with how personal negotiations with them have gone in the past. I tell her okay, but for 2000 you are getting facialed, baby. She confirms. She gets to my apartment 20 ish minutes later. Security guy gives me a surprised and amused look when the African broad gives her ID. Give him a 100 baht tip and tell him it's okay, brother. He's suddenly a good friend and ushers me in front of the Russians waiting for the elevator ahead of me. African girl clearly inebriated and is all the place. Taking a Tiktok in the elevator and I'm frantically trying to get out of the way of the camera. We get into the room and she dives at my pants and has my cock in her mouth less than a minute into the room. My kind of girl. She goes through the full sequence. Slow and tantalizing, fast and porn-star like, hand and tongue action. Tell her it's time to fuck. She says okay, I want you to fuck me doggystyle, baby. I oblige. Fucking phenomenal ass. Something you rarely see with Thai women. After a bit of time, I'm ready to finish and I pull her in and facial her. She makes sure to clean up with her mouth. Fucking phenomenal. Best session so far this trip. Tells me to save her number and get in touch if I ever feel horny. I might have to hit her up considering how most of these sessions with Thai girls have gone, but I am doing my best to not repeat with any of these broads. 9/10 experience.

Several other sessions, but I don't really feel like typing them up at the moment. Might come back to post more after the trip is over. I don't know why, but overall, the sessions with Thais this time around have been very disappointing. I am not sure if I am coming back to Pattaya for a while. I am thinking next trip may be somewhere in Africa. Not sure. Still have another week here, so I may change my mind on Pattaya yet again.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2879099]

Experiences: I have been fucking about 2-3 women a day for the past week. Sunday was an exception as it was the day of rest, so I naturally only bedded 1 girl. I do not have the time or patience to recount every fuck.[/QUOTE]Other than you being let down by a girl you built up in your mind as a stunner and hiring an African chick, which I would never do, I think you are doing pretty good for yourself. In my humble opinion, I think you seem to be missing that rapport building thing you get from the little bit of time spent with a bar girl before the bar fine. Might I suggest a gents club? I think it will tick all your boxes.

1. Time to build a little rapport with the girl over a drink or 2.

2. For ST, no bar fine, just a small room charge.

3. You can view the line up and interview a few choices before making your selection.

4 laid back atmosphere as they cater to mostly expats.

TF is really a delivery service and that's it. You can't always make the right choice with photos.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2879078]Its LE POSTE. Trust me most girls you wouldn't touch with a stick.[/QUOTE]There were a couple of nice ones there, but that was 6-8 months ago. I have no been back since. Here are some photos. It's not the worst line up I have seen. One of these ladies took care of me real well on multiple occasions.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2878979]Amen. I don't recall getting any business help from Soi 6 bar owners when I was busto. Now that I'm robusto who cares about bar owners.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this point. I am just saying that guys should not get so upset when they walk into a bar and get pressured to buy drinks. That's all. Buy or don't buy. It's up to you.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2879099]

Several other sessions, but I don't really feel like typing them up at the moment. Might come back to post more after the trip is over. I don't know why, but overall, the sessions with Thais this time around have been very disappointing. I am not sure if I am coming back to Pattaya for a while. I am thinking next trip may be somewhere in Africa. Not sure. Still have another week here, so I may change my mind on Pattaya yet again.[/QUOTE]Yes mate you will like the scene in Africa. Go to Kampala and have amazing girls for a fraction of the price you pay in Thailand. Just before covid I was paying the equivalent of 400-800 baht. Or Mombasa if you like spending daytime on beach. At the moment the local currency is very weak so you will get a good bang for your buck for sure. Downside is hotels in Africa at leat double the cost compared to Thailand. Best looking girls are in Gambia IMHO but the scene is very small. But worth checking out.

Korean s and Buakhao takeover.

Don't worry it ain't happening anytime soon. Sexpat avg age is 75. Girls that cater to that demographic are not Ravishing in any way.

Korean s takeover of Soi 6.

I don't see it. Cola is 70 baht. Room fee is 400 baht. 3 k only to top girls. Rest are 2,000 and below, some way below.

Korean s takeover of Walking street. They aren't made of money.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879128]There were a couple of nice ones there, but that was 6-8 months ago. I have no been back since. Here are some photos. It's not the worst line up I have seen. One of these ladies took care of me real well on multiple occasions.[/QUOTE]We (was there with franky) went somewher eearly Nov. Maybe just a bad day. Will check again when back Feb.!

I am really pissed off with myself. I have been in Pattaya a few days now and really enjoying myself. However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.

But luckily when I go out, I only have money and a card with hotel name in my wallet. So the loss was only money. And I also keep a copy of my passport in another pocket (which is always closed).

This is a warning for everybody everywhere, always be careful when someone gets too friendly with you.

The first thing I did after that was get more money and I still had a good time that night. I made a mistake but life goes on, so I accepted my loss.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879121]Other than you being let down by a girl you built up in your mind as a stunner and hiring an African chick, which I would never do, I think you are doing pretty good for yourself. In my humble opinion, I think you seem to be missing that rapport building thing you get from the little bit of time spent with a bar girl before the bar fine. Might I suggest a gents club? I think it will tick all your boxes.

1. Time to build a little rapport with the girl over a drink or 2.

2. For ST, no bar fine, just a small room charge.

3. You can view the line up and interview a few choices before making your selection.

4 laid back atmosphere as they cater to mostly expats.

TF is really a delivery service and that's it. You can't always make the right choice with photos.[/QUOTE]I second the motion.

Go to Maggie Mays, buy a drink. Pick a lady, buy her a drink.

Shampoo, rinse, repeat until you find a good one.

Or try another place a few doors down.

I have returned to Pattaya. Things are still relatively quiet, most ladies are still hungry for customers. I got a Bolt taxi in 3 minutes.

We are still not in High Season.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2879099]I then started to ask what a girl wanted for ST and was pleasantly surprised getting offers lower than 1500. For these lower offers I'd counter 1500 with the caveat that a facial or cum in mouth was necessary.[/QUOTE]Why, when they would do it for the price they already told you they would come for? Don't make Pattaya like other places where you have to pay extra for each little thing. Never had to tell a girl that I would give her extra for this that or the other. It is all-inclusive.

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht).[/QUOTE]1. Why are you carrying a wallet? 2. Why are you walking around with 10,000 baht? 3. I do not think I have ever seen a Thai guy on a baht bus.

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]I am really pissed off with myself. I have been in Pattaya a few days now and really enjoying myself. However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.[/QUOTE]That happened to me about 10 years ago.

The songthaew was relatively empty. Then a large group, one chubby girl (the hand), one young guy, and about 6 girls got in. They surrounded me, and the chubby girl asked me to move.

That should have set the alarm bells off. No Thai would ask a tourist to move. I don't believe it's in their culture. Correct?

Luckily, I lost only several hundred baht. I was just about to go to the ATM to reload.

At that time, Schwab would only mail the debit card to my home address; no hotel delivery (Is it still the same?). But it was no big deal since I always carry 3 sets (credit and debit cards) when I travel.

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]I am really pissed off with myself. I have been in Pattaya a few days now and really enjoying myself. However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.

But luckily when I go out, I only have money and a card with hotel name in my wallet. So the loss was only money. And I also keep a copy of my passport in another pocket (which is always closed).

This is a warning for everybody everywhere, always be careful when someone gets too friendly with you.

The first thing I did after that was get more money and I still had a good time that night. I made a mistake but life goes on, so I accepted my loss.[/QUOTE]How didn't you see his hand? What pocket was your wallet in?

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]I am really pissed off with myself. I have been in Pattaya a few days now and really enjoying myself. However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.

But luckily when I go out, I only have money and a card with hotel name in my wallet. So the loss was only money. And I also keep a copy of my passport in another pocket (which is always closed).

This is a warning for everybody everywhere, always be careful when someone gets too friendly with you.

The first thing I did after that was get more money and I still had a good time that night. I made a mistake but life goes on, so I accepted my loss.[/QUOTE]It's not smart to carry your wallet in your pocket. I use a sachel that I keep my phone and wallet in and it always stays around my neck and in front of me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2879203]I have returned to Pattaya. Things are still relatively quiet, most ladies are still hungry for customers. I got a Bolt taxi in 3 minutes.

We are still not in High Season.[/QUOTE]Been back almost a week and it is QUIET. Soi 6 is 5-6 girls to a punter most nights I've seen.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879129]I agree with you on this point. I am just saying that guys should not get so upset when they walk into a bar and get pressured to buy drinks. That's all. Buy or don't buy. It's up to you.[/QUOTE]We agree. I do support the bars ina big way but I am a decent drinker most of the time and like to socialize with the girls at different bars. Mainly Soi 6 establishmkents and when they are too meh IO walk across to the Queen Victoria for a Guinness.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879040]..... Now, after 2 hours and many drinks later, the first girl comes back and sits down beside me when my girl had left for the toilet. She says she really likes me and wants to go with me now......[/QUOTE]She and that girl you were with are not friends. She was only too happy to take that opportunity to take you away from her. It would have been embarrassing for that girl to see you with her when she came from the toilet. She lost a customer to the sneaky girl who would have been smiling from ear to ear in her mind.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2879203]I have returned to Pattaya. Things are still relatively quiet, most ladies are still hungry for customers. I got a Bolt taxi in 3 minutes.

We are still not in High Season.[/QUOTE]MY pet Peeve.

There isn't going to be a high season like 1999. Those days are over BRO.

When have I ever steered this forum wrong.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2879280]She and that girl you were with are not friends. She was only too happy to take that opportunity to take you away from her. It would have been embarrassing for that girl to see you with her when she came from the toilet. She lost a customer to the sneaky girl who would have been smiling from ear to ear in her mind.[/QUOTE]Another teachable moment.

If a girl deeclines your advances at first then decides you are ok after seeing you buy 40 drinks for another girl its best to SHOO her away.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]1. Why are you carrying a wallet? 2. Why are you walking around with 10,000 baht? 3. I do not think I have ever seen a Thai guy on a baht bus.[/QUOTE]10,000 b is not a lot of Money. We have Ballers among us.

I'm not one of them.

No I don't HATE them. Hahhahaha. As long as you Ball in the Right way. Just joking. CALM DOWN fella.

Large bar in TT next to the Gold Moon Bar, picked up a lady I have seen on TF. Quite pretty for an older lady (I am older anyway). Wee tiny spinner sub 5', sub 95 lbs yada yada yada. She works as a cook and does some occasional bar hopping FL. Says she is 33, closer to 40 I'd say (who knows). I had zero intention of going via Tree Town but decided to get onto some different scenes from my usual. Most bars were dead, but some including this one and Gold Moon etc were hopping with mainly an OVER 50's crowd. Wooo hoooo, granny city.

Anyway, I went and got a nice CHEAP 60 Baht beer and virtually fell into Tiny. Bought her a drink, good value at sub 100 Baht. Chat chat. Blah blah.

"Would you like to come to the Hard Rock Hotel for the night for boom booms and some breakfast tomorrow".

Absolutely YES.

No discussion of payment. Sweet girl, BBBJ, CFS, tried DATY but I wasn't feeling it. Got in the shower and boom booms then GOT it for some MOARRR pussy licking to completion. Raided the bar fridge. She was still hungry at 11 pm so got dressed and headed down to the cafe. Little miss ate her burger, most of my burger, a salad side and some fries. 95 lbs wringing wet but could eat like a SUMO. Woke up at 6 am (I am an early riser), guzzled 2 litres of water and a bluey to get ROCK HARD and had some morning boom booms. I enjoyed it, she was rocking and rolling that LBFM hard rock body. She had to go by 8 am to see her Mum, gave her 2 k plus 200 for her troubles and adios muy bonita Mamacita.

I will go her again, just a nice lady and the body is A+ for age and spinner-ness.

By the way, is that Yakiniku restaurant in Treetown across from the bars I mentioned any good? Has anyone tried it?

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2879262]It's not smart to carry your wallet in your pocket. I use a sachel that I keep my phone and wallet in and it always stays around my neck and in front of me.[/QUOTE]Why carry a wallet in Pattaya?

I leave my important credit cards, wallet and driver's license in my condo safe, and go out with cash in my pockets, along with a Thai bank card, and cell phone. Not too much cash, BTW.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2879280]She and that girl you were with are not friends. She was only too happy to take that opportunity to take you away from her. It would have been embarrassing for that girl to see you with her when she came from the toilet. She lost a customer to the sneaky girl who would have been smiling from ear to ear in her mind.[/QUOTE]Well that part does not matter. The point I was trying to make was that all girls will bar fine that work in the bars in Pattaya, they don't only work for drinks. They all go, they just may not go with "you". "You" meaning the farang. Or "You" meaning the guy who does not pay enough. Or " You" meaning the guy that has a shopping list of sexual demands. Or "You" meaning the guy who talks too much. Or "You" meaning the guy dressed in flip flops, an un ironed shirt, with uncombed hair, and smelling like BO.

Asians such as the Koreans, Japanese, and even the Chinese believe it or not, when it comes to paying for pussy, are very easy going. They don't ask too many questions, they don't negotiate and just pay what the girl asks, they dress nice, and they just go with the flow.

So, who do you think the girls would prefer to go with? Think about it the next time you see a bar girl avoid you for an Asian dude and think about this when you get refused because she tells you she only works for drinks.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2879272]We agree. I do support the bars ina big way but I am a decent drinker most of the time and like to socialize with the girls at different bars. Mainly Soi 6 establishmkents and when they are too meh IO walk across to the Queen Victoria for a Guinness.[/QUOTE]Guys on here will say that those of us who support the bars are stupid. Actually, we are far from stupid. Yes we support the bars, but our intention is not to support the bars in a sense. Our intention is just to have a good time drinking with the ladies in the Pattaya bars and then after we are done, we go to smash them. Thats it. If one bar closes, we will do the same in others bars. In that sense, there is nothing wrong with that. We can choose how to spend our money just like the CC can as well.

What ticks me off are the guys that think that we ruin it for them or the Asians ruin it for them. That may be true, but those CC make their own choices and that puts them into a category where only certain types of Thai girls will be with them. So be it.

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.[/QUOTE]I try my best to always wear shorts/pants and/or a shirt with zippers no matter where I travel, especially Europe. Makes me much less susceptible to pickpockets. I only carry my room key, a credit card I set with only a $500 limit, and the cash I will spend that night. Then I spread it out over many different pockets. The only wallet I may carry is a fake one to throw off pickpockets. For those who wear pants, you can also keep money in your socks. I don't but I know guys who do.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2879330]I try my best to always wear shorts / pants and / or a shirt with zippers no matter where I travel. Makes me much less susceptible to pickpockets. I only carry my room key, a credit card I set with only a $500 limit, and the cash I will spend that night. Then I spread it out over many different pockets. The only wallet I may carry is a fake one to throw off pickpockets. For those who wear pants, you can also keep money in your socks. I don't but I know guys who do.[/QUOTE]For me in Pattaya, I just don't use the public transport system. Simple. Bolt taxis and motorcycle taxis if during rush hour. I know the Baht bus is only 10 baht but I would rather spend 50-150 baht on a bolt taxi or motorcycle to take myself out of situations where I may be robbed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]1. Why are you carrying a wallet?[/QUOTE]1. I just like to have my money in one place. And when you open your wallet and the girls see you have a bit of money they get a bit more "active". Maybe I should have used a sachel like CaliGuy33 mentioned.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]2. Why are you walking around with 10,000 baht?[/QUOTE]2. I enjoy watching girls dance at the GoGo bars. LDs are expensive but I don't care too much about that, the interaction with the girls is what I enjoy. So I make sure I have enough cash with me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]3. I do not think I have ever seen a Thai guy on a baht bus.[/QUOTE]3. Haha yeah, first time for me too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]1. Why are you carrying a wallet?[/QUOTE]1. I just like to have my money in one place. And when you open your wallet and the girls see you have a bit of money they get a bit more "active". Maybe I should have used a sachel like CaliGuy33 mentioned.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]2. Why are you walking around with 10,000 baht?[/QUOTE]2. I enjoy watching girls dance at the GoGo bars. LDs are expensive but I don't care too much about that, the interaction with the girls is what I enjoy. So I make sure I have enough cash with me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879228]3. I do not think I have ever seen a Thai guy on a baht bus.[/QUOTE]3. Haha yeah, first time for me too.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879327]Guys on here will say that those of us who support the bars are stupid. Actually, we are far from stupid. Yes we support the bars, but our intention is not to support the bars in a sense. Our intention is just to have a good time drinking with the ladies in the Pattaya bars and then after we are done, we go to smash them. Thats it. If one bar closes, we will do the same in others bars. In that sense, there is nothing wrong with that. We can choose how to spend our money just like the CC can as well.

What ticks me off are the guys that think that we ruin it for them or the Asians ruin it for them. That may be true, but those CC make their own choices and that puts them into a category where only certain types of Thai girls will be with them. So be it.[/QUOTE]Amen, this is spot on. Plus I just like bars and seeing pretty girls.

When I was pickpocketsed a long time ago. It was a lady boy trying to get to get me to go with her. She was pulling at me like girls on soi 6 do. Finally I got away from her and thought myself lucky to be rid of her. Later I found my money was missing. It was only 1000 thb that was loose in a zipped cargo pant pocket.

The most money I'll ever have on me is about 4000 thb, and that isn't very often. I'll have most of that in my phone case and about 1000 in a zippered bag type wallet.

[QUOTE=WishfulThinker;2879175]I am really pissed off with myself. I have been in Pattaya a few days now and really enjoying myself. However last night I was on the baht bus and at one stage a Thai guy stepped on the back of the baht bus. At first he stood at the back but later he asked me to move up a bit so he could also sit down. I could feel his leg against my leg and at that stage all the alarm bells should have been ringing. But I have never had any bad experience in Pattaya whatsoever (OK, maybe sometimes bad luck with a girl, but that's all in the game), so I wasn't suspecting anything at all. It was only after I had got off the bus and a few minutes later that I noticed my wallet was gone (with 10 thousand baht). I was really annoyed with myself, I thought that would never happen to me.

Sorry that happened to you.

But luckily when I go out, I only have money and a card with hotel name in my wallet. So the loss was only money. And I also keep a copy of my passport in another pocket (which is always closed).

This is a warning for everybody everywhere, always be careful when someone gets too friendly with you.

The first thing I did after that was get more money and I still had a good time that night. I made a mistake but life goes on, so I accepted my loss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879331]For me in Pattaya, I just don't use the public transport system. Simple. Bolt taxis and motorcycle taxis if during rush hour. I know the Baht bus is only 10 baht but I would rather spend 50-150 baht on a bolt taxi or motorcycle to take myself out of situations where I may be robbed.[/QUOTE]Mr E would say are you Bonkers. Baht bus is perfectly safe and efficient and cost wise, very good.

People don't worry about pickpocket s. That's on you. Don't Flex by having your wallet sticking out your Butt.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879326]Well that part does not matter. The point I was trying to make was that all girls will bar fine that work in the bars in Pattaya, they don't only work for drinks. They all go, they just may not go with "you". "You" meaning the farang. Or "You" meaning the guy who does not pay enough. Or " You" meaning the guy that has a shopping list of sexual demands. Or "You" meaning the guy who talks too much. Or "You" meaning the guy dressed in flip flops, an un ironed shirt, with uncombed hair, and smelling like BO.

Asians such as the Koreans, Japanese, and even the Chinese believe it or not, when it comes to paying for pussy, are very easy going. They don't ask too many questions, they don't negotiate and just pay what the girl asks, they dress nice, and they just go with the flow.

So, who do you think the girls would prefer to go with? Think about it the next time you see a bar girl avoid you for an Asian dude and think about this when you get refused because she tells you she only works for drinks.[/QUOTE]I hobbied during the golden days in Chang Ping, China; back then non-Asians like myself were charged more than Asians for the hottest girls because of dick size.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2879417]Mr E would say are you Bonkers.[/QUOTE]And he wouldn't be the only one. I've taken hundreds, no, thousands of Pattaya songthaews over many years and haven't seen as much as a pickpocket attempt. Now the jeepneys in Angeles City are a different matter. . .

[QUOTE=Turgid;2879455]I hobbied during the golden days in Chang Ping, China; back then non-Asians like myself were charged more than Asians for the hottest girls because of dick size.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I forgot about that one. You are absolutely correct. "You" also meaning the faring who might have a big dick. LOL.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879608]Ah yes, I forgot about that one. You are absolutely correct. "You" also meaning the faring who might have a big dick. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been reading posts about size for years. Are we talking 2 inches. Need to know.

The Soi of Dreams will turn into a nightmare if you don't lower youR expectations.

The Quality on the Soi is as Bad as I've ever seen. Number of said forementioned seems down too.

The end of the month / year / decade Discounts will be as usual from the Bottom of the Barrel type girls.

[QUOTE=Tlito;2879637]I have been reading posts about size for years. Are we talking 2 inches. Need to know.[/QUOTE]For most hot white skinned Thai girls in Pattaya that cater to Asians, 1/2 inch is perfect LOL.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879655]For most hot white skinned Thai girls in Pattaya that cater to Asians, 1/2 inch is perfect LOL.[/QUOTE]Always perfect when a person can make the same money for less work. Now ask a chick if 1/2 is perfect on her boyfriend and you have another story on your hand.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2879307]Large bar in TT next to the Gold Moon Bar, picked up a lady I have seen on TF. Quite pretty for an older lady (I am older anyway). Wee tiny spinner sub 5', sub 95 lbs yada yada yada. She works as a cook and does some occasional bar hopping FL. Says she is 33, closer to 40 I'd say (who knows). I had zero intention of going via Tree Town but decided to get onto some different scenes from my usual. Most bars were dead, but some including this one and Gold Moon etc were hopping with mainly an OVER 50's crowd. Wooo hoooo, granny city.

Anyway, I went and got a nice CHEAP 60 Baht beer and virtually fell into Tiny. Bought her a drink, good value at sub 100 Baht. Chat chat. Blah blah.

"Would you like to come to the Hard Rock Hotel for the night for boom booms and some breakfast tomorrow".

Absolutely YES.

No discussion of payment. Sweet girl, BBBJ, CFS, tried DATY but I wasn't feeling it. Got in the shower and boom booms then GOT it for some MOARRR pussy licking to completion. Raided the bar fridge. She was still hungry at 11 pm so got dressed and headed down to the cafe. Little miss ate her burger, most of my burger, a salad side and some fries. 95 lbs wringing wet but could eat like a SUMO. Woke up at 6 am (I am an early riser), guzzled 2 litres of water and a bluey to get ROCK HARD and had some morning boom booms. I enjoyed it, she was rocking and rolling that LBFM hard rock body. She had to go by 8 am to see her Mum, gave her 2 k plus 200 for her troubles and adios muy bonita Mamacita.

I will go her again, just a nice lady and the body is A+ for age and spinner-ness.

By the way, is that Yakiniku restaurant in Treetown across from the bars I mentioned any good? Has anyone tried it?[/QUOTE]So this Gold Moon bar in TT has mostly 40 plus year old women? Perhaps I'll give it a try to satisfy a fantasy.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2879317]Why carry a wallet in Pattaya?

I leave my important credit cards, wallet and driver's license in my condo safe, and go out with cash in my pockets, along with a Thai bank card, and cell phone. Not too much cash, BTW.[/QUOTE]I keep the same stuff in my wallet, as well as a copy of my passport and room key. Extra cards and cash are kept in the safe.

I did my annual visit to Walking Street last night.

The two ladies I was with wanted to go see a man show at a place near the entrance. There were Russian and Brazilian dancers. Exciting for the ladies, I mainly watched the reactions of a waitress to the dancers, lots of side eye from her.

Then on to Skyfall. Not crowded, but a decent crowd. There was one really hot topless dancer, world class.

Last, Windmill. Not jam packed, I got a good seat on the second floor. The ladies were flagging from the drinks, so we went home after I played a bit with the ladies.

Feeling a bit less jaded since my first report. Maybe just a bit.

Note: View Talay 6 (Bayview?) is a great choice for lodging. First time here and for the price (about $50 ish a night) it's a real winner. Cleaned everyday and you don't have to deal with the bullshit of signing in your nightly dates. You just have your date leave her ID with the security guy and up she goes. Rooms are a bit dated, though. More than a few things were in disrepair and it's definitely not the Hilton. That being said, for $50 ish a night you can get a pretty spacious apartment with a great ocean view. Girls seemed to more or less like it, too.

23 year old off of TF once again: Asked her ST and she said 1000. Told her I'll pay her 1500 if I Can come in her mouth. "Can", so she was invited over.

Dark Isaan girl much tanner than the white TF profile pics, but she had a banging body and I also more or less just expect all of these girls to be tanner than their pics at this point. Had a scowl on her face and said barely anything from the lobby to the elevator and into the room. She showers and comes out with her towel wrapped around her. Looked pretty great, her attitude less so. Told her time for the towel to come off. Off it went and she's climbs into bed. My cock finds its way into her mouth. Mechanical and uninspired, but did its job and the unit is ready to work. Had her climb ontop for reverse cow girl. Pretty lackluster ride, but pretty spectacular view. Gently turn her for missionary. Much better. Great tits and much better position as I'm in control. Nearly to completion but tell her to flip for doggy. Request is met with an eyeroll and a grumble. Lovely. Going at it in doggy at a vigorous pace as her ass is 9/10, especially for a Thai. She's slightly moaning, maybe partially out of satisfaction but unequivocally expressing discomfort. Considering her attitude, I don't really care and I keep at my pace until completion. Give her 1500 and tell her grab a water out of the fridge if she wants. Didn't end up coming in her mouth, but was more or less satisfied with the sex. Got a message on LINE 5 minutes after she left my room. Couldn't figure out how to get to the bottom floor (I was at the Hilton at this point. Have to go to floor 16 first then take another elevator to level 1). Wordlessly escort her to the bottom floor. Adios.

4/10 - major score inflation because she had an unbelievable body. One of the most starfish-like and mechanical experiences I've had in Thailand. Actually might be one of the worst. Seems like a trend with these girls in their early 20's. Maybe me being in my late 30's is causing some sort of chemistry disconnect.

30 year old girl off of TF: 1500ST with included facial.

Brought this girl to my ST abode at View Talay. A little bit chubbier but I found her curves to be very attractive. Immediately a night and day attitude difference from the 23 year old scowler from earlier. Though just as tan, but at least her TF pictures didn't hide this. Offered her to take anything she wanted from the fridge. She smiled and thanked me sweetly as she took a Fanta from the fridge. She takes a shower and comes out patting down her hair. Off comes the towel without me even telling her. Good girl. We're both under the blanket and she's having a go at my cock ravenously. I fucking love it. Somehow find the restraint to stop her and request she put on a rubber for me. Have her climb ontop and she rides me while kissing me deeply. No ability to restrain myself any longer and I erupt inside her. Well, inside the rubber that's inside of her. She collapses to my chest and starts kissing my neck. I gently let her slip to my side and I throw away the rubber. Kobe. I tell her I'm going to massage her and rub her a bit. She smiles and gives the OK. I work my magic. She is purring and kissing my neck softly in the process of the massage. Check. Yup, she's wet and I guess I'm doing something right. She starts sucking my cock again and tries to put it in her raw. I somehow compose myself and grab her and stop the potential disaster. I kiss her neck and say we'll just cuddle a bit while I grind my cock on her pussy. She giggles and tries to slip it in, but I grab her hand and smile at her. We cuddle a bit as I massage her. She falls asleep. I let her sleep while I massage her for another hourish. It's nearing 2:00 AM and I am tiring myself. Lovely session, but I don't want to fall asleep with her. I gently wake her up and tell her "nong, sorry, brother has to sleep and you have to go". She smiles and pulls me in to cuddle her a little bit more and tries to sleep again. Very cute, but I unfortunately had some obligations in the morning, so I gently raise her up and get her her things. Give her 2000, tell her 500 tip for being a sweetheart. She smiles and thanks me and says to call her again.

9/10 Pretty great and memorable experience. Almost danced with the devil and entered her raw, but luckily had enough sense to stop myself. Saved her LINE as a favorite.

Have a few more fuck tales, but I for some reason can't be bothered to recount all of them. Still have to say a good amount of them were not very satisfactory. It does seem like these girls in their 20's kind of suck attitude-wise. Sometimes their physical beauty makes up for it, but idk, often times their poor attitudes make for quite the bum experience. Outlook on Pattaya less dour than initially, but still believe I will try for a change of scenery the next time I am set to monger. Will probably try to see if I figure out what the Lao scene is like. Should have an advantage being Lao American and being able to speak Lao. Maybe will try somewhere in Africa because those African curves are lovely.

End.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2879654]The Soi of Dreams will turn into a nightmare if you don't lower youR expectations.

The Quality on the Soi is as Bad as I've ever seen. Number of said forementioned seems down too.

The end of the month / year / decade Discounts will be as usual from the Bottom of the Barrel type girls.[/QUOTE]Oh beware all, the prophet of doom and despair has landed (purportedly), name changes and all in the blessed land.

And he has proclaimed, echoing across the room and rooftops, that not all is not good in paradise.

Well, what of that is true?

Once again, he references a youtube video, not any names or photos of his own, nothing verifiable at all offered.

No facts, figures, not even any arguable discounting of other peoples posted reports (with photos) saying she is gone, a fugly, a 5-6 whatever.

Could it be perchance that he is merely still sitting online in his mother's basement?

Ponder that all.

Then remember one man's poison is another man's pleasure.

And that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Or the corollary, what you hold that is attractive, is always that little bit more beautiful than what you don't.

Long may YMMV rule.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2879455]I hobbied during the golden days in Chang Ping, China; back then non-Asians like myself were charged more than Asians for the hottest girls because of dick size.[/QUOTE]WOW, talk about a blast from the past. I actually lived in Chan Ping for almost two years in 2009-2011. Was the only white guy in my apartment building. KTV's at that time were "off the hook". More than once I had one of the Chinese girls make me go into the bathroom with her (and sometimes 2-3 of the other girls in the room) to see the size of my cock before they would agree (or not) to go back to my room. It was always funny to watch them trying to decide which decision to make. Sometimes, I think it was the desire to try on a waiguo ren cock for the first time and others just wanted something of size. (girth). Many just said "no thanks" and offered to switch seats with the other girls if I had more than one seated. What a glorious time to be a man in a foreign country! Wow!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2879716]Sounds like an advertisement from the Tourism Authority of Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I think I should apply for a job. However, after the German documentary, they don't want to promote our kind of tourism in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Forty Drinks;2879654]The Soi of Dreams will turn into a nightmare if you don't lower youR expectations.

The Quality on the Soi is as Bad as I've ever seen. Number of said forementioned seems down too.

The end of the month / year / decade Discounts will be as usual from the Bottom of the Barrel type girls.[/QUOTE]


I am heading over to Soi 6 in the next few days. I will report back with any sitings of 40 drinks AKA Raj Patel. His assessment of the talent in soi 6 is soley based on photos in Facebook. If he is on the ground, he needs to actually enter one of the bars to see the full line up. Walking by and making 500 Baht ST offers to random girls just won't cut it.

Any recommendations? I think I will go into flirt or Sweet Bar. These two I have nt experienced yet. If they suck, then Butterfly bar will be next. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2879842]Oh beware all, the prophet of doom and despair has landed (purportedly), name changes and all in the blessed land.

And he has proclaimed, echoing across the room and rooftops, that not all is not good in paradise.

Well, what of that is true?

Once again, he references a youtube video, not any names or photos of his own, nothing verifiable at all offered.

No facts, figures, not even any arguable discounting of other peoples posted reports (with photos) saying she is gone, a fugly, a 5-6 whatever.

Could it be perchance that he is merely still sitting online in his mother's basement?

Ponder that all.

Then remember one man's poison is another man's pleasure.

And that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Or the corollary, what you hold that is attractive, is always that little bit more beautiful than what you don't.

Long may YMMV rule.[/QUOTE]Pet Peeve number 88.

Go to any bar any bar I dare you.

Number 1 girl will not look like say number 40 girl.

How do you rate the girl,. By income, how many drinks, Barfines, etc.

Even Honey Massage categorizes Their girls. From ugly ugly ugly to hey from FaR Distance she looks ok. Hahaha.

Time to vote for post of year or poster of year.

No I'm not voting for Sub, Commander.

This guy is so far ahead it's not even a competition. He is a man above Women so to say. If he were a Cyclist.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879860]I think I should apply for a job. However, after the German documentary, they don't want to promote our kind of tourism in Pattaya.




I am heading over to Soi 6 in the next few days. I will report back with any sitings of 40 drinks AKA Raj Patel. His assessment of the talent in soi 6 is soley based on photos in Facebook. If he is on the ground, he needs to actually enter one of the bars to see the full line up. Walking by and making 500 Baht ST offers to random girls just won't cut it.

Any recommendations? I think I will go into flirt or Sweet Bar. These two I have nt experienced yet. If they suck, then Butterfly bar will be next. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Lots of pretty girls.

Toy box.

Sexy in the City.

Passion.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2879815]So this Gold Moon bar in TT has mostly 40 plus year old women? Perhaps I'll give it a try to satisfy a fantasy.[/QUOTE]A few bars in a row. Most were meh.

I'm in pattaya right now, first trip was in 2015, last trip was back in 2016. So I certainly don't have the experience / hindsight that much older mongers / expats do when they've been / live in Pattaya back in 2008-2015.

I'm not going to complain about prices, that's stupid. Prices will always go up in every mongering country. But I will complain about the lineup, holy hell what a disappointment. I will always love and visit Thailnd, but its hard when you can see how much better it used to be. That doesn't mean other mongering cities can beat it, they can't, but its still a bit sad.

Sapphire, bad. Sensations, bad. Whatsup, gone. Insomnia, shockingly trash (but its been on the decline even in 2016). These used to be my go-to spots for WGs and freelancers. I'm scared to walk into Skyfall to check how bad it has gotten, not to mention any other new go-go. Unfortunately I don't have enough time to scout every hidden gym beer bar or gogo or disco. I'm sure there’s still solid talent that can be found.

XS and Palace are the only saving grace for me. Iron, Pinup and Baccara are ok. I will try kink. I didn't like my last visit to Fahrenheit but apparently a lot folks still do.

In summary, I miss the old Pattaya. I don't know if 2015 counts as "old" but there was a lot more quality around. I will still visit obviously, but my smile won't be as wide.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2879928]I'm in pattaya right now, first trip was in 2015, last trip was back in 2016. So I certainly don't have the experience / hindsight that much older mongers / expats do when they've been / live in Pattaya back in 2008-2015.

I'm not going to complain about prices, that's stupid. Prices will always go up in every mongering country. But I will complain about the lineup, holy hell what a disappointment. I will always love and visit Thailnd, but its hard when you can see how much better it used to be. That doesn't mean other mongering cities can beat it, they can't, but its still a bit sad.

Sapphire, bad. Sensations, bad. Whatsup, gone. Insomnia, shockingly trash (but its been on the decline even in 2016). These used to be my go-to spots for WGs and freelancers. I'm scared to walk into Skyfall to check how bad it has gotten, not to mention any other new go-go. Unfortunately I don't have enough time to scout every hidden gym beer bar or gogo or disco. I'm sure theres still solid talent that can be found.

XS and Palace are the only saving grace for me. Iron, Pinup and Baccara are ok. I will try kink. I didn't like my last visit to Fahrenheit but apparently a lot folks still do.

In summary, I miss the old Pattaya. I don't know if 2015 counts as "old" but there was a lot more quality around. I will still visit obviously, but my smile won't be as wide.[/QUOTE]Give soi 6 a try. Go into Butterfly and OMEGA, Toy Box, and maybe Flirt. You may find a few pleasant surprises. For go go bars, try Co Co and Moon go go.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2879928]Sapphire, bad. Sensations, bad. Whatsup, gone. Insomnia, shockingly trash [/QUOTE]Well at least you knew where to go in 2015. Sapphire, Sensations, Baccara, WhatsUp, Fahrenheit, Happy, Skyfall, and Windmill (for dirty fun) were the prime WS gogo bars in 2015. You won't find any gogo bar like they were back in the good old days. I remember Sensations you had to walk through well over 100 girls just to get in to the bar. There must have been 150-200 girls on many nights. Oddly places like Palace had very few girls the couple of times I visited back in 2015.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879935]Give soi 6 a try. Go into Butterfly and OMEGA, Toy Box, and maybe Flirt. You may find a few pleasant surprises. For go go bars, try Co Co and Moon go go.[/QUOTE]Why won't you People just give in. If he can't find girls to his liking on walk street he surely innit going to find them in Soi 6.

Some attractive whiteys can be found at kelaya bar 66. I think they might require 40 drinks though. In total, not to 1 girl.

Seems more for Groups. Not for Single Hansum Man.

Day 1.

The night began at Bliss. I had a few drinks with a girl named "Lick" and her friend. Lick quoted me 1500 baht for the bar fine and 4000 baht for ST, and she offered LT for 5000 baht (I think). Seeing her in the lights, I decided to pass.

What bothered me about the Bliss was the constant harassment for drinks. Despite being there for less than 20 minutes and buying drinks 3 drinks each for Lick and her friend, others started approaching for drinks. Bliss was nearly empty around 10 pm, with only three customers that I counted. The pressure to buy drinks took all the fun out.

After Bliss, I intended to go to Windmill but ended up in another gogo in the first alley. I don't recall its name. They were less insistent on drinks, but the lineup was weak. After a few drinks, I finally made it to Windmill, not much to say other than I was able to check the box by visiting. I did get the price. 500 for the room and 4000 for the girl. No thanks.

At this point, I was done with Walking Street and decided to go to 6th Street. I had more fun here, especially at Utopia bar and Toybox. A girl at Utopia wanted to go to the hotel with me. I might take her before my trip ends, but I had too many drinks and was tired, took a motorcycle taxi. I won't do that again; I was afraid for my life with the way they weave in and out of traffic.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2879951]Day 1.

The night began at Bliss. I had a few drinks with a girl named "Lick" and her friend. Lick quoted me 1500 baht for the bar fine and 4000 baht for ST, and she offered LT for 5000 baht (I think). Seeing her in the lights, I decided to pass.

What bothered me about the Bliss was the constant harassment for drinks. Despite being there for less than 20 minutes and buying drinks 3 drinks each for Lick and her friend, others started approaching for drinks. Bliss was nearly empty around 10 pm, with only three customers that I counted. The pressure to buy drinks took all the fun out.

After Bliss, I intended to go to Windmill but ended up in another gogo in the first alley. I don't recall its name. They were less insistent on drinks, but the lineup was weak. After a few drinks, I finally made it to Windmill, not mucj to say other than I was able to check the box by visiting. I did get the price. 500 for the room and 4000 for the girl. No thanks.

At this point, I was done with Walking Street and decided to go to 6th Street. I had more fun here, especially at Utopia bar and Toybox. A girl at Utopia wanted to go to the hotel with me. I might take her before my trip ends, but I had too many drinks and was tired, took a motorcycle taxi. I won't do that again; I was afraid for my life with the way they.

Weave in and out of traffic.[/QUOTE]Now this guy has a right to complain as he was already taking care of a couple of ladies. My advice to you is this. I have taken care of a couple of ladies in the past in one bar. Then others see and want in on the action. I simply say this. I can't take care of every girl in the bar. It's not my responsibility. That always works.

as fior Soi 6, not 6th street, you made the right move. Walking street is only good for a once in a while excursion. I love it. But I spend there majority of my time on Soi 6 and in gents clubs.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2879951]What bothered me about the Bliss was the constant harassment for drinks. [b]Despite being there for less than 20 minutes and buying drinks 3 drinks each[/b] for Lick and her friend, others started approaching for drinks.[/QUOTE]Despite? Maybe they saw it like I am seeing it: This guy is jai dee and we better get while the getting is good. Juice the golden goose before he gets away.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2879951]What bothered me about the Bliss was the constant harassment for drinks. Despite being there for less than 20 minutes and buying drinks 3 drinks each for Lick and her friend, others started approaching for drinks. Bliss was nearly empty around 10 pm, with only three customers that I counted. The pressure to buy drinks took all the fun out.[/QUOTE]If you have read any of my posts at all over the past many years a LD gets you 15+ minutes of a girl's time. Any less then let the girl go. She's not who you want to BF. Yes, of course many other girls came running up to you looking for drinks cause they saw you buying quick drinks for the girl you were with. Thai girls have a keen sense on guys who may not know how things work and take full advantage of them. Your girl should have waved them off. If she didn't then she's not the right girl.

Bliss takes full advantage of being the first(?) gogo bar as you walk on to WS. Like a night market, think twice before buying from the first stall that sells something you want.

[QUOTE=Forty Drinks;2879941]Some attractive whiteys can be found at kelaya bar 66. I think they might require 40 drinks though. In total, not to 1 girl.[/QUOTE]

Never had a girl ask for 40 drinks at Kelaya. Even years ago they didn't go with all guys rather who they liked. Problem was they wanted gogo bar prices and this was when Soi 6 was strictly 300 + 1000. I never lasted more than 1 or 2 drinks with a girl at Kelaya. The good thing about Kelaya is the girls aren't sharks and they don't rush you for drinks, unlike what Gator experienced above.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879860]I think I should apply for a job. However, after the German documentary, they don't want to promote our kind of tourism in Pattaya.




I am heading over to Soi 6 in the next few days. I will report back with any sitings of 40 drinks AKA Raj Patel. His assessment of the talent in soi 6 is soley based on photos in Facebook. If he is on the ground, he needs to actually enter one of the bars to see the full line up. Walking by and making 500 Baht ST offers to random girls just won't cut it.

Any recommendations? I think I will go into flirt or Sweet Bar. These two I have nt experienced yet. If they suck, then Butterfly bar will be next. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Soi 6 is fine as there are a few cuties at the bars I go to. YMMV. I only need one cutie per bar at the worst of times.

6th trip this year.

I am here from last 3 weeks and 6th visit this year.

Only thing I did differently this time that avoid Gogo bars and it's costing me 40-50% less money this time.

Gogo quality is going down, girls and even waiters way too pushy for drinks, mamasan asking a big tip after you barfine a girl and also buying tequila shot pressure.

I mainly spend my day in gents club or in a room with Thai friendly girl.

Evening. Mostly Soi6 and night with Thai friendly freelancer or sometime I barfine from Soi6.

I like gents clubs. Girls are naughtier, value for money, relax environment and they have rooms as well.

I think I am going to stick to Gents club, Soi 6 for evening drinks and Thai friendly.

Soi Bukhao is cheaper than Soi6 but quality is not there.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879860]

Any recommendations? I think I will go into flirt or Sweet Bar. These two I have nt experienced yet. If they suck, then Butterfly bar will be next. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Soi 6 is like going to a fresh fruit market. The options all seem sweet and succulent, but hard to tell from just the outside. LOL.

I would highly recommend "Fire", especially if you can participate in one of the Fired UP events they have on Wednesdays and Fridays. They girls might not all be the best looking, but they really do know how to have a good time and the management team seems to know how to please the customers. I would also suggest Hollywood, again, some really cute girls and they seem to know how to treat a good customer. A nice balance between being forward and being aggressive. That at least has been my experience. These are just my Soi 6 experiences. I would also suggest tagging along on one of the sponsored Soi 6 bar crawls. It is a nice way to experience many bars on the Soi with like minded people and the bars you visit have an incentive to put their best options to you. If you find something you like, no problem to drop out, either for the evening or catch up later.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2879873]Pet Peeve number 88.

Go to any bar any bar I dare you.

Number 1 girl will not look like say number 40 girl.

How do you rate the girl,. By income, how many drinks, Barfines, etc.

Even Honey Massage categorizes Their girls. From ugly ugly ugly to hey from FaR Distance she looks ok. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Here's probably pet peeve no #101 for you.

No two girls look alike totally, or act alike totally, or think alike totally, or like the same type of monger walking into the bar.

And that for most of us is actually the wonderful pleasure of engaging, playing the game, leading hopefully to an intimate encounter.

For you oh wise one I sense you just want homogenous looks, shapes, and spread pussy.

Maybe AI and sex dolls will be your salvation.

As to going to bars, no need to dare me.

I have, I did go in, and what's more I reported on it, bar names, girl names, scores, ratings (looks and sex), and even added photos.

Over to you now to do similar, pony it up, or STFU.

Or are you still in the darkness of that basement hovel at your mothers that you call home?

Friday Night.

Utopia around 9 pm had some Very Ok lookers. Meaning more than 1.

Very worth 1,500-2,000. I fancied the one in Glasses.

One Utopia girl flexxed what looked like a large amount of thousand baht bills. She was overly Joyous. MeThinks someone Vastly overpaid. Hahaha 🤣.

Another bar where I was at. A certified 2 got Barfined. Not by a Korean though. He look like from East Asia. No offense.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2879937]Well at least you knew where to go in 2015. Sapphire, Sensations, Baccara, WhatsUp, Fahrenheit, Happy, Skyfall, and Windmill (for dirty fun) were the prime WS gogo bars in 2015. You won't find any gogo bar like they were back in the good old days[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880093]6th trip this year.

Only thing I did differently this time that avoid Gogo bars and it's costing me 40-50% less money this time.

Gogo quality is going down, girls and even waiters way too pushy for drinks, mamasan asking a big tip after you barfine a girl and also buying tequila shot pressure.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2879951]

What bothered me about the Bliss was the constant harassment for drinks. Despite being there for less than 20 minutes and buying drinks 3 drinks each for Lick and her friend, others started approaching for drinks. Bliss was nearly empty around 10 pm, with only three customers that I counted. The pressure to buy drinks took all the fun out.
.[/QUOTE]




It feels a bit like agogos overplayed their hands with the urge to make a lot of money fast. Higher salaries and we see 300 THB LD soon. The whole business model is broken at least.

Not only read here but all over the internet you read more about pushing for LD's and the Asian learned the ladies the trick you don't have to tell a "my sister no drink please" stories. So in some agogos they just arrive like a flock of seagulls.

For 2023/2024. Not sure what agogos punters should go to have an "old time" experience. Probably windmill is still oke. But KINK is also heading to overthetop? Yeah still fun there but doesn't give the same feeling as before (or Windmill precovid?

What would be the top 5 agogos for 2024?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879979]Despite? Maybe they saw it like I am seeing it: This guy is jai dee and we better get while the getting is good. Juice the golden goose before he gets away.[/QUOTE]In Singapore they call them indiscriminate drink Buyers Carrots. Hahaha. Not a good Thing.

P.S. . I don't care if he bought 40 drinks he still a 🥕 Carrot. No offense.

Wouldn't surprise me if said Carrots never goes to Bliss again.

Sort of like Pushovers.

Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.

P.S.: I was in Thailand last December too and paid 2 K for long time but everyone now rejects the 2 K offer. Yesterday I offered 3 K to a young girl and she didn't came down from 4 K demand.

BTW, I picked a nice Kenyan girl in her 20's from the beach road for 1 K short time and it was fine but I just wanted to try black women which I never did before. Her attitude was good and she is keeping good personal hygiene.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here,[/QUOTE]The Indian brothers have ruined it. The ones that everybody claims are so cheap actually pay the most. These are the prices that have trickled down from the Indian discos. Another Indian brother made a couple of reports a few months ago happy with the exorbitant money that he was giving chicks that he picked up from the discos.

1. Repent hooked some baller Koreans Saturday night. I was there 30 minutes I think they rang bell 3 times. In addition to what they were buying for their chosen Goddesses.

2. Walk Street filling up empty spaces. Another medium sized Agogo opened up. In addition to Weed shops.

3. Made contact with a Hot Palace girl. Everything checks out except Price. Hahaha. Hahaha.

P.S. I must emphasize I don't care what anyone spends or doesn't spend. With our 40 drink friend it was just Funny. I felt great Angst in his post.

4. Avarice or wrath has a Hot regular. She doesn't seem to much customers though. Maybe she has a Stable of Koreans in her Black book.

5. Goodfellas hooked 2 customers. Yes it's a big deal.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.

P.S.: I was in Thailand last December too and paid 2 K for long time but everyone now rejects the 2 K offer. Yesterday I offered 3 K to a young girl and she didn't came down from 4 K demand.

BTW, I picked a nice Kenyan girl in her 20's from the beach road for 1 K short time and it was fine but I just wanted to try black women which I never did before. Her attitude was good and she is keeping good personal hygiene.[/QUOTE]Prices at Ibar and Insomnia come way down after 3 am.

Hansum Farang can pay 500 baht when lady no have customer all night.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.[/QUOTE]If you are there you know how busy it is in those clubs? Whats the guy / girl ratio?

With less farang in Pattaya and certain groups avoiding agogos (indians / arab) it could make sense. More guys in clubs as their hunting ground so the girls increase their prices?

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.

P.S.: I was in Thailand last December too and paid 2 K for long time but everyone now rejects the 2 K offer. Yesterday I offered 3 K to a young girl and she didn't came down from 4 K demand.

BTW, I picked a nice Kenyan girl in her 20's from the beach road for 1 K short time and it was fine but I just wanted to try black women which I never did before. Her attitude was good and she is keeping good personal hygiene.[/QUOTE]Probably because you're Indian. But who knows. Most can still get ST in Pattaya for 1 to 1,500 thb. Atleast that was my experience in Sept and Oct. But Thai people say now high season customer must pay more na?!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880211]Prices at Ibar and Insomnia come way down after 3 am.

Hansum Farang can pay 500 baht when lady no have customer all night.[/QUOTE]Read between the Lines.

If lady no have customer after 10 hours of trying. And is willing to go for 500 baht.

Please critically think some of you,. Answer not obvious to some.

Let this be a teaching moment.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.

P.S.: I was in Thailand last December too and paid 2 K for long time but everyone now rejects the 2 K offer. Yesterday I offered 3 K to a young girl and she didn't came down from 4 K demand.

BTW, I picked a nice Kenyan girl in her 20's from the beach road for 1 K short time and it was fine but I just wanted to try black women which I never did before. Her attitude was good and she is keeping good personal hygiene.[/QUOTE]Pesky Ballin Indians. Hahaha.
I've never been in an Indian club. Are the girls beach road 777 baht quality or top notch Palace type?

Indians are paying 10000 Baht to Uzbek girls and there are 100's of them in every Indian club.

And they all been picked in an hour or 2.

And 5000 to Thai girls.

So when they go to Ibar or Insomnia - 4 K is like a bargain for them.

Two type Indians come to Pattaya -.

The one in a big groups. They are workers in a factory and there factory send them here as an incentive at the end of year so they don't have money (example. Big groups sharing drinks).

The others are rich Indians who come from all over the world and party in those night clubs that's why there are more and more Indian clubs are popping every day.

They spend a lot of money in those clubs.

Most girls on ThaiFriendly quote 1500/3000.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2880197]The Indian brothers have ruined it. The ones that everybody claims are so cheap actually pay the most. These are the prices that have trickled down from the Indian discos. Another Indian brother made a couple of reports a few months ago happy with the exorbitant money that he was giving chicks that he picked up from the discos.[/QUOTE]

Try ThaiFriendly.

Most girls quote 1500/3000.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2880189]Many girls in the dance bars such as Ibar, Insomnia asking 4 K for long time and 2 K for short time. Which is the same rate girls asking in Bangkok. There used to be 500-1000 baht difference between Bangkok and Pattaya prices before. What is happening here, are these girls started centralized pricing system or it is just because of the high season? My lady boy friend asked 1. 5 K for short time but she wanted 800 and I gave 1 K last year. She told me high season now.

P.S.: I was in Thailand last December too and paid 2 K for long time but everyone now rejects the 2 K offer. Yesterday I offered 3 K to a young girl and she didn't came down from 4 K demand.

BTW, I picked a nice Kenyan girl in her 20's from the beach road for 1 K short time and it was fine but I just wanted to try black women which I never did before. Her attitude was good and she is keeping good personal hygiene.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2880222]If you are there you know how busy it is in those clubs? Whats the guy / girl ratio ? [/QUOTE]Hello, compared to pre COVID situation, I could see many young western men are there in the clubs. More guys I felt like.

Yesterday night I found a nice 24 year old Thai girl for 2 k, I had my first drink on hand from Insomnia and I hardly walked half distance in the club, an old lady pushed her young one on me. I was happy and accepted her. Later they asked for beers and I bought them 2, after dancing for a while I asked the girl if she goes with men. She said yes and showed me 3, I hugged her and fold one finger hence my offer is 2...Then she was showing some playful emotions on face but quickly said yes we go. It was a good time with her. She left past 6 but she ensured 2 guaranteed shots and it was good.

Day before yesterday I had a nice Kenyan young girl for 1K, if anyone want her number you may PM me. The Kenyan girl is a teacher and she said it's ok if I share her number.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2880249]Probably because you're Indian. But who knows. Most can still get ST in Pattaya for 1 to 1,500 thb. Atleast that was my experience in Sept and Oct. But Thai people say now high season customer must pay more na?![/QUOTE]I am Indian but not a person who will spoil the market. I am well aware about the mongering principle and here for a long time. I immediately avoid the girls who ask for 2 k ST and tell them I used to give 1 k for short time and 2 k for long time. If they do not agree I move on. Some Viet girls asking for 7 k till morning 6 am. I laughed at them and asked do you how much I pay for more sexier girls in Vn? I have close working girl friends and I pay her 800 k VND for a full 1 hour good time.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880211]Prices at Ibar and Insomnia come way down after 3 am.

Hansum Farang can pay 500 baht when lady no have customer all night.[/QUOTE]Indeed, falang has an upper hand here.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2880311]Pesky Ballin Indians. Hahaha.
I've never been in an Indian club. Are the girls beach road 777 baht quality or top notch Palace type?[/QUOTE]Many fellow indian club promoters are too pushy. I don't like to go to Indian club either.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2880197]The Indian brothers have ruined it. The ones that everybody claims are so cheap actually pay the most. These are the prices that have trickled down from the Indian discos. Another Indian brother made a couple of reports a few months ago happy with the exorbitant money that he was giving chicks that he picked up from the discos.[/QUOTE]Sooner the rates in Vietnam also will go up I think. When I was in Vn last month, someone asking me a 100 $ for ST. Then I told him, I have been coming to Vn for 10+ years and not ready to pay the price he was asking for.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880325]Indians are paying 10000 Baht to Uzbek girls and there are 100's of them
Most girls on ThaiFriendly quote 1500/3000.[/QUOTE]I heard about that, I would rather prefer to fly to Uzbekistan and FK around for 2-3 weeks LOL. I don't like big women.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880339]Try ThaiFriendly.

Most girls quote 1500/3000.[/QUOTE]Thanks I heard that. I am too lazy to try any app right now. I believe If I open up We Chat or Mi Chat, I can find some.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880325]Indians are paying 10000 Baht to Uzbek girls and there are 100's of them in every Indian club.[/QUOTE]How many Indian club have 100's of Uzbek girls? Didn't even know this was a thing since I've never set foot in an Indian club. Are the Uzbek girls young and hot or like what you see on Beach Road? If hot, is this LT rate? (Asking for a friend I'm not a fan of business like Russian girls).

Haha, you are right. I am one of those Indian's who may have ruined it.

I was in Pattaya for 5 days in July and paid 7 k thb for night. I live in California, where filling petrol in my SUV cost me $120 one time.

7 k thb is like US $200 for night with a 20 to 24 yr young hot Thai girl who enjoys being with me and treats me like king is priceless.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2880197]The Indian brothers have ruined it. The ones that everybody claims are so cheap actually pay the most. These are the prices that have trickled down from the Indian discos. Another Indian brother made a couple of reports a few months ago happy with the exorbitant money that he was giving chicks that he picked up from the discos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pk099;2880492]Haha, you are right. I am one of those Indian's who may have ruined it.

I was in Pattaya for 5 days in July and paid 7 k thb for night. I live in California, where filling petrol in my SUV cost me $120 one time.

7 k thb is like US $200 for night with a 20 to 24 yr young hot Thai girl who enjoys being with me and treats me like king is priceless.[/QUOTE]555, dream on money bags.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2880489]How many Indian club have 100's of Uzbek girls? Didn't even know this was a thing since I've never set foot in an Indian club. Are the Uzbek girls young and hot or like what you see on Beach Road? If hot, is this LT rate? (Asking for a friend I'm not a fan of business like Russian girls).[/QUOTE]LOL. But you, like most of us have been on Walking Street. We see the people walking before they enter clubs, bars, Agogos, restaurants, loitering, or just walking around. So unless they are flown in onto the roof of these clubs by a helicopter or there is some underground tunnels that these hot young Uzbeks are using that I don't know of, then that post might be one of those colored roses glasses, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or my personal fantasy but really and illusion thing, that is so common on here. We should ask LittleBigMan to walk in and out of Raas or Pashaa and report back to us on hot young Uzbeks, solely just there for the balling Indians.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxGfawQ3_Iw[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0X0PUK2l4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pk099;2880492]Haha, you are right. I am one of those Indian's who may have ruined it.

I was in Pattaya for 5 days in July and paid 7 k thb for night. I live in California, where filling petrol in my SUV cost me $120 one time.

7 k thb is like US $200 for night with a 20 to 24 yr young hot Thai girl who enjoys being with me and treats me like king is priceless.[/QUOTE]Wealthy Indian residing in California. Best combination. What can possibly go wrong?

Paying 7 k for a LT.

Your money, of course, but not much to brag about, honestly, it's an easy peasy action.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880339]Try ThaiFriendly.

Most girls quote 1500/3000.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2880536]LOL. But you, like most of us have been on Walking Street. We see the people walking before they enter clubs, bars, Agogos, restaurants, loitering, or just walking around. So unless they are flown in onto the roof of these clubs by a helicopter or there is some underground tunnels that these hot young Uzbeks are using that I don't know of, then that post might be one of those colored roses glasses, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or my personal fantasy but really and illusion thing, that is so common on here. We should ask LittleBigMan to walk in and out of Raas or Pashaa and report back to us on hot young Uzbeks, solely just there for the balling Indians.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxGfawQ3_Iw[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0X0PUK2l4[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't noticed any USSR women in this trip. I have walked from Soi 6 till Insomnia a couple of time.

Jannat. And all age between 20 - 35.

Some are 10's.

But many 8's and 9's.

10000 - LT and they leave at 10-11:00 am.

No rush for them to going early

The only problem with them -No BJ
They all hate it and even you offer 15000 they still say No

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2880489]How many Indian club have 100's of Uzbek girls? Didn't even know this was a thing since I've never set foot in an Indian club. Are the Uzbek girls young and hot or like what you see on Beach Road? If hot, is this LT rate? (Asking for a friend I'm not a fan of business like Russian girls).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879128]There were a couple of nice ones there, but that was 6-8 months ago. I have no been back since. Here are some photos. It's not the worst line up I have seen. One of these ladies took care of me real well on multiple occasions.[/QUOTE]Post 2 hours ago. This seems to be the lineup also early Nov. As said. Not impressed.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2880536]LOL. But you, like most of us have been on Walking Street. We see the people walking before they enter clubs, bars, Agogos, restaurants, loitering, or just walking around. So unless they are flown in onto the roof of these clubs by a helicopter or there is some underground tunnels that these hot young Uzbeks are using that I don't know of, then that post might be one of those colored roses glasses, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or my personal fantasy but really and illusion thing, that is so common on here. We should ask LittleBigMan to walk in and out of Raas or Pashaa and report back to us on hot young Uzbeks, solely just there for the balling Indians.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxGfawQ3_Iw[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0X0PUK2l4[/URL][/QUOTE]Not my thing! Night clubs have never been my thing even when I was younger. Clubs like Hollywood, Difer, not my scene no I-matter how good looking girls might be that includes clubs like I-Bar, Insomia, Tony's thay other place down near Bali Hi pier?

When it comes today the clubs mentioned one can pay my way in

girls I still give it a pass. I'm no world traveler like many of you here I don't know the difference a Russisn or Ukranian, just like a Thai and Lao girl.

Personally I get uncomfortable with the way Arabs and Indian party. I've stood at the entrance of these clubs just to take a peek inside. I wrote a few month back couldn't sleep unusual I got on my bike and cruise for hours around town from the lake darkside. I ended up on WS just walking around taking in the sights. I was standing outside Jannatt? Watching the Indian door guys with the guys beating on the drums watching the crowd go in particularly the women thought I was in Montana never seen no many mules with big saddle bags waiting in line to get in. The smell was bad outside I wonder in a confine area it must be real bad.

I've had So call Russians in HK, Macau comps from my weathy cousin in late 80-90's I was never impress. LOL.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2880578]Post 2 hours ago. This seems to be the lineup also early Nov. As said. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]No one goes to Bar La Poste for pretty girls. That bar is for service oriented guys. Supposedly they are the best in the city for service. I've only been less than 5 times in all my years in Pattaya when visitors wanted to try it. Not once did I ever see a pretty girl. Back in 2015 I wanted to try it once just to confirm if it's good service or not. Girl tried to suck my dick right off. When she couldn't get me off 2 other girls joined in for free to help her out. I went home immediately cause I felt like I needed a shower.

Even though it's out near Soi Batman, I have been to its sister club, Telephone Booth, more often than Bar La Poste. Twice I found a half decent girl so decided to have some fun in the bar only. Buy any of these girls a LD and they immediately strip down and you can do anything you pretty much want to them except BJ/FS will cost you more.

I miss the BJ bars around LK Pavilion, Soi 33 and 3rd Road. There were some very nice young girls in a couple of them.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2880614]
Personally I get uncomfortable with the way Arabs and Indian party..[/QUOTE]How they party??

Money is amazing, it allows guys who are more than likely ugly fat slobs to look at young attractive girls and say that they're not impressed.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2880644]Money is amazing, it allows guys who are more than likely ugly fat slobs to look at young attractive girls and say that they're not impressed.[/QUOTE]Gee, another gift in my Christmas stocking. Thanks. Big smile.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2880536]LOL. But you, like most of us have been on Walking Street. We see the people walking before they enter clubs, bars, Agogos, restaurants, loitering, or just walking around. So unless they are flown in onto the roof of these clubs by a helicopter or there is some underground tunnels that these hot young Uzbeks are using that I don't know of, then that post might be one of those colored roses glasses,[/QUOTE]That is the same thing that I have always said about the gogo girls. Nobody goes crazy about them until the see them in the gogo. Any other time they are just regular chicks to everyone. Stand at the door when they are just walking in to work and how many guys are like I have to have her; I better come back later to buy her a lot of drinks? Nobody.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880551]Jannat. And all age between 20 - 35. 10000 - LT and they leave at 10-11:00 am. No rush for them to going early

The only problem with them -No BJ
They all hate it and even you offer 15000 they still say No[/QUOTE]LOL. Meanwhile the same chick is at my place before she goes to Jannat or after if she does not get anyone doing whatever I want for 1000. That club is always packed shoulder to shoulder. When I was in there at the beginning of the month there was a guy throwing rupees in the air. Nobody was bending down to pick them up.

Get used to it LittleBigMan, for near future 60%+ tourist in Pattaya will be Indians, and most of them will be loaded with money.

You may need to find other venues for mongering.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2880614]Not my thing! Night clubs have never been my thing even when I was younger. Clubs like Hollywood, Difer, not my scene no I-matter how good looking girls might be that includes clubs like I-Bar, Insomia, Tony's thay other place down near Bali Hi pier?

When it comes today the clubs mentioned one can pay my way in

girls I still give it a pass. I'm no world traveler like many of you here I don't know the difference a Russisn or Ukranian, just like a Thai and Lao girl.

Personally I get uncomfortable with the way Arabs and Indian party. I've stood at the entrance of these clubs just to take a peek inside. I wrote a few month back couldn't sleep unusual I got on my bike and cruise for hours around town from the lake darkside. I ended up on WS just walking around taking in the sights. I was standing outside Jannatt? Watching the Indian door guys with the guys beating on the drums watching the crowd go in particularly the women thought I was in Montana never seen no many mules with big saddle bags waiting in line to get in. The smell was bad outside I wonder in a confine area it must be real bad.

I've had So call Russians in HK, Macau comps from my weathy cousin in late 80-90's I was never impress. LOL.[/QUOTE]

I am not bragging, just comparing the price-to-service value. I was not traveling from California to Pattaya just for mongering.

I was visiting India to meet family and friends made plan to visit Pattaya. It was my first time to Pattaya, so the pricing was a nice change for me.

My most mongering happens in Canada or Mexico, which is still more pricier than Pattaya.

Other friends paid standard price between 3 to 4 k thb for LT, but they were just looking for pussy with 3 to 4 rounds of sex in LT.

For some of us having a GFE experience is preferred. Communication is key, so I was looking for hot girl who can communicate well in english.

I talked to some girls in GoGo but did not click with anyone. When I was just wondering on the walking street, met this hot girl and started talking and clicked immd.

She asked for 10 k thb LT and we negotiated for 7 k. It was great choice, lot of fun in clubs and great experience in bed.

She stayed for 1 more day for another 7 k thb. Overall it was way more than LT and great value for money IMO.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2880543]Wealthy Indian residing in California. Best combination. What can possibly go wrong?

Paying 7 k for a LT.

Your money, of course, but not much to brag about, honestly, it's an easy peasy action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2880644]Money is amazing, it allows guys who are more than likely ugly fat slobs to look at young attractive girls and say that they're not impressed.[/QUOTE]They are Sellers we are buyers.

Elon Musk doesn't care if you are a fat smelly ugly slob. Gnomesaying.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2880713]Get used to it LittleBigMan, for near future 60%+ tourist in Pattaya will be Indians, and most of them will be loaded with money.

You may need to find other venues for mongering.[/QUOTE]Contrary to your thinking I don't need to find alternatives we are talking clubs this night clubs I don't have problems with people elsewhere I get along with everyone.

I read all the reports I'm glad I don't have the problems many here have.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2880724]I am not bragging, just comparing the price-to-service value. I was not traveling from California to Pattaya just for mongering.

I was visiting India to meet family and friends made plan to visit Pattaya. It was my first time to Pattaya, so the pricing was a nice change for me.

My most mongering happens in Canada or Mexico, which is still more pricier than Pattaya.

Other friends paid standard price between 3 to 4 k thb for LT, but they were just looking for pussy with 3 to 4 rounds of sex in LT.

For some of us having a GFE experience is preferred. Communication is key, so I was looking for hot girl who can communicate well in english.

I talked to some girls in GoGo but did not click with anyone. When I was just wondering on the walking street, met this hot girl and started talking and clicked immd.

She asked for 10 k thb LT and we negotiated for 7 k. It was great choice, lot of fun in clubs and great experience in bed.

She stayed for 1 more day for another 7 k thb. Overall it was way more than LT and great value for money IMO.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it bro. You have to sort of view everything from your perspective as an American. You might be Indian, descent but you are still an American and 95% of the time, even a foreigner can tell you are an American. When I'm in the States come of my family lives in an area with a lot of Indian Americans, pretty much all of whom are extremely wealthy. I can tell in less than 30 seconds who is off the boat and who was born in Kansas City.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2880736]Noone will take you serious making statements like these. Hahahahahahahahahahahaa.

Thai people in Pattaya hate dealing with INDIANS. Hahahahahahahaha.

Most are not LOADED with money. Hahahahahahaha.

I like Indians. My favorite is the one from SEINFELD.

Indians are WOKE and Broke so to say.[/QUOTE]You might have it wrong! That series guy was Pakistian.

" jerry you a very bad man " LOL.

There is so much bemoaning of the loss of White supremacy on all the forums (Thailand, Philippines etc). For decades Colonialism and its remnants have bestowed magical power on the melanin challenged and attracted hordes of low class white people to Asia because back home women wouldn't even look at them any more. So the Asian sex destinations attracted hundreds of thousands of almost broke pensioners from US, UK and Western Europe in their singlets and sandals who got treated like kings no matter how ugly and uncouth their behavior. Just observe these men in any bar in Pattaya. Boorish, Bald with goatees and total lack of fashion and manners.

But with the new generation things have changed. Regional Asian economies are stronger. Social media and the internet means everyone knows where to go. Korean pop culture supersedes Hollywood and the desirability of white skin is diminishing. I am sure this sad for most of the posters on this board. But it is the future. Japanese and Koreans now. Chinese and Indians next. Thai girls will follow the money and its not coming from broke sexpats. Might as well adapt and deal with it! If you are any race with money and class you will be okay and there will be plenty of women for you. The rest will find their pool shrinking but it will still be better than living on Social Security in Podunk Kentucky.

How does that work for an Indian to buy a whole building? Foreigners are prevented by law from doing that. Or am I wrong on that?

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880812]Thai ladies also hate smelly Farangs. Most of them live in a cheap condo and they are also balloon chasers.

Most Farangs are here for cheap wife and cheap rice which they can't score in there own country.

Indians only come here for few days Not for living there retirement life cheaply.

And now Thai ladies prefer Koreans and japanse anytime over Farangs.

Ask any big real estate agents. They will tell you that right now Indians are the biggest property investors in Thailand.

They are not buying condos. They are buying the whole buildings.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you are wrong.

You can buy land under company name and you can register your company as little as 20000 Baht.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2880819]How does that work for an Indian to buy a whole building? Foreigners are prevented by law from doing that. Or am I wrong on that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2880674]That is the same thing that I have always said about the gogo girls. Nobody goes crazy about them until the see them in the gogo. Any other time they are just regular chicks to everyone. Stand at the door when they are just walking in to work and how many guys are like I have to have her; I better come back later to buy her a lot of drinks? Nobody.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true.

Sometimes I am in a bar before the gogos open, and seeing the ladies coming to work. Not too exciting.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2880829]Yeah you are wrong.

You can buy land under company name and you can register your company as little as 20000 Baht.[/QUOTE]But the company must be 51% owned by Thais, so its not a foreign company. I'm not so sure many Indians want to give 51% of their investment to a Thai for free.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2880736].......I like Indians. My favorite is the one from SEINFELD........[/QUOTE]I like Indians, my favorites are the ones with vaginas.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880879]But the company must be 51% owned by Thais, so its not a foreign company. I'm not so sure many Indians want to give 51% of their investment to a Thai for free.[/QUOTE]Trust me there are loopholes. There might be some laywer who owns 51% on paper yes but he has no control and nothing to say at all.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2880818]There is so much bemoaning of the loss of White supremacy on all the forums (Thailand, Philippines etc). For decades Colonialism and its remnants have bestowed magical power on the melanin challenged and attracted hordes of low class white people to Asia because back home women wouldn't even look at them any more. So the Asian sex destinations attracted hundreds of thousands of almost broke pensioners from US, UK and Western Europe in their singlets and sandals who got treated like kings no matter how ugly and uncouth their behavior. Just observe these men in any bar in Pattaya. Boorish, Bald with goatees and total lack of fashion and manners.

But with the new generation things have changed. Regional Asian economies are stronger. Social media and the internet means everyone knows where to go. Korean pop culture supersedes Hollywood and the desirability of white skin is diminishing. I am sure this sad for most of the posters on this board. But it is the future. Japanese and Koreans now. Chinese and Indians next. Thai girls will follow the money and its not coming from broke sexpats. Might as well adapt and deal with it! If you are any race with money and class you will be okay and there will be plenty of women for you. The rest will find their pool shrinking but it will still be better than living on Social Security in Podunk Kentucky.[/QUOTE]Indeed, the typical bald, fat, loud, wearing a tang top farang one sees especially in Buakhow are repulsive. I just find them oft putting and annoying to be around.

I know plenty younger Thais, they are obsessed with everything Korea. K-pop, movies, drama, the Korean fashion, the Korean ghost white skin, the Korean nose jobs etc.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2880894]I like Indians, my favorites are the ones with vaginas.[/QUOTE]My experience is that Indian ladies in Pattaya are brought there by their husbands, and are generally roly poly types.

In India itself, the situation is different. I ran into some strikingly beautiful young ladies. And, unlike 20 years ago, there are lots of ladies on the streets.

If you barfine a lady from a bar for ST or one night, there is just about a 100% chance you are going to get laid (unless she is too mao at tge end of the night).

My MO is different. I invite ladies to my condo to drink, and leave it up to them what to do. The implication is that they are coming to fuck, but it's not explicit. Most do, but some try to get out of it. For example, some will start sneezing and wheezing as the night goes on, eventually prompting a visit to the clinic later on. One lady I know gets the hiccups while drinking. Some ladies have a sad about some recent tragedy, ie their sponsor left them or a family emergency, and they start crying uncontrollably. Some ladies are only good for Short Time, they have one drink and want to fuck and leave. Of course, there are ladies who emerge from the bathroom and announce "my period start".

After years in Pattaya, I still run into ladies who have new ways of getting out of fucking. Of course, they are usually one and done.

Taking ladies for 3+ days also has risks, but that's another story.

There are some really HOT ladies everywhere in Pattaya. Ratio wise much better than BKK for p4 p IMHO.

I think mixed into the Agogos, Soi 6 bars, LK Metro, Buakhao, Tree Town bars and clubs is a typical bell curve of looks, such curve skewed more to the right with 9-10's than say a place like USA.

YMMV.

3rd picture and last picture are Agogo ladies.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2880578]Post 2 hours ago. This seems to be the lineup also early Nov. As said. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]Yes totally not impressed. Pretty rough line-up.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881006]There are some really HOT ladies everywhere in Pattaya. Ratio wise much better than BKK for p4 p IMHO.

I think mixed into the Agogos, Soi 6 bars, LK Metro, Buakhao, Tree Town bars and clubs is a typical bell curve of looks, such curve skewed more to the right with 9-10's than say a place like USA.

YMMV.

3rd picture and last picture are Agogo ladies.[/QUOTE]Where's the 9's. Hahaha.

I see 4's and 5's.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880995]If you barfine a lady from a bar for ST or one night, there is just about a 100% chance you are going to get laid (unless she is too mao at tge end of the night).

My MO is different. I invite ladies to my condo to drink, and leave it up to them what to do. The implication is that they are coming to fuck, but it's not explicit. Most do, but some try to get out of it. For example, some will start sneezing and wheezing as the night goes on, eventually prompting a visit to the clinic later on. One lady I know gets the hiccups while drinking. Some ladies have a sad about some recent tragedy, ie their sponsor left them or a family emergency, and they start crying uncontrollably. Some ladies are only good for Short Time, they have one drink and want to fuck and leave. Of course, there are ladies who emerge from the bathroom and announce "my period start".

After years in Pattaya, I still run into ladies who have new ways of getting out of fucking. Of course, they are usually one and done.

Taking ladies for 3+ days also has risks, but that's another story.[/QUOTE]Are you still against Sponsorship. To me what you are doing is eerily Similar. You aren't getting your Value worth.

So how you think that foreigners are running many big successful business and I am not talking about gogo bars or clubs, many factories, big manufacturing companies are running by foreigners under the company name.

They are spending millions of Bahts by the same company structure.

I think you need to improve your knowledge first before writing any statement.

I don't want to get into this more as I am not your coach.

Enjoy your Chang!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880879]But the company must be 51% owned by Thais, so it’s not a foreign company. I'm not so sure many Indians want to give 51% of their investment to a Thai for free.[/QUOTE]

First pic girl quoted me 10 k a nigh.

So No thank you!

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881006]There are some really HOT ladies everywhere in Pattaya. Ratio wise much better than BKK for p4 p IMHO.

I think mixed into the Agogos, Soi 6 bars, LK Metro, Buakhao, Tree Town bars and clubs is a typical bell curve of looks, such curve skewed more to the right with 9-10's than say a place like USA.

YMMV.

3rd picture and last picture are Agogo ladies.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100% on that.

2 ST is way better than 1 LT.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2880995]If you barfine a lady from a bar for ST or one night, there is just about a 100% chance you are going to get laid (unless she is too mao at tge end of the night).

My MO is different. I invite ladies to my condo to drink, and leave it up to them what to do. The implication is that they are coming to fuck, but it's not explicit. Most do, but some try to get out of it. For example, some will start sneezing and wheezing as the night goes on, eventually prompting a visit to the clinic later on. One lady I know gets the hiccups while drinking. Some ladies have a sad about some recent tragedy, ie their sponsor left them or a family emergency, and they start crying uncontrollably. Some ladies are only good for Short Time, they have one drink and want to fuck and leave. Of course, there are ladies who emerge from the bathroom and announce "my period start".

After years in Pattaya, I still run into ladies who have new ways of getting out of fucking. Of course, they are usually one and done.

Taking ladies for 3+ days also has risks, but that's another story.[/QUOTE]

Do you know how easy it is to say, "I made a mistake. Indians are not buying up whole buildings. "?

[QUOTE=MGavin;2881090]So how you think that foreigners are running many big successful business and I am not talking about gogo bars or clubs, many factories, big manufacturing companies are running by foreigners under the company name.

They are spending millions of Bahts by the same company structure.

I think you need to improve your knowledge first before writing any statement.

I don't want to get into this more as I am not your coach.

Enjoy your Chang![/QUOTE]

It's not me.

Ask any good real estate agent in Pattaya if they entertain you which I doubt.

Few of my friends are good real estate agent in Pattaya and that's what they said.

As I said improve your knowledge before replying back.

Just enjoy your cheap chang in some shitty bar.

This is not for you.

I am talking about people with money. Not you!

[QUOTE=Horatio;2881097]Do you know how easy it is to say, "I made a mistake. Indians are not buying up whole buildings. "?[/QUOTE].

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[QUOTE=GatorAk;2881118]I just finished 5 day Pattaya trip. You are correct that most farang are "white trash" variety but please don't compare them to Indians. I am speaking from personal experience. Indians are uncultured, rude, zero self awareness, no manners and I could go on and on. This may change over time but currently Thais do not like Indians. Also 95% of Indians you see in Pattaya are poor.

I know only money matters to these girls and Indians aren't the once with money in Pattaya. Indians are creating their own subculture in Pattaya so they may not be aware of what Thais thinks of them.

These girls are ruthless and will accept anyone with money. So yes there are few exceptions where Indians seem to be welcomed but in general Indians are not liked by Thais.

Again, this could change in few years but as things stands you are wrong.[/QUOTE]If you ever went into an Indian club on walking street, you would not be saying this. They spend a lot of money and the girls go in there to seek them out. I know many Indian tourists that come here and ball out. I also know many Indian guys that are richer than most of us. Guess where all the scam call centre staff go to spend the wods of cash they steal from western countries. They come to Thailand and spend that money here. Yes, I agree that there are some Thai girls that feel the way you say, but they have not been to the right places in Pattaya. The rich Indians won't be trolling Thai Friendly and beach road for a 500-1500 Bhat ST. Therefore, I respectfully disagree with what you are saying and what the other poster is saying as well. The girls should expect to find customers that match the places they peddle their services at in Pattaya and it's as simple as that. If they don't want a cheap charlie, they should go to a place a little more upscale. This is common sense. It's not about race. It's about the location in my opinion.

Trust me Raj, and Kumar are not making bank working indian call centres.

Usually economically challengeed are drawn to group tours where Everything has been negotiated at a Discount.

Same old same old, Wealthy Indians would rather go where wealthy American s go. It ain't Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881006]There are some really HOT ladies everywhere in Pattaya. Ratio wise much better than BKK for p4 p IMHO.

I think mixed into the Agogos, Soi 6 bars, LK Metro, Buakhao, Tree Town bars and clubs is a typical bell curve of looks, such curve skewed more to the right with 9-10's than say a place like USA.

YMMV.

3rd picture and last picture are Agogo ladies.[/QUOTE]I just got a hitch in my retirement plans for Pattaya. These girls will have to wait.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2881128]If you ever went into an Indian club on walking street, you would not be saying this. They spend a lot of money and the girls go in there to seek them out. I know many Indian tourists that come here and ball out. [/QUOTE]Yep. They have bottles of whiskey on the table. They are not nursing one beer like the farang. Also if you go in front of Sun City hotel at night you will see tons of chicks out waiting for Indian men. Which hotels that farang stay in can you say the same about?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881183]Yep. They have bottles of whiskey on the table. They are not nursing one beer like the farang. Also if you go in front of Sun City hotel at night you will see tons of chicks out waiting for Indian men. Which hotels that farang stay in can you say the same about?[/QUOTE]People seem to forget there are more indians (1. 4 be!) than farang (north america+Europe+Australia = 850 M) and they are at a much shorter distance.

They monger different. You won't find them in bars / agogo. Same goes for the 400 M Arabs!

My bet? More and more clubs in Walking street and less agogos. Beerbars go down in volume and center around treetown / soi buakhao / LK Metro.

"White trash" is democrat speak for people they assume to be "Trump voters". If the white man has been knocked down a peg or two it's no wonder since his own "elected" officials keep telling everyone just how terrible he is. It's easy to spend money when your government has in their own manner "redistributed" it to you, and you didn't have to earn it in the first place. Those of us who earn for ourselves have to keep track of their budget which is just sound fiscal policy. Why even Joe's FBI & IRS are more interested in white men than in Hamas. LMAO.

The first place I see myself living in the not too distant future is Pattaya as it seems to have the largest support system for the white man at least until he gets his bearings that is. I've worked for a few Indians before. They were more like what "white" men used to be like, fiscally responsible and conservative. I actually had more in common with Indians than with most "modern" white men. Except landscaping, Indians are more in the clear cut so you don't have to pay for it again. Plants dying because they were cut too far back be damned. LOL It looks good now that it's all done, can you take another 3 inches off the entire hedge? LMAO

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881183]Yep. They have bottles of whiskey on the table. They are not nursing one beer like the farang. Also if you go in front of Sun City hotel at night you will see tons of chicks out waiting for Indian men. Which hotels that farang stay in can you say the same about?[/QUOTE]Plenty of ladies outside.

Hilton.

Hard Rock.

When I stay there, but I hear you. Once again though this is a generalized argument. I go to Sapphire and XS and other / s in BKK and Pattaya and most of the ballers with bottle service, spending 20 K Baht - 50 kl+ a night with pictures posted on said clubs social media are farang. Indeed I go to most of the GC and Agogo around the place and many of the ballers are white men.

Oh the treachery. And just like my comment about the Indians below there are all types of Farang living, partying or just holidaying in Pattaya.

YMMV.

A bargirl I know posted on Facebook that she went to Pattaya City Hall to officially change her last name to that of her European husband. Great.

At 7 am this morning, she sent me a message: she wants to come to my condo for Short Time.

One of the bargirls that comes to my condo uses the same taxi driver wherever she goes.

Today, she asked if his wife could come to my condo for drinks and whatever.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2880724]I am not bragging, just comparing the price-to-service value. I was not traveling from California to Pattaya just for mongering.

I was visiting India to meet family and friends made plan to visit Pattaya. It was my first time to Pattaya, so the pricing was a nice change for me.

My most mongering happens in Canada or Mexico.

She stayed for 1 more day for another 7 k thb. Overall it was way more than LT and great value for money IMO.[/QUOTE]I agree to the other guy, 7000 is above the standard rate in Thailand 😆 I am Indian but familiar with SEA for 15 years. I know Mr. E, West Coast, Roger for a decade or so. The unwritten rule we all follow here is "don't inflate the market".

I had lived in Mexico too, I got women from 700 pesos till 1000 in 2019 because of our fellow mongers helped. Later I created my own friend circle out of the ISG and got sex for free.

Last year I got many free sex even from working girls so I know they don't really need 7000 thb to run their life. So, please bring the prices down.

BTW, I picked a Kazak woman for 1200 by saying our organization doesn't like people inflate the market, then she asked me which organization and I said we have a group. She followed me for 1200 and took care of me well.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2881386]

BTW, I picked a Kazak woman for 1200 by saying our organization doesn't like people inflate the market, then she asked me which organization and I said we have a group. She followed me for 1200 and took care of me well.[/QUOTE]I think you might have accidentally made her think you were some kind of mafia member. LOL.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2881303]A bargirl I know posted on Facebook that she went to Pattaya City Hall to officially change her last name to that of her European husband. Great.

At 7 am this morning, she sent me a message: she wants to come to my condo for Short Time.[/QUOTE]Girl I've been seeing for almost a year (once a week) in BKK told me she loved me over Christmas. Wonder what her hubby thinks (she doesn't think I know about him and the 2 kids I help feed / clothe).

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881560]Girl I've been seeing for almost a year (once a week) in BKK told me she loved me over Christmas. Wonder what her hubby thinks (she doesn't think I know about him and the 2 kids I help feed / clothe).[/QUOTE]If she has a Thai husband, then it could be true. Married Thai ladies can love a Farang, same as they love their dog.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881560]Girl I've been seeing for almost a year (once a week) in BKK told me she loved me over Christmas. Wonder what her hubby thinks (she doesn't think I know about him and the 2 kids I help feed / clothe).[/QUOTE]You do not think someone can love more than one person? If that was the case then one could not love a parent, kid, brother, friend all at the same time. Why not ask about the husband? Or is it that you prefer not to rock the boat? Hell, I have been introduced to husbands and other family members of chicks I was screwing before. You would be surprised how many people on earth do not think the same as you.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881560]Girl I've been seeing for almost a year (once a week) in BKK told me she loved me over Christmas. Wonder what her hubby thinks (she doesn't think I know about him and the 2 kids I help feed / clothe).[/QUOTE]I find women in SEA so much looser with using the word 'love' than women in the West. My last visit to the Philippines was in 2007 but in the years I visited up to that time almost every other girl I banged told me they loved me.

Pattaya is jammed.

The Baht buses are full. Bolt taxi takes forever to come, if you can get one.

Lots of traffic.

I just have ladies come to my condo, they take motos, so no problem for them to come here.

If you are staying in central Pattaya and can walk to the bars, no problem for you. Otherwise, good luck getting into Pattaya.

I read here that the quality of the women in the bars and the streets of Pattaya is mediocre (although so called diamonds in the rough are clearly present). I am going to Pattaya for the first time, althogh I have been to BKK at least a dozen times.

In Bkk, I am fond of Thaifriendly because I can choose pretty girl freelancers and ask them to list the services they provide. This is not a fool proof system in BKK (because some girls are liars), but I usually try and arrange one TF girl for one nut / per night, and try and find a second or even a third girl at a bar, a massage parlor or a dance place during the daylight hours (although my favorite places, like Insanity, have closed down). I will add that although its not 100% certain, any girl from a "legitimate" massage parlor who agrees to come to your hotel room to give you a massage can probably be convinced to provide special services for a few thousand extra baht. With this in mind, I will occasionally pass a "legit" massage place where a beautiful woman is working, and I will ask her to give me a massage in my hotel room. I have never failed to get FS. What I never do is go to Soi Cowboy or Nana to find girls. I don't enjoy the atmosphere in the gogo bars there.

In any case, my question is simple and has nothing to do with BKK:

How do the TF freelancers compare in looks to the bar girls in Pattaya? I am not interested in 4's, 5's and 6's. I appreciate a mix of local talent but I hate to waste my time.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2881928]

How do the TF freelancers compare in looks to the bar girls in Pattaya? I am not interested in 4's, 5's and 6's. I appreciate a mix of local talent but I hate to waste my time.[/QUOTE]A girl on TF might be freelance, work bar, soi6, agogo or a massageshop. So what you see in TF is the same as what you might see outside. For the 5/6/7/8/9/10's. Well depends what's your taste? Someones 6 might be another guys 9. So I have to talk "in general" here.

1. Asian have a different taste than most western guys; the Asian 8+ probably work agogo (pinup / xs / palace / etc).

2. I found soi6 not my place however you probably can find a hidden gem there. Same counts for ALL beerbars and GC's.

3. TF you can look yourself. Also some gems there.

Basic answer: You can find gems everywhere.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2881935]A girl on TF might be freelance, work bar, soi6, agogo or a massageshop. So what you see in TF is the same as what you might see outside. For the 5/6/7/8/9/10's. Well depends what's your taste? Someones 6 might be another guys 9. So I have to talk "in general" here.

1. Asian have a different taste than most western guys; the Asian 8+ probably work agogo (pinup / xs / palace / etc).

2. I found soi6 not my place however you probably can find a hidden gem there. Same counts for ALL beerbars and GC's.

3. TF you can look yourself. Also some gems there.

Basic answer: You can find gems everywhere.[/QUOTE]Critical Thinking Thai Style.

You can judge who to trust on Looks.

One person here is Bombarding the site with Photos of avg Girls who can be found anywhere and everywhere. They are not GEMS.

I like white skin with Original s. Sweets style Girls. I always go baseline of Baitoey.

You make the call on who to trust.

The guys who say there are 9 and 10's in Bliss or those who say you lucky if you find a 5. 99 in Bliss.

Those who say Pin or Palace girls who go for 1 k off the clock or those who say Pretty is Darn Expensive. Hmmm. Who to Trust.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2881935]
Basic answer: You can find gems everywhere.[/QUOTE]True, but the easiest, cheapest and quickest way to find them is in Thai Friendly. Although it's, like MamaGuevos already said, not a fool proof system.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2881928]
How do the TF freelancers compare in looks to the bar girls in Pattaya? I am not interested in 4's, 5's and 6's. I appreciate a mix of local talent but I hate to waste my time.[/QUOTE]I would say that the TF freelancers look better on average than the bar girls. There are many 7's and 8's to be found in TF. Not so many 9's and 10's.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2881928]How do the TF freelancers compare in looks to the bar girls in Pattaya? I am not interested in 4's, 5's and 6's. I appreciate a mix of local talent but I hate to waste my time.[/QUOTE]There is no place separating chicks into the ones that MamaGuevos would like versus those that he would not touch. There is a mix of everybody everywhere. As another poster said you can just go to websites and see for yourself. Thaifriendly and a bunch of bars and gogos have sites and pages that you can see for yourself without having to trust the judgement of strangers that do not know your idea of 4,5,6,7,8,9, or 10.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2881878]Pattaya is jammed.

The Baht buses are full. Bolt taxi takes forever to come, if you can get one.

Lots of traffic.

I just have ladies come to my condo, they take motos, so no problem for them to come here.

If you are staying in central Pattaya and can walk to the bars, no problem for you. Otherwise, good luck getting into Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Wow! According to everyone else, it isn't even high season, and Pattaya is a dead no man's land not worth visiting!

Uh-huh, right. Sure. Thanks for the report Explorer.

HNY to all.

In these screenshots you can see the prices that is asked from thaicustomers. You can also compare the quality and the price. Do you really think thaimen pay 1500 for cum one time to a a 35 year old average looking girl? Or even a 25 year old average looking girl? I don't think so.

When it says "1000/1", that means cum one time. Long time seems to be 1500 for good part of those ladies.

I think you are confusing yourself with "Rich by birth" Indians to "recently got rich by IT or Investment" Indians who go to Pattaya because it is a quick weekend trip.

My friends from Bangalore and Delhi decide to go Bkk while drinking in a bar, book tickets on the spot on their mobile for next morning.

These guys are staying in houses bought by parents long back, so no high expenses, they have good salary and can work from anywhere.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2881134]Trust me Raj, and Kumar are not making bank working indian call centres.

Usually economically challengeed are drawn to group tours where Everything has been negotiated at a Discount.

Same old same old, Wealthy Indians would rather go where wealthy American s go. It ain't Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2882047]In these screenshots you can see the prices that is asked from thaicustomers. You can also compare the quality and the price. Do you really think thaimen pay 1500 for cum one time to a a 35 year old average looking girl? Or even a 25 year old average looking girl? I don't think so.

When it says "1000/1", that means cum one time. Long time seems to be 1500 for good part of those ladies.[/QUOTE]I will admit that I am not in the top 10% in app usage skills, but I have never seen tweets like these on Twitter or whatever it is called today. I'd like to ask a little more about how you located these juicy morsels. I wonder if they even consider to meet up with falangs men. I know that Telegram has pretty good following in Hong Kong, I wonder if the ladies advertise on Telegram as well. I need to find out how to search and find those groups.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881699]You do not think someone can love more than one person? If that was the case then one could not love a parent, kid, brother, friend all at the same time. Why not ask about the husband? Or is it that you prefer not to rock the boat? Hell, I have been introduced to husbands and other family members of chicks I was screwing before. You would be surprised how many people on earth do not think the same as you.[/QUOTE]She was after more money sir. I should have expanded on what I wrote. She asked me for a LOT of BAHT and in the same conversation said she 'loved me". She is 25. I am north of 50 fwiw.

Meanwhile, does anyone know these ladies. 30/40/50 years or so they say. May try someone closer to my age group for once.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2882088]I will admit that I am not in the top 10% in app usage skills, but I have never seen tweets like these on Twitter or whatever it is called today. I'd like to ask a little more about how you located these juicy morsels. I wonder if they even consider to meet up with falangs men. I know that Telegram has pretty good following in Hong Kong, I wonder if the ladies advertise on Telegram as well. I need to find out how to search and find those groups.[/QUOTE]Have you ever seen FIW Fans?

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/[/URL]

Thai guys are looking for younger women who haven't had babies or any / many tattoos. Some will really splurge, but typically they are paying a lot less than farang.

Your average 30 year old beer bar lady with tattoos and 2 kids at home would be lucky to get 500 Baht for a fuck from a Thai cab driver.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2882088]I will admit that I am not in the top 10% in app usage skills, but I have never seen tweets like these on Twitter or whatever it is called today. I'd like to ask a little more about how you located these juicy morsels. I wonder if they even consider to meet up with falangs men. I know that Telegram has pretty good following in Hong Kong, I wonder if the ladies advertise on Telegram as well. I need to find out how to search and find those groups.[/QUOTE]If you want to find them on twitter / X you have to search with the hash tags.

They'll use stuff like <EDIT:removed Thai characters, apparently they don't work here> which is "seeking work in Chonburi" -- change Chonburi for whatever town you're in.

Once you find the tweets, you can check prices. It will say something like "1500/2 <EDIT:removed Thai characters, apparently they don't work here>" which means 1500 Baht for two shots (water is the word they use in Thai). Many times it'll say "room included" which basically just means they're doing incall.

It doesn't really matter though. If you're not Thai and don't speak Thai you have very little chance of getting with any of them. If you do they will probably charge you a farang tax anyway or say your cock is too big.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2882039]Wow! According to everyone else, it isn't even high season, and Pattaya is a dead no man's land not worth visiting!

Uh-huh, right. Sure. Thanks for the report Explorer.

HNY to all.[/QUOTE]I looked for a Bolt taxi for the short trip to Catflaps during the daytime yesterday, the first try Bolt told me 22 minutes wait. In reality, that's forever, since no taxi driver is going to drive 22 minutes for a pickup.

The second try, Bolt was busy.

I have to go shopping today, I will try the Baht Bus, but most are jammed.

And that's in the day time.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2882113]Have you ever seen FIW Fans?

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/[/URL]

Thai guys are looking for younger women who haven't had babies or any / many tattoos. Some will really splurge, but typically they are paying a lot less than farang.

Your average 30 year old beer bar lady with tattoos and 2 kids at home would be lucky to get 500 Baht for a fuck from a Thai cab driver.[/QUOTE]Taxi 🚕 Man wouldn't go over 200 baht for beer bar lady you described. Hahaha.

That's why Beer Bar lady go after Farang. To my Amazement Beer Bar ladies do hook Farangs,. Think explorer.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2882060]I think you are confusing yourself with "Rich by birth" Indians to "recently got rich by IT or Investment" Indians who go to Pattaya because it is a quick weekend trip.

My friends from Bangalore and Delhi decide to go Bkk while drinking in a bar, book tickets on the spot on their mobile for next morning.

These guys are staying in houses bought by parents long back, so no high expenses, they have good salary and can work from anywhere.[/QUOTE]Majority of indians who go to Pattaya are not like you Described. I'm not against them or mymmarians.

When speaking of wealth I go by crazy Stat like medianFamily income.

Examples. Koreans who are known for Obliterating prices income is $66,666. Indians $666. Yes I'm talking yearly.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2882039]Wow! According to everyone else, it isn't even high season, and Pattaya is a dead no man's land not worth visiting!

Uh-huh, right. Sure. Thanks for the report Explorer.

HNY to all.[/QUOTE]20,000,000 tourist expected 2023.40,000,000 pre COVID.

Of course New Years is packed. Explorer makes it seem since Nov 1 it's been Packed. Not even close.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2882039]Wow! According to everyone else, it isn't even high season, and Pattaya is a dead no man's land not worth visiting!
Uh-huh, right. Sure. Thanks for the report Explorer.[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya last week, and can tell you that Explorer is right. Pattaya is indeed jammed.

Arrived in Pattaya 2 days ago. It's really busy, but I've never been to Pattaya in high season.

Beach Road has lots of venders along it, so not as many street girls, but that might change after Thai Holiday ends today and all the tourists go home.

There's a shit ton of couples walking around.

I was here last August and it was really nice and not crowded at all. Bars were full of girls and not that many men.

I walked into Skyfall on walking street around 11:30 PM last night and was quoted $2 K bar fine and the girl wanted $4 K for short time!

Now that is high! I sighed in front of the manager and she said after midnight bar fine dropped to $1. 5 K Baht and the girl held up her fingers and showed me 3 for $3 K Bah't for short time.

$4. 5 K BAHT FOR SHORT TIME IS STILL TOO HIGH!

My friend and I walked out.

As I walked back to my hotel on Beach Road I sent a chat to Noki Thai ([URL]https://www.pornhub.com/model/noki_thai[/URL]) who my friend and I met earlier that night near Tree Town.

I asked her to meet me at my hotel and she replied "I only do ST - $3 K ST and $5 K ST with anal".

She was at my hotel room in 10 minutes for $3 K ST.

Had fun and she said tomorrow I can come 2 times for $3 K, we'll see if I can get her lower than $3 K.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2882143]I was in Pattaya last week, and can tell you that Explorer is right. Pattaya is indeed jammed.[/QUOTE]Certain places yes. Soi 6 on Fri night. 4 bars in a row = zero punters, many others absolutely empty, I got "mugged" by a lady from Flirt / Wicked who usually ignores me. She had no L drinks that day (according to her story) before I bought her a few. She is usually a very popular lass. Tree town was dead except for Dannys at around 10 pm. WS was very busy at 11 pm onwards. Some Buakhao bars were packed. The Agogos I went to were a mixed bag, XS was mega busy, Sapphire so so. Stunners was meh quiet and Red Hot and Blue busy. Hard Rock Hotel was jammed. Now I'm at the Hilton which is fully booked.

Overall, it does NOT feel like a HUGE holiday season for the town and the bar environment. Maybe the posts about people going to Indian and Arab clubs in lieu of beer bars and girly bars as a trend will continue. But I still have fun every night and day here. Plenty of pussy action to be had STILL. The TF ladies seem to be either begging for business or are sticking solid on their prices. I got a lovely deaf lady for LT for 2 k. She's a 6/10 IMHO but very nice to be with. Pic attached is of a once very high priced lady who can be had ST for 1200 on the right day ATM.

YMMV.

If you are new to Pattaya just be forewarned that many girls I know are leaving either tomorrow or Tue for their homes to see family so there may be a bump in supply / demand pressures for ladies.

My Sapphire, XS and Soi 6 regs are already gone.

This is what it's about.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2882047]In these screenshots you can see the prices that is asked from thaicustomers. You can also compare the quality and the price. Do you really think thaimen pay 1500 for cum one time to a a 35 year old average looking girl? Or even a 25 year old average looking girl? I don't think so.

When it says "1000/1", that means cum one time. Long time seems to be 1500 for good part of those ladies.[/QUOTE]It would be far less noticeable much less difficult for me to pay 3,000 baht for what I want than for a Thai taxi driver to pay 800 baht for anything. But unless those girls are going to deliver no hassle Real Sex / DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP then I would feel ripped off for paying as much as 200 baht and whatever time I wasted researching and finding their hotel room for it.

I don't know, I have lived here for 12 years and have yet to see a Thai man over the age of 30 who looked like he could afford to skip a month of work hanging out with a lady I would want to fuck even for free. Especially in Pattaya. I mean, what with all this talk I have heard over the years about what high standards Thai men have vs us farang tourists and expats. LOL. But I can assure you they have turned their heads to check out my "dates" and girlfriends often enough.

But, hey, it's all good. As always, YMMV.

I would say tourism wasn't a massive hit The locals would hope for. Soi Bukhao was quiet last Friday night. Traffic was bad on 2nd Road. I've seen a more bigger Soi 6 crowds in years past. I would say at best the locals are getting 80% of the tourist numbers they are hoping for. Massage parlors weren't full and many businesses opening later than normal.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882155]This is what it's about.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you have had fun, and thanks very much for sharing the photos.

It just goes to show what we all keep saying when someone asks where the 8/9 girls are.

What is attractive to someone is not necessarily attractive to others.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2882149]
As I walked back to my hotel on Beach Road I sent a chat to Noki Thai ([URL]https://www.pornhub.com/model/noki_thai[/URL]) who my friend and I met earlier that night near Tree Town.
I asked her to meet me at my hotel and she replied "I only do ST - $3 K ST and $5 K ST with anal".
She was at my hotel room in 10 minutes for $3 K ST.
Had fun and she said tomorrow I can come 2 times for $3 K, we'll see if I can get her lower than $3 K.[/QUOTE]Glad to see you had some fun, and very likely she had all the moves and experience for a fun session.

But, given her videos she is looking quite on in years, mid 30's at least.

What age do you think she was?

Also, did you risk BBFS, with CIP?

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882155]This is what it's about.[/QUOTE]The first and second ladies from the top left of your post are two I would for certain like to be able locate in Feb. The first looks like dressed for a bar, but the room does not look like any ST room I've seen in Pattaya and I am sure she doesn't leave the bar dressed like that. !! The second one in the white is a delicious desert just waiting to be enjoyed. I am a bit envious.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882152]Certain places yes. Soi 6 on Fri night. 4 bars in a row = zero punters, many others absolutely empty, I got "mugged" by a lady from Flirt / Wicked who usually ignores me. She had no L drinks that day (according to her story) before I bought her a few. She is usually a very popular lass. Tree town was dead except for Dannys at around 10 pm. WS was very busy at 11 pm onwards. Some Buakhao bars were packed. The Agogos I went to were a mixed bag, XS was mega busy, Sapphire so so. Stunners was meh quiet and Red Hot and Blue busy. Hard Rock Hotel was jammed. Now I'm at the Hilton which is fully booked.

Overall, it does NOT feel like a HUGE holiday season for the town and the bar environment. Maybe the posts about people going to Indian and Arab clubs in lieu of beer bars and girly bars as a trend will continue. But I still have fun every night and day here. Plenty of pussy action to be had STILL. The TF ladies seem to be either begging for business or are sticking solid on their prices. I got a lovely deaf lady for LT for 2 k. She's a 6/10 IMHO but very nice to be with. Pic attached is of a once very high priced lady who can be had ST for 1200 on the right day ATM.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]I was there last week and was told by many girls how slow this season has been

On the other hand Kink was overflowing with customers on the second level.

I am in Bangkok now visited Soi Cowboy before getting sick. Outside of few places it was quite as well, but I was there early so it could be a timing thing. Will try to visit Nana tomorrow if I can get over the flu.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2882124]I looked for a Bolt taxi for the short trip to Catflaps during the daytime yesterday, the first try Bolt told me 22 minutes wait. In reality, that's forever, since no taxi driver is going to drive 22 minutes for a pickup.

The second try, Bolt was busy.

I have to go shopping today, I will try the Baht Bus, but most are jammed.

And that's in the day time.[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya Tuesday and Wednesday of this week and all bolt rides were the normal 2 - 4 minutes wait. I was staying on Soi 13 between Beach Road and 2nd road. Went to Kinnaree twice and walked to Catflaps both days.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2882205]I was in Pattaya Tuesday and Wednesday of this week and all bolt rides were the normal 2 - 4 minutes wait. I was staying on Soi 13 between Beach Road and 2nd road. Went to Kinnaree twice and walked to Catflaps both days.[/QUOTE]That's a small comfort for me. Its the middle of the afternoon, and all Bolt drivers are busy.

However, this doesn't mean that the bars are busy, just that there are a lot of people in Pattaya at the moment.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881560]Girl I've been seeing for almost a year (once a week) in BKK told me she loved me over Christmas. Wonder what her hubby thinks (she doesn't think I know about him and the 2 kids I help feed / clothe).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2881738]I find women in SEA so much looser with using the word 'love' than women in the West. My last visit to the Philippines was in 2007 but in the years I visited up to that time almost every other girl I banged told me they loved me.[/QUOTE]This made me chuckle. Putting aside any possible differences about concept of love, meaning of the word love or usage habits of it between farang, Thai and Filipina women, I would guess common feature of hookers everywhere is that 'love' stops about same time as flow of cash. Observation in Thailand is that this phenomenon seems to extend to 'girlfriends' and wives with fairly high correlation, with the rare exceptions validating the rule.

And if hookers believe for whatever reason that use of certain words could possibly increase flow of cash, either peak rate or longevity of the run rate / repeats, they sure use the those magic words as any marketer would.

Well for those guys who say its NOT busy. You are right.

For those guys who say it is busy. You are also right.

Let me explain.

* This high season is way worse than last year. It started later and before Christmas it was down to 50% compare to last year (source: several business owners).

* Since Christmas its a lot better. However as mentioned here several times. The demographics have changes. More couples / asian. Less "farang".

* NYE weekend is packed. Just check prices at agoda and you will see.

Real question is. This slow starting high season? How long will it last? Will it stay at this high till end of Chinese newyear (Feb. 10) or will everything collapse again after the 1st week of January? And then pickup early Feb. (because of Chinese new year)?

To belabor the point,. Yes I wrote it correct.

Red Planet after this busy weekend will go back to rates as low as $13 which when you add fees is $15.

People don't be Scared Pattaya needs all the Support it can get.

Despite what others have said, mainly 1 person. Tourist counts have been on the decline way before COVID ever happened.

Indian s are doing their part to save Pattaya but with them it's odd. On the ground Thais don't want them. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882155]This is what it's about.[/QUOTE]Just FYI, one of them you posted isn't a female but posts in the female section of TF. Easy mistake to make unless it wasn't a mistake. In that case, to each his own.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2882149]Arrived in Pattaya 2 days ago. It's really busy, but I've never been to Pattaya in high season.

Beach Road has lots of venders along it, so not as many street girls, but that might change after Thai Holiday ends today and all the tourists go home.

There's a shit ton of couples walking around.

I was here last August and it was really nice and not crowded at all. Bars were full of girls and not that many men.

I walked into Skyfall on walking street around 11:30 PM last night and was quoted $2 K bar fine and the girl wanted $4 K for short time!

Now that is high! I sighed in front of the manager and she said after midnight bar fine dropped to $1. 5 K Baht and the girl held up her fingers and showed me 3 for $3 K Bah't for short time.

$4. 5 K BAHT FOR SHORT TIME IS STILL TOO HIGH!

My friend and I walked out.

As I walked back to my hotel on Beach Road I sent a chat to Noki Thai ([URL]https://www.pornhub.com/model/noki_thai[/URL]) who my friend and I met earlier that night near Tree Town.

I asked her to meet me at my hotel and she replied "I only do ST - $3 K ST and $5 K ST with anal".

She was at my hotel room in 10 minutes for $3 K ST.

Had fun and she said tomorrow I can come 2 times for $3 K, we'll see if I can get her lower than $3 K.[/QUOTE]Old heads in Pattaya will tell you Nokia is Coconut Bar girl across from the Wave Hotel usually. BR prices 1000-1500ST depending on how you look. Will take it the ass for an extra +500. Her TF prices range 1500-2000 and same with anal +500. Had her many moons ago when she was plenty younger and had a bit more weight and just 1000. I skipped the offer of anal for an extra 1 K, but she went down to +500 when I declined. I told her let me think about it during sex. The moment, I flipped her on all fours, it would be a big NO for me. Had that tailbone dip that so many thin girls have and and her asshole gaped during the doggy funding of her pussy. It would be like me throning a hotdog down the hallway. Not sure how old she is now, 40's maybe, but her thinness concerns me. She keeps getting smaller and smaller when I see her loitering on BR. Anyways glad you had fun. Just a reminder to keep it safe. Thanks for the porn link. I didn't know she was on there. Actually, I've seen many of my previous Pattaya and BKK fucks on porn sites. I guess I can add them to the list of real porn stars I have banged in my lifetime. So far I am at 42.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882129]20,000,000 tourist expected 2023.40,000,000 pre COVID.

Of course New Years is packed. Explorer makes it seem since Nov 1 it's been Packed. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Using numbers quoted for all of Thailand to make a point about just Pattaya. Genius!

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2882188]The first and second ladies from the top left of your post are two I would for certain like to be able locate in Feb. The first looks like dressed for a bar, but the room does not look like any ST room I've seen in Pattaya and I am sure she doesn't leave the bar dressed like that. !! I am a bit envious.[/QUOTE]So you like men? Because that is a dude.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2882197]I was there last week and was told by many girls how slow this season has been[/QUOTE]Please someone name one year when a chick has said this high season is really busy; I have so many customers. I am willing to bet that has never happened.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2882219]This made me chuckle. Putting aside any possible differences about concept of love, meaning of the word love or usage habits of it between farang, Thai and Filipina women, I would guess common feature of hookers everywhere is that 'love' stops about same time as flow of cash.[/QUOTE]Well maybe that is what love is to them. Usually a common feature of love in the West is that it stops as soon as the other person has sex with someone else. Isn't that weird? That tells you that we choose who we love and that love is conditional, the same way that it would be for the hookers you discussed.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2882231]Just FYI, one of them you posted isn't a female but posts in the female section of TF. Easy mistake to make unless it wasn't a mistake. In that case, to each his own.[/QUOTE]More than one of them are not female. Does not seem like an easy mistake to my eyes. But like you said, to each his own.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2882238]Using numbers quoted for all of Thailand to make a point about just Pattaya. Genius![/QUOTE]Pattaya is not an unknown that is isolated. Out of every 100 arrivals to Thailand a certain number can be expected to go to Pattaya.

Major hotel operators know this number.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2882231]Just FYI, one of them you posted isn't a female but posts in the female section of TF. Easy mistake to make unless it wasn't a mistake. In that case, to each his own.[/QUOTE]Don't know which one you talk about but number 3 looks like she or he came out from a Frankenstein movie.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882129]20,000,000 tourist expected 2023.40,000,000 pre COVID.

Of course New Years is packed. Explorer makes it seem since Nov 1 it's been Packed. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Congratulations to Pattaya which is among the worlds top 20 most visited cities in 2023.

Kuala Lumpur surprised me from the list.

London, Singapore, Dubai is understandable as it is hub for big airlines.

BKK rules.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2882308]Congratulations to Pattaya which is among the worlds top 20 most visited cities in 2023.[/QUOTE]

Economy already looking bad in US and Europe.

Just had my annual ski trip to Colorado and it is 50% less busy than last year. (Surprisingly even in Colorado ski mountains, Indians are more than 40% of crowd).

I guess Pattaya will see less White and more Indians in 2024.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882229]To belabor the point,. Yes I wrote it correct.

Red Planet after this busy weekend will go back to rates as low as $13 which when you add fees is $15.

People don't be Scared Pattaya needs all the Support it can get.

Despite what others have said, mainly 1 person. Tourist counts have been on the decline way before COVID ever happened.

Indian s are doing their part to save Pattaya but with them it's odd. On the ground Thais don't want them. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2882188]The first and second ladies from the top left of your post are two I would for certain like to be able locate in Feb. The first looks like dressed for a bar, but the room does not look like any ST room I've seen in Pattaya and I am sure she doesn't leave the bar dressed like that. !! The second one in the white is a delicious desert just waiting to be enjoyed. I am a bit envious.[/QUOTE]The 1st lady, pic again below is Pandan from Queens Agogo. Also on TF. Trying to get her today but she may have gone on holidays home. She is a dream, but like most Agogo ladies, thinks she can milk the Baht.

2nd lady is Sugar. A bit hard to get on TF as she gets bombarded. I paid a pretty penny for her LT just once. Wouldn't repeat but she is hot.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2882298]Don't know which one you talk about but number 3 looks like she or he came out from a Frankenstein movie.[/QUOTE]Many guys don't care what their Chosen One looks like. This gentleman is a Prime example.

Just an observation I had day one setting foot in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2882321]Economy already looking bad in US and Europe.

Just had my annual ski trip to Colorado and it is 50% less busy than last year. (Surprisingly even in Colorado ski mountains, Indians are more than 40% of crowd).

I guess Pattaya will see less White and more Indians in 2024.[/QUOTE]Singapore Orchard Road Big Wig said Indian s are saving Orchard Road Post COVID.

SIN tourism is down too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2882249]Please someone name one year when a chick has said this high season is really busy; I have so many customers. I am willing to bet that has never happened.[/QUOTE]Seeing there were only three customers with more than ten girls made her very believable. Busy or not it doesn't really matter to me as I am done with Pattaya for the foreseeable future just stating my observation.

[QUOTE=GatorAk;2882365]Seeing there were only three customers with more than ten girls made her very believable.[/QUOTE]I am not saying she is lying. I am saying that whenever high season comes, sure more tourists come, but the amount of chicks that come with hopes of cashing in outweigh the uptick in tourists, still leaving them like you observed, way more pussy available than the amount of tourists can buy. Like someone else was saying, the hotel occupancy rate is a much better metric of "high season" than what comes out of the chicks' mouths or how many people are going in to bars.

Tourist bigwigs released report today. 27,000,000 tourists in 2023.

But an armcharir warrior 🪖 caught this. Report say 1. 9 million from Singapore. SIN population about 5 ,000,ooo. So we are to believe equivalent of 40% of SIN made it to Thailand in 2023.

Can someone go back and track Sin numbers before COVID. Half of them visiting Thailand is a Stretch.

But you never know. A guy spending $700 on a single girl in 6th Soi is also unbelievable.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882355]The 1st lady, pic again below is Pandan from Queens Agogo. Also on TF. Trying to get her today but she may have gone on holidays home. She is a dream, but like most Agogo ladies, thinks she can milk the Baht.

2nd lady is Sugar. A bit hard to get on TF as she gets bombarded. I paid a pretty penny for her LT just once. Wouldn't repeat but she is hot.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the update. I am not surprised either is in high demand. I can't blame a lady for maximizing her assets. At the end of the day we are all just a customer and for the most part they have forgotten that we were balls deep in them by the time we hit the door leaving. As long as someone is willing to pay, why not get all you can. As long as they are getting steady earning opportunities no need to lower the price, the effort they have to expend does not change. LOL. I will try to find then both on TF, and if not make a visit to Queens. In nothing more than just to get a up close look in real life. That would be worth a couple of lady drinks and maybe a short time visit.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882392]Tourist bigwigs released report today. 27,000,000 tourists in 2023.

But an armcharir warrior 🪖 caught this. Report say 1. 9 million from Singapore. SIN population about 5 ,000,ooo. So we are to believe equivalent of 40% of SIN made it to Thailand in 2023.

Can someone go back and track Sin numbers before COVID. Half of them visiting Thailand is a Stretch.

But you never know. A guy spending $700 on a single girl in 6th Soi is also unbelievable.[/QUOTE]Having lived in Singapore, this isn't an unreasonable number. The 1. 9 M is "visits," not distinct individuals. A great deal of business travel is from folks working for global companies with regional HQs and / or finance, accounting, marketing functions for APAC sited in Singapore for tax reasons. Lots of short biz trip from SIN to BKK or other Asian cities. Plus, the upscale resort areas of Thailand are where many Singaporeans go for family holidays. SQ alone runs a dozen SIN-BKK flights a day, plus there is Thai Air and the discount airlines.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882392]Tourist bigwigs released report today. 27,000,000 tourists in 2023.

But an armcharir warrior 🪖 caught this. Report say 1. 9 million from Singapore. SIN population about 5 ,000,ooo. So we are to believe equivalent of 40% of SIN made it to Thailand in 2023.

Can someone go back and track Sin numbers before COVID. Half of them visiting Thailand is a Stretch.

But you never know. A guy spending $700 on a single girl in 6th Soi is also unbelievable.[/QUOTE]You really need to understand math and statistics dude. I'm in Singapore. I visited Thailand 4 x this year and my wife 2 x. So between the 2 of us that's 6 visits. When you are a 2 HR $150 flight away its not a hard decision to make coming from a country with a GDP as high as Singapore has. On top of that are are thousands of Thai workers here who go back and forth as well as many with business interests. America and the West are not the center of the universe anymore. Sad but true. Get used to it.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882155]This is what it's about.[/QUOTE]Hello brother, sent you dm here please check.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2882429]You really need to understand math and statistics dude. I'm in Singapore. I visited Thailand 4 x this year and my wife 2 x. So between the 2 of us that's 6 visits. When you are a 2 HR $150 flight away its not a hard decision to make coming from a country with a GDP as high as Singapore has. On top of that are are thousands of Thai workers here who go back and forth as well as many with business interests. America and the West are not the center of the universe anymore. Sad but true. Get used to it.[/QUOTE]I get the one individual can make 20 trips. How many of you are there. Hahaha 🤣.

I'm hearing SIN aren't flush with disposable income either. They paying 10% esg tax. While the rest of the World has come to the conclusion it's a Scam.

I'm going to SIN tomorrow. Props on your immigration system. 3rd time in 12 months I'm impressed.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882355]The 1st lady, pic again below is Pandan from Queens Agogo. Also on TF. Trying to get her today but she may have gone on holidays home. She is a dream, but like most Agogo ladies, thinks she can milk the Baht.

2nd lady is Sugar. A bit hard to get on TF as she gets bombarded. I paid a pretty penny for her LT just once. Wouldn't repeat but she is hot.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Pandan is a Dream. She give Stellar Service. ?. You sure not HIM.

Dud research on SIN. You guys are right. Hahaha. Still not not enough to make Pattayas numbers go up though.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2882298]Don't know which one you talk about but number 3 looks like she or he came out from a Frankenstein movie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882355]The 1st lady, pic again below is Pandan from Queens Agogo. Also on TF. Trying to get her today but she may have gone on holidays home. She is a dream, but like most Agogo ladies, thinks she can milk the Baht.

2nd lady is Sugar. A bit hard to get on TF as she gets bombarded. I paid a pretty penny for her LT just once. Wouldn't repeat but she is hot.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]You mean she played the damsel in distress? Why not share the TF IDs so Paolo can get a closer look at those profiles. It's all public info anyways.

What really need to be realized is all the so call leaders of this country lie and distort to their advantage. Don't take the numbers serious.

By.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882448]I get the one individual can make 20 trips. How many of you are there. Hahaha 🤣.
.[/QUOTE]You think like a western guy. New tourist. New demographics.

Indian, korean, Chinese. They are all a few HOURS from Thailand. The two week millionaire (aka farang) is death and is being replaced with the weekend-millionaire. Koreans who go several times a year and piss away a shit load of cash.

So tourist numbers go up (gross) however the question is when the unique tourist will surpass 2019.

Does each bar / club in Soi 6 have their own room on site to have sex with one of the girls or can you only take them to your hotel room?

The day after New Years Eve was surprisingly dead, with a lot of bars closed, at least on Soi Chaiyapoon.

Where the bars were open, lots of ladies, not so many customers.

Maggie Mays was strangely quiet, with many ladies gone. Barfined for the holidays. I guess I will soon be guilty of that, as I am taking a MM to Japan for a few days.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882448]I get the one individual can make 20 trips. How many of you are there. Hahaha 🤣.

I'm hearing SIN aren't flush with disposable income either. They paying 10% esg tax. While the rest of the World has come to the conclusion it's a Scam.

I'm going to SIN tomorrow. Props on your immigration system. 3rd time in 12 months I'm impressed.[/QUOTE]Again, check your facts. If you are referring to GST it is 9%. But Singapore has one of the lowest income tax rates with a max rate of 15% and no tax on capital gains and dividends. Most locals pay well below 10%. Plus locals get super subsidized housing. So in fact there is a good amount of disposable income here. Especially amongst young people who live with their parents until they get married, sometimes well into their 30's. THey have no actual expenses so even a $4 K per month salary with low taxes allows a lot of shopping trips to Bangkok.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2882593]Does each bar / club in Soi 6 have their own room on site to have sex with one of the girls or can you only take them to your hotel room?[/QUOTE]Most have onsite rooms as an option.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2882606]Again, check your facts. If you are referring to GST it is 9%. But Singapore has one of the lowest income tax rates with a max rate of 15% and no tax on capital gains and dividends. Most locals pay well below 10%. Plus locals get super subsidized housing. So in fact there is a good amount of disposable income here. Especially amongst young people who live with their parents until they get married, sometimes well into their 30's. THey have no actual expenses so even a $4 K per month salary with low taxes allows a lot of shopping trips to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the lessons Bro.

Unlike Thailand your Public Bus 🚌 are very clean. 😂.

I'm hearing after China gets Taiwan next up is Singapore. China wants riches not Khrap Country s like Myanmar.

I hope you paying your NATO fees. Gnomesaying.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2882593]Does each bar / club in Soi 6 have their own room on site to have sex with one of the girls or can you only take them to your hotel room?[/QUOTE]Rooms on site, always.

[QUOTE=XXL;2882641]Rooms on site, always.[/QUOTE]It's getting confusing because some guys said some bars with all the girls in front don't have "short time rooms. " I guess I have to get used to conflicting info.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2882664]It's getting confusing because some guys said some bars with all the girls in front don't have "short time rooms. " I guess I have to get used to conflicting info.[/QUOTE]Maybe 1 bar without rooms. The one with streap-tease upstairs. Close to 2nd road, left-hand side when facing towards Beach road.

Happy New Year.

When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?

See some of you end of the month, will be my first time in high season, looking forward to it.

FA.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21[/QUOTE]There are no Tuk Tuks in Pattaya, but try Bolt. Maybe I am not understanding. You are looking to pay less than 50 baht to get to your hotel?

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]Happy New Year.

When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?

See some of you end of the month, will be my first time in high season, looking forward to it.

FA.[/QUOTE]High Season finished yesterday. Hahaha.

You might get a Blip of a High Season over Chinese New Year.

50 Baht is Fair. Moto guys won't go to Central for 50.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]Happy New Year.

When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?

See some of you end of the month, will be my first time in high season, looking forward to it.

FA.[/QUOTE]The Jomtien bus stops at Pattaya North Road, on Sukhumvit, as well as near Pattaya Tai.

Normally, I would advise taking a Bolt taxi, but they are very busy now.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]
When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?[/QUOTE]I suppose you mean the Baht bus? Tuk tuks are not so common in Pattaya. The Baht busses charge 50 Baht to Beach Road indeed, and have done so for many years in a row already. They are not mafia, it's the official price (as far as anything is really official in Thailand).
Alternatively you can order a Bolt taxi. Very convenient, air conditioned, and only a bit more expensive.

Bell Travel Service is going from Suvarnabhumi Airport to the same Northern Bus Station. And from there they take you in minivans to your hotel.
[URL]https://belltravelservice.com[/URL]

And Roong Reuang Coach is going from the airport to Jomtien Beach.
[URL]https://airportpattayabus.com[/URL]

Although actually they are the same company, I believe.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]Happy New Year.

When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?

See some of you end of the month, will be my first time in high season, looking forward to it.

FA.[/QUOTE]Are you really complaining about an additional 50 baht from the bus station? Those trucks drop people off anywhere on BR or 2nd Rd, but they have to fill up with customers first. Usually takes 15-20 minutes depending on how many people from the buses take them. So you are talking about a $7 trip from Bangkok to Pattaya and still trying to save more money? If that's the case, there is a nice air conditioned invisible bus that picks up people from the same station. Just stand towards the front and wait for it. Bring some water and make sure you don't miss it.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]Happy New Year.

When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station. Only way getting there and from seems a TukTuk mafia charging 50 Bath to Beach road or walking from or to Terminal 21 (not advisable IMHO). Is there any alternative or does the Bus from Suvarnaburmi Airport stop at a better place (a YT video claimed near Terminal 21 before heading to Jomtiem Beach)? Strangely I found no info on this. Maybe I am overlooking something?

See some of you end of the month, will be my first time in high season, looking forward to it.

FA.[/QUOTE]According to [URL]https://triplyzer.com/thailand/suvarnabhumi-airport-pattaya-bus/[/URL] the bus stops as follows.

Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya bus stops.

389 bus has following bus stops.

Stop 1: North Pattaya Road.

Stop 2: Central Pattaya Road.

Stop 3; Big see on South Pattaya Road.

Last stop: Thapphraya Bus Station, Jomtien.

I'm intrigued.

Pattaya official s calling for 27,000,000 tourists in 2024. Per ASEAN News.

Are there that many welfare Singaporeans available. Hahaha.

Let's analyze.

We have both extreme s recently on Board.

1 Forty drinks guy.

2. 50 baht bus guy.

Teach Moment. The answer s to the meaning of life lie somewhere in the MIDDLE.

In Fairness I do see People balk at the 50 baht. Not unusual.

Amazing Thailand, to each his own but complaining about having to pay 50 baht. I looking forward to reading your experience here.

LOL, coffee drinker? Instant?

I went to PP Body Massage around 4 pm yesterday. I passed 4 asian guys who were leaving as I was going in and I was the only customer when I got inside. There were about 12 women in the fishbowl, all aged late 20's+ and thick in the beam. Don't get me wrong, most were well made up and attractive but they were a bit older and thicker than I would usually want. There are 3 colours and I chose a blue at 2700 Bht.

The room was big and very good. Usual layout of big bath, wet area for soapy mattress and a big bed. Started with a light massage on the bed as the bath was filling then on to bath, soapy body slide on inflatable mattress, shower then on to bed for CBJ (no convincing her on BBBJ) and boom boom.

Overall the lady was good fun, spoke some English and tried her best to give a good service. On the way out there were less women in the fishbowl and none were any improvement on when I arrived. There looked to be one customer though he was looking at his phone, not the fishbowl.

Would I repeat at PP. No; ladies too old and big and CBJ.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2882872]Happy New Year.
When I went from BKK Ekkamai to Pat last time ended up at North Bus Station…………….
FA.[/QUOTE]Plenty of door to door options at not unreasonable prices in a car to yourself (e. G. Angie Taxi 1200 Bht from BKK, 1500 Bht from downtown) and a lot faster than the bus. I don't know where you are coming from but I bet it has cost you a fair bit to get here and is the money saved getting the bus to Pattaya worth it considering what you are probably going to blow your money on when you get there?

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2882879]50 Baht is Fair. Moto guys won't go to Central for 50.[/QUOTE]Yes moto guys were willing to go for 60 not so long back, last times I came it was more like 80.

They save us the waiting time when the baht bus is not filled yet.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883002]Amazing Thailand, to each his own but complaining about having to pay 50 baht. I looking forward to reading your experience here.

LOL, coffee drinker? Instant?[/QUOTE]Really?

I understand that life is tough and there is not much fun so use the Board to belittle people. Maybe a quick look at one's profile and posting history before declaring people stingy and not knowledgeable?

There is a standard price and there is availability. If you know the price you can choose to accept it or not. Purpose of this Board is exchanging information. Well it should be and it used to be. When I arrived last time it seemed there was no bath bus but with another farang managed to get a baht bus on the street (20 baht to Beach Road). On the way back I could not find a single baht bus in about 90 minutes and no other transportation so I walked. Trying to avoid this as it was not pleasant hence the question. There should be a baht bus route on the north street but I did not spot any. That is why I asked after doing some research and could not find the answer. I could go to Jomtiem and take a bus back to Beach Road but then I need to get out to the airport.

Not sure why any of this is inappropriate questioning. And I only drink handcrafted espresso and cappuccino, preferably from my own manual machine, beans from a private roaster. Not sure why that matters though. A reliable private car service might also work but I stay close to Ekkamai so not that big of a time saver doing that. If anyone has a good driver feel free to pm me.

And yes I will report, I always do. Just check my profile.

FA.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2883123]On the way back I could not find a single baht bus in about 90 minutes and no other transportation so I walked. Trying to avoid this as it was not pleasant hence the question. There should be a baht bus route on the north street but I did not spot any.

FA.[/QUOTE]It seems that there is no baht bus to go from the roundabout to north Pattaya station anymore, at least I didn't see any during my last three visits.

Personally I don't bother anymore with the baht bus when I want to go back to the bus station. I take the moto taxi, usually from Buakhao and it costs around 80 every time.

I seriously don't understand why someone would take a BUS from BKK to Pattaya?

There is a taxi for around 1200. So you save maybe 1100 THB? (30 euro).

Taxi is faster, drops you off at the hotel. Or picks you up there and drops you at the airport whatever.

Why on earth would someone try to save 1100 THB? You probably piss away too much cash during your holiday anyway?

Parking my car at the airport in my home country is 6 K (THB). THAT feels like a waste of money.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2883214]I seriously don't understand why someone would take a BUS from BKK to Pattaya?

There is a taxi for around 1200. So you save maybe 1100 THB? (30 euro).

Taxi is faster, drops you off at the hotel. Or picks you up there and drops you at the airport whatever.

Why on earth would someone try to save 1100 THB? You probably piss away too much cash during your holiday anyway?

Parking my car at the airport in my home country is 6 K (THB). THAT feels like a waste of money.[/QUOTE]I use namladydrivers dot com. I think it is 1200 B. They are good.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2883214]I seriously don't understand why someone would take a BUS from BKK to Pattaya? There is a taxi for around 1200. So you save maybe 1100 THB? (30 euro).

Taxi is faster, drops you off at the hotel. Or picks you up there and drops you at the airport whatever. Why on earth would someone try to save 1100 THB?[/QUOTE]Actually there is a taxi for 1000. If the bus is ready to leave then the bus takes about the same time as a taxi. Add maybe 10 more minutes to get from the bus station to where you are staying. 1000 baht is what I pay chicks for all night. 1100 baht is 1/4 of my rent. Why wouldn't I try to save it if I am saving virtually no time or there is not something pressing I need to do when I arrive?

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2883123]Really?

I understand that life is tough and there is not much fun so use the Board to belittle people. Maybe a quick look at one's profile and posting history before declaring people stingy and not knowledgeable?

There is a standard price and there is availability. If you know the price you can choose to accept it or not. Purpose of this Board is exchanging information. Well it should be and it used to be. When I arrived last time it seemed there was no bath bus but with another farang managed to get a baht bus on the street (20 baht to Beach Road). On the way back I could not find a single baht bus in about 90 minutes and no other transportation so I walked. Trying to avoid this as it was not pleasant hence the question. There should be a baht bus route on the north street but I did not spot any. That is why I asked after doing some research and could not find the answer. I could go to Jomtiem and take a bus back to Beach Road but then I need to get out to the airport.

Not sure why any of this is inappropriate questioning. And I only drink handcrafted espresso and cappuccino, preferably from my own manual machine, beans from a private roaster. Not sure why that matters though. A reliable private car service might also work but I stay close to Ekkamai so not that big of a time saver doing that. If anyone has a good driver feel free to pm me.

And yes I will report, I always do. Just check my profile.

FA.[/QUOTE]I could use some choice words after reading your ridicules post as to why you did what you did and said.

You original post " 50 baht tsxi mafia ".

I have no problem taking the bus, I do it all the time from North Pattaya to BKk, I park my bike for 40 baht for the day been taking the bus for close to 20 years get to udom Suk, hop off walk up take the BTS instead of sitting in traffic. The best part being a people watch you meet interesting people.

In spite of your ignorance you seem to have done some research but can't seem to distinguish that from common sense what I consider a time and place for everything.

You get off the bus then refuse the ride cause it is 50 baht it is being charged by the so call Taxi Mafia! Seeming knowing there isn't an alternative but to walk at the same time knowing it is hot and too far.

I remember a time when I was in BKK 80's, before the BTS and there were mainly Tuk Tuk, I was around the US Embassy area needed to get back to Nana, Tuk Tuk stop quoted me 90 baht I said no, so ended up walking by the time I got back I was soaked and tired after I took shower I said to myself " you stupid MF.

Years ago I had a good friend move to Pattaya on the darkside helping to get him to settle in across from his resort was a market needed to buy a thai broom cost in general 40 baht he decline started to walk I said where you going said down the soi in hot sun cause he felt he could get one for 35 baht. I pull out 40 baht and purchased It for him and said weclome to Thailand.

It really isn't so much being cheap it comes down to human nature that we all have a moment of Stupid in your case don't let it consume you.

The coffee thing you original remarks comrs across as cheap you responded to me but there are a number of responsives that think the same. Jokingly that you drink coffee but to save here will drink instant. In fact your remark as to how you drink your coffee and prepare confirms my impression of the person you are and what I said Yet you refuse the ride for a mere 50 baht!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883268]I could use some choice words after reading your ridicules post as to why you did what you did and said.

You original post " 50 baht tsxi mafia ".

I have no problem taking the bus, I do it all the time from North Pattaya to BKk, I park my bike for 40 baht for the day been taking the bus for close to 20 years get to udom Suk, hop off walk up take the BTS instead of sitting in traffic. The best part being a people watch you meet interesting people.

In spite of your ignorance you seem to have done some research but can't seem to distinguish that from common sense what I consider a time and place for everything.

You get off the bus then refuse the ride cause it is 50 baht it is being charged by the so call Taxi Mafia! Seeming knowing there isn't an alternative but to walk at the same time knowing it is hot and too far.[/QUOTE]He thinks there is a 10 baht bus that drives along the route of the North Pattaya Bus Station that will go to the roundabout at Terminal 21 or straight to Beach Road. So worse case scenario, they make him get off and switch 10 baht buses at Terminal 21 and he has to pay 20 baht. So he saves "30 baht" by not having to pay the taxi mafia 50 that from the bus station. 30 baht is more than enough for a off the cart watermelon on a hot day, so let's give him a break. As for the other guy who said who said we should take taxis and who cares about savings 1100 baht, that is full blown sex plus taxi or tip or food for 3 days. That there is nonsense. Those who are long stay in Pattaya have nothing but time to relax and take it easy. So if the bus takes 30 minutes longer, oh well. If we have to wait for a girl to get off work from dancing and save 3000 baht, oh well. All we have is the, no rush.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2882899]Are you really complaining about an additional 50 baht from the bus station? Those trucks drop people off anywhere on BR or 2nd Rd, but they have to fill up with customers first. Usually takes 15-20 minutes depending on how many people from the buses take them ...[/QUOTE]That's the bad part. They wait till they fill up to pile people against one another like sardines, with luggage up to the roof and below your feet. If only they would be 10% less greedy and take one passenger less. They only stop short of shoving passengers onto the roof. And yes, there is a taxi mafia. I once called a Bolt near the bus station, he called me back asking me to walk some distance from the bus station, implying he couldn't possibly stop too near the station. This was a hassle for me because I was carrying a suitcase.

Ah. I see my old friend Pop in that picture set. Bottom. Second from the right. Sweet lady. Met her pre covid in Billboard in Bangkok. Where is she working in Pattaya? She often finds boyfriends and long term support. But it looks her most recent boyfriend and her broke up somewhat recently and she is back working.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882155]This is what it's about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2883271]He thinks there is a 10 baht bus that drives along the route of the North Pattaya Bus Station that will go to the roundabout at Terminal 21 or straight to Beach Road. So worse case scenario, they make him get off and switch 10 baht buses at Terminal 21 and he has to pay 20 baht. So he saves "30 baht" by not having to pay the taxi mafia 50 that from the bus station. 30 baht is more than enough for a off the cart watermelon on a hot day, so let's give him a break. As for the other guy who said who said we should take taxis and who cares about savings 1100 baht, that is full blown sex plus taxi or tip or food for 3 days. That there is nonsense. Those who are long stay in Pattaya have nothing but time to relax and take it easy. So if the bus takes 30 minutes longer, oh well. If we have to wait for a girl to get off work from dancing and save 3000 baht, oh well. All we have is the, no rus.[/QUOTE]It never cease to surprise me the human brain, let be clear I've not said anything about being cheap or anything about a person taking the bus. In fact one of my better experience has been riding the bus between Ekaimai and Pattaya North, years ago I was riding back and forth to BKk to play in a Basketball league aftet each game I rush to the station to catch the lsdt bus, one time assigned next to a Flipino girl working in Pattaya went to see her parents in BKk, talking later she fell aleep and her head tip on to my right shoulder if it was a guy smack LOL, when she woke up near the station she was concern about getting a taxi etc to her apartment it ended up I had to go by her place to get home. I made the offer and told her think about it and let me know at the station she took the offer. We ended up exchanging no. Thought nothing of it since I was older she called a week later said thanks ask me what I was doing we became friends went to eat a number of time. Never gave it a second though that aftet a edhile I would be hitting it.

With the 50 baht I wasnt saying he was cheap but in fact s time asnd place to put or stand your position I gave him two example of such I felt when someone or place they got your balls you suck it up and pay your dues. I stated this a number of times it had been talk and stated also by other.

You got to have pussy for example she throws out 1500, your research it should be 1200, it is 2: am bedtime LOL, you have walked Kilo miss all night out nowhere. Just do it in my opinion been in situatlon in the past and in the future.

Give him a break! See out of a number of responsed he got including mines very similar he decide to check profiled daw and thought I was the easier target because I don't post normally like the rest so and accused me of being on the board just to belittle othersMaybe.

If he can't pay the 50 baht yet spend time in buying great equipment and top quality beans to make his coffee but pasd up at 50 baht ride cause he felt it should be cheaper he was being taken by the mafia LOL.

Maybe next time he comes give me a advance notice I rent him one of the folding bikes I store for people or one of the electic scooters. LOL.

He brags he is going to write reports because he always does but you will see he will spend but for whatever reason he has them passed up a ride becasuse he was bein over charge 30-40 Baht.

I think the break that is needed he suck it up and take whatever remarks come.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2883271]He thinks there is a 10 baht bus that drives along the route of the North Pattaya Bus Station that will go to the roundabout at Terminal 21 or straight to Beach Road. So worse case scenario, they make him get off and switch 10 baht buses at Terminal 21 and he has to pay 20 baht. So he saves "30 baht" by not having to pay the taxi mafia 50 that from the bus station.[/QUOTE]Even before, that strategy was fucked up, I tried it and it never worked well for me in the past. Now I always use the service of the people staying in the bus station.

Nowadays there is very few baht bus on that road, most probably because they changed the signage of the road. The baht bus cannot go straight from the bus station to the roundabout using north pattaya road and they cannot make the you-turn on Sukhumvit road too, they've got to use small sois from the back of the bus station which means they can get very few customers when they go that side of Pattaya.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2883214]I seriously don't understand why someone would take a BUS from BKK to Pattaya?

There is a taxi for around 1200. So you save maybe 1100 THB? (30 euro).

Taxi is faster, drops you off at the hotel. Or picks you up there and drops you at the airport whatever.

Why on earth would someone try to save 1100 THB? You probably piss away too much cash during your holiday anyway?

Parking my car at the airport in my home country is 6 K (THB). THAT feels like a waste of money.[/QUOTE]Regardless of having the habit of thinking value of stuff before throwing money around (some could even call stingy.), after trying the bus couple of times just out of interest of knowing how it works many many years ago, came to same conclusion myself. First time was lucky bus was just about to leave and all waiting could fit in. Second time less lucky as had to wait quite some time to get to bus.

After traveling 15+ hours, without proper sleep, I really value someone waiting me at airport when I get out with my bags, taking the stuff to taxi and drive me home while trying to keep awake on the back seat, without need to think too much. Worth every baht after long flights. And I recall paying the 1000 baht to Pattaya 15+ years go, so taking the overall inflation into consideration it is decent deal even at 1200. Just compare it how much girl's rates have inflated from those times.

Bus maybe would be okay after short local flight when returning from trip not being tired / jetlagged and not in a hurry, just taking the bus ride as an experience.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2883214]I seriously don't understand why someone would take a BUS from BKK to Pattaya?
There is a taxi for around 1200. So you save maybe 1100 THB? (30 euro).
[/QUOTE]Safety reasons. I feel much safer in a bus than in a taxi with some crazy Thai driver.
For a short distance in Bangkok or Pattaya I can live with that (literally, so far).
But for long distances I prefer the bus. I only take a taxi if the bus is not running, like late at night for example.

And regarding the money: you have to get back also, at some point, so you save approx. 60 Euro. I rather spent that on a nice girl, or a good hotel.
But that's just me. We all make our own choices.

It is hard to understand if that was the case! The issue at hand posted was taking the BUS FROM EKAIMAI TO PATTAYA NUA, THE BUS STATION then walking around the Soi Pattaya Nua in front of Makro then waiting for the SONGTHAW not an actual bus. The post isn't about a person taking a long flight!

Correct! Whenever I arrive after a long flight, especially from the West Coast to Bangkok, I walk downstairs to the Taxi area go to the Q kiosk, and push in the size of the taxi I need. Each time I arrived at the taxi indicated without a doubt get the head-toe review which whatever their reason the price is always higher. I just tell them the price and reason take it or leave it not their price but it is close and reasonable. They give me a long story lecture I walk even if they price it down thereafter I say nothing go back to the Q and get another number end of the story. I've only once had to do that.

The end after a long flight I don't give them a time of the day! For late flights I go into Nana taxi they give me a price and I give them a price always with a smile is it what I want majority of the time no but close. My goal is to get into Nana as quickly as possible check in the hotel shower out the door to roam around.

Everything I've said is not being cheap but a time and place for everything what is more important or one just has to have it all their way!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2883130]It seems that there is no baht bus to go from the roundabout to north Pattaya station anymore, at least I didn't see any during my last three visits.[/QUOTE]I have noticed the same, but that was during the pandemic.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2883130]
Personally I don't bother anymore with the baht bus when I want to go back to the bus station. I take the moto taxi, usually from Buakhao and it costs around 80 every time.[/QUOTE]A Bolt taxi (car) costs about the same from Buakhao. More convenient and safer if you have luggage.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2883371]Safety reasons. I feel much safer in a bus than in a taxi with some crazy Thai driver.
...[/QUOTE]Is a bus safer? A bus it more likely to topple over to a sheer drop on from of the suspended motorways. The concrete parapets are too low to prevent a bus from falling over.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2883371]Safety reasons. I feel much safer in a bus than in a taxi with some crazy Thai driver.
For a short distance in Bangkok or Pattaya I can live with that (literally, so far).
But for long distances I prefer the bus. I only take a taxi if the bus is not running, like late at night for example.

[/QUOTE]I also think safety is a good reason to prefer bus for longer rides. No guarantees of course, but bus companies will usually have at least two staff on board, the driver and somebody else next to him (usually a woman checking tickets and handing out water). Since the other person usually doesn't want to die because the driver fell asleep, she also has some motivation to keep the driver engaged / awake. Possibly the bus company will have some regulations regarding rest / working hours too, as well as kicking out drivers who crash the bus too often.

Contrast that with a sole taxi driver half asleep at the end of his shift when you ask him to take you on a one and a half hour drive to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=XXL;2883386]Is a bus safer? A bus it more likely to topple over to a sheer drop on from of the suspended motorways. The concrete parapets are too low to prevent a bus from falling over.[/QUOTE]How frequently do you think that happens compared to plain collisions between vehicles? In a collision with another vehicle, where do you prefer to be, in a bus, car, or motorbike?

[QUOTE=XXL;2883386]Is a bus safer? A bus it more likely to topple over to a sheer drop on from of the suspended motorways. The concrete parapets are too low to prevent a bus from falling over.[/QUOTE]I doubt that it will topple over easily, because the center of gravity of a bus is at the bottom. But I'm not an expert on this subject. Did it ever happen?

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2883389]How frequently do you think that happens compared to plain collisions between vehicles? In a collision with another vehicle, where do you prefer to be, in a bus, car, or motorbike?[/QUOTE]That is like paper scissors rock. I would rather be in a bus with a seat belt on if I want to have the most protection.

Several weeks ago or was it months ago I saw several comments about Gentlemen Clubs in the Pattaya area. Some were older ones and several appeared to be fairly new. I also saw some YouTube on same subject. However, a review of postings dating back at 22 pages to Mid December does not yield much info. I have been to the CamelToe GC though frankly not impressed so you can skip a review on that one.

I am planning for a visit next week from Bangkok and these clubs intrigue me. I am not too high on the go-go's or night clubs and especially the beer bars as I drink very little alcohol though No problem laying out some baht for the girls.

Can someone provide a recent update on the best places to go and in particular where one can find some raunchy hands on action?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2883411]Several weeks ago or was it months ago I saw several comments about Gentlemen Clubs in the Pattaya area. Some were older ones and several appeared to be fairly new. I also saw some YouTube on same subject. However, a review of postings dating back at 22 pages to Mid December does not yield much info. I have been to the CamelToe GC though frankly not impressed so you can skip a review on that one.

I am planning for a visit next week from Bangkok and these clubs intrigue me. I am not too high on the go-go's or night clubs and especially the beer bars as I drink very little alcohol though No problem laying out some baht for the girls.

Can someone provide a recent update on the best places to go and in particular where one can find some raunchy hands on action?[/QUOTE]If you go back a few pages someone maybe it was American Expat? Did a list.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2882153]If you are new to Pattaya just be forewarned that many girls I know are leaving either tomorrow or Tue for their homes to see family so there may be a bump in supply / demand pressures for ladies.

My Sapphire, XS and Soi 6 regs are already gone.[/QUOTE]Could someone please let me know how would the situation be early next week? How long do the girls go home for? I've already planned my trip.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2883394]I doubt that it will topple over easily, because the center of gravity of a bus is at the bottom. But I'm not an expert on this subject. Did it ever happen?[/QUOTE]I do not know about the motorways, but it used to happen all the time going up to the Pattaya Lookout. They had signs that said no buses, but I guess they could not help themselves. Now they have put up a fancy guard rail, but I have not seen any buses attempt that climb since.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2883411]Several weeks ago or was it months ago I saw several comments about Gentlemen Clubs in the Pattaya area. Some were older ones and several appeared to be fairly new. I also saw some YouTube on same subject. However, a review of postings dating back at 22 pages to Mid December does not yield much info. I have been to the CamelToe GC though frankly not impressed so you can skip a review on that one.

I am planning for a visit next week from Bangkok and these clubs intrigue me. I am not too high on the go-go's or night clubs and especially the beer bars as I drink very little alcohol though No problem laying out some baht for the girls.

Can someone provide a recent update on the best places to go and in particular where one can find some raunchy hands on action?[/QUOTE]Clubfate / Catflaps.

Pirats (soi bangkot 8).

Or go Castle if you have the guts. .

Those I have top of mind.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883308]It never cease to surprise me the human brain, let be clear I've not said anything about being cheap or anything about a person taking the bus. In fact one of my better experience has been riding the bus between Ekaimai and Pattaya North, years ago I was riding back and forth to BKk to play in a Basketball league aftet each game I rush to the station to catch the lsdt bus, one time assigned next to a Flipino girl working in Pattaya went to see her parents in BKk, talking later she fell aleep and her head tip on to my right shoulder if it was a guy smack LOL, when she woke up near the station she was concern about getting a taxi etc to her apartment it ended up I had to go by her place to get home. I made the offer and told her think about it and let me know at the station she took the offer. We ended up exchanging no. Thought nothing of it since I was older she called a week later said thanks ask me what I was doing we became friends went to eat a number of time. Never gave it a second though that aftet a edhile I would be hitting it.

With the 50 baht I wasnt saying he was cheap but in fact s time asnd place to put or stand your position I gave him two example of such I felt when someone or place they got your balls you suck it up and pay your dues. I stated this a number of times it had been talk and stated also by other.

You got to have pussy for example she throws out 1500, your research it should be 1200, it is 2: am bedtime LOL, you have walked Kilo miss all night out nowhere. Just do it in my opinion been in situatlon in the past and in the future.

Give him a break! See out of a number of responsed he got including mines very similar he decide to check profiled daw and thought I was the easier target because I don't post normally like the rest so and accused me of being on the board just to belittle othersMaybe.

If he can't pay the 50 baht yet spend time in buying great equipment and top quality beans to make his coffee but pasd up at 50 baht ride cause he felt it should be cheaper he was being taken by the mafia LOL.

Maybe next time he comes give me a advance notice I rent him one of the folding bikes I store for people or one of the electic scooters. LOL.

He brags he is going to write reports because he always does but you will see he will spend but for whatever reason he has them passed up a ride becasuse he was bein over charge 30-40 Baht.

I think the break that is needed he suck it up and take whatever remarks come.[/QUOTE]Little not so Big man.

No clue what your problem is but you sure have lots of them. I got my answer but if you prefer to just act the way you do feel free to do so. Just stick a little to the facts even it seems you have trouble reading what others say when your ego feels bruised (which seemingly takes little). I do not need to brag about anything, I described a situation and asked for advice, which I believe affects more people. So the clarification is of some general interest. When I came to this Board a long time ago it was a community of likeminded people trying to be helpful. Most contributed in what they could. Sure there were different opinions and discussions but there was always a certain respect. I am still friends and in contact with many people even we have completely different views on many things. That is what made this place work. Now there is less and less information and more of the type of behaviour you seem to enjoy so much. Makes it easy for me. Ignore the non contributing but thank the rest for helping.

Thanks guys! Enjoy your time and do not wait for the Baht bus on the North route. It seems it is gone, so either use private transportation or go to Jomtiem. BTW the busses from Ekkamai are way more frequent than from the airport, apparently they also have minibuses there that are even more often going.

Happy 2024 to all of you.

FA.

Getting back to business, it is so busy in Pattaya that I bailed.

Currently in Japan with a lady from Maggie Mays.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2883547]Little not so Big man.

No clue what your problem is but you sure have lots of them. I got my answer but if you prefer to just act the way you do feel free to do so. Just stick a little to the facts even it seems you have trouble reading what others say when your ego feels bruised (which seemingly takes little). I do not need to brag about anything, I described a situation and asked for advice, which I believe affects more people. So the clarification is of some general interest. When I came to this Board a long time ago it was a community of likeminded people trying to be helpful. Most contributed in what they could. Sure there were different opinions and discussions but there was always a certain respect. I am still friends and in contact with many people even we have completely different views on many things. That is what made this place work. Now there is less and less information and more of the type of behaviour you seem to enjoy so much. Makes it easy for me. Ignore the non contributing but thank the rest for helping.

Thanks guys! Enjoy your time and do not wait for the Baht bus on the North route. It seems it is gone, so either use private transportation or go to Jomtiem. BTW the busses from Ekkamai are way more frequent than from the airport, apparently they also have minibuses there that are even more often going.

Happy 2024 to all of you.

FA.[/QUOTE]That is last word but you opened the can of worms bandido!

I made a simple statement nothing else even that went over your head it was no different than a numbers of others. But you took it as a personal attack decide to look up my profile and decide I write or post to belittle others.

You use the excuse that this board is to provide exchange information to justify your stupid comment but when you don't get all positive you whine with a long post ad to why you stupidly didn't take a 50 baht ride to get to where you needed to go. Yet you will spend a hell of lot of time buying and making coffee anf trying to put blame on me for your poor decision in my opinion.

Your priority is basically all fucking wrong. That is the point you need to hear which isn't the problem I have it is your decision making.

And yes you have a happy new year also next time maybe there be a cheaper alternative transportation that suit your priority but don't hold your breath.

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I was in Pattaya in the third week of December for three nights. Stayed in Caeser Palace hotel second road opposit Central Festival. Hotel location is good and rent is reasonable but bed was noisy. Can't give a hard fuck, the bed will cry louder. Visited my regular Gentlemans clubS, Club Fate, Maggie May and Kinnare in Jomtien. Not much busy and felt like the quality of ladies are deteriorating. May be because of my decline in sexual appetite.

This time my main operandi was through TF. Met a lady recently joined as a receptionist in a hotel third road South Pattaya. She is 5'7' height 68 Kgs and broad shoulders with 38 DDD and 38 years old. She was awesome for my eyes. Joined me after her work 12 mid night and left after break fast at 11. We both fully enjoyed our two sessions each for two nights. Man she was awesome. My kind of lady. Second day she left a little early to take an early shift for her co worker. I later texted her just asking work started? Immediatly she called me and said she is working and showed me the video thinking that I was suspicious on her. So sad. After some time a send a text to her hoping she is fine. She replied that she is very tiered and need rest for the last day. I said okay and told her we meet after three months in my next visit. I took another girl from TF last night and was a disaster. Enjoyed Sativum from an opposit Cannabis shop and was exciting. Returned next day and way back I texted my reception lady and noticed she blocked my number. Oops.

Thai ladies are sometimes very sensitive. When they translate texts in local language it can be misleading. Rule of thump: Be cautious while texting when the ladies are away. He he. Can get lot of ladies around but very few are compatable so be handle with care sometimes if want more from it.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2883612]We both fully enjoyed our two sessions each for two nights. Man she was awesome. My kind of lady.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2883612]Returned next day and way back I texted my reception lady and noticed she blocked my number. Oops.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2883612]Thai ladies are sometimes very sensitive. When they translate texts in local language it can be misleading. Rule of thump: Be cautious while texting when the ladies are away.[/QUOTE]Her blocking you is more an indicator that she was acting or just letting you have your fun instead of fully enjoying your company.

If she really liked you she would rather be fully over you than blocking you over a supposed misleading text message.

- Another bar that has full nudity is Top Gun in LK Metro. There was a girl on the small stage who was nude. But none of the raunchy stuff like the other bars.

So far, these are the bars I found that has full nudity:

1 & 2) Windmill 1 and Windmill 2 in Walking Street. Raunchy stuff on first and second floor.

3) Kink in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

4) Angels in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

Any others?

Greenbud,

Electric Blue? Not raunchy on stage but decent off stage.

Has Baccara 2nd floor reopened? Was closed when I was last there. Not raunchy on or off stage for fear of losing their Asian customers,

XO club 2nd floor of Dollhouse "temporarily" closed.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2883563]Currently in Japan with a lady from Maggie Mays.[/QUOTE]

Why take a girl to the country in Asia with the prettiest working girls I'll truly never understand.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883568]That is last word but you opened the can of worms bandido!

I made a simple statement nothing else even that went over your head it was no different than a numbers of others. But you took it as a personal attack decide to look up my profile and decide I write or post to belittle others.

You use the excuse that this board is to provide exchange information to justify your stupid comment but when you don't get all positive you whine with a long post ad to why you stupidly didn't take a 50 baht ride to get to where you needed to go. Yet you will spend a hell of lot of time buying and making coffee anf trying to put blame on me for your poor decision in my opinion.

Your priority is basically all fucking wrong. That is the point you need to hear which isn't the problem I have it is your decision making.

And yes you have a happy new year also next time maybe there be a cheaper alternative transportation that suit your priority but don't hold your breath.[/QUOTE]Why would I look up your profile? You really have trouble reading. I asked you to look up others before attacking them and yes calling someone 50 baht guy and stupid is an insult. As are accusations of bragging and whining, however you come to those. In any case. Life your happy life and enjoy your instant coffee. I am very happy with my decisions, not that it is any of your business. It might be wise to look into a mirror instead of lecturing others.

FA.

And BTW I did not take the 50 baht bus because I got a 20 baht alternative right to my hotel. On the way back there was no transportation of any kind available triggering my enquiry. Not that difficult, is it?

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2883639]Her blocking you is more an indicator that she was acting or just letting you have your fun instead of fully enjoying your company.

If she really liked you she would rather be fully over you than blocking you over a supposed misleading text message.[/QUOTE]These I Pleasured a Prostitute post till the end of time are Suspect. I' find it hard believe that guys give them Multiple Orgasms.

Maybe mistake Orgasms for Pain and discomfort. Hahaha.

Blocking a paying Customer is a Serious Offense.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2883817]Why would I look up your profile? You really have trouble reading. I asked you to look up others before attacking them and yes calling someone 50 baht guy and stupid is an insult. As are accusations of bragging and whining, however you come to those. In any case. Life your happy life and enjoy your instant coffee. I am very happy with my decisions, not that it is any of your business. It might be wise to look into a mirror instead of lecturing others.

FA.

And BTW I did not take the 50 baht bus because I got a 20 baht alternative right to my hotel. On the way back there was no transportation of any kind available triggering my enquiry. Not that difficult, is it?[/QUOTE]Look I'm going to do you a favor and remind you to stick to your words " lsdt word " which you can't seem to do that is a good indication as to why you continue to write to explain why, I know why look in the mirror Bandido, the more you explain the more you expose yourself as to why you refuse a 50 baht and great you found a cheaper alternative and save a whopping 30 baht. Happy you beat the taxi mafia I can see no one get over on the bandido.

You don't get it that is why you go through life spending time trying to side track the issue and blame me for your stupidlity I couldn't give a flying fuck that there isn't a route. Instead of enjoying yourself live by your word " last word " you back making an ass of yourself again.

Do me a favor say what you need to say again sure it might be entertaining for some a break from looks and price. Next.

Time you come into town let me know I send a ride for free for you I got ride service for SMF. LOL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2883766]Greenbud,

Electric Blue? Not raunchy on stage but decent off stage.

Has Baccara 2nd floor reopened? Was closed when I was last there. Not raunchy on or off stage for fear of losing their Asian customers,

XO club 2nd floor of Dollhouse "temporarily" closed.



Why take a girl to the country in Asia with the prettiest working girls I'll truly never understand.[/QUOTE]Thooooey two clubs across from Dollhouse Beaver / electric blue is no more after covid Electric blue replaced Dollhouse Xxx, but the lineup prior to covid were all gone.

Today Dollhouse is closed but you walk buy they got the door open light on with a guard outside. I spoke to one he noted girls working at Windmill two. The rumor is the owner or group that owns runs W1,2, has the old Dollhouse location another rumor they might close W1-2 and move everything into location of Dollhouse.

Bacarra upstair not open.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2883822]These I Pleasured a Prostitute post till the end of time are Suspect. I' find it hard believe that guys give them Multiple Orgasms.

Maybe mistake Orgasms for Pain and discomfort. Hahaha.

Blocking a paying Customer is a Serious Offense.[/QUOTE]I don't have enough money to pay a bargirl to have multiple orgasms.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883848]Thooooey two clubs across from Dollhouse Beaver / electric blue is no more after covid Electric blue replaced Dollhouse Xxx, but the lineup prior to covid were all gone.

Today Dollhouse is closed but you walk buy they got the door open light on with a guard outside. I spoke to one he noted girls working at Windmill two. The rumor is the owner or group that owns runs W1,2, has the old Dollhouse location another rumor they might close W1-2 and move everything into location of Dollhouse.

Bacarra upstair not open.[/QUOTE]That's the thing with rumors. They are maybe 50% true. So some facts.

Yes Dollhouse is bought by by same people as Windmill long time ago and NO they are not moving WM1 and / or WM2 into soi 15.

For soi15. The location of beavers / electricblue will turn into a restaurant (above it there is an hotel) and in the old AngelWitch willl be turned into a CLUB will owned by Sapphire.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2883912]That's the thing with rumors. They are maybe 50% true. So some facts.

Yes Dollhouse is bought by by same people as Windmill long time ago and NO they are not moving WM1 and / or WM2 into soi 15.

For soi15. The location of beavers / electricblue will turn into a restaurant (above it there is an hotel) and in the old AngelWitch willl be turned into a CLUB will owned by Sapphire.[/QUOTE]Yes as rumor goes, so did they actually buy the place and take overvthe lease. If leasing even buy and leavebit empty spend money to have guards watvh the place.

Then W1-2 did he buy or again lease these property arent cheap leading the key money. W-1 is always busy I don't see that with W2.

The property footage of Dollhouse up and down can easily accomodate the two the Dollhouse location further away but W1 seem to have a following.

Nevertheless, interesting.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2883612]I was in Pattaya in the third week of December for three nights. Stayed in Caeser Palace hotel second road opposit Central Festival. Hotel location is good and rent is reasonable but bed was noisy. Can't give a hard fuck, the bed will cry louder. Visited my regular Gentlemans clubS, Club Fate, Maggie May and Kinnare in Jomtien. Not much busy and felt likethe quality of ladies are deteriorating. May be because of my decline in sexual appetite.

This time my main operandi was through TF. Met a lady recently joined as a receptionist in a hotel third road South Pattaya. She is 5'7' height 68 Kgs and broad shoulders with 38 DDD and 38 years old. She was awesome for my eyes. Joined me after her work 12 mid night and left after break fast at 11. We both fully enjoyed our two sessions each for two nights. Man she was awesome. My kind of lady. Second day she left a little early to take an early shift for her co worker. I later texted her just askinng work started? Immediatly she called me and said she is working and showed me the video thinking that I was suspicious on her. So sad. After some time a send a text to her hoping she is fine. She replied that she is very tiered and need rest for the last day. I said okay and told her we meet after three months in my next visit. I took another girl from TF last night and was a disaster. Enjoyed Sativum from an opposite Cannabis shop and was exciting. Returned next day and way back I texted my reception lady and noticed she blocked my number..[/QUOTE]A question about this lady who suddenly ghosted you after 2 nights together with 2 sessions each begs to be asked;

How much baht did you give her for each of those 2 nights she spent with you?

Forgive me if this question has already been asked and answered by the time mine gets posted.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2883563]Getting back to business, it is so busy in Pattaya that I bailed.

Currently in Japan with a lady from Maggie Mays.[/QUOTE]Nice. Can you elaborate on this? Which city? Costs for the trip, costs for the girl. Would make it a bunch more helpful post.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2883965]Yes as rumor goes, so did they actually buy the place and take overvthe lease. If leasing even buy and leavebit empty spend money to have guards watvh the place.

Then W1-2 did he buy or again lease these property arent cheap leading the key money. W-1 is always busy I don't see that with W2.

The property footage of Dollhouse up and down can easily accomodate the two the Dollhouse location further away but W1 seem to have a following.

Nevertheless, interesting.[/QUOTE]Yes they took over the place so that would include the lease.

And no they did not open yet because of the amount of mongers in town. This high season is bad. There are some good days for all. But ALL my sources complain about lack of girls and punters!

My bet (not officially confirmed) is that Dollhouse opens after the restaurants are finished and Sapphire CLUB opens. So when Soi15 gets more attractive for foottraffic.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2883995]Nice. Can you elaborate on this? Which city? Costs for the trip, costs for the girl. Would make it a bunch more helpful post.[/QUOTE]Currently in Tokyo, but a side trip to Odawara yesterday.

4 nights = 2,000 baht times 4 for the lady.

$500 round trip airfare for her. I only flew one way, because I fly on to Addis Ababa tomorrow, where I will meet another lady flying from BKK, and then we will head to Brazil for 2 months.

So, it's tourism in the day, drinking in the very small hotel room at night, watching Thai music videos, and when she's drunk, Japanese X rated movies to get her warmed up.

The cold here is a bit of a problem, but she brought lots of heavy clothes.

She will be back in Maggie Mays on day 9.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2884110]Currently in Tokyo, but a side trip to Odawara yesterday.

4 nights = 2,000 baht times 4 for the lady.

$500 round trip airfare for her. I only flew one way, because I fly on to Addis Ababa tomorrow, where I will meet another lady flying from BKK, and then we will head to Brazil for 2 months.

So, it's tourism in the day, drinking in the very small hotel room at night, watching Thai music videos, and when she's drunk, Japanese X rated movies to get her warmed up.

The cold here is a bit of a problem, but she brought lots of heavy clothes.

She will be back in Maggie Mays on day 9.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

The costs add up travelling with a girl with airfare, food and money to the girl. I will stick to ST LOL.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2884110]The cold here is a bit of a problem, but she brought lots of heavy clothes.[/QUOTE]It's been around 15 Celsius here in Tokyo the past few days. Not too bad for January.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2884282]The costs add up travelling with a girl with airfare, food and money to the girl. I will stick to ST LOL.[/QUOTE]Explorer is not as cheap as I am. If I take a gogo girl to Japan or Korea I don't feel it's necessary to pay the girl over and above the airfare, hotel, and food. There would be no shortage of girls who would go with you too.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2884110] I will meet another lady flying from BKK, and then we will head to Brazil for 2 months.[/QUOTE]

2 months in Brazil and taking a Thai girl. There's a first. Guess hobbying sucks in Brazil now.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2884012]Yes they took over the place so that would include the lease.

And no they did not open yet because of the amount of mongers in town. This high season is bad. There are some good days for all. But ALL my sources complain about lack of girls and punters!

My bet (not officially confirmed) is that Dollhouse opens after the restaurants are finished and Sapphire CLUB opens. So when Soi15 gets more attractive for foottraffic.[/QUOTE]Not trying to Flex but I've been saying Business is BAD. Really isn't hard ro see.

I have no Agenda I call them like I see them.

Its only going to get worse too.

This tax thing is goinh to make me stay 6 months instead of 11.

To get a tax ID number which you need to file a tax return you need a Certificate of Residency. You can't get a certificate until you do at least one 90 day report. Looks Complicated.

Its a Freak Show.

Will I then need to show Somchai my $200,000 income. Its going to take 20 hours to go over.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2884477]This tax thing is goinh to make me stay 6 months instead of 11.[/QUOTE]So you're not going to stay more after they cut some taxes on some alcohol sales?

Shit, you're going to miss something.

They thought they're going to bring visitors in with this idea alone.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2884477]Not trying to Flex but I've been saying Business is BAD. Really isn't hard ro see.

I have no Agenda I call them like I see them.

Its only going to get worse too.

This tax thing is goinh to make me stay 6 months instead of 11.

To get a tax ID number which you need to file a tax return you need a Certificate of Residency. You can't get a certificate until you do at least one 90 day report. Looks Complicated.

Its a Freak Show.

Will I then need to show Somchai my $200,000 income. Its going to take 20 hours to go over.[/QUOTE]As of yesterday on the Thai Immigration website there was no change in the instructions or the list of documents required in order to extend an O-A Non Immigrant (Long Stay) visa vs last year. No mention at all of tax information, tax documents, anything.

I will be extending mine in a few months. Unless I see a change on their website, I suppose the Immigration Officer will just be springing a big surprise about it on me and everyone else there for the same purpose.

Of course, I will check again a day or two before I go and print out the full instructions so we can all have a fine time comparing notes.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2884477]Not trying to Flex but I've been saying Business is BAD. Really isn't hard ro see.

I have no Agenda I call them like I see them.

Its only going to get worse too.

This tax thing is goinh to make me stay 6 months instead of 11.[/QUOTE]I have a strong hunch this tax thing will be very short lived. I think it will be too complicated to administer in the long term.

May I suggest your next name change: SixMonths.

Hello, I'm in Pattaya now.

(1) long time: All my long time offers have been for two shots only. Is this the norm? How many hours is long time typically? If it's whole night, why do girls say more than 2 shots cost more? Note: I have only done short time.

(2) send a girl back: a freelancer came over from thai friendly, and she did not agree to perform certain acts we had discussed. She said she doesn't like to kiss. I wanted to send her home but wasn't sure how to do that (tell hotel? What to pay for taxi? What to pay her to leave without any drama? It was a mediocre experience as I went through with it. Specifically, what is the way to kick her out when she does not agree to perform the things we discussed?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2884396]It's If I take a gogo girl to Japan or Korea I don't feel it's necessary to pay the girl over and above the airfare, hotel, and food. There would be no shortage of girls who would go with you too
2 months in Brazil and taking a Thai girl. There's a first. Guess hobbying sucks in Brazil now.[/QUOTE]I don't think there are many girls, who's job is earning money from granting their companionship time and assorted services, ready to cut their income for one week or more with no earning.

Unless it is her holiday time for the year.

Maybe she accepts monetary compensation she doesn't really need but "why not? If a sucker wants to pay. Let him pay".

True the P4 P scene in Japan is rather costly, complicated and certainly not made of LT's.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2884496]So you're not going to stay more after they cut some taxes on some alcohol sales?

Shit, you're going to miss something.

They thought they're going to bring visitors in with this idea alone.[/QUOTE]I had a Nightmare. I'm at interview trying to explain how my USA Preferred stock dividends is qualified meaning in USA no tax. Somchai say this not USA and say I pay $2,000. If not pay cannot cum Thailand. Hahaha 🤣. Hahaha.

Could I think this scenario is possible. Hell Yes.

I faced major corruption in trying to get my EZ peady 30 day extension in this last trip.

Thought it was a one off then I saw post on ASEAN News the exact same thing that happened to me happened to the Poster.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2884282]Thanks for the reply.

The costs add up travelling with a girl with airfare, food and money to the girl. I will stick to ST LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually, if you go with a lady Long Time, you have to pay for hotel, food and money. The marginal cost of the travel is airfare.

For short trips, it's not much money.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2884615]Hello, I'm in Pattaya now.

(1) long time: All my long time offers have been for two shots only. Is this the norm? How many hours is long time typically? If it's whole night, why do girls say more than 2 shots cost more? Note: I have only done short time.



(2) send a girl back: a freelancer came over from thai friendly, and she did not agree to perform certain acts we had discussed. She said she doesn't like to kiss. I wanted to send her home but wasn't sure how to do that (tell hotel? What to pay for taxi? What to pay her to leave without any drama? It was a mediocre experience as I went through with it. Specifically, what is the way to kick her out when she does not agree to perform the things we discussed?[/QUOTE]Longtime: Yeha most would say 2 pops and a night. Always ASK. Before would be around 12 hours with you (nighttime) but these days some say 2 hours is LT. So ASK ASK ASK.

For your other issue. No need to involve the hotel. And if you did nothing (aka still dress) just kick her out and give her 100 THB for the motorbike. If you already did something. Aka complain afterwards. Pay the girl and cut your losses.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2884396] 2 months in Brazil and taking a Thai girl. There's a first. Guess hobbying sucks in Brazil now.[/QUOTE]KKK! Either the OP is out of his mind and has a lot of money to burn or he is in love with his Thai girl. Taking a Thai girl to Brazil is like flying a dump truck of sand to the beach and paying for the freight. But in all fairness, I have entertained the idea of taking my favorite Sao Paulo girl to Thailand. My fantasy daydream lasts for about a minute or so, however.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2884533]As of yesterday on the Thai Immigration website there was no change in the instructions or the list of documents required in order to extend an O-A Non Immigrant (Long Stay) visa vs last year. No mention at all of tax information, tax documents, anything.

I will be extending mine in a few months. Unless I see a change on their website, I suppose the Immigration Officer will just be springing a big surprise about it on me and everyone else there for the same purpose.

Of course, I will check again a day or two before I go and print out the full instructions so we can all have a fine time comparing notes.[/QUOTE]This year is the year to watch your days in Thailand to not fall under Residency status.

My fear is next year is when all the Chaos will start for those Deemed Tax Residents.

[QUOTE=Allover;2884570]I have a strong hunch this tax thing will be very short lived. I think it will be too complicated to administer in the long term.

May I suggest your next name change: SixMonths.[/QUOTE]Say its Jan. 2025. Immigration computers Flags you for staying 200 days in 2024.

Immigration ask for Tax Return cleareance. You say no HAB. Going to do it later.

Will Somchai let you go.

Playing with FIRE meThink.

Could I be crying like a little chicken. Yes!

We shall see how it turns out.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2884701]Longtime: Yeha most would say 2 pops and a night. Always ASK. Before would be around 12 hours with you (nighttime) but these days some say 2 hours is LT. So ASK ASK ASK.

For your other issue. No need to involve the hotel. And if you did nothing (aka still dress) just kick her out and give her 100 THB for the motorbike. If you already did something. Aka complain afterwards. Pay the girl and cut your losses.[/QUOTE]Thanks, for the tips. Some of the stunners on TF often ask ' How much are you paying me? I don't get that ask from non-stunners. The non-stunners are 7 to 9, out of 10, but they are not stunners, 9 and above. Off course they get upset if they don't like the price I quote. I had one girl ask 20 K. Off course I am not going to pay that, but I am sure there is a sucker who will.

Pricing question: I plan to try WS and LK agogos tomorrow. Next day, I will try the GCs. Is the pricing more standardized there? What should I expect?

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2884730]This year is the year to watch your days in Thailand to not fall under Residency status.

My fear is next year is when all the Chaos will start for those Deemed Tax Residents.[/QUOTE]Ah, I see. Then it is interesting that there is no mention on the Thai Immigration website that officially warns or notifies us that we'd better start counting the days we live here for the purposes of tax liability for this year. At least, I did not see one yet.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2884627]I had a Nightmare. I'm at interview trying to explain how my USA Preferred stock dividends is qualified meaning in USA no tax. Somchai say this not USA and say I pay $2,000. If not pay cannot cum Thailand. Hahaha 🤣. Hahaha.

Could I think this scenario is possible. Hell Yes.

I faced major corruption in trying to get my EZ peady 30 day extension in this last trip.

Thought it was a one off then I saw post on ASEAN News the exact same thing that happened to me happened to the Poster.[/QUOTE]To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2884706]KKK! Either the OP is out of his mind and has a lot of money to burn or he is in love with his Thai girl. Taking a Thai girl to Brazil is like flying a dump truck of sand to the beach and paying for the freight. But in all fairness, I have entertained the idea of taking my favorite Sao Paulo girl to Thailand. My fantasy daydream lasts for about a minute or so, however.[/QUOTE]This will be the third year in a row that I have taken a Thai lady to Brazil.

I may take a Mexican lady to Thailand next year.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2883719]- Another bar that has full nudity is Top Gun in LK Metro. There was a girl on the small stage who was nude. But none of the raunchy stuff like the other bars.

So far, these are the bars I found that has full nudity:

1 & 2) Windmill 1 and Windmill 2 in Walking Street. Raunchy stuff on first and second floor.

3) Kink in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

4) Angels in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

Any others?[/QUOTE]Greenbud,

Thanks for this summary. With the recent closure of Dollhouse and Electric Blue (two one of my favorites) along with Beavers and Crazyhouse among others that never made it back after COVID, it seems there's now quite a dearth of full nude, high contact gogos in Pattaya these days. That said, I'm happy to learn about Angels in LK Metro. I haven't been there yet but hope to check it out on my upcoming visit.

Do you gents have intel on other gogos where full nude high mileage fun can be had? It seems perhaps gentlemen's clubs are becoming the place for this these days. Curious to know what others think on this subject.

Cheers,

Neidermeyer.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2884854]To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.[/QUOTE]If Ben Hart the you tuber doesn't know what's going on I doubt a Big Accounting firm does.

It really doesn't matter what Official Guidlines are, I guarantee immigration or whoever will do what they want.

Its not so much the Tax I'm worried about its the Paperper Work involved to file even if you owe Noting.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2884790]Ah, I see. Then it is interesting that there is no mention on the Thai Immigration website that officially warns or notifies us that we'd better start counting the days we live here for the purposes of tax liability for this year. At least, I did not see one yet.[/QUOTE]Our Guinea Pig.

Have you been staying in Thailand over 180 days and been Filing tax forms?

This stuff may not be targeting us but we are the Collateral damage.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2884854]To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.[/QUOTE]USA tax authorities and banks are known for those being the most demanding in terms of acquiring information (useful for them) but, at the same token the more restricted to pass on the same level of information (from their own data bank) to other countries. Wherever you open a bank account or take action in some financial operation in many countries, you are deemed to fill a form specifically referring to your position, if any, with US tax authorities. As they might have to communicate info to them.

It's all about bilateral agreements where the US have gained more data power.

Nevertheless more banks or financial institutions have to follow their country rules to acquire foreign tax position of citizens of other countries, regardless they are residents.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2884854]To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is what I have read as well.

Being from a country that has that Treaty in place, I was hoping to find a mention of the general change on the Thai Immigration website, such as, "In the case of extending an O-A Non Immigrant Visa for an expat not from a country with the No Double Taxation Treaty, these are the current conditions and required documents, blah, blah, blah. ".

But as of 2 days ago I did not see any reference to it.

Certainly no expert at all!

There was an article the other day on As--and, in regards to this topic explanation from tax attorneys. I tried to go back and locate the story and paste it here but sadly I can't find it at the moment even then I'm not sure how to paste etc get it on this board.

People should be concerned because I fall into this category but living here for so many years I hear things thrown out by their leaders and you wonder and just wonder. So I'm just going to take a wait-and-see attitude until!

What I do remember reading is you get a pass this year because the Thai who opened this can of worms did not have a clue as to what he or she did. When it was brought up was mainly to target " Thais " earning money abroad and bringing it back to Thailand, enforcing was rightly so but it opened a whole can for expats and foreigners living here. Without a real clarification like everything the rumors running crazy. I hear ex-pats talk and what I hear is totally hearsay and even false because so and so told meM.

The key is how are they going to enforce it and will they see what they have open will they. What I got from the story was every country is different for the USA There is a treaty or agreement you can't take the Social Security pension. You can't double-tax an individual. Myself, although living here I file a tax return every year in the States for my S. S. And company allowance. From my understanding, Britain has no such agreement for example.

From my IRA, 401 K, etc. I have delayed taking it but will need to soon what I take out is added to my ordinary income and taxes are paid based on my bracket. So it assumes falls also into the Double taxing rule. The money I have shipped or brought over from the States through the years sits in my Thai bank and the interest given to the bank takes the taxes out from there so I've covered.

In the fine print, there are provisions on how long you stay and how you ship or spend here a year that require you to file a return. Most of the extra money I might ship comes from earnings already taxed come from earning before 2024. If one does file would need to provide proof of such. So look at what I have written lots and confusing so how is a Thai going to sort all this out if one does decide to file? Then I read from the article the website is only in Thai! Do people see where this is going?

There are tons of ifs at the end the Lawyers say if you need to file nothing to worry the tax law is so lacking that they provide tons of exemptions for tons of reasons the average person isn't going to pay a baht. But like myself, the last thing I need to add to my list is filing a tax return. So for myself, I'm not going to do one but what I plan to do for this year is just forward my S. S. And pension using Wise twice a month. If they ever get that fall when I fail for my extension and they ask me why I will prove to them I'm living out totally on the two which under the agreement can't be taxed again by your government so no filing is necessary.

Meantime the extra I've been bringing when rates are to my advantage will stop. All the extra will be brought when I go home once or twice a year whatever the limit of 10,000-20,000 I will carry it here myself or have my trusted family members visit to bring it over and laundry it. If all goes wrong there is the wait-and-see as to what agents can do to obtain extensions without all the nonsense. Worse come to worse I will need to spend time away from my Thai family and travel to other countries nearby but I'm not filing for now will hold tight!

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2884770]Thanks, for the tips. Some of the stunners on TF often ask ' How much are you paying me? I don't get that ask from non-stunners. The non-stunners are 7 to 9, out of 10, but they are not stunners, 9 and above. Off course they get upset if they don't like the price I quote. I had one girl ask 20 K. Off course I am not going to pay that, but I am sure there is a sucker who will.

Pricing question: I plan to try WS and LK agogos tomorrow. Next day, I will try the GCs. Is the pricing more standardized there? What should I expect?[/QUOTE]For WS I would recommend to check out: Tantra, Windmill (1 and 2) and avoid Pinup / XS / Bliss / Moon (pushing for drinks). For LK check out kink / topgun (New) and Las Vegas!

Prices LD 200-250. Barfines 1500+ (depending time and girl). Most agogos come alife after 10 pm.

GC? Maggys, Buzzin (soi pothole) and check pirats / amsterdam soi bangkot8 + catflaps (need a taxi) and you might want to check out MILK (new take motorbike).

GC are nice for afternoon early evenings.

I just read in the last edition of Stickman that Fever in LK Metro had some really pretty girls. I don't see the name mentioned below so wondering what you think of this recommendation?

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2884985]For WS I would recommend to check out.

GC? Maggys, Buzzin (soi pothole) and check pirats / amsterdam soi bangkot8 + catflaps (need a taxi) and you might want to check out MILK (new take motorbike).

GC are nice for afternoon early evenings.[/QUOTE]Hey Martin,

Had not heard about Milk, have you visited? Like to hear more. I have not seen them advertised at all. A place is low key, but if you are heading to Catflaps (good place BTW) add in Kinaree, one street over and Pussy Galore in Jometien. Kinaree gets started for real by 2:00 pm and is winding down by 5:00 ish. Almost all of those girls are FL's with home responsibilties.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2885037]Hey Martin,

Had not heard about Milk, have you visited? Like to hear more. I have not seen them advertised at all. A place is low key, but if you are heading to Catflaps (good place BTW) add in Kinaree, one street over and Pussy Galore in Jometien. Kinaree gets started for real by 2:00 pm and is winding down by 5:00 ish. Almost all of those girls are FL's with home responsibilties.[/QUOTE]My bad! Milk is a place in soi15 (can check it out anyway) but I was refering to MIRROR CLUB (look them up on facebook). They are new and photos and venues look nice enough.

Same for FireUp (Soi6, near 2nd road). They do like a crossover of a soi6 bar and a GC upstairs with events on fridays (900 thb incl ladydrinks and YOUR drinks).

Idk, but based on the video showing the lineups at catflaps, looks like you'd be better off on beach road. Chunkers and grannies from what I saw. And I'm not very picky!! 56 days till my first Thailand trip, I look forward to contributing some honest reporting.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2885068]My bad! Milk is a place in soi15 (can check it out anyway) but I was refering to MIRROR CLUB (look them up on facebook). They are new and photos and venues look nice enough.

Same for FireUp (Soi6, near 2nd road). They do like a crossover of a soi6 bar and a GC upstairs with events on fridays (900 thb incl ladydrinks and YOUR drinks).[/QUOTE]Heading back next month, will take a look at both. I've been to Fire a couple of times. Matt is a good dude. I was never in town on a Friday, but the reviews of the "Fired UP " event are all good. I tried to get in on one of the Wednesday events last month, but not enough punters so they cancelled it. I think they are trying to do an ad hoc second event weekly. I will try to make one of them soon.

I will look up the Mirror Club as well. Thanks.

I headed on over to Soi 6 with anticipation. The neon lights. Thousands of girls waiting for me and trying to lure me into their bars. Walked down the right side of Soi 6 from 2nd road as its the most busy. I walked by one partucular bar and saw a stunner I liked. As I walked by I casually winked at her and kept walking. Wondering to myself why she didn't jump out and grab me to come into her bar. I got down as far as Exotica and turned around to go back for another try. Again walking by same as before, but this time giving a wink and a nod. She still does not notice me. I stop at the corner and ponder for a moment about what I am doing wrong. Then I say to myself, this time she will notice me. I will give her the special wink and nod and flash a 20 Bhat note. I causally walk by and give her the wink nod and flash the 20 baht note. She looks at me for a brief second and then goes back to her phone. What am I doing wrong I ask myself. Maybe I better go in, but I don't want to buy any drinks for me or her. I think to myself, I am so handsome. I can pull this off. I go in and sit down. The server comes over and asks me what I want to drink. I ask her how much is a LEO beer. She says 90 Baht. I shutter in amazement and say, how much is a coke? She says 150 Baht. I tell her to give me the LEO.

The girl I like is still sitting outside on her phone. I ask the server to see if she will come over. The server goes over to talk to her and comes back saying the girl will be right over and what drink would I like to buy her. I think to myself "drink". How much will that cost? Anyways the girl walks over and sits down. Then she asked for a drink. I ask her how much. She says 160 baht. Whoa, really I say. I reluctantly say ok. We start talking. The drink order comes. I get to know her a little bit. We exchange pleasantries. How old are you. Where do you come from and so on. She finishes her drink. I start to caress her legs and breasts. She says, can I have another drink. I say hmmm why? She looks puzzled. Then I ask her how much is the bar fine. She says 1500 before midnight. Oh I feel shocked. Can we do ST, I ask. She says yes. I say how much. She says 1800 baht plus 400 room. I think to myself, hmm, I heard I can get 1000 baht. I offer this. She says a strong no. I counter with 1200 and she says 1500. I agree. Then I ask her about the services. I want BBFS CIP, 2 pops, and COF. She says a strong "No" I think to myself, what did I do wrong. Alas she says she will go to the toilet.

After she leaves, 5 Korean guys enter the bar. All the girls follow them in. They sit down and tons of commotion starts. The girls are laughing, sitting on the laps of the guys. They grab their dicks and so on. Not one drink has been bought yet. All of a sudden, I am shocked as a loud horn goes off. Then I see all the girls gather around the Korean guys and a load of shots come. Songs and chants are heard and so on. Then my girl enters back into the bar and runs over to the group for her drink and completely ignores me. What did I do wrong I think to myself. My girl is now grinding on some Korean dude. I see him pull out 1000 baht and slip it into her bra. Wow I think to myself. Why is he doing that. I sit there alone for another 30 minutes and the server even ignores me. I didn't want a drink anyways. Good for me. I just wanted that girl. I started to think if I offer her 100 Baht more will she go.

Alas another loud horn goes off and my girl is also getting about 40 drinks bought for her by the one Korean guy. How is this going on I think and what kind of place is this.

After another 20 minutes goes by, I see my lady walk over to the bar and she gets a long bill. Looks like it's taller than her and she holds it up while the cashier takes a photo. I hear someone say the bill amount of 20,000 Baht. I think what's going on here. Am I being cheated. I bought her a drink and she is ignoring me. What should I do. I think to my self, this place sucks. I am going to complain. I walk over to the cashier and ask to speak to the manager. The manager comes over and I say to him, listen I bought that girl a drink and she drank it and then walked away. It's not fair. The manager says he's sorry but she has to take care of the other customers. He offers to buy me a drink but I decline. I threaten to write a bad review in the discord. That will fix them I think to myself. The manager just walks away and joins the group of Koreans as well. I ask to pay my bill and start to leave. As I am walking out, my lady is also leaving with the Korean guy. She does not even look at me once. What a bad girl. I will, fix this bar. I will write 10 google reviews and complain in every discord and Facebook group about Pattaya that this bar sucks. No-one will ever go there again I think to myself: "Winning"!

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2885096]Idk, but based on the video showing the lineups at catflaps, looks like you'd be better off on beach road. Chunkers and grannies from what I saw. And I'm not very picky!! 56 days till my first Thailand trip, I look forward to contributing some honest reporting.[/QUOTE]Go to their Facebook page and you will see they have about 7 really nice girls there. Of course all gents clubs have their share of fuggly uglies. I posted a few of their photos in this post. Since then, a couple more nice ones started work.


http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3882-Pattaya-Gentleman-s-Clubs&p=2877036&viewfull=1#post2877036

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885209]I ask to pay my bill and start to leave. As I am walking out, my lady is also leaving with the Korean guy. She does not even look at me once. What a bad girl. I will, fix this bar. I will write 10 google reviews and complain in every discord and Facebook group about Pattaya that this bar sucks. No-one will ever go there again I think to myself: "Winning"![/QUOTE]LOL. You want to play peek-a-boo games and sit down and have drinks and buy drinks for hookers while you could be fucking. I will never understand this shit. It is a hoar house Walk up to a chick and ask about fucking then go to the room. Why make it so complicated? Too many times I have stood out in the street and talked to a chick about fucking. Why do guys insist that you need to sit down and cozy up with hookers before going to fuck them? Walk up: we go boom boom. How much? Too simple!

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885209]I headed on over to Soi 6 with anticipation. [/QUOTE]Hilarious mate! 5555555555.

However it is SPOTON about how Pattaya has changed.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885209]I headed on over to Soi 6 with anticipation. The neon lights. Thousands of girls waiting for me and trying to lure me into their bars. Walked down the right side of Soi 6 from 2nd road as its the most busy. I walked by one partucular bar and saw a stunner I liked. As I walked by I casually winked at her and kept walking. Wondering to myself why she didn't jump out and grab me to come into her bar. I got down as far as Exotica and turned around to go back for another try. Again walking by same as before, but this time giving a wink and a nod. She still does not notice me. I stop at the corner and ponder for a moment about what I am doing wrong. Then I say to myself, this time she will notice me. I will give her the special wink and nod and flash a 20 Bhat note. I causally walk by and give her the wink nod and flash the 20 baht note. She looks at me for a brief second and then goes back to her phone. What am I doing wrong I ask myself. Maybe I better go in, but I don't want to buy any drinks for me or her. I think to myself, I am so handsome. I can pull this off. I go in and sit down. The server comes over and asks me what I want to drink. I ask her how much is a LEO beer. She says 90 Baht. I shutter in amazement and say, how much is a coke? She says 150 Baht. I tell her to give me the LEO.

The girl I like is still sitting outside on her phone. I ask the server to see if she will come over. The server goes over to talk to her and comes back saying the girl will be right over and what drink would I like to buy her. I think to myself "drink". How much will that cost? Anyways the girl walks over and sits down. Then she asked for a drink. I ask her how much. She says 160 baht. Whoa, really I say. I reluctantly say ok. We start talking. The drink order comes. I get to know her a little bit. We exchange pleasantries. How old are you. Where do you come from and so on. She finishes her drink. I start to caress her legs and breasts. She says, can I have another drink. I say hmmm why? She looks puzzled. Then I ask her how much is the bar fine. She says 1500 before midnight. Oh I feel shocked. Can we do ST, I ask. She says yes. I say how much. She says 1800 baht plus 400 room. I think to myself, hmm, I heard I can get 1000 baht. I offer this. She says a strong no. I counter with 1200 and she says 1500. I agree. Then I ask her about the services. I want BBFS CIP, 2 pops, and COF. She says a strong "No" I think to myself, what did I do wrong. Alas she says she will go to the toilet.[/QUOTE]This is the same pattern as Angeles City in the Philippines, where the Koreans drove out the Farangs. Unfortunately for the ladies, the Koreans alone weren't enough to sustain them, so many ladies went home. So then the Koreans migrated to Pattaya. Shampoo, rinse, repeat.

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2885096]Idk, but based on the video showing the lineups at catflaps, looks like you'd be better off on beach road. Chunkers and grannies from what I saw. And I'm not very picky!! 56 days till my first Thailand trip, I look forward to contributing some honest reporting.[/QUOTE]When you go to a bar, you never know what ladies will be there. Some days there are many hot ladies, the next day, the good ones are all barfined.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885209]I headed on over to Soi 6 with anticipation.[/QUOTE]What bar was this? Need to know what to avoid!

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2885319]What bar was this? Need to know what to avoid![/QUOTE]It was awful mate. I am still traumatised to this day. I have stopped going to Soi 6. I am now trying to pick up girls in 808. I can hide from the staff very easily. I sneak a bottle of water in so I don't have to buy a drink. Last night I even snuck a Leo in as well from 7/11. Wish we luck.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885320]I am now trying to pick up girls in 808. I can hide from the staff very easily. I sneak a bottle of water in so I don't have to buy a drink. Last night I even snuck a Leo in as well from 7/11. Wish we luck.[/QUOTE]Trying to pick up girls? Luck? That is just like saying you are "trying" to get some food. They are hookers. Just go up and ask them how much or tell them how much you will pay. What is with all the games? First playing peek-a-boo on Soi 6, now too cheap to buy a drink in a disco on Walking Street so needing to hide from staff? Amazing!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2885224]LOL. You want to play peek-a-boo games and sit down and have drinks and buy drinks for hookers while you could be fucking. I will never understand this shit. It is a hoar house Walk up to a chick and ask about fucking then go to the room. Why make it so complicated? Too many times I have stood out in the street and talked to a chick about fucking. Why do guys insist that you need to sit down and cozy up with hookers before going to fuck them? Walk up: we go boom boom. How much? Too simple![/QUOTE]Because everyone has different modes of operation.

I prefer a couple of hours alone with a lady in my condo before going to bed. Sometimes the lady doesn't pass muster, and I send her home.

Or sometimes the lady is a clockwatcher and wants to do everything quickly. No fun.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885320]I sneak a bottle of water in so I don't have to buy a drink. Last night I even snuck a Leo in as well from 7/11. [/QUOTE]Reminds me of the Indian guy in Pattaya who used to carry an unopened can of Coke with him to multiple Walking Street gogo bars each night, never opening the can. He used to clutch on to that can for dear life. I'm sure he bought that Coke at a combini too. Never seen him talk to a single girl let alone ever buy a lady drink.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2885384]Reminds me of the Indian guy in Pattaya who used to carry an unopened can of Coke with him to multiple Walking Street gogo bars each night, never opening the can. He used to clutch on to that can for dear life. I'm sure he bought that Coke at a combini too. Never seen him talk to a single girl let alone ever buy a lady drink.[/QUOTE]Hah. Emotional support soda?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2885384]Reminds me of the Indian guy in Pattaya who used to carry an unopened can of Coke with him to multiple Walking Street gogo bars each night, never opening the can. He used to clutch on to that can for dear life. I'm sure he bought that Coke at a combini too. Never seen him talk to a single girl let alone ever buy a lady drink.[/QUOTE]Keep it real people. No way in San Jesus is an Indian getting into multiple Agogos on Walking Street.

No Offense to my SE Asian Friends. I don't make the Rules.

About Korean s.

If it were True they were spending like Kim Jong UN was going to blow them up to Oblivion wouldn't there be more Hot Girls working on the 6 Soi.

Workers follow the Money!

Ex Hot girls don't work GCs because clientele is Cheap AZZ Bustardos. No offense.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2885224]LOL. You want to play peek-a-boo games and sit down and have drinks and buy drinks for hookers while you could be fucking. I will never understand this shit. It is a hoar house Walk up to a chick and ask about fucking then go to the room. Why make it so complicated? Too many times I have stood out in the street and talked to a chick about fucking. Why do guys insist that you need to sit down and cozy up with hookers before going to fuck them? Walk up: we go boom boom. How much? Too simple![/QUOTE]I understand your point. Generally, whether Pattaya or Costa Rica, anywhere really, I want to feel a personal vibe with a potential bedmate. That's why I prefer beer bars where I can feel loose, play pool and play a little grab ass to see if we're compatible. To whit; I has a total "9" that I met on TF my last trip to Pattaya in April. I met her outside the lobby and we went up to my room. She wasn't drinking, kind of a bummer because I feel women get more frisky as I do. We chatted, I got a bit bored, we went to bed after she showered, and I felt nothing. There was no connection there other than she has a great body. She was cold as a fish. I've had better one night stand sex than sex with girls I've lived with. There has to be a connection for me.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885209]I headed on over to Soi 6 with anticipation. The neon lights. Thousands of girls waiting for me and trying to lure me into their bars. Walked down the right side of Soi 6 from 2nd road as it’s the most busy. I walked by one partucular bar and saw a stunner I liked.

Alas she says she will go to the

Alas another loud horn goes off and my girl is also getting about 40 drinks bought for her by the one Korean guy. How is this going on I think and what kind of place is He offers to buy me a drink but I decline. I threaten to write a bad review in the discord. That will fix them I think to myself. The manager just walks away and joins the group of Koreans as well. I ask to pay my bill and start to leave. As I am walking out, my lady is also leaving with the Korean guy. She does not even look at me once. What a bad girl. I will, fix this bar. I will write 10 google reviews and complain in every discord and Facebook group about Pattaya that this bar sucks. No-one will ever go there again I think to myself: "Winning"![/QUOTE]How many ways can you put this:

1. You snooze you lose!

2. A fool and his money are soon parted!

3. If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it.

Right her off as a lesson learned and move on. She wouldn't know you from Adam the next day anyway.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885320]It was awful mate. I am still traumatised to this day. I have stopped going to Soi 6. I am now trying to pick up girls in 808. I can hide from the staff very easily. I sneak a bottle of water in so I don't have to buy a drink. Last night I even snuck a Leo in as well from 7/11. Wish we luck.[/QUOTE]For those new here, this post contains snark.

If we could all be like Mr Sins. He ballen at Helicopter last night. Sparse crowd. He was Happy as a Clam with his chosen Ugly Mugly. Could see he bought her 4 drinks. Surely on his way to 40. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2885423]About Korean s.

If it were True they were spending like Kim Jong UN was going to blow them up to Oblivion wouldn't there be more Hot Girls working on the 6 Soi.

Workers follow the Money!

Ex Hot girls don't work GCs because clientele is Cheap AZZ Bustardos. No offense.[/QUOTE]Last week, I visited Thermae, Billboard, Butterfly, Baccara, and other gogos as well. Personally, I didn't see any Koreans throwing money around as some have posted here. In fact, I saw the opposite, where they were somewhat cheap with buying drinks. Baccara was the only place I saw Koreans buying drinks, and even that was at a fairly modest level. I had no issues picking anyone at Thermae. I admit my sample size is very limited, but I was expecting Koreans to be bigger spenders than what I witnessed.

I will be coming into the Port and rather than fight the traffic of Bangkok, I've decided to head to Pattaya. My question is, where does one monger during the daytime in Pattaya. I know there are plenty of places in the evening, but what about during the day, and I won't have a Hotel, so Beach Road may not work.

[QUOTE=Woorace;2885476]I will be coming into the Port and rather than fight the traffic of Bangkok, I've decided to head to Pattaya. My question is, where does one monger during the daytime in Pattaya. I know there are plenty of places in the evening, but what about during the day, and I won't have a Hotel, so Beach Road may not work.[/QUOTE]Most gentlemen clubs have onsite rooms and are open in the day. Early afternoon is the best time.

[QUOTE=Algocreeper4;2885096]Idk, but based on the video showing the lineups at catflaps, looks like you'd be better off on beach road. Chunkers and grannies from what I saw. And I'm not very picky!! 56 days till my first Thailand trip, I look forward to contributing some honest reporting.[/QUOTE]56 days to your first trip but you already have opinions on a bar you have never been to in a city you have never been to in a country you have never been to. But you did watch a video. Amazing.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2885479]But you did watch a video. Amazing.[/QUOTE]I'm always amused when first-timers try to pre-plan their trips right down to which bars to go to and which girls to take. Trust me, it's a lot more fun just showing up and making your own discoveries.

[QUOTE=Woorace;2885476]I will be coming into the Port and rather than fight the traffic of Bangkok, I've decided to head to Pattaya. My question is, where does one monger during the daytime in Pattaya. I know there are plenty of places in the evening, but what about during the day, and I won't have a Hotel, so Beach Road may not work.[/QUOTE]Just walk down Soi Chaiyapoon anytime after 1 pm. Problem solved.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2885423]About Korean s.

If it were True they were spending like Kim Jong UN was going to blow them up to Oblivion wouldn't there be more Hot Girls working on the 6 Soi.

Workers follow the Money!

Ex Hot girls don't work GCs because clientele is Cheap AZZ Bustardos. No offense.[/QUOTE]For the bars in Pattaya, especially on Soi 6, the Koreans are big spenders. I see them in all the soi 6 bars spending. Why do you think the girls do the Korean smily signs all the time? It's to attract the Korean customers. Dam Koreans stealing my ladies LOL. Maybe I will start to do the wink/nod and flash one 20 Baht note and a 10 Baht coin. Will that help?

Greetings to all.

I will be in the great Pattaya next week for few days and trying to plan the best experience out of it. Been in BKK last year where I had a great time, but so many friends pushed me to visit Pattaya too because of the unique experience. I have been reading this tread and learn a lot (thank you all for the contributions!) and understood that there is some differences compared to BKK.

To wrap them up (and see if I understood correctly), the spots where your can have good time are soapies, massages, beer bars, gogos, gentlemen clubs and soi 6 which is something in between a gogo and a GC. GC and soi 6 have rooms "upstairs" so you do not need to take out the lady unless you want to. Young ones are easier to find in soi 6 and gogos, except some "diamonds" here and there in the other spots. GC have usually also music not too loud and where you can get a kind of conversation. Differently to soi 6 and gogos where you need a speaker to talk with someone.

I wil try here and there based on how I feel that day, but I guess I have to try them all!

I like to put at least one threesome with some lesbian action during my visits and I have read that the easier spot where to find ladies with such "open" mind is in Kink in LK Metro. Does anyone has other suggestions? May be asking I GC and massages?

Thanks for any suggestion and will write a report once back.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2885478]Most gentlemen clubs have onsite rooms and are open in the day. Early afternoon is the best time.[/QUOTE]Never had any plan. Just went for a walk and never knew where I would end up. One day I start with Ola the next I was at agents club. The next on Soi 6 .never had a bad day in many trips. Many days s a nice girl will grab you and you spend the day and night with her.

I always have a list of things I want to do when I go. But never any order. I have picked up girls at breakfast and spent the day with them. Impossible to plan ahead.

It is also impossible not to have a good time.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885524]For the bars in Pattaya, especially on Soi 6, the Koreans are big spenders. I see them in all the soi 6 bars spending. Why do you think the girls do the Korean smily signs all the time? It's to attract the Korean customers. [/QUOTE]I wonder if there is an ISG equivalent website that Korean gents post on in Korean. I think it would be interesting to see how they view the sport. Obviously, spending a lot of money on girls, ie showing off in front of their friends, is part of their culture as is lassoing a lot of girls. I have seen lone Korean guys surround themselves with 5 or 6 girls at a time, more than they can possibly do. It seems like overkill to me, but they seem to be enjoying themselves as they show off and it is their money.

What I object to is when they practice their racial prejudice against Westerners as in AC and exclude us from "their" bars. It sounds like Soi 6 will soon fall under their influence.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885524]For the bars in Pattaya, especially on Soi 6, the Koreans are big spenders. I see them in all the soi 6 bars spending. Why do you think the girls do the Korean smily signs all the time? It's to attract the Korean customers. Dam Koreans stealing my ladies LOL. Maybe I will start to do the wink/nod and flash one 20 Baht note and a 10 Baht coin. Will that help?[/QUOTE]That's a lady?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885549]I wonder if there is an ISG equivalent website that Korean gents post on in Korean. I think it would be interesting to see how they view the sport. Obviously, spending a lot of money on girls, ie showing off in front of their friends, is part of their culture as is lassoing a lot of girls. I have seen lone Korean guys surround themselves with 5 or 6 girls at a time, more than they can possibly do. It seems like overkill to me, but they seem to be enjoying themselves as they show off and it is their money.

What I object to is when they practice their racial prejudice against Westerners as in AC and exclude us from "their" bars. It sounds like Soi 6 will soon fall under their influence.[/QUOTE]I don't mind if Soi 6 is Koreanized, but when they do the same east of Second Road, Pattaya will be ruined.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885524]For the bars in Pattaya, especially on Soi 6, the Koreans are big spenders.[/QUOTE]That's putting it mildly. I just finished a trip to Pattaya and every single night East Asian customers were throwing money all over the place (known as "making it rain") inside of XS. I believe its mostly Koreans and Japanese.

I went to all the usual spots in WS: XS, Pinup, Palace, Iron, Sapphire, Sensations, Baccara, Farehneight, etc. And 99% of the customers were East Asian. They were barfining women early, buying drinks, throwing money, etc. They know how party. One guy I saw in Palace had a bill of 25,000 baht. And he didn't even barfine anyone once he paid it. I did visit LK metro again but wasn’t impressed.

East Asians definitely dictate the prices in go-gos and there is no shortage of them parting with their money. You won’t catch many ex-pats or pensioners in those places. I also did the usual tour inside of 808, Myst, and Insomnia, extremely disappointing.

I still had a good time and will be back again.

For those interested or concerned about the Tax? Living or happen to be in Pattaya.

Pattaya Expat Club:

Hotel Baraquda 2nd Road, opposite Soi 13/2 Breakfast 09:30-10:30 Speaker 11:00.

300 B members, 350 B Non-members, Meeting only: 50 Baht. Meeting the second Floor. Tuesday 16th of January topic on Tax Update.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2885669]That's putting it mildly. I just finished a trip to Pattaya and every single night East Asian customers were throwing money all over the place (known as "making it rain") inside of XS. I believe its mostly Koreans and Japanese.

I went to all the usual spots in WS: XS, Pinup, Palace, Iron, Sapphire, Sensations, Baccara, Farehneight, etc. And 99% of the customers were East Asian. They were barfining women early, buying drinks, throwing money, etc. They know how party. One guy I saw in Palace had a bill of 25,000 baht. And he didn't even barfine anyone once he paid it. I did visit LK metro again but wasnt impressed.

East Asians definitely dictate the prices in go-gos and there is no shortage of them parting with their money. You wont catch many ex-pats or pensioners in those places. I also did the usual tour inside of 808, Myst, and Insomnia, extremely disappointing.

I still had a good time and will be back again.[/QUOTE]My anthisisis of what this guy SAW. LOL.

Fahrenheit never ever a HOTBED of anyone making it RAIN. Girls are MEH at Best.

About Barfinining early say 8. 30 to 9. 30. In my many countless numerous visits I just didn't see it Anywhere.

I Pray all this activity is going on while I'm checking my STOCK PORTFOLIO. Like I said I have NO agenda just reporting what I see.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2885680]For those interested or concerned about the Tax? Living or happen to be in Pattaya.

Pattaya Expat Club:

Hotel Baraquda 2nd Road, opposite Soi 13/2 Breakfast 09:30-10:30 Speaker 11:00.

300 B members, 350 B Non-members, Meeting only: 50 Baht. Meeting the second Floor. Tuesday 16th of January topic on Tax Update.[/QUOTE]I'm suspicious. LOL. Is the organizer Broke?

Aint no news come out yet about anything. If there was You Tube Ben Hart would have made a 2 minute video yesterday.

Why is our 40 drink GOD trying to distance himself from the Silly Spending Crowd?

Girls and Brian Flowers love you Guys.

My Pattaya Experience, first time.

Came here for my 56th birthday in early December 2023. My entire plan was to go to 2 soapy massage places for my fun. I did this a year earlier in Phuket, and had a great time.

Go into Honey Body Massage 2 and pick a girl, one of the more "high end" girls, for about 4 k baht. Get to the room, she turns on the TV to some music station and turns the volume ALL THE WAY UP. I mean, it was loud. I ask her to turn it down a few times, but she barely turns it down.

After about 20 minutes the bath and an inflatable raft (next to the bath is ready. During this whole time my girl is literally ignoring me, looking quite somber. Before you get any ideas about my looks, I'm generally considered pretty good looking and most ladies guess I'm 35-45 years old. I work out several times a week and eat healthy. So I'm not some old, fat slob.

I get into the tub, and my girl goes from 100% bored to 1000% porn star in 1 second, so it was a dead, blank expression to the most over the top moans you've ever heard, from her just rubbing her tits on me. I try to touch. NO. So I ask what I can do. She tells me. No touching tits, no touching pussy, no fingering, no licking, no kissing anywhere, no grabbing ass, no spanking ass. I let out a laugh and I'm like, "Oh my, what can I do?" Between her fake moans, the "NO" answers and the blaring music, I was just not feeling good. My dick won't get hard and she's grabbing it like a dead fish making comments about "no hard, no hard" as she is extremely annoyed.

She moves me to the inflatable with some type of weird nuru soap massage. It's boring, so I say, "Can we just go to the bed?" I receive a short sexy massage. Afterwards, I'm getting a horrible condom blowjob. I finally get 50% hard and she gets on her back with a "go go go" and I say no, I want to start doggy. She complains about it but does it. After a minute she says "ok now finish" and gets on her back, but I'm so frustrated that I can't get hard. I tell the girl to get me hard again and she tells me that we have 5 minutes. Mind you, we moved to the bed 10 minutes ago. I thought, 5 minutes? And it hits me that between all the prep work, inflatable, bathtub, sexy massage, and drying off, we used up about 45-50 minutes of our 60 minutes.

At this point, I say "stop" and get dressed. She asks me what's wrong. I gave the full list. Loud music that's a huge distraction, wasted time, 10 minutes of sex out of 60 minutes of service, no touching or licking, fake over the top moans, attitude from simple positions. I tell her I'm leaving. I've had enough. Based on this, I kill my plan to visit the next soapy massage.

Next few nights, I move over to Tinder and quickly match with a few girls. I ask them if they are freelancers, and they say yes. I quickly set a date at my condo, and she arrives. Super cute, 22 years old, petite, great body. What I love about being an older man who has fucked tons of young women is that I can tell the girls don't expect much from me when they first meet me. However, I'm REALLY GOOD at eating pussy and I'm better than average at fucking (so I've been told). I got this girl naked and proceeded to eat that pussy for a good 20 minutes until her legs were shaking and she was begging to fuck. Turned her to doggy and slid my cock into that very tight and very wet young pussy. She asked about a condom and I just said "nope" and kept pounding. I can normally last a good 20-30 minutes fucking so we did it doggy, standing, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, finished at missionary with a creampie. Gave her 3000 and sent her home. I let her know. Don't worry, I have a vasectomy and I'm clean, so you're good. That brought a smile LOL.

2 nights later, another of my matches asks me if I want to meet and have fun. She won't show me a face pic, but body looks great, blonde hair, and 18 years old. She comes over and OMG WOW, she is absolutely gorgeous. She looks more Japanese than Thai. Her makeup, face, hair, clothes. All perfect. She's the best looking girl I've fucked in a long time. She gets naked. Perfect body! Slim, petite, absolutely beautiful.

Same as the other girl. She gave me that "let's get this over with look" and we start. Haha, after that I think she screamed out "I'm going to cum" at least 3 times over the next hour. She never asked about a condom and I certainly didn't reach for one, as I enjoyed this VERY tight, wet, 18-year old pussy. Gave her the creampie, she asked for 5000 for the no condom / creampie service, and I was happy to hand it over. She was perfection.

I ordered in-room massage and the girl offered a hand job for 2000. Next day I headed over to Bangkok to continue the debauchery.

My impressions of Pattaya. A lot of old white men in a dirty, loud city haha. I always thought I could retire here, but I don't think so. The beach is nice, but that's about it. Phuket is better for Thailand beach living. From a visitor standpoint, it's ok. From a living standpoint, nope, I couldn't do it.

I heard from many that gentlemen clubs in Pattaya are really good for value. As everyone knows, I am on a very strict budget. Secondly, I am very good lookin. I don't like to pay for pussy. At least not much. This past Thursday, while waiting for my transfer, I was thinking 5 more hours with no money. What should I do. Having just topped up my daily internet package, I started to search how I could get free food. I came across Cat Flaps in Pratumnak's free lasagne day. Perfect. Wait a minute. I need to buy a lady drink. How to get around this. No problem for a super duper handsome man like me. So off I went.

I stay at a guest house on the dark side for 2500 Baht per month. One of the best fan rooms I've ever had. I grab my phone and off I go on the two hour walk. I need to make it on time for the 13:00 opening. I stop at 7/11 and grab a can of LEO using the last of my cash. Then continue on.

I arrive at Cat Flaps around 13:15, phew. I'm greeted by the girls all lined up on both sides of the door. I strut through the middle of them like Rico Suave and grab a chair at the bar, not forgetting to do my famous wink / nod to a hot girl on the left. Except this time, it works. I didn't even need the 20 baht note. The girl follows me over and sits down beside me. We start chatting. Immediately, we finish with the usual pleasantries and she started kissing my neck. No mention of any drink yet. Wow, I must be having a really good hair day. 👍.

After about 20 minutes of heavy petting. I see the lasagne being brought out. How do I navigate this, I think to myself. By the way, up until this point, I have not even ordered a drink for myself and everyone is leaving me alone. I've got one hand on this girl's ass and the other is clutching the can of LEO from 7/11 for dear life. I dare not open it. It has to last 3 more hours.

Then, the bar tender comes over. I'm fully expecting her to force me to order a drink. I shutter with worry and I begin to sweat. Out of sheer amazement, she asks if I would like my free lasagne. I jump out of my chair and say a big yes. I run over to the serving area and help myself. The girl, who I forgot to mention, her name was Pop, also comes over and stops me. She says, allow me, and finishes serving the lasagne for me and carries it back to our seat.

I gobble the lasagne down like it is going out of style. Then Pop grabs a napkin and cleans my mouth and face for me. She then starts grabbing my dick and caressing it. Wow, this must have been the best hair day ever. Then she says, let's go upstairs. Then a big wave of disappointment comes over me as I wonder, how am I going to get out of this. I don't even have the 800 baht I would have normally offered her. I ask her ever so quietly how much. She says, she will pay me 3000 baht! I almost fall off my chair. I eagerly agree, but with one condition. No BJ. I'm afraid I've got a sweaty and smelly ball sack from the long walk and I don't want her to get spooked.

She responds to my condition by countering with ok no BJ, but I want 3 shots and BBFS CIP. I think to myself for a minute and then hesitantly agree.

We go upstairs and get into bed. I start to feel a little tired and ask her to hurry up. She says no, she wants to take her time. I say please hurry, it's past my nap time. Then I tell her if you need more time, you have to pay upfront. She agrees and gets the money.

I lay there naked on the bed while she jumps on top of me and starts to ride. I lay there motionless. After 10 minutes of this, I finish. She says wait, you agreed to 2 more pops. I tell her to wait a few minutes. Then my phone rings, it's my room mate. I put him on speaker phone and he tells me he forgot his key and needs me to go back to the room to let him in. I look at Pop and say I have to go. Pop looks so sad, but gets dressed. She walks me down stairs, walks me to the door, gives me a kiss on the cheek and I'm off. Phew. I got away with it. No bar bill, free food, a free ST and money in my pocket. "Winning".

Here is her photo. Oh and a photo of the girl too. 😜.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885590]I don't mind if Soi 6 is Koreanized, but when they do the same east of Second Road, Pattaya will be ruined.[/QUOTE]If that does happen then Ban Chang will start getting more interest, more than the current day trips.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2885759]If that does happen then Ban Chang will start getting more interest, more than the current day trips.[/QUOTE]Plenty of Koreans in Ban Chang since before Covid, although they don't seem to throw cash around like the 2 week millionaires on Walking Street and Soi 6.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885738]I heard from many that gentlemen clubs in Pattaya are really good for value. As everyone knows, I am on a very strict budget. Secondly, I am very good lookin. I don't like to pay for pussy. At least not much. This past Thursday, while waiting for my transfer, I was thinking 5 more hours with no money. What should I do. Having just topped up my daily internet package, I started to search how I could get free food. I came across Cat Flaps in Pratumnak's free lasagne day. Perfect. Wait a minute. I need to buy a lady drink. How to get around this. No problem for a super duper handsome man like me. So off I went.

I stay at a guest house on the dark side for 2500 Baht per month. One of the best fan rooms I've ever had. I grab my phone and off I go on the two hour walk. I need to make it on time for the 13:00 opening. I stop at 7/11 and grab a can of LEO using the last of my cash. Then continue on.

I arrive at Cat Flaps around 13:15, phew. I'm greeted by the girls all lined up on both sides of the door. I strut through the middle of them like Rico Suave and grab a chair at the bar, not forgetting to do my famous wink / nod to a hot girl on the left. Except this time, it works. I didn't even need the 20 baht note. The girl follows me over and sits down beside me. We start chatting. Immediately, we finish with the usual pleasantries and she started kissing my neck. No mention of any drink yet. Wow, I must be having a really good hair day. 👍.

After about 20 minutes of heavy petting. I see the lasagne being brought out. How do I navigate this, I think to myself. By the way, up until this point, I have not even ordered a drink for myself and everyone is leaving me alone. I've got one hand on this girl's ass and the other is clutching the can of LEO from 7/11 for dear life. I dare not open it. It has to last 3 more hours.

Then, the bar tender comes over. I'm fully expecting her to force me to order a drink. I shutter with worry and I begin to sweat. Out of sheer amazement, she asks if I would like my free lasagne. I jump out of my chair and say a big yes. I run over to the serving area and help myself. The girl, who I forgot to mention, her name was Pop, also comes over and stops me. She says, allow me, and finishes serving the lasagne for me and carries it back to our seat.

I gobble the lasagne down like it is going out of style. Then Pop grabs a napkin and cleans my mouth and face for me. She then starts grabbing my dick and caressing it. Wow, this must have been the best hair day ever. Then she says, let's go upstairs. Then a big wave of disappointment comes over me as I wonder, how am I going to get out of this. I don't even have the 800 baht I would have normally offered her. I ask her ever so quietly how much. She says, she will pay me 3000 baht! I almost fall off my chair. I eagerly agree, but with one condition. No BJ. I'm afraid I've got a sweaty and smelly ball sack from the long walk and I don't want her to get spooked.

She responds to my condition by countering with ok no BJ, but I want 3 shots and BBFS CIP. I think to myself for a minute and then hesitantly agree.

We go upstairs and get into bed. I start to feel a little tired and ask her to hurry up. She says no, she wants to take her time. I say please hurry, it's past my nap time. Then I tell her if you need more time, you have to pay upfront. She agrees and gets the money.

I lay there naked on the bed while she jumps on top of me and starts to ride. I lay there motionless. After 10 minutes of this, I finish. She says wait, you agreed to 2 more pops. I tell her to wait a few minutes. Then my phone rings, it's my room mate. I put him on speaker phone and he tells me he forgot his key and needs me to go back to the room to let him in. I look at Pop and say I have to go. Pop looks so sad, but gets dressed. She walks me down stairs, walks me to the door, gives me a kiss on the cheek and I'm off. Phew. I got away with it. No bar bill, free food, a free ST and money in my pocket. "Winning".

Here is her photo. Oh and a photo of the girl too.[/QUOTE]The pizza looks great.

For the newbies, the post above was 100% snark. ET probably paid the lady 10,000 baht, but didn't bother going to the ST room.

I'm not in Pattaya, but I can see from Facebook that ladies are busy with customers. Many are on long time barfines, including travel to other places.

Although there are more ladies working in Pattaya, more of the good ones are barfined. Many of those will soon be sponsored up, and go back to the village until their sucker realizes he's an idiot and stops sending money.

I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885590]I don't mind if Soi 6 is Koreanized, but when they do the same east of Second Road, Pattaya will be ruined.[/QUOTE]Now here's a fun bit of news - Indians have just been granted visa free entry into Thailand.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]Your big head lost the battle. Never had a problem going to a chick's place in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2885834]Now here's a fun bit of news - Indians have just been granted visa free entry into Thailand.[/QUOTE]Except in isolated situations, South Asians are mostly irrelevant on the mongering scene. There *are* wealthy Indians who overpay, but that's really rare. And they are balanced out by the many Indians who pay bottom dollar for ladies who I wouldn't touch.

If you go to Soi 6, you will see Koreans inside the bars throwing money around, and Indians out on the street walking back and forth.

Explorer. You are wrong about EverythingThai's post. That is Lasagna in the picture, not Pizza.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885738]I ask her ever so quietly how much. She says, she will pay me 3000 baht![/QUOTE]Let me guess, when you got to Suvarnabhumi Airport, you fucked a hottie at the check-in desk who gave you a free first class ticket by way of thanks?

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]Wait a minute. An 18 year old who had a condo?

There is something wrong with that story.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2885738]I heard from many that gentlemen clubs in Pattaya are really good for value. As everyone knows, I am on a very strict budget. Secondly, I am very good lookin. I don't like to pay for pussy. At least not much. This past Thursday, while waiting for my transfer, I was thinking 5 more hours with no money. What should I do. Having just topped up my daily internet package, I started to search how I could get free food. I came across Cat Flaps in Pratumnak's free lasagne day. Perfect. Wait a minute. I need to buy a lady drink. How to get around this. No problem for a super duper handsome man like me. So off I went.

I stay at a guest house on the dark side for 2500 Baht per month. One of the best fan rooms I've ever had. I grab my phone and off I go on the two hour walk. I need to make it on time for the 13:00 opening. I stop at 7/11 and grab a can of LEO using the last of my cash. Then continue on.

I arrive at Cat Flaps around 13:15, phew. I'm greeted by the girls all lined up on both sides of the door. I strut through the middle of them like Rico Suave and grab a chair at the bar, not forgetting to do my famous wink / nod to a hot girl on the left. Except this time, it works. I didn't even need the 20 baht note. The girl follows me over and sits down beside me. We start chatting. Immediately, we finish with the usual pleasantries and she started kissing my neck. No mention of any drink yet. Wow, I must be having a really good hair day. 👍.

After about 20 minutes of heavy petting. I see the lasagne being brought out. How do I navigate this, I think to myself. By the way, up until this point, I have not even ordered a drink for myself and everyone is leaving me alone. I've got one hand on this girl's ass and the other is clutching the can of LEO from 7/11 for dear life. I dare not open it. It has to last 3 more hours.

Then, the bar tender comes over. I'm fully expecting her to force me to order a drink. I shutter with worry and I begin to sweat. Out of sheer amazement, she asks if I would like my free lasagne. I jump out of my chair and say a big yes. I run over to the serving area and help myself. The girl, who I forgot to mention, her name was Pop, also comes over and stops me. She says, allow me, and finishes serving the lasagne for me and carries it back to our seat.

I gobble the lasagne down like it is going out of style. Then Pop grabs a napkin and cleans my mouth and face for me. She then starts grabbing my dick and caressing it. Wow, this must have been the best hair day ever. Then she says, let's go upstairs. Then a big wave of disappointment comes over me as I wonder, how am I going to get out of this. I don't even have the 800 baht I would have normally offered her. I ask her ever so quietly how much. She says, she will pay me 3000 baht! I almost fall off my chair. I eagerly agree, but with one condition. No BJ. I'm afraid I've got a sweaty and smelly ball sack from the long walk and I don't want her to get spooked.

She responds to my condition by countering with ok no BJ, but I want 3 shots and BBFS CIP. I think to myself for a minute and then hesitantly agree.

We go upstairs and get into bed. I start to feel a little tired and ask her to hurry up. She says no, she wants to take her time. I say please hurry, it's past my nap time. Then I tell her if you need more time, you have to pay upfront. She agrees and gets the money.

I lay there naked on the bed while she jumps on top of me and starts to ride. I lay there motionless. After 10 minutes of this, I finish. She says wait, you agreed to 2 more pops. I tell her to wait a few minutes. Then my phone rings, it's my room mate. I put him on speaker phone and he tells me he forgot his key and needs me to go back to the room to let him in. I look at Pop and say I have to go. Pop looks so sad, but gets dressed. She walks me down stairs, walks me to the door, gives me a kiss on the cheek and I'm off. Phew. I got away with it. No bar bill, free food, a free ST and money in my pocket. "Winning".

Here is her photo. Oh and a photo of the girl too. 😜.[/QUOTE]Pointless post.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]I personally don't visit ladies at their place. I would advise against it. Just offer to pay them a few hundred baht extra to come to you and they'll oblige.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2885837]Your big head lost the battle. Never had a problem going to a chick's place in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean you won't in the future.

Anything can happen and with thousands of ladies on offer in Pattaya why go out of your way and put yourself in potential danger for one?

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2885908]Let me guess, when you got to Suvarnabhumi Airport, you fucked a hottie at the check-in desk who gave you a free first class ticket by way of thanks?[/QUOTE]You got it Back Azzwards. ET gave the ✔65039; check in girl a Free 1st class ticket.

Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.

This Forum did ET dirty. We got him good. I'm actually Sorry for getting on his case.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]Funny enough, when I was in Pattaya a month ago I connected with an 18 year old who wanted me to go to her condo. I didn't feel comfortable and after a LONG series of texts, she finally agreed for me to send her a Grab to come to my condo. She claimed that she didn't have data on her phone and wanted to stay on her condo wifi. She was 18, blonde hair past her shoulders, great little body. If she's the same girl and you passed, you missed out. The 18 year old I had was AMAZING. Hot AF.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2885934]Pointless post.[/QUOTE]It was snark.

ET is accused here of wildly overspending, so he wrote a fictitious story about spending 0 baht.

I prefer reality myself. If ET wants to spend crazy money, up to him.

How about the quality there and prices if someone checked recently? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2885965]How about the quality there and prices if someone checked recently? Thanks.[/QUOTE]1000 baht will get you some fun.

Quality varies, you'll have to check it out.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2885937]Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean you won't in the future.

Anything can happen and with thousands of ladies on offer in Pattaya why go out of your way and put yourself in potential danger for one?[/QUOTE]It is Pattaya, not Medellin!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885811]I'm not in Pattaya, but I can see from Facebook that ladies are busy with customers. Many are on long time barfines, including travel to other places.

Although there are more ladies working in Pattaya, more of the good ones are barfined. Many of those will soon be sponsored up, and go back to the village until their sucker realizes he's an idiot and stops sending money.[/QUOTE]Yes, difficult to get hold of any looker right now. Several ones I could get hold of easily in August are now gone or unavailable.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885916]Wait a minute. An 18 year old who had a condo?

There is something wrong with that story.[/QUOTE]I've never had security concerns going to a girl's place. Occasionally there will be additional requests for lunch, drinks etc if there are others there but it wasn't anything too over the top.

My guess is that Daddy was out of town so she was making hey while the sun shines. I've had that many times.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2885965]How about the quality there and prices if someone checked recently? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I won't be the one who tells you to go scroll 📜 back 1,000 pages.

If you do look for Raj Patelas accurate assessment s.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2885937]Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean you won't in the future.

Anything can happen and with thousands of ladies on offer in Pattaya why go out of your way and put yourself in potential danger for one?[/QUOTE]Yep, makes sense to me, why risk it. BTW, her google address showed they were condo apartments, can't be certain if they belong to her (not like she sent me a deed off sale and I put on my legal hat to verify, although one girl on TF sent me her test results which was surprising, so I guess anything is possible if I ask LOL).

[QUOTE=Goferring;2886013]I've never had security concerns going to a girl's place. Occasionally there will be additional requests for lunch, drinks etc if there are others there but it wasn't anything too over the top.

My guess is that Daddy was out of town so she was making hey while the sun shines. I've had that many times.[/QUOTE]I am with you Mate. Would not have gone.

Only have to be wrong once and your dead or fucked up.

Plenty of others.

Have fun Mate.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2886013]I've never had security concerns going to a girl's place. Occasionally there will be additional requests for lunch, drinks etc if there are others there but it wasn't anything too over the top.

My guess is that Daddy was out of town so she was making hey while the sun shines. I've had that many times.[/QUOTE]This particular story is a big red flag.

Somebody paid for that condo, and if they happen to show up when the monger is in bed with the 18 year old, then the story might end sadly.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2885813]I contacted a TF who wanted me to come to her place. I didn't go through with it as I deemed it unsafe and risky to visit a girl at her condo in a foreign country. She was 18 and super hot but my big head won this battle. Is it generally safe to visit a girl at her location? Have you had a encounter with thai police and them shaking you down for money?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2885837]Your big head lost the battle. Never had a problem going to a chick's place in Thailand.[/QUOTE]

I never had a problem either and have visited quite a few girl's places over the years. However never before meeting in my place first ie only gone to places of girls I know at least somehow.

However, read in another forum that there indeed are pros in Pattaya who may record the action (possibly with help of bf/pimp) without telling you, and make it public or try to cash their art somehow, so be aware.

18 yr living in a condo smells a bit., though could be legit too eg could be sharing the place with older 'sister'.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2886082]I never had a problem either and have visited quite a few girl's places over the years. However never before meeting in my place first ie only gone to places of girls I know at least somehow.

However, read in another forum that there indeed are pros in Pattaya who may record the action (possibly with help of bf/pimp) without telling you, and make it public or try to cash their art somehow, so be aware.

18 yr living in a condo smells a bit., though could be legit too eg could be sharing the place with older 'sister'.[/QUOTE]It could be that her Farang customer went out of town, and she was trying to raise some easy money.

Maybe she couldn't enter a short term hotel because of her age, or maybe she wasn't quite 18 yet.

So, it could have been a Pattaya police trap.

[QUOTE=NvRoberto;2885958]Funny enough, when I was in Pattaya a month ago I connected with an 18 year old who wanted me to go to her condo. I didn't feel comfortable and after a LONG series of texts, she finally agreed for me to send her a Grab to come to my condo. She claimed that she didn't have data on her phone and wanted to stay on her condo wifi. She was 18, blonde hair past her shoulders, great little body. If she's the same girl and you passed, you missed out. The 18 year old I had was AMAZING. Hot AF.[/QUOTE]What a cruel thing to say. I wasn't there, but even I'm now banging my head on the desk in frustrated regret on LAHenry's behalf after reading that.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2886055]This particular story is a big red flag.

Somebody paid for that condo, and if they happen to show up when the monger is in bed with the 18 year old, then the story might end sadly.[/QUOTE]Red flag how? Yes somebody paid for that condo. That is not to say there are not 2 girls renting said condo and paying 2,000 baht each per month. Or the chick alone could be paying 4,000. It is Pattaya, not Manhattan. Nirun Condo does not cost 40,000 baht per month guys. No red flags here.

Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885967]1000 baht will get you some fun.

Quality varies, you'll have to check it out.[/QUOTE]Really? Sounds cheap during this period of time. I see 30 year old girls asking for 2000 baht for ST, barfine is not included. I. E 2500 baht, that's 65 euro. Average looking women. The same women that thai-men pay 700 baht for.

Yeah, good. Go to Thailand and pay around 1000 euro for the flight then go and fuck average looking women for 65 euros. Sounds like a winner right?

I can not seriously see Pattaya being worth a flight an vacation when prices are like that.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2886082]....However, read in another forum that there indeed are pros in Pattaya who may record the action (possibly with help of bf/pimp) without telling you, and make it public or try to cash their art somehow, so be aware......[/QUOTE]In that case I'll go wearing a mask so will not be recognized. No problem with a video showing my ass going up and down.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2886184]Really? Sounds cheap during this period of time. I see 30 year old girls asking for 2000 baht for ST, barfine is not included. I. E 2500 baht, that's 65 euro. Average looking women. The same women that thai-men pay 700 baht for.

Yeah, good. Go to Thailand and pay around 1000 euro for the flight then go and fuck average looking women for 65 euros. Sounds like a winner right?

I can not seriously see Pattaya being worth a flight an vacation when prices are like that.[/QUOTE]Agree. And if you are taking a girl from a gogo the BF probably no less than 1000,add some ladydrink and that's about 100 EUR for a shag. I mean for that money you can easily get laid pretty much anywhere in Europe. And we are talking about some average quality here. But if you are into taking girls LT then there is still value, I guess.

The problem is nowadays there are not many cheaper alternatives to Thailand. Philippines similar prices or little cheaper but crap. Phnom Penh same. Saigon too.

Yes in Uganda had pre- covid some nice girls for 10-20 eur BUT Kampala is a shithole and hotels much more expensive. Kenya same, been to Mombasa twice.

It is what it is. Frankly I think sex is an overrated thing LOL.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886169]Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]They may ask a surcharge for transport to do outcalls.

I remember these girls from Soi 6 years ago. Had the pleasure of some fun and fond memories with them. Glad I was able to be one of the few to help them out during COVID lockdown and bar closures. They have since come up in the world.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@itsjannybb[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886169]Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]Some bargirls will refuse to go to Jomtien from Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2886376]Some bargirls will refuse to go to Jomtien from Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Ah bummer that's good to know, thank you. I'm not sure if it makes a difference but actually I was looking at Dongtan Beach area, specifically Rabbit Resort. Seems a little closer, but not sure if that makes a difference.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2886209]Agree. And if you are taking a girl from a gogo the BF probably no less than 1000,add some ladydrink and that's about 100 EUR for a shag. I mean for that money you can easily get laid pretty much anywhere in Europe. And we are talking about some average quality here. But if you are into taking girls LT then there is still value, I guess.

The problem is nowadays there are not many cheaper alternatives to Thailand. Philippines similar prices or little cheaper but crap. Phnom Penh same. Saigon too.

Yes in Uganda had pre- covid some nice girls for 10-20 eur BUT Kampala is a shithole and hotels much more expensive. Kenya same, been to Mombasa twice.

It is what it is. Frankly I think sex is an overrated thing LOL.[/QUOTE]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]I love this Topic.

One prolific Sexpat pays 2,000 long time. Drinks probably minimal as sources from 7. 11. LOL. Hahaha.

Others pay girls fee of 2,ooo plus barfine plus drinks, etc.

It matters what kind of Girls you like.

7's and above or the less than attractive.

Another data point is our Beloved Commander who gets Hotties to Service him at his Palatial Palace for 1,000 and below.

In other words price Depends.

Another data point Indians paying 10,000 at Jannat. LOL. Hahaha. Okay Bro.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]You will never know if you do not go. From being on this board over the years, it seems that most guys consider 2000 baht a bargain whether short or long.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]Gogos = 3000ST (plus barfine).

Soi 6 = 1500ST (maybe more).

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]The better-looking girls on TF or on Soi 6 willl quote 2000 for short time. On Soi 6 you need to add 350-400 for the room. That's only for the better-looking ones though, ie the top 15% on Soi 6 and maybe the top 20% on TF.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]Well you have to go and decide for yourself if it is worth or not. The pros are the sheer amount of available girls. You can visit some gogo bars and have a good time watching the show for the mere price of a beer. Even get a BJ in the bar for a small tip and / or ladydrink. Hotels are cheap, so are drinks and food.

But getting a cheap fuck is another story. Apparently there are still some okay looking freelancers to be found on Beach road that will go for 1000 baht (ST). Good. When I was 1st time in Pattaya, in 2013 I was paying half of that amount. But in 2019 already being quoted 1000 and more.

Thaifriendly is the other option. Maybe you can find something acceptable for 1500. ST of course. I don't think a lot of girls would go for 2000 LT. But who knows, you might get lucky.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2886510]Well you have to go and decide for yourself if it is worth or not. The pros are the sheer amount of available girls. You can visit some gogo bars and have a good time watching the show for the mere price of a beer. Even get a BJ in the bar for a small tip and / or ladydrink. Hotels are cheap, so are drinks and food.

But getting a cheap fuck is another story. Apparently there are still some okay looking freelancers to be found on Beach road that will go for 1000 baht (ST). Good. When I was 1st time in Pattaya, in 2013 I was paying half of that amount. But in 2019 already being quoted 1000 and more.

Thaifriendly is the other option. Maybe you can find something acceptable for 1500. ST of course. I don't think a lot of girls would go for 2000 LT. But who knows, you might get lucky.[/QUOTE]What does ST entail these days? If it is a couple of hours and multiple gos wouldn't mind that price point. Better than Tijuana LOL. If its a clock watched 1 hour Euro style maybe a different story.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886517]What does ST entail these days? If it is a couple of hours and multiple gos wouldn't mind that price point. Better than Tijuana LOL. If its a clock watched 1 hour Euro style maybe a different story.[/QUOTE]Its one shot (usually).

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2886342]I remember these girls from Soi 6 years ago. Had the pleasure of some fun and fond memories with them. Glad I was able to be one of the few to help them out during COVID lockdown and bar closures. They have since come up in the world.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@itsjannybb[/URL][/QUOTE]Lucky man! They are definitely cute. But looks like they hit it pretty good on social media and OF. Janny def looked better before the boob job IMO.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886478]Is pattaya still worth it with these inflated prices if one has never been? 2 k baht seems steep for me, is this for long time or short time?[/QUOTE]Where are you finding ladies for $60? Let us know, and many will go there.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886435]Ah bummer that's good to know, thank you. I'm not sure if it makes a difference but actually I was looking at Dongtan Beach area, specifically Rabbit Resort. Seems a little closer, but not sure if that makes a difference.[/QUOTE]Maybe yes, maybe no, I think this depends on the time of year, time of day, the Girl, the price, the pitch- in my past two visits I stayed in Dongtan Beach (about Jomtien Soi 0) 30 days each visit, I had two ladies who wanted extra taxi money from Nakuala +140, the other 50+ ladies had no objection. Remember, quite a few ladies live in Jomtien and South Pattaya, Cheers.

[QUOTE=Davey1965;2886544]Lucky man! They are definitely cute. But looks like they hit it pretty good on social media and OF. Janny def looked better before the boob job IMO.[/QUOTE]I think once in awhile they work at the Treetown bars behind the food court. During COVID I intro them to OF, but some other guys set up the online game for them. Most of the better girls that speak English have different sources of incomes not limited to just drinks and barfines. Some of my formers even have gone into porn. Wouldn't surprise me if they make 2-300,000 baht or more a month from all their revenue streams and sponsors all over the world. Once Janny told me her food and rent was taken care of daily just from online gifts sent. Yeah you are correct, her perky "BB" tits were much better. Boob job is not one of the better tear drop natural looks. Dunno why some girls go for the bazooka looks.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2886517]What does ST entail these days? If it is a couple of hours and multiple gos wouldn't mind that price point. Better than Tijuana LOL. If its a clock watched 1 hour Euro style maybe a different story.[/QUOTE]ST is usually "You come, I go".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2886493]You will never know if you do not go. From being on this board over the years, it seems that most guys consider 2000 baht a bargain whether short or long.[/QUOTE]2 k depends on girls look age and appearance. I don't consider 2 k a deal on Soi 6 unless she is an 8 or 2 k becomes the official price most guys are paying. The girls are trying to push it up to 1500. I think 2 k for a 6 on Soi 6 would cause me to take a break from Pattaya.

[QUOTE=StLouisMo2010;2886652]Maybe yes, maybe no, I think this depends on the time of year, time of day, the Girl, the price, the pitch- in my past two visits I stayed in Dongtan Beach (about Jomtien Soi 0) 30 days each visit, I had two ladies who wanted extra taxi money from Nakuala +140, the other 50+ ladies had no objection. Remember, quite a few ladies live in Jomtien and South Pattaya, Cheers.[/QUOTE]That's very reassuring, thank you! I kind of have my heart set on having peace and quiet in the daytime.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886169]Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]Keep your place in Jomtien and book a cheap hotel ($20-$25) near the Soi you prefer. That way she doesn't know what you have going on in Jomtien.

I'll be in Pattaya for three weeks in March (as well as 10 days in Philippines), diary incoming.

I've trawled back 100 pages but haven't found a lot of info about the new beer bar complex where Soi Made in Thailand used to be, I think it's called Myth. Any good? Does it have consistent barfine prices or is it all over the place like Tree Town?

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2886758]I'll be in Pattaya for three weeks in March (as well as 10 days in Philippines), diary incoming.

I've trawled back 100 pages but haven't found a lot of info about the new beer bar complex where Soi Made in Thailand used to be, I think it's called Myth. Any good? Does it have consistent barfine prices or is it all over the place like Tree Town?[/QUOTE]There are hundreds of videos of Myth on YouTube It appears to be hit or miss; same as all of central Pattaya these days.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2886758]I'll be in Pattaya for three weeks in March (as well as 10 days in Philippines), diary incoming.

I've trawled back 100 pages but haven't found a lot of info about the new beer bar complex where Soi Made in Thailand used to be, I think it's called Myth. Any good? Does it have consistent barfine prices or is it all over the place like Tree Town?[/QUOTE]For sure, you are not going to find consistent pricing in a collection of bars.

Warning. Only for those of you who deal with girls who have bfs and husband's.

Be careful. Last night You tuber Slightly Homeless. Good looking young guy was at a Thai Bar. He thinks he is a Casanova,. Apparently the Thai Boys weren't amused. Surrounded him and Knocked his Camera out of his Hand.

Luckily someone not Thai got involved and may have saved his life.

I didn't see it but heard about it.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886169]Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]How long are you coming for? You might want to book a short time in Jomtien, to see how it works for you. I have been staying in Jomtien. At first I like it, then I soon get sick of travelling up to Pattaya. Takes longer than you think. Bolt motorcycles feel like death race 2000. My ST PSE requests an extra 100 from Pattaya and I pay it. Most girls want ST these days, and so won't want to travel far, as they want to get back to the bar. Unless it is late at night and they live here.

It is a long way from Soi6. You could stay in Wongamat which is lovely, quiet at night and easier commute to Soi6.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887137]I can't afford 2000 Baht LT in Pattaya. Are you kidding? That's almost the same as the monthly rent for my fan room. I still have that LEO from my trip to 7/11 and Catalpas. It looks a little shabby though. LOL.[/QUOTE]For the newbies: the quoted post is snark. He's not serious.

Reports at this time come during High Season, when there is maximum demand for ladies. Pro tip: don't come to Pattaya during High Season, unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money.

Prices quoted here will be much lower after Songkran.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887112]It's funny about how some of us think inflation is non existent for sellers and only exists for the buyers.[/QUOTE]Of course inflation is existent in Pattaya, but 100% inflation is not existent. The price of what has doubled besides hookers, bars, and the tax that the government put on cigarettes? One company (I think it was Chang) tried to go up on their bottled water prices and the government told them they could cancel that idea.

If Soi 6 went from 1000 baht to 1050 baht, then we could talk about inflation. From 1000 baht to 2000 baht, then somebody is getting ripped the fuck off. Has the price of your 2500 baht room changed? Because the price of my 4500 baht room has not moved 1 baht in 15 years and I am sure inflation would affect the seller that is my landlord.

Prices on Soi 6 and the gogos are impacted by the Korean 2 week millionaires. Inflation is not a factor.

And impacted soon by the lonely guys who go home and send money to "their" bargirl.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2887144]Reports at this time come during High Season, when there is maximum demand for ladies. Pro tip: don't come to Pattaya during High Season, unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money.

Prices quoted here will be much lower after Songkran.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, the Agogo's are not too happy? Or the punters are skipping WS? IMHO, there is always a good time to go to Thailand.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2887039]Warning. Only for those of you who deal with girls who have bfs and husband's.

Be careful. Last night You tuber Slightly Homeless. Good looking young guy was at a Thai Bar. He thinks he is a Casanova,. Apparently the Thai Boys weren't amused. Surrounded him and Knocked his Camera out of his Hand.

Luckily someone not Thai got involved and may have saved his life.

I didn't see it but heard about it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Thai bars are different because sometimes Thai husbands will show up to buy drinks for their wives, or sometimes just to watch.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2887143]For the newbies: the quoted post is snark. He's not serious.[/QUOTE]Are you sure these latest ones are the unserious snarky ones and the earlier ones about buying 40 Lady Drinks for a Soi 6 bargirl and slipping an extra 100 baht note for her under each drink were not the ones where he was only kidding around?

Hehe.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2887151]Of course inflation is existent in Pattaya, but 100% inflation is not existent. The price of what has doubled besides hookers, bars, and the tax that the government put on cigarettes? One company (I think it was Chang) tried to go up on their bottled water prices and the government told them they could cancel that idea.

If Soi 6 went from 1000 baht to 1050 baht, then we could talk about inflation. From 1000 baht to 2000 baht, then somebody is getting ripped the fuck off. Has the price of your 2500 baht room changed? Because the price of my 4500 baht room has not moved 1 baht in 15 years and I am sure inflation would affect the seller that is my landlord.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The level of mongering inflation shouldn't be double. Doesn't make sense. That's why I don't pay it and why as Explorer commented, I go to Thailand in low season for better pricing. At this point it seems like this EverythingThai commenter has a stake in bars on Soi 6 given the way he defends it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2887151]Of course inflation is existent in Pattaya, but 100% inflation is not existent. The price of what has doubled besides hookers, bars, and the tax that the government put on cigarettes? One company (I think it was Chang) tried to go up on their bottled water prices and the government told them they could cancel that idea.

If Soi 6 went from 1000 baht to 1050 baht, then we could talk about inflation. From 1000 baht to 2000 baht, then somebody is getting ripped the fuck off. Has the price of your 2500 baht room changed? Because the price of my 4500 baht room has not moved 1 baht in 15 years and I am sure inflation would affect the seller that is my landlord.[/QUOTE]At last someone who understands that there has not been any 50-100 % inflation in Thailand during covid. Its price increases because they want to make more money from tourists, nothing else. Thank you!

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887112]So, in your mind, it seems that ST Soi 6 prices should be 1000 Baht plus the room and the girls are trying to move that to 1500 plus the room. I would say that you are sadly mistaken. Further, lets just say that you are correct and in your mind, ST on soi 6 should be 1000 Baht plus the room and the girls are now asking 2000 Baht plus the room. If that makes you want to take a break from Pattaya, you better just stop coming all together, as prices won't go down. Maybe Pattaya is just too expensive for you. It's funny about how some of us think inflation is non existent for sellers and only exists for the buyers. lol. So again, just don't come. You better not stretch your budget or you will be living in a fan room for 2500 Bhat per month the same as me.[/QUOTE]Stop this silly talk about "if pattaya is to expensive for you bla bla. ".

Its not about that, its about that the girls are adding +50-100% more than what they would ask from thaimen.

It did not used to be like that, prices used to be lower and more in line with what they ask from thaimen.

I can also go to Pattaya without breaking my entire bank account but I clearly see when they are setting special touristprices.

I add a little picture for you here so you can se the differance between what thais pay and what you pay.

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;2887200]As far as I know, the Agogo's are not too happy? Or the punters are skipping WS? IMHO, there is always a good time to go to Thailand.[/QUOTE]This is a Big One. Go anytime you feel like it is the Answer.

Pattaya is Dieing. Not in the sense it will go away.

But Business is down and 100 million Indians won't be the Cure.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887137]I can't afford 2000 Baht LT in Pattaya. Are you kidding? That's almost the same as the monthly rent for my fan room. I still have that LEO from my trip to 7/11 and Catalpas. It looks a little shabby though. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not about you bro. I've decided to give you a Break. You seem a bit oversensitive. LOL.

Our Exploration Dude pays 2 k long time. Bargain or he get old Bargirls.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2887248]Its not about that, its about that the girls are adding +50-100% more than what they would ask from thaimen.
[/QUOTE]They know that very few Thai men have the money that is available from many farang.

I don't have a problem with suppliers charging different prices to different customers. Prior to retirement, I did the same thing with my consulting business. The enjoyable customers were charged less per hour then the unpleasant customers. One of my customers was charged triple compared to my most favored customer. I didn't want to work with certain customers unless they gave me lots of money. The girls are looking to maximize their incomes while having the most pleasant work experiences. Essentially the same thing that I did. Why not?

From the buyer's perspective, I'm happy to spend top money for top service from a hottie. I'll also pay top money for a non-hottie if she has provided exceptional service in the past.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2887248]At last someone who understands that there has not been any 50-100 % inflation in Thailand during covid. Its price increases because they want to make more money from tourists, nothing else. Thank you!

Stop this silly talk about "if pattaya is to expensive for you bla bla. ".

Its not about that, its about that the girls are adding +50-100% more than what they would ask from thaimen.

It did not used to be like that, prices used to be lower and more in line with what they ask from thaimen.

I can also go to Pattaya without breaking my entire bank account but I clearly see when they are setting special touristprices.

I add a little picture for you here so you can se the differance between what thais pay and what you pay.[/QUOTE]If the Thai man is enough, the bargirl will give him money.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2887276]They know that very few Thai men have the money that is available from many farang.

I don't have a problem with suppliers charging different prices to different customers. Prior to retirement, I did the same thing with my consulting business. The enjoyable customers were charged less per hour then the unpleasant customers. One of my customers was charged triple compared to my most favored customer. I didn't want to work with certain customers unless they gave me lots of money. The girls are looking to maximize their incomes while having the most pleasant work experiences. Essentially the same thing that I did. Why not?

From the buyer's perspective, I'm happy to spend top money for top service from a hottie. I'll also pay top money for a non-hottie if she has provided exceptional service in the past.[/QUOTE]It's a Rare girl who would charge 3,000 to a Korean than charge 1500 to her neighbor next door. Makes no sense.

I can't see Superstar Rainbow 4 girl who gets multiple customers a night doing favor to a Taxi guy and charge him 500 baht. LOL. Hahaha. Unless Thai man better than Mr Nakamura.

I can see a girl who works Rainbow and get no customers charging Taxi man 500 baht. Is she really charging 3 k if no one Bites.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2887248]At last someone who understands that there has not been any 50-100 % inflation in Thailand during covid. Its price increases because they want to make more money from tourists, nothing else. Thank you!

Stop this silly talk about "if pattaya is to expensive for you bla bla. ".

Its not about that, its about that the girls are adding +50-100% more than what they would ask from thaimen.

It did not used to be like that, prices used to be lower and more in line with what they ask from thaimen.

I can also go to Pattaya without breaking my entire bank account but I clearly see when they are setting special touristprices.

I add a little picture for you here so you can se the differance between what thais pay and what you pay.[/QUOTE]Do you think I don't know that? If I want to go see ladies in Bangkok who normally deal with Thai clients, I can. I can speak Thai and have no troubles paying these girls their 1300 baht ST. CFS. I take advantage of all the options. Crack on mate and waste your time fighting over 700 Baht. I could care less. For me, time is money. If you want to waste time over 700 Baht, that's your choice, it's just not mine. To each their own. It's your money. Not mine.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2887253]Not about you bro. I've decided to give you a Break. You seem a bit oversensitive. LOL.

Our Exploration Dude pays 2 k long time. Bargain or he get old Bargirls.[/QUOTE]No need to give me a break. If you don't get it by now, my CC alter ego is a parody of a well known ISger with many user names. In Pattaya, we know him as Jason Finch and on ISG we know him as 40 drinks, Raj Patel, and dam I forgot about all the others.

I recently had a great time at Club Fate. Two Laos girls working there really got it going on. Post coming soon.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2887143]For the newbies: the quoted post is snark. He's not serious.[/QUOTE]Are you the snark police LOL? How many times are you going to post this?

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;2887200]As far as I know, the Agogo's are not too happy? Or the punters are skipping WS? IMHO, there is always a good time to go to Thailand.[/QUOTE]I was on WS on Saturday night last week and it was jammed. Not sure what you are talking about. Could not move in Pin Up and XS or farenhight. Moon go go didn't have many girls left as they got bar fined. I could go on..........

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2887253]Not about you bro. I've decided to give you a Break. You seem a bit oversensitive. LOL.

Our Exploration Dude pays 2 k long time. Bargain or he get old Bargirls.[/QUOTE]Explorer does not get old bar girls. On the contrary, he just chooses to monger in places like Maggie Mays where the girls charge very reasonable rates. Yawn. End of story.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2886758]I'll be in Pattaya for three weeks in March (as well as 10 days in Philippines), diary incoming.

I've trawled back 100 pages but haven't found a lot of info about the new beer bar complex where Soi Made in Thailand used to be, I think it's called Myth. Any good? Does it have consistent barfine prices or is it all over the place like Tree Town?[/QUOTE]Passed by tonight and it was quite busy, not super full but busy. Nice music, and nice atmosphere. Spotted some beauties too, but here YMMV. I just checked a bar where I had a drink and then left and the girl asked 2000 for ST and 600 BF.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887365]Explorer does not get old bar girls. On the contrary, he just chooses to monger in places like Maggie Mays where the girls charge very reasonable rates. Yawn. End of story.[/QUOTE]My posts are aimed at the never has been to Pattaya Types. Exponentiell gets good rates be ause he is OK with Old Non Lookers.

Hats off to he.

[QUOTE=StevePtt;2887111]How long are you coming for? You might want to book a short time in Jomtien, to see how it works for you. I have been staying in Jomtien. At first I like it, then I soon get sick of travelling up to Pattaya. Takes longer than you think. Bolt motorcycles feel like death race 2000. My ST PSE requests an extra 100 from Pattaya and I pay it. Most girls want ST these days, and so won't want to travel far, as they want to get back to the bar. Unless it is late at night and they live here.

It is a long way from Soi6. You could stay in Wongamat which is lovely, quiet at night and easier commute to Soi6.[/QUOTE]Very good points. I was thinking of taking the other advice about a side hotel, but this seems to hit home. I'll keep searching to try to find a hotel I like closer by, maybe the Hilton. I can also take a day trip to Jomtien I guess.

Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2887365]Explorer does not get old bar girls. On the contrary, he just chooses to monger in places like Maggie Mays where the girls charge very reasonable rates. Yawn. End of story.[/QUOTE]I'll buy you 40 drinks in March at the Soi6 crime scene. I'll explain to how Pricing works. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2886169]Hello everyone. I have been to Pattaya twice in my life and really enjoyed it, especially around Soi 6. But at the same time, I need peace and quiet while not doing my business. Therefore I was considering staying in Jomtien Beach area and then taking bolt or bus to the action. Have others done this and is this common? Importantly, will girls from Gogos or beer bars come with me to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]I spent a month last year in Jomtien to try it and learn the ropes, definitely action there just have to spend a little time learning where it is. Unless your a hard core agogo guy you should be fine. I don't like making the trip between jomtien and Pattaya a lot.

I went to Cambodia on a bus from a visa company I happened to see. The cost was 3200 baht though the guy sitting next to me said he only paid 2600 baht. Bus picked me up at 5:30 and I was back at my hotel by 3 pm. We stopped halfway there for bathroom break and half way back for lunch. I was told I needed two passport photos but no one took them so I didn't need, who knows if other people did. All I did when I got to Cambodia was stand in whatever line I was told to and then went to next line. I didn't time how long I was there but I'd guess about an hour.

My personal stuff is I left thailand for a week after being here a month and got first extension that way and the second extension by going to immigration office. This is my 3rd extension.

All in all easy peasy.

[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2887546]Very good points. I was thinking of taking the other advice about a side hotel, but this seems to hit home. I'll keep searching to try to find a hotel I like closer by, maybe the Hilton. I can also take a day trip to Jomtien I guess.

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Until my last trip the advice I was given was that it was a waste of nights to go to Jomtien. I decided to take that advice but do a trip one day and one night to see what I thought. Well, the advice I got was bad IMHO. Jomtien, or more specifically Pratumnak, is not only a LOT quieter than Pattaya, the beach is far better and the vibe is more chilled. There are still plenty of options, bars, GCs if that's for you, and the noise is far less. The trip to central Pattaya is short and inexpensive. Sure if you go on the back of a bike over that hill it can be hairy if the rider is fast! But either take a normal cab, or the Bhat bus or even walk. It's not that bad. The girls do whine about the distance as if it's miles away. It's not. Just offer a bit extra and they are fine.

Daytime in Jomtien / Pratumnak Hill are so much better than in bustling Pattaya. I'm back soon and will definitely stay in Jomtien this time.

Agreed Pratumnak and Jomtien are nicer in the day than Pattaya. I just rarely find anyone I want to barfine. Wongamat has arguably the best beach and hotels. I would take The Palm, or Cape Dara, seaview, jacuzzi on your balcony, over the Hilton.

I enjoyed Jomtien before, there used to be hundreds of freelancers on the beach and younger women. This week I have been to over a hundred bars around Jomtien. 90% of the women seem over 40. Ugly women will ask for 2 k ST. It was 1 am, I took one of the rare ones in their twenties with a cute face and a trashed body, she asked for 2 k, I gave her 1 k. There are some bars with good live music and it can be good for a pub crawl, or a place to take a woman to play pool. Unless you like women over 40 I can't recommend it.

I went up Pattaya last night and it took 30 minutes at 10 pm just stuck in traffic. I got out and walked the back end into walking street. Windmill 1 was packed and the doormen were charging Asians entrance fees. Windmill 2 was empty and the girls looked bored at 11 pm. Walked into a few gogos and walked out, at the lineup and cover up. I was pulled in to one gogo, other people were served draft beer. The waitress took my order and came back telling me draft beer finished and offered upsell. I just left. I am living in the past, Walking Street used to be wild, fun and cheap. Now I find it tame, touristy and remind myself that for the price of a beer and lady drink I can get laid in Africa.

[QUOTE=StevePtt;2887681] for the price of a beer and lady drink I can get laid in Africa.[/QUOTE]Over in the Africa topics, they complain that for the price of a reasonable hotel in Africa, you can get laid 3 times in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=StevePtt;2887681]
I went up Pattaya last night and it took 30 minutes at 10 pm just stuck in traffic. I got out and walked the back end into walking street. [/QUOTE]Ouch. Maybe I should clarify, I would be going to Soi 6, LK Metro, and WS for my entertainment, possibly twice a day (daytime action and night), and not likely within Jomtien area. At least for me (and to each his own), I've decided that for my short trip I'll stay in Pattaya by the beach to avoid all the complications. I'll just have to make that tradeoff for peace and quiet, and get that in Koh Samui after I depart. Thanks all.

Overlooked?

T21 , top of 2nd, dophin circle there is a hotel at the top like the Hilton. Around the circle heading down Naklua is a nice hotel! Resort starts with a A? Close to beer bar complex but nowhere noisy. Then you got Thai Garden resort across from T21.

Short walk top of beach road songthaw heaven. Girls shouldn't have problem going to this lication.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2887735]Over in the Africa topics, they complain that for the price of a reasonable hotel in Africa, you can get laid 3 times in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Indeed. Cheap pussy is all over the place in Africa. Everything else is in short supply, very expensive and terrible value for money.

Wtf. I walked into this bar because I saw a tiny little hottie who is 20 yrs old and cute as a button. Damn I wanted her, bought couple of rounds of drinks and even though the communication was all through translate, things were going well. So I asked the bar manager (young looking Italian guy) what the bar fine was, and he said 2500 baht! Really? I'm moving on to other bars.

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2887912]Wtf. I walked into this bar because I saw a tiny little hottie who is 20 yrs old and cute as a button. Damn I wanted her, bought couple of rounds of drinks and even though the communication was all through translate, things were going well. So I asked the bar manager (young looking Italian guy) what the bar fine was, and he said 2500 baht! Really? I'm moving on to other bars.[/QUOTE]It's around the same price in every other bars of the soi, they didn't try to scam you.

You could have fucked her on site for 400 baht though (400 being the price of the barfine only, for 1 hour).

So after getting a little discouraged from some of the Go-Go bars on soi 6, I decided to walk up and down Beach road. And most girls were asking 1,500, but I found this really cute 25-year-old hottie with bolt ONS and a tight little fanny. I asked how much abd she said 1,000 baht! Wow. What a deal. Both hopped on a scooter and went back to my hotel, where I had a 1-hour session with GFE. We both showered together, dryed off and hopped into bed. She started with a BBJ and a lot of kissing all over my body. I did multiple positions with a lot of tongue in mouth kissing and finished in the bag. We showered again and off she went. Ahhh. What an experience Pattaya is.

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2887912]Wtf. I walked into this bar because I saw a tiny little hottie who is 20 yrs old and cute as a button. Damn I wanted her, bought couple of rounds of drinks and even though the communication was all through translate, things were going well. So I asked the bar manager (young looking Italian guy) what the bar fine was, and he said 2500 baht! Really? I'm moving on to other bars.[/QUOTE]Before midnight, that's the norm. Why didn't you just take her short time upstairs in their short time rooms?

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2887572]I'll buy you 40 drinks in March at the Soi6 crime scene. I'll explain to how Pricing works. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Oh I thought you were already here.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2888076]Before midnight, that's the norm. Why didn't you just take her short time upstairs in their short time rooms?[/QUOTE]Damn it, that completely slipped my mind. I was too overwhelmed with the Soi 6 activities LOL. It can be a sensory overload. I will go back this evening and see if she's still there. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2887912]Wtf. I walked into this bar because I saw a tiny little hottie who is 20 yrs old and cute as a button. Damn I wanted her, bought couple of rounds of drinks and even though the communication was all through translate, things were going well. So I asked the bar manager (young looking Italian guy) what the bar fine was, and he said 2500 baht! Really? I'm moving on to other bars.[/QUOTE]Depends on the bar. Which bar was this? Slutz in LK Metro?

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2888043]So after getting a little discouraged from some of the Go-Go bars on soi 6, I decided to walk up and down Beach road. And most girls were asking 1,500, but I found this really cute 25-year-old hottie with bolt ONS and a tight little fanny. I asked how much abd she said 1,000 baht! Wow. What a deal. Both hopped on a scooter and went back to my hotel, where I had a 1-hour session with GFE. We both showered together, dryed off and hopped into bed. She started with a BBJ and a lot of kissing all over my body. I did multiple positions with a lot of tongue in mouth kissing and finished in the bag. We showered again and off she went. Ahhh. What an experience Pattaya is.[/QUOTE]LOL 500 you funny.

Has anyone visited Sexy Restaurant KABUKI? Looking to visit, but want to know if anyone has anything bad to say about it [URL]http://all-pattaya.com/kabukisushi/en.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2888043]So after getting a little discouraged from some of the Go-Go bars on soi 6, I decided to walk up and down Beach road. And most girls were asking 1,500, but I found this really cute 25-year-old hottie with bolt ONS and a tight little fanny. I asked how much abd she said 1,000 baht! Wow. What a deal. Both hopped on a scooter and went back to my hotel, where I had a 1-hour session with GFE. We both showered together, dryed off and hopped into bed. She started with a BBJ and a lot of kissing all over my body. I did multiple positions with a lot of tongue in mouth kissing and finished in the bag. We showered again and off she went. Ahhh. What an experience Pattaya is.[/QUOTE]Glad you got a good deal. But 1500ST for BR is quite a bit. In 2013 it was 500-600 I remember. But yeah this is new reality.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2888265]Glad you got a good deal. But 1500ST for BR is quite a bit. In 2013 it was 500-600 I remember. But yeah this is new reality.[/QUOTE]2013 11 years ago really 500 k was enough to buy a brand new house now you need a minimum of 1. 5 million Its 2024 and it will only get worse.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2888265]Glad you got a good deal. But 1500ST for BR is quite a bit. In 2013 it was 500-600 I remember. But yeah this is new reality.[/QUOTE]I think the 1000 baht barfine I pay at some bars is excessive.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2888276]2013 11 years ago really 500 k was enough to buy a brand new house now you need a minimum of 1. 5 million Its 2024 and it will only get worse.[/QUOTE]Yeah as the economic situation in the world is getting worse everything is getting much more expensive but apparently there's no lack of customers.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2888201]Has anyone visited Sexy Restaurant KABUKI? Looking to visit, but want to know if anyone has anything bad to say about it [URL]http://all-pattaya.com/kabukisushi/en.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]
Check google maps. There you find reviews

[QUOTE=Buck011;2888320]Yeah as the economic situation in the world is getting worse everything is getting much more expensive but apparently there's no lack of customers.[/QUOTE]Thee are no providers for 500-600 in 2024 OHH I take that back of course there are if you are hopeless (in Love).

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2888344]Thee are no providers for 500-600 in 2024 OHH I take that back of course there are if you are hopeless (in Love).[/QUOTE]Better read my post carefully my friend before leaving any comments.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2888134]Depends on the bar. Which bar was this? Slutz in LK Metro?[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't mention the name. It was Horny Bar.

[QUOTE=Buck011;2888265]Glad you got a good deal. But 1500ST for BR is quite a bit. In 2013 it was 500-600 I remember. But yeah this is new reality.[/QUOTE]It's all good. I went back out last night on Beach Road and there was still a few hotties asking for 1,000 baht. I didn't pick up because I already had a BJ at Maggie Mae's for 700 baht plus 300 behind the closed curtains LOL.

The bar find here is 300 baht. But the girls are a little below average. But it's still a pretty good price. I did see one cutie but she was already taken up.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2887735]Over in the Africa topics, they complain that for the price of a reasonable hotel in Africa, you can get laid 3 times in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Very true, safe and clean is way more expensive. It isn't for everyone. I stayed where most wouldn't and shacked up with sistas.

Anyone back to Pattaya. Walking Street last night, I was in Ivy and quoted BF 2000, st 3000 and 5 lady drinks. For that price you can have straight out 9-10's in Europe.

I went to a Thai style pool bar and paid 300 BF 1 k st. 25 nice face, GFE, but body 6 under the clothing.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2887635]I went to Cambodia on a bus from a visa company I happened to see. The cost was 3200 baht though the guy sitting next to me said he only paid 2600 baht. Bus picked me up at 5:30 and I was back at my hotel by 3 pm. We stopped halfway there for bathroom break and half way back for lunch. I was told I needed two passport photos but no one took them so I didn't need, who knows if other people did. All I did when I got to Cambodia was stand in whatever line I was told to and then went to next line. I didn't time how long I was there but I'd guess about an hour.

My personal stuff is I left thailand for a week after being here a month and got first extension that way and the second extension by going to immigration office. This is my 3rd extension.

All in all easy peasy.[/QUOTE]Is it still possible to enter Myanmar from Thailand being a non Asian tourist?

[QUOTE=StevePtt;2888409]Very true, safe and clean is way more expensive. It isn't for everyone. I stayed where most wouldn't and shacked up with sistas.

Anyone back to Pattaya. Walking Street last night, I was in Ivy and quoted BF 2000, st 3000 and 5 lady drinks. For that price you can have straight out 9-10's in Europe.

I went to a Thai style pool bar and paid 300 BF 1 k st. 25 nice face, GFE, but body 6 under the clothing.[/QUOTE]Can anyone expand on what "thai style pool bar" would be and where they are located- sounds like an activity for the daytime, thanks.

[QUOTE=StevePtt;2888409]I went to a Thai style pool bar and paid 300 BF 1 k st. 25 nice face, GFE, but body 6 under the clothing.[/QUOTE]You mean a beer bar?

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2888370]It's all good. I went back out last night on Beach Road and there was still a few hotties asking for 1,000 baht. I didn't pick up because I already had a BJ at Maggie Mae's for 700 baht plus 300 behind the closed curtains LOL.[/QUOTE]That's good, thanks.

I reached Pattaya last night, went straight to walking street. It has certainly changed, the huge number of weed dispensaries and shops catering to Indians are an interesting change. Anyways, I didn't feel like staying there long.

I asked a bike taxi to take me to Soi 6. Soi 6 seems more worth my time. I had 2 drinks each at least 3 bars where the girls totally ignored me. They still ignore Indians, nothing has changed. At the 4th and 5th bars the girls were nice and asked if I want to take them out. I bar fined a girl Fai, she quoted 2. 5 k for LT and bar fine 0. 4 k I agreed. She seemed new to the trade and said that she used to work at a dentist's office before. After an hour she developed cold feet and apologised. She returned my bar fine.

I went back to the beach road. It was 3 AM. I struck up a deal with slim petite FL in her late 20's. Deal was 2. 4 K for 3 rounds / 7 AM. On the way back to the hotel, I told her that I am interested in 2 girls. She immediately called her friend. Since I was drunk and tried, I could do only two rounds. I ended up paying both 3 k each. Good co-operative girls, Very good BBJ. I would have loved to see more girl on girl action, but overall a very satisfying night.

Visa on arrival in Myanmar for many countries. Usually granted for 15 days. There would be no difficulty. Nevertheless, check website of Myanmar Government.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2888484]Is it still possible to enter Myanmar from Thailand being a non Asian tourist?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2888484]Is it still possible to enter Myanmar from Thailand being a non Asian tourist?[/QUOTE]HuaHin Visa Services does Visa runs to via Ranong to Myanmar from Hua Hin.

The price is high. Be 6500 so I would fly to Cambodia but they do the run in a day.

So this will be my first trip to Thailand. I am choosing Pattaya to go to. I am going in November for my birthday, but I am also bringing my dad down with me since he is retiring this year. (My present to him). This will be his first trip out of country to do something like this. I been to many countries, and know the type of places that I like.

I already been doing my research on here, and been reading a lot. Which I am grateful what y'all post. I am already on Tinder, Thai Cupid, and another site trying to set things up.

I am an Airbnb man, and thinking about getting a Villa for me and my dad while we are there. This way I can just have 5- 6 women there at all time. Three for me and the rest for my dad.

Does anybody have any thoughts about doing something like this? Or a little more advice. Again I am not new to this, just new to the country, and always like getting good advice, before my trip.

[QUOTE=MongerUnleash;2888797]

I went back to the beach road. It was 3 AM. I struck up a deal with slim petite FL in her late 20's. Deal was 2. 4 K for 3 rounds / 7 AM. On the way back to the hotel, I told her that I am interested in 2 girls. She immediately called her friend. Since I was drunk and tried, I could do only two rounds. I ended up paying both 3 k each. Good co-operative girls, Very good BBJ. I would have loved to see more girl on girl action, but overall a very satisfying night.[/QUOTE]This is a realistic report and honestly that's we want see more in forums. Hope you will keep posting about your Pattaya trip.

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[QUOTE=MongerUnleash;2888797] I had 2 drinks each at least 3 bars where the girls totally ignored me. They still ignore Indians, nothing has changed. [/QUOTE]I'm not Indian so can't tell you first hand but it all depends on the bar and the girls in the bar. I usually get attention in soi 6 bars but if I walk in past a bunch of girls and just sit there and order a drink chances are no girls that I walked by will approach me. If you see someone you like at the front grab them as you walk in and ask them for a drink. Girls appreciate that she was chosen her over her peers. If you didn't see a girl you liked at the front not sure why a guy would choose that bar to buy a drink at. Now if the girl doesn't follow you and you have waived her to follow you in to the bar they are ignoring you no matter what race you may be. She just saved you time and money.

[QUOTE=MongerUnleash;2888797]At the 4th and 5th bars the girls were nice and asked if I want to take them out. I bar fined a girl Fai, she quoted 2. 5 k for LT and bar fine 0. 4 k I agreed. She seemed new to the trade and said that she used to work at a dentist's office before. After an hour she developed cold feet and apologised. She returned my bar fine.[/QUOTE]This might sound crazy but have you considered returning to the bar and buying Fai a drink for her honestly? Many girls would have made up a bullshit excuse and just done a runner. I've never had a girl return a BF.

I did have a similar episode where a girl drank way to much and just blacked out drunk. Her friend had to carry her home. The next day I ducked into to the bar as part of a wider pub crawl and she apologised profusely for ruining my night. Long story short, I bar fined her again on the condition that she stick to sodas and she well and truely rocked my world as penance.

Just something to consider.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2889050]This might sound crazy but have you considered returning to the bar and buying Fai a drink for her honestly? Many girls would have made up a bullshit excuse and just done a runner. I've never had a girl return a BF.

I did have a similar episode where a girl drank way to much and just blacked out drunk. Her friend had to carry her home. The next day I ducked into to the bar as part of a wider pub crawl and she apologised profusely for ruining my night. Long story short, I bar fined her again on the condition that she stick to sodas and she well and truely rocked my world as penance.

Just something to consider.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, but I just installed TF and line. I got offers from at least 3 girls who are willing to spend the whole night with me for 2. 5 k to 4 k.

I took a girl below 25 yrs, last night for 2. 5 k whole night. She is OK if I bring one more girl with me. So I am thinking of bringing 2 girls with me tonight.

I should have done this sooner, rather than wasting my time bar hopping.

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2888904]So this will be my first trip to Thailand. I am choosing Pattaya to go to. I am going in November for my birthday, but I am also bringing my dad down with me since he is retiring this year. (My present to him). This will be his first trip out of country to do something like this. I been to many countries, and know the type of places that I like.

I already been doing my research on here, and been reading a lot. Which I am grateful what y'all post. I am already on Tinder, Thai Cupid, and another site trying to set things up.

I am an Airbnb man, and thinking about getting a Villa for me and my dad while we are there. This way I can just have 5- 6 women there at all time. Three for me and the rest for my dad.

Does anybody have any thoughts about doing something like this? Or a little more advice. Again I am not new to this, just new to the country, and always like getting good advice, before my trip.[/QUOTE]You are really overthinking this. Today is January. You are looking for chicks on websites for November? Dude, you should not be doing that more than 2 days (if not 2 minutes) ahead of time, not 10 months! Getting a villa in Pattaya will put you way away from where you need to be. I recommend staying in the South / Central Pattaya area between Central Pattaya and South Pattaya Roads and Beach Road and Third Road. A villa will more than likely put you in East Pattaya on the darkside or Jomtien.

You really have big dreams if you think you are going to have 5-6 Thai women in a place at one time. It is hard enough getting 1 to be where she is supposed to be when she is supposed to be there. Pattaya is more of a head out to drink and get into bachelor party type debauchery kind of place. It is not a place where one goes to sit back and play emperor.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2889228]You really have big dreams if you think you are going to have 5-6 Thai women in a place at one time. It is hard enough getting 1 to be where she is supposed to be when she is supposed to be there. Pattaya is more of a head out to drink and get into bachelor party type debauchery kind of place. It is not a place where one goes to sit back and play emperor.[/QUOTE]Not true. All you have to do is go a bar, talk to a few mama sans, tell them what you want and you can get your Caligula experience. It won't be cheap but it most certainly is possible.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2889228]You really have big dreams if you think you are going to have 5-6 Thai women in a place at one time. It is hard enough getting 1 to be where she is supposed to be when she is supposed to be there. Pattaya is more of a head out to drink and get into bachelor party type debauchery kind of place. It is not a place where one goes to sit back and play emperor.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2889246]Not true. All you have to do is go a bar, talk to a few mama sans, tell them what you want and you can get your Caligula experience. It won't be cheap but it most certainly is possible.[/QUOTE]One of my wealthy friends did this in about 2019. Five pretty Thai girls, lots of drinking at the bar, hired hotel limo back to suite at his 5 star hotel, more alcohol. It turned into a nightmare with girls breaking stuff, stealing stuff, claiming they didn't get paid. Hotel security couldn't handle it so police were brought in. My friend ended up paying girls double, damages, and tea money. Unpleasant night.

For him, the money wasn't a problem, the problem was the miserable experience. Since then he never takes more than 2 girls.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2889265]One of my wealthy friends did this in about 2019. Five pretty Thai girls, lots of drinking at the bar, hired hotel limo back to suite at his 5 star hotel, more alcohol. It turned into a nightmare with girls breaking stuff, stealing stuff, claiming they didn't get paid. Hotel security couldn't handle it so police were brought in. My friend ended up paying girls double, damages, and tea money. Unpleasant night.

For him, the money wasn't a problem, the problem was the miserable experience. Since then he never takes more than 2 girls.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be easier and safer just to book a Gents Club for a private function? Or even a Gogo, if the OPs budget goes that far?

I'm not a Patts expert but elsewhere this is pretty common for birthday, divorce, retirement parties for guys with deep pockets.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2889298]Wouldn't it be easier and safer just to book a Gents Club for a private function? Or even a Gogo, if the OPs budget goes that far?

I'm not a Patts expert but elsewhere this is pretty common for birthday, divorce, retirement parties for guys with deep pockets.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]It's common to book a group of girls for a pool villa or boat.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2889265]One of my wealthy friends did this in about 2019. Five pretty Thai girls, lots of drinking at the bar, hired hotel limo back to suite at his 5 star hotel, more alcohol. It turned into a nightmare with girls breaking stuff, stealing stuff, claiming they didn't get paid. Hotel security couldn't handle it so police were brought in. My friend ended up paying girls double, damages, and tea money. Unpleasant night.

For him, the money wasn't a problem, the problem was the miserable experience. Since then he never takes more than 2 girls.[/QUOTE]Good advice. The two occasions I have decided I wanted a "party" involved 3 girls on one occasion (Bangkok) and 4 girls on another (Spain). I'm afraid once you've had the thrill of getting them into the room and naked, and you are naked, they know full well that you cannot control them all and it can develop into mayhem.

That said, I have enjoyed some fabulous "parties" of this type in Pattayas Gentlemen's Clubs. As they are on home turf, somehow they are not as unruly. Played strip pool in Club Fate last year. Type of "killer" game where I played 5 girls at once who alternated shots and anyone not potting a ball removed an item of clothing. Fuelled by a couple of racks of shots and two bottles of bubbly, it wasn't long before three of the 5 were naked and the other 2 topless with me down to some unfortunately tight (and therefore embarrassing boxers). I ended up taking all 5 of them to the largest room upstairs after a deal was struck effectively for 1000 for each of them plus more drinks. A fabulous, fun and memorable time was had. Your advice stands. Taking more than 2 girls to a hotel room for one person is not a great idea.

T-minus 2 weeks until my second trip. I have to ask, any places that sell genuine wagyu? I know beefeaters offers it, but last year they didn't have any, nor did another place I went to (think in central festival) have it available.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2889340]T-minus 2 weeks until my second trip. I have to ask, any places that sell genuine wagyu? I know beefeaters offers it, but last year they didn't have any, nor did another place I went to (think in central festival) have it available.[/QUOTE]I'm not a big meat eater. But King Kong Burger on Soi Honey, in the middle of the Soi, does their menu list steaks.

Recently saw an ad, Place on 3rd Road? Called the Bull.

You can google it, Bull in Pattaya get exact location.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2889340]T-minus 2 weeks until my second trip. I have to ask, any places that sell genuine wagyu? I know beefeaters offers it, but last year they didn't have any, nor did another place I went to (think in central festival) have it available.[/QUOTE]El Gaucho has opened a new location in Pattaya. They will have wagyu.

Many ladies in Pattaya are busy now. This is the part of High Season when customers stay longer, so a lot of ladies have new "boyfriends".

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2889344]I'm not a big meat eater. But King Kong Burger on Soi Honey, in the middle of the Soi, does their menu list steaks.[/QUOTE]I had one of the worst burgers there, I thought that there was something really wrong with whatever kind of meat it was and it was badly cooked.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2889451]I had one of the worst burgers there, I thought that there was something really wrong with whatever kind of meat it was and it was badly cooked.[/QUOTE]I was there a number of times Sept, Oct, Nov with family friends in town. Each time the burger got smaller, twice I said where's the fries!

Always though location Soi Honey for a place to serve burgers and steaks never seen more than a handful of customers which makes one think FRESH? Owners are Thai and Japanese also own GoGo on WS, old Pacal location across from Tantra. Compare to the crowds at Prime Burger.

I also like my burgers to be more traditional with letture, tomato, onions maybe lack of customers meat spoiling.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2889265]One of my wealthy friends did this in about 2019. Five pretty Thai girls, lots of drinking at the bar, hired hotel limo back to suite at his 5 star hotel, more alcohol. It turned into a nightmare with girls breaking stuff, stealing stuff, claiming they didn't get paid. Hotel security couldn't handle it so police were brought in. My friend ended up paying girls double, damages, and tea money. Unpleasant night.

For him, the money wasn't a problem, the problem was the miserable experience. Since then he never takes more than 2 girls.[/QUOTE]What hotel was this? What bar are the girls from? Based on my mongering in thailand and other places, this story doesn't make much sense.

1. Security at any hotel has all of their IDs, or a copy of it, at reception. Any woman stealing, breaking things, etc. could get banned from the hotel. Causing damage is grounds for a ban. An Airbnb is different, but youre saying its a 5 star hotel.

2. Unless these are random freelancers, no WGs who works at a bar is going to risk stealing and breaking things, as there would be a long line of angry customers complaining to the bar and mamasan the very next day. Even if they were freelancers, everyone knows freelancers go to their same favorite spots, so if they were known thieves, they would be confronted with angry clients they just stole from.

3. Most WGs do not get drunk, there is barely any alcohol in lady drinks.

4. Prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand. Theres nothing the cops could do from the WGs claiming they didnt get paid standpoint. Thats a personal dispute.

I've heard plenty of stories of Dominicans and Columbians stealing. But I have never heard of Thai bar girls stealing and damaging property at a 5 star hotel to where the police are called. I’ve stayed at plenty of 5 star suites, nothing is worth stealing.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2889500]What hotel was this? What bar are the girls from? Based on my mongering in thailand and other places, this story doesn't make much sense.

1. Security at any hotel has all of their IDs, or a copy of it, at reception. Any woman stealing, breaking things, etc. could get banned from the hotel. Causing damage is grounds for a ban. An Airbnb is different, but youre saying its a 5 star hotel.

2. Unless these are random freelancers, no WGs who works at a bar is going to risk stealing and breaking things, as there would be a long line of angry customers complaining to the bar and mamasan the very next day. Even if they were freelancers, everyone knows freelancers go to their same favorite spots, so if they were known thieves, they would be confronted with angry clients they just stole from.

3. Most WGs do not get drunk, there is barely any alcohol in lady drinks.

4. Prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand. Theres nothing the cops could do from the WGs claiming they didnt get paid standpoint. Thats a personal dispute.

I've heard plenty of stories of Dominicans and Columbians stealing. But I have never heard of Thai bar girls stealing and damaging property at a 5 star hotel to where the police are called. Ive stayed at plenty of 5 star suites, nothing is worth stealing.[/QUOTE]But there *is* one danger of having a bargirl come to your 5 star hotel room. She raids the minibar. You have to watch for that.

I was waiting outside for a TF girl to arrive. And then when she did, this happened.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015539/amp/Horror-British-base-jumper-33-plunges-death-tower-block-Thailand-parachute-fails-open.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2889443]Many ladies in Pattaya are busy now. This is the part of High Season when customers stay longer, so a lot of ladies have new "boyfriends".[/QUOTE]1. Busiest high season ever?

2. Lowest busiest High season ever?

Are people s post not being posted. I swear some posts are not being shown. Artificial Intelligence gone Wrong.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2889500]What hotel was this? What bar are the girls from? Based on my mongering in thailand and other places, this story doesn't make much sense.

1. Security at any hotel has all of their IDs, or a copy of it, at reception. Any woman stealing, breaking things, etc. could get banned from the hotel. Causing damage is grounds for a ban. An Airbnb is different, but youre saying its a 5 star hotel.

2. Unless these are random freelancers, no WGs who works at a bar is going to risk stealing and breaking things, as there would be a long line of angry customers complaining to the bar and mamasan the very next day. Even if they were freelancers, everyone knows freelancers go to their same favorite spots, so if they were known thieves, they would be confronted with angry clients they just stole from.

3. Most WGs do not get drunk, there is barely any alcohol in lady drinks.

[B]4. Prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand.[/b] Theres nothing the cops could do from the WGs claiming they didnt get paid standpoint. Thats a personal dispute.

I've heard plenty of stories of Dominicans and Columbians stealing. But I have never heard of Thai bar girls stealing and damaging property at a 5 star hotel to where the police are called. Ive stayed at plenty of 5 star suites, nothing is worth stealing.[/QUOTE]4. Do you have a link to the Thai Penal or Criminal Code stating that prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand?

I can't speak for what might have changed recently. But the assertion that prostitution is illegal in Thailand comes up every now and then, I question it and provide the links to the above that to my reading never say a word about a consensual act of prostitution between adults age 18 or above being illegal in Thailand and so far I have not seen a citation stating otherwise.

However, as I allowed, I could certainly be wrong about that if some new spin on the law has been added recently.

The Code does state forcing someone to engage in prostitution is illegal. As is someone other than the prostitute raking off money for it, such as a pimp, a boss, parent, boyfriend, husband or other authority figure who might have applied undue coercion to engage in prostitution. And, of course, engaging in it with someone under age 18. Also, creating a public nuisance out of pitching a P4 P exchange, like when the sidewalks get so full of street girls that happily married couples and church ladies can't wade through them comfortably to get to their hotels and drinking bars.

But the mere act of consenting adults paying and accepting money for sex? I have not yet seen that in a Thai Penal / Criminal Code nor have I read or seen any report of anyone getting arrested and charged with a crime for doing it in Thailand.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2889510]I was waiting outside for a TF girl to arrive. And then when she did, this happened.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015539/amp/Horror-British-base-jumper-33-plunges-death-tower-block-Thailand-parachute-fails-open.html[/URL][/QUOTE]What a terrible thing to happen.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2889500]What hotel was this? What bar are the girls from? Based on my mongering in thailand and other places, this story doesn't make much sense.

1. Security at any hotel has all of their IDs, or a copy of it, at reception. Any woman stealing, breaking things, etc. could get banned from the hotel. Causing damage is grounds for a ban. An Airbnb is different, but youre saying its a 5 star hotel.

2. Unless these are random freelancers, no WGs who works at a bar is going to risk stealing and breaking things, as there would be a long line of angry customers complaining to the bar and mamasan the very next day. Even if they were freelancers, everyone knows freelancers go to their same favorite spots, so if they were known thieves, they would be confronted with angry clients they just stole from.

3. Most WGs do not get drunk, there is barely any alcohol in lady drinks.

4. Prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand. Theres nothing the cops could do from the WGs claiming they didnt get paid standpoint. Thats a personal dispute.

I've heard plenty of stories of Dominicans and Columbians stealing. But I have never heard of Thai bar girls stealing and damaging property at a 5 star hotel to where the police are called. Ive stayed at plenty of 5 star suites, nothing is worth stealing.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was DECADES ago, but yes, now days security will photocopy their ID and send it to surrounding hotels. They will be black listed.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2889540]Maybe it was DECADES ago, but yes, now days security will photocopy their ID and send it to surrounding hotels. They will be black listed.[/QUOTE]Seems to me lots of Thais came out ahead. LOL. Hahaha.

Even the Coppers shared in the Spoils.

I'm surprised our Friend X hasnt run into similar Situations.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2889510]I was waiting outside for a TF girl to arrive. And then when she did, this happened.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015539/amp/Horror-British-base-jumper-33-plunges-death-tower-block-Thailand-parachute-fails-open.html[/URL][/QUOTE]That happened in the UK? Seems there are Farangs falling and / or jumping from balconies weekly in Thailand! No parachute required!

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2888904]So this will be my first trip to Thailand. I am choosing Pattaya in November for my birthday, but I am also bringing my dad. I am already on Tinder, Thai Cupid, and another site trying to set things up. thinking about getting a villa, this way I can just have 5- 6 women there at all times. Does anybody have any thoughts? [/QUOTE]As others have noted, renting a villa is not a good idea because you'll be located FAR from the action. First timers usually finding lodging in the central part of town. Say, in a 1,500 meter radius around Central Festival Mall. There is a separate forum with Pattaya hotel reviews. You'll find lots of information there. You can also rent condos via Airbnb. But beware that many of the condos for rent are VERY small, in some cases about 30 square meters. Too cramped for you and your dad. I don't know your lodging budget, but you should be able to book a couple of nice connecting rooms at any of the major hotels and be close the naughty boy haunts with plenty of room to relax.

I'll also concur with the guys who recommend against having multiple girls hanging around all the time. You won't be able to leave them unsupervised, so one of you will always have to chaperone. Pattaya is a compact beach town with plenty of things to keep you amused day and night, by yourselves or with company. If you hunker down in a villa or some other lodging you'll miss out. Far better, it seems to me, to make the rounds of the places discussed at great length in this forum. If you find somebody you fancy, it won't take long to duck out to your hotel. (Or even to take care of business on site.) Rinse and repeat, taking breaks as necessary for father-and-son time, meals, hanging out on the beach, etc.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2889510]I was waiting outside for a TF girl to arrive. And then when she did, this happened.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015539/amp/Horror-British-base-jumper-33-plunges-death-tower-block-Thailand-parachute-fails-open.html[/URL][/QUOTE]So being 33 years old, in pretty good shape, hanging out in a place with party time, great food and beverages, hot and cold running pussy in all directions just wasn't interesting or exciting enough for him. He had to jump off the top of a skyscraper too.

Sad report. May he RIP.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2889518]1. Busiest high season ever?

2. Lowest busiest High season ever?

Are people s post not being posted. I swear some posts are not being shown. Artificial Intelligence gone Wrong.[/QUOTE]I don't know how busy Pattaya is in general, only that January is peak season for guys to hook up with ladies long time. Lots of guys barfining ladies for 2 weeks, falling in love, and then sponsoring ladies until they sober up.

Next month is when the ladies return to the village to sponge off their sponsor.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2889518]1. Busiest high season ever?

2. Lowest busiest High season ever?

Are people s post not being posted. I swear some posts are not being shown. Artificial Intelligence gone Wrong.[/QUOTE]To make a comment like this, you would have to be here I think. Last week you were making posts saying you were here and then in other posts you were saying you were coming in March.

Here is the real scoop. Tourist areas like LK Metro, Walking street and Soi 6 are very busy these days. Other areas like Tree Town, Soi Pothole, Soi Made, Myth and Soi Boomerang are still struggling, as well as the bars further down Soi Bukao. They will have the odd good night but business is not consistent. One or two bad days for every good day. Play Girlz was completely dead last night. But a few bars, such as Maggie Mays and Buzzin Lounge are still going strong. Cat Flaps and Kinaree are always steady with the local expats and same with Soi Bonchot. While I was in Soi 6 Friday, the girls were focussing on the Asian customers hoping for a big pay day, that most farangs won't give them. There are tons and tons of ladies here and if some are hooked up with holiday boyfriends there are still plenty of ladies to go around. If you don't have a TF premium account you will find it hard to navigate as the girls are busier and won't be scrolling back looking at older messages they missed and unless you get them online and get lucky, its a bit of a crap shoot. Try to get their lines and talk to them outside the app.

Have a good day Mr. Finch, AKA 40 drinks, Raj Patel and who knows who else. I believe your posts are being screened by the gods as you should be a senior member by now, but I suspect your 40 drinks profile has been linked to all your others. Why not just use the original profile you created. They will always seem to keep you on moderated status anyways. believe me, it will save you all the time you use to create new accounts. This is just my theory. I could be wrong lol

Alright figured it's time I write a little about my trip. I'll make a full report sometime in the next few days. I visited Pattaya for the first time this past November for a couple of weeks, and boy am I utterly impressed. I've traveled to Colombia and other South American countries many times before, but nothing compares to Thailand, or at least Pattaya.

My first day there I was very tired from the flights, almost 2 days worth of flying and layovers had me really beat. Got onto my transport at the airport in BKK through Nam's Lady Drivers, and slept for half the trip. Got to the hotel in Pattaya just before 4 PM local time. Took a nice and long shower and immediately headed over to Honey Body Massage on Soi Honey, near where I stayed. This massage opened my eyes. I have never experienced anything like it before. The woman I chose wasn't all that great in the looks department once she took off her dress, but she was good at massaging. After this, I went to eat some pad Thai, then took a walk around LK Metro and Soi Pothole, took a dive into Maggie Mays but all the good looking women were taken. Had a beer and left. At this point I was extremely tired and the massage only made my body need more sleep, especially for a bed after the grueling flights in Economy class. Headed over to a 7-11 and picked up some snacks and small necessities and then got back to my room to knock out.

I woke up around 10 AM the next day, had breakfast at a British pub and took a walk around exploring Central Festival, the Bazaar, and had a foot massage that was amazing. Had late lunch and then just relaxed for a bit. After nightfall I finally visited Soi 6, and my mind was completely and utterly blown. This was it, gentlemen. The videos I had watched on YouTube did not prepare me as much as I thought they would.

I have never had as much fun as I had had in Pattaya. It completely blows everything else out of the water, at least from what I know. I'm young, late 20's, so I still have much of the world to see, but it will be hard to top this. As I said, I'll write up more details of my short trip later. I did not partake much in Walking Street, just a quick tour to see it for myself and that was it.

And I've already booked my next trip, though this time it will be for 3 entire weeks in Thailand, even after counting travel time, which is admittedly the worst part of the trip, as I live in the US. Unfortunately, that also means I will have to wait almost a year for my next trip, but it's well worth the wait in my opinion.