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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I have (at last) managed to collect my 10 cards from Akane.I am not sure now how to proceed and ask for my freebie. Anyone already tried? what is the MO? Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Nic: Does that include the 1 card I left at G's for you? I think you just make a booking or walk in and show your 10 cards ....LOL
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Nic: Does that include the 1 card I left at G's for you? [/QUOTE]Did you? Well I wasn't aware of it. Now I think someone kept the card all for himself LOL
These pics are put up so that the Google Maps for Oilies and Soapies can reference them.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Did you? Well I wasn't aware of it. Now I think someone kept the card all for himself LOL[/QUOTE]Way way back when I first posted re Akane and Mika, indicated i left the vip card with giotto's manager for you to pick up. I think it's still there :)Went back second time but threw away that card....
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Way way back when I first posted re Akane and Mika, indicated i left the vip card with giotto's manager for you to pick up. I think it's still there :)Went back second time but threw away that card....[/QUOTE]What does a VIP card indicate? What did you do to qualify? Now I'm NOT having a go at you here.This is an innocent question? Or does it indicate 10 visits and get passed from one guy to another?AKANE is still on my to do list. But I am a big fan of FS as you know. So usely something else comes along and jumps the "to do list" queue.Do VIPs get to break the rules? :DAre the rules at Akane Chitlom the same as Akane 33?
[QUOTE=Soi Walker]Ben Ten opened about 2 weeks ago. I was there on Thursday, April 3. I chose Jane, who worked at Ogoto, the other MP of the owner of Ben Ten. She says she's 19, comes from Yasothorn, and worked at Ogoto for one year. She looks better in the picture than in person, but very cute and playful nevertheless. She's the prettiest of all the staff there, IMHO. <cut>[/QUOTE]Soi Walker,I have put Ben ten on the Map:[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.732048,100.570049&spn=0.052444,0.081282&z=14[/url]Could you possibly do me a favour and zoom in and check the placement of the flag marker? Its bound to be wrong.But you might be able to help me correct it by indicating move x metres South or North or whatever and indicate which side of the road its on as well would be great.Unfortunately I'm not in BKK right now. Otherwise could easily check myself.
[quote=mick licker]do vips get to break the rules? :dare the rules at akane chitlom the same as akane 33?[/quote]there is no such thing as a vip card at akane. you can choose to upgrade from a regular to a vip room at both branches.[b]soi 33:[/b] as they do not have vip rooms on premises, you go to the peepin hotel next door and rumor has it that a few girls might offer fs (but as everything in thailand, ymmv). cost: n/a as you need to pick a vip 2 girls course to go to the hotel.[b]chidlom:[/b] they have 2 vip rooms on the 4th floor but the rooms are the same as a regular room, just a little bit wider and with beds a tiny bit bigger (not worth it in my opinion. cost: 180thb extra[quote=mick licker]what does a vip card indicate? what did you do to qualify? or does it indicate 10 visits and get passed from one guy to another?[/quote]the card we are talking about is a service card that is given to you at the end of each session. this card has 2 sides and indicates the name of the girl you had, the date and which massage you ordered. (see pics attached)
[b][size=+2]11. Patpong, Silom, Rama 4 and beyond to Rama 3[/size] [/b]Important Soapy Massage Parlours at this location:[list][*][b]Infinty JC PatPong*[/b][*][b]Versailles*[/b][*]Plaza Onsen PatPong[*]Takara[*]IDA[*]Sahara Sauna (closed)[/list][b][size=+1]9.1. Infinity JC PatPong[/size] [/b][b]9.1.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]เจซี [/size][/b] [i]jay-see[/i][b]Rating:[/b] Superb array of girls with a few stunners at times. Recommended.[b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Body Massage in tub, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] "Soi to Montien Hotel", 56 Suriwongse (Surawong) Road, Pat Pong [b]Tel:[/b] 02 234 0301 -3[b]Opening Hours:[/b] 12:00?-24:00[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.gdiary.com/JCPatpong]GDiary Site[/URL]; [url=http://www.**************.com/jc-massage-patpong/]PVB Site[/url][b]Price (Mar2008):[/b] 2500฿(2Hr), 3000฿, 3500฿ Possible that asians my get cheaper?[b]9.1.3. General Info[/b]When I first arrived there were 20 girls in the fishbowl and a few on the sideline. I was stunned because 3 or 4 girls looked really stunning and sexy. Hit the perfect time for the best girls but by chance had just completed a bath at nearby Versailles so wasn't ready for action. When I returned, another day, to make a booking the selection was not as good, but still found a girl with a good body for an enjoyable session.Definitely an up-scale place with a classy look.[b]9.1.4. Notes on the Service[/b]Nice BJ and body slide in the tub.[b]9.1.5. How to Get There[/b]1. On MRT underground subway, go to Silom station. Walk west on Rama 4 road turning left into Surawong. Opposite Pat Pong 2 is Soi leading to the Montien Hotel. On the left of this Soi is Infinity JC.2. On BTS skytrain, go to Sala Daeng station. Walk along Silom road till get to Soi Pat Pong (1 or 2 will do). Walk through Patpong 2 (or 1) till get to Surawong road. Opposite Pat Pong 2 is the Soi leading to the Montien Hotel. On the left of this Soi is Infinity JC. 3. Alternatively take a taxi to Montien Hotel. [b]9.1.6. Remarks[/b]The papasans were very attentive and urging me to take 2 girls, but I declined and insisted on just one. Unless you know the girls well, they can be inhibited with another girl. [b]9.1.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=726342&highlight=Infinity#post726342]Apr 2008: Mick Licker[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=726107&highlight=Infinity#post726107]Apr 2008: Mick Licker[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=724762&highlight=Infinity#post724762]Mar 2008: Escort Fan[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723460&highlight=Infinity#post723460]Mar 2008: Satrai2000[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723406&highlight=Infinity#post723406]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][b][size=+1]9.2. Versailles Massage* (New Versailles)[/size] [/b][b]9.2.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]นิว แวร์ซายน์ [/size][/b] [i]new wear-sai[/i][b]Rating:[/b] Good value with some pretty girls at times. [b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 796-800 Rama 4 road, Sam Yam, BKK,East of Rose Hotel, near back of Montien Hotel, near Galaxy Restaurant[b]Tel:[/b] 02 238 1039, 089 045 1029, 089 044 8127 (Nit "Chear"person)[b]Opening Hours:[/b] 14:00-23:30 W.E.13:00[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/versailles-massage-parlor-silom-patpong-bangkok.html#Versailles_Massage_&_Turkish_Bath_House_-_Patpong_Bangkok]Soapy Massage Site[/URL]; [URL=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm%3FShopID%3D265]GDiary[/URL][b]Price (Mar2008):[/b] (1.5Hr) #B:1500฿, Red("pretty girl"):2000฿,#S(side-line):2500฿[b]9.2.3. General Info[/b]Quiet an upscale place with a moderate number of girls. Most girls in the fishbowl with a few "pretty girls" and a few "side-line". I chose a "pretty girl" at 2nd level price and she had a great body to go with the face. Was very sweet and had an enjoyable session. Room was spacious and good quality.[b]9.2.4. Notes on the Service[/b][b]9.2.5. How to Get There[/b]1. From Rama 4 road enter at the huge Galaxy sign (not far from Surawong Road) and East of Sam Yan MRT station. Veer left and Versailles is building at the back with the Roman columns, on left corner of Soi leading to Rose Hotel.2. From Surawong road, the Soi just west of Soi to Montien Hotel leads to Rose Hotel. At Rose Hotel turn right and left and right again takes you to Versailles with the Roman columns on your right side.[b]9.2.6. Remarks[/b][b]9.2.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723406&highlight=Versailles#post723406]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][b][size=+1]9.3. Plaza Onsen (PatPong)[/size] [/b][b]9.3.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]พลาซ่า [/size][/b][i]plah-SAH![/i][b]Rating:[/b] Mediocre small line-up[b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 9 Pat Pong II road, Silom, Bangkok[b]Tel:[/b] 02 234 4554, 02 233 9422, 02 234 3691, 081-020-9987(Nok)[b]Opening Hours:[/b] 15:00?or17:00?-2:00?[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm%3FShopID%3D434]Gdiray translate to Eng[/URL]; [URL=http://guide.2thebigmango.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/soapies/silom/patpong/plaza-massage/]Guide to the Big Mango[/URL][b]Price (Mar2008):[/b] 2Hr:1600฿ Surchrg:unclear? [b]9.3.3. General Info[/b]Small fishbowl with not that many girls. Not likely to really compete with other MPs nearby. Probably involved in rip-offs since a mamasan and a papasan quoted me different prices than each other even though I spoke Thai to them (but separately).Papasan tells me that "Onsen" is a japanese word indicating a Japanese bath where all is above board. But thats just to fool the Japanese wives. Definitely sex going on. [b]9.3.5. How to Get There[/b]1. MRT underground subway to Silom. Walk along Silom road on Nth side and turn right at Soi Pat Pong 2. Easy to miss it in day time. But has a sign advertising some exotic Disco. Only a short way up this Soi on the right. 2. BTS skytrain to Sala Daeng station then as for MRT instructions.[b]9.3.6. Remarks[/b]This place was gutted by fire in 2006, but has re-opened.[b]9.3.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723406&highlight=Plaza#post723406]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][b][size=+1]9.4. Takara[/size] [/b][b]9.4.1. Overview[/b][b]Rating:[/b] Probably best to avoid.[b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, B-Course Body Slide, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 54 Patpong 1, Silom[b]Tel:[/b] 02 634 0008[b]Opening Hours:[/b] 18:00-24:00 W.E.14:00[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://guide.2thebigmango.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/soapies/silom/patpong/takara-massage/]Guide to the Big Mango[/URL][b]Price:[/b] 1500฿ +[b]9.4.3. General Info[/b]Intended for tourists. Can be ripped off if taken here by touts. Must enter on your own and deny any touts that follow.Have yet to visit this place so not much known.[b]9.4.5. How to Get There[/b]1. MRT underground subway to Silom. Walk along Silom road on Nth side and turn right at Soi Pat Pong 1 (after Soi Pat Pong 2). Half way up this Soi on the left. Its on the right if approaching from Surawong road.2. BTS skytrain to Sala Daeng station then as for MRT instructions.[b]9.4.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723733&highlight=Takara#post723733]Mar 2008: Sainter21[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=412692&highlight=Takara#post412692]Nov 2005: Sainter21[/url][b][size=+1]9.5. IDA[/size] [/b][b]9.5.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]ไอด้า [/size][/b] [i]ai-Dar![/i][b]Rating:[/b] Not yet visited[b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 1316 Soi Wat Phai Ngoen, Sathu Pradit Road, Rama 3, Bangkhlo, Bangkholaem [b]Tel:[/b] 02 674 8501-3[b]Opening Hours:[/b] 15:00-24:00 W.E.14:00 [b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.ilikemassage.com/ida/]I Like Massage[/URL]; [url=http://www.bangkok999.com/location_det.asp?id=84]Bangkok999 site[/url]; [url=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm%3FShopID%3D258]GDiary Eng[/url][b]Price:[/b] 1700฿, 2000฿, SL:2200฿[b]9.5.3. General Info[/b]A bit out of the way so likely to appeal to local Thais.[b]9.5.5. How to Get There[/b]1. Very tricky so you will need a taxi driver who knows the place most likely.[b]9.5.7. Links[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url] [b][size=+1]9.6. Sahara Sauna (closed)[/size] [/b][b]9.6.1. Overview[/b][b]Address:[/b] Near corner Rama 4 and Sathorn Neua, Silom [b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/sahara-sauna-massage-parlor-silom-patpong-bangkok.html#Sahara_Sauna_&_Massage_-_Silom_-_Bangkok_]Soapy Massage site[/url][b]9.6.3. General Info[/b]Only a vacant block remains with a couple of spirit houses.[b]9.6.7. Links[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][i][b]Mick Licker (April 2008)[/b][/i]
[b][size=+2]10. Uruphong Junction and Chinatown[/size] [/b]Important Soapy Massage Parlours near Uruphong Junction (Rama 6 with New Petchaburi Road, Ratchathewi):[list][*]Sao Botan[*]Bacara (Closed)[/list]Important Soapy Massage Parlours around Chinatown (Yaowarat):[list][*]The Cleopatra (ex Harlem)[*]Texas Cafe[/list][b][size=+1]10.1. Sao Botan (S.Botan)[/size] [/b][b]10.1.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]สาว โบตั๋น [/size][/b] [i]sao bow-dtan[/i][b]Rating:[/b] A good budget establishment with plenty of girls [b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, B-Course Body Slide, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 29/1 Soi 13 Rama 6 road, Rong Meuang, BKK[b]Tel:[/b] 02 216 6395 -6, 083 179 4191 (joker pasasan "Top"- reliability unknown) [b]Opening Hours:[/b] 14:00-24:00 W.E.12:00[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://guide.2thebigmango.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/soapies/other/s-botan/]Guide to the Big Mango[/URL]; [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/s-botan-pp-cafe-massage-parlor-rama-vi-road-bangkok.html]Soapy Massage[/URL]; [URL=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm%3FShopID%3D303]GDiary Eng[/URL][b]Price:[/b] 1HR:1000฿ (older girls), 1.5HR:1500฿, 2000฿ [b]10.1.3. General Info[/b] PP Cafe is at the front. In the side Soi is entrance to Thai Massage and 2nd Entrance for Turkish Bath (Soapy Massage). A mid-size place with about a lot of girls (up to 50) in the Soapy fishbowl, including some reasonably attractive girls in the higher price brackets. Not many really young girls.Will suit a budget conscious punter. [b]10.1.5. How to Get There[/b]S.Botan, is located on Rama VI road at Soi 13, which is approximately 250 yards away from the Uruphong junction, past the bridge over Klong San Saep, and a similar distance from the intersection with Rama I road. The nearest hotel is Sol Twins Towers. Catch the BTS Skytrain to National Stadium station (at MBK Centre). Head 600m west and turn right into Rama 6 immediately after passing under the Sirat expressway. Its up on the left maybe another 300m at Soi 13 (well before the canal bridge). A short taxi ride from BTS or walkable in nice weather. [b]10.1.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=724573&highlight=Botan#post724573]Mar 2008: Fast Eddie 48[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723460&highlight=Botan#post723460]Mar 2008: Satrai2000[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723141&highlight=Botan#post723141]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=706080&highlight=Sao+Botan#post706080]Feb 2008: Orange Sunshine[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=444389&highlight=Botan#post444389]Mar 2006: Oldian[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=364328&highlight=Botan#post364328]Jun 2005: hulolado[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=348551&highlight=Botan#post348551]Mar 2005: uranyi[/url][b][size=+1]10.2. Bacara[/size] [/b][b]10.2.1. Overview[/b][b]Address:[/b] Soi 4 Petchaburi Road, Uruphong Junction, [b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/bacara-massage-parlor-petchaburi-road-bangkok.html#Bacara_Turkish_Bath_House_&_Massage_Petc]Soapy Massage[/URL][b]10.2.3. General Info[/b]This place is now closed.[b]10.2.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723141&highlight=Bacara#post723141]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][b][size=+1]10.3. The Cleopatra Entertainment & Night Club [/size] [/b][b]10.3.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]เดอะ คลีโอพัตรา [/size][/b] [i][/i][b]Rating:[/b] Too few girls to recommend. Maybe have a look if happen to be in Chinatown. [b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, B-Course Body Slide, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 721 Maitri Chit Road, PomphrapSatruPhai, next to Sri Kung Hotel [b]Tel:[/b] 02 222 5506, 08 1694 7234 (papasan Thanat) [b]Opening Hours:[/b] 13:00-23:30[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/harlem-massage-parlor-chinatown-bangkok.html#Harlem_massage_parlour_Chinatown_Bangkok]ex-Harlem[/URL][b]Price:[/b] 1.5Hr 1000฿, 1500฿[b]10.3.3. General Info[/b]Used to be called "Harlem". Not to be confused with Halem(Harem) in Petchburi Road. After the closure of "New Cleopatra" in Din Daeng road, this one has taken over the "Cleopatra" name, but is a far smaller cheaper establishment. A small fishbowl with not many girls.When I went there the only girl that appealed was in the higher price bracket and was already booked. [b]10.3.5. How to Get There[/b]Catch the MRT Underground (Subway) to Hua Lamphong station. Head east crossing the canal. Turn right and vear off at an angle to the road following canal edge into Maitrichit road. "The Cleopatra" sign should be visible on the right not far. If its not, you are probably not in the right road (its a bit tricky). [b]10.3.5. Remarks[/b]Get a card from papasan, and after 10 visits stamped, get a freebie.[b]10.3.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b] [url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=698414&highlight=Cleopatra#post698414]Mar 2008: Licker[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=698414&highlight=Cleopatra#post698414]Jan 2008: Maa Paa[/url] [b][size=+1]10.4. Texas Cafe[/size] [/b][b]10.4.1. Overview[/b][b]Thai: [size=+1]เท็กซัส [/size][/b] [i]tek-sat[/i][b]Rating:[/b] Don't bother unless staying right near by, not fussy, and looking for a cheapy. [b]Services:[/b] Soapie/Bath, Massage, B-Course Body Slide, Full Sex[b]Address:[/b] 177 Soi Trok Sai, Yaowarat Road, Samphantawong, Opposite Chinatown Hotel [b]Tel:[/b] 02 223 3521 [b]Opening Hours:[/b] 12:00-23:30[b]Website:[/b] [URL=http://www.soapy-massage.com/texas-cafe-massage-parlor-chinatown-bangkok.html#Texas_Cafe_&_Massage_-_Chinatown_-_Bangk]Soapy Massage[/URL]; [URL=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/ShopDetails.cfm%3FShopID%3D291]GDiary to Eng[/URL][b]Price:[/b] 1.5Hrs 1000฿, 1500฿. [b]10.4.3. General Info[/b]The outside looks like a dump, but inside is more spacious. Small to medium sized fishbowl with not a very exciting selection of girls when I visited. Almost all girls were over-weight and the remainder rather plain. Overall I wasn't impressed. [b]10.4.5. How to Get There[/b]Head for the China Town Hotel, in Yaowarat Road. Cross the road and its in a tiny pedestrian Soi off this road just a little to the Nort-West of the Hotel.[b]10.4.7. Links to Recent Reports[/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]Google Maps: BKK Soapy MPs[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723141&highlight=Texas#post723141]Mar 2008: Mick Licker[/url][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=374493&highlight=Texas#post374493]Jul 2005: Member #3401[/url][i][b]Mick Licker (Apr 2008)[/b][/i]
[b][size=+2]bangkok soapy massage parlours guide (turkish bath houses) v3[/size] [/b]this report gives an overview about "soapy" massage parlours (mps), also known as turkish bath houses or [b][size=+1]อาบ อบ นวด [/size][i]arp op nuat![/i][/b] in thai. this is intended to be an extension to giotto's sukhumvit mp list, and therefore his report approach is imitated. [b]update v3:[/b] includes chapter 10 urupong junction & chinatown, chapter 11 pat pong/silom/rama 3, bkk soapy mp maps (via google), and some more useful links.as there are many soapy venues, it will not be possible for me to try them all regularly, and my opinions would be biased anyway, so i will be relying on reports from forum members about these places, to help to form up to date information (if possible). i would particularly like to hear from forum members on how much they paid and how they rated the girls, rooms, and other staff, what they received, and whether they would repeat with same girl or a different girl. every effort will be made to make this information independent, representative of general forum views, and "free" from financial influence. links are provided for information only and should not be viewed as advertising any particular venue. for ratings i will try to assess how popular is the venue, number of isg reports, numbers of girls, prices, whether venue is suited to thais or farangs (non-asians), and ease of getting there, and frequency of a pleasant to good time, although we cannot assess the performance of girls as they vary as do customer expectations. the nearest mrt subway (underground rail mass rapid transit) or bts skytrain (bangkok transit system) stations will be specified where relevant. the reports will be divided up by district where the mps are located, rather than by type of service. links to recent forum reports on specific venues will be provided.this [b]introduction[/b] report is divided into sections:[b]1. bangkok soapy massage districts[/b][b]2. services at a soapy massage parlour[/b][b]3. general tips about soapy massage parlours[/b][b]4. useful website links[/b][b]5. acknowledgements to forum members with major contributions[/b][b]6. disclaimer[/b][b][size=+2]1. bangkok soapy massage districts[/size] [/b]recommended mps will be shown in [b]bold[/b] type. an asterisk will mean exceptionally good value prices. *[s]ea[/s] will mean exceptionally good prices for east asians only due different pricing for farangs (non east asians).[b][size=+1]1.1. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659354#post659354] sukhumvit road[/url] ([i]sukhumwit[/i])[/size] [/b]just the soapies:[list][*] annies*[*]darling turkish bath house[*]chavala ii (chavalla)[/list]see giottos mp list: [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659354#post659354]october 2007 mp list update[/url], or go directly to one of the three parts of interest to you:[list][*] [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659353#post659353]part 1 - intro / soapy/bath places[/url][*][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659352#post659352]part 2 - oily massage[/url][*] [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659351#post659351]part 3 - theme massage places/epilogue[/url][/list][b][size=+1]1.2. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701186]ratchada-phisek road near to sutthisan mrt[/url][/size] [/b][list][*][b]poseidon entertainment complex - venus showcase (2nd fl)[/b][*][b]copa cabana[/b][*]malibu* (barbara)[*]pasaya[/list][b][size=+1]1.3. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701177]ratchada-phisek road near huai-khwang mrt[/url][/size] [/b][list][*][b]nataree[/b][*][b]emmanuelle[*][b]colonze 2* [/b][*]mirage (closed)[*]caesars entertainment[s]*ea[/s][*]hi-class[*][b]selene* (ex-maliryn,ex-maleena)[/b][*][b]tharnthong[/b][/list][b][size=+1]1.4. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701173]asoke/din-daeng (rama 9 mrt) intersection[/url] [/size] [/b][list][*]new cleopatra[*]amsterdam (ex-champs elysees)[*][b]long beach* (ex-honolulu love boat club)[/b][*][b]utopia entertainment[s]*ea[/s] [/b][/list][b][size=+1]1.5. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701171]rama 9[/url] [/size] [/b][list][*][b]la defense (ex-juliana) [/b][*][b]catherine*[/b][*][b]colonze 1* [/b][*]victoria's secret*[*]noar*[*]chailai[/list][b][size=+1]1.6. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701166]new petchaburi road - makkasan (sukhumvit 3) to beyond asoke[/url][/size] [/b][list][*]plaza entertainment level 2 (sherbert)[s]*ea[/s][*]cupidy (pe level 1)[s]*ea[/s][*]de lila (pe level 6)[*]oscar/velunda/angara[*]harem (halem)[*]atami (closed)[*]mona lisa (closed - renovate)[*]new york (closed)[/list][b][size=+1]1.7. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701161]new petchaburi road (rca to ekkamai)[/url][/size] [/b][list][*]petch siam[*]christina*[*]sai fon (saiphon)[*]pornpetch[*][b]bangkok cozy*[/b][*]riviera[*]hawaii*[*]angelina* (ex-new stella/zodiac)[/list][b][size=+1]1.8. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701157]new petchaburi beyond ekkamai to pattanakan road[/url][/size] [/b][list][*][b]meree*[/b][*]evita*(avita)[*]biwa caf?[s]*ea[/s][*][b]nancy*[/b][*][b]tarawadee (ex-osaka) [/b][/list][b][size=+1]1.9. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701156]sri-ayuthaya road & pratu-nam[/url][/size][/b][list][*]j-one caf? (j1)[s]*ea[/s][*][b]chaophya 2* (chaophraya ii)[/b][*]chavala (chavalla)[*]venus[/list][b][size=+1]1.10. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730484]uruphong junction and chinatown [/url][/size] [/b][list][*][b]sao botan*[/b][*]bacara (closed)[*]the cleopatra (ex harlem)[*]texas cafe[/list][b][size=+1]1.11. [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730483]patpong/silom/rama iv area and beyond to rama 3[/url][/size] [/b][list][*][b]infinty jc patpong[/b][*][b]versailles*[/b][*]plaza onsen patpong[*]takara[*]ida[*]sahara sauna (closed)[/list][b][size=+1]1.12. phra pin klao and thonburi (west side of chaophraya river)[/size] [/b][list][*]snow white 1[*]valentine massage 1 (star cafe)[*][b]chaophya 3*[/b][*]valentine 2 (hadpattayanana) massage[*]krung thon complex[*]snow white 2[*]melrose[/list][red]details not yet available. see soapy mps on google maps site[/red][b][size=+2]2. services at a soapy massage parlour[/size] [/b][b][size=+1]อาบ อบ นวด [/size][i]arp op nuat![/i][/b] in thai, can be abreviated to [b][size=+1]อ.อ.น. [/size][/b], where [i]"arp"[/i] means to bathe, [i]"op"[/i] means bake (not to be taken literally here - think of heat in the bath), and [i]"nuat"[/i] means massage, although a soapy mp (or turkish bath) experience may be more about the bathing and sex, than about massage. good quality massage can be found at [b]some[/b] establishments and sensual body to body massage (not real massage) is sometimes available for turning on the customers. although sex is strictly forbidden at most soap mps and signs on the wall say its forbidden, it is well accepted that most customers are expecting to get sex at nearly every soapy mp. some girls may do very special sex services such as anal (or other risky things), but this would not be normal. bbbj may be non-standard at some mps (but very customer and girl dependent). a soapy massage parlor can be a large multi-story entertainment complex in some cases or can be a much smaller building with just soapy/bath/massage available. the basic service consists of the customer selecting a girl from a seated line up, sometimes behind a very large glass window or panel (known as a fish-bowl or fish-tank). the girl then takes the customer to a private room where he is very thoroughly bathed by the girl with the girl often taking off her clothes to join him in the larger than normal bath. after lengthy cleaning is complete, they then migrate to the bed or table for massage and special services including sex. many soapy mps are better termed "turkish bath houses" because many girls may not know how to massage at all. lots of guys are really just going for bathing with a girl followed by sex on a bed. so without the extended bath cleansing and bath play, we can't really call it a "soapy"the girls may be divided into different sections or classifications and have different prices. sections might be: super-stars (normal girls), side-line (more expensive), vip or models section (more money), b-course (body slide), traditional thai massage, with the last two sections not present at every establishment. however be aware that not all girls available at mps are expert at real massage.some establishments have a section of girls fully trained in "ancient thai healing massage" (traditional massage) in thai known as [b][size=+1]นวด แผน โบราณ [/size][i]nuat paen borarn[/i][/b]. can be abbreviated to [b][size=+1]น.ผ.บ. [/size][/b] these masseuses may not offer full sex at some venues, or may offer it for an extra fee. at some venues, all girls may be fully massage trained.some venues provide a special form of erotic massage known as "b course", "body slide", or "tora". in this form of massage, the man lies naked on a blow-up plastic air mattress. the naked girl covers him with warm slippery suds or gel and then slides all over him, using her softer parts such as breasts, bottom, thighs to do the massaging of his entire body. this stimulation is usually guaranteed to cause an erection. usually girls providing this form of massage are voluptuous or at least large breasted. they may receive slightly higher payment as the body-slide is tiring. the following web site still pictures may explain better than words: [url]www.soapymassage.com/main.html[/url]. many soapy mps that have no b-course on a blow-up mattress may still provide body to body massage sliding on slippery suds in the bath tub. this will be known as "body massage" rather than b-course. large entertainment complexes may include: restaurants, bars, karaoke, singers and comedians performing on stage, etc.rating an mp based on experience with a particular girl is fairly meaningless. girls can vary a lot. even the same girl can perform quite inconsistently on different days or for different customers. one guy's gfe is another guy's weak performer, depending on chemistry and customer expectation of the service. so mostly mps will be rated on popularity, price, value for money, and standard of the rooms, and average looks of the girls. it can make some sense to rate particular girls to indicate when an mp with a weak selection of girls can have some superb performers. however the girls that work in an mp is forever changing rapidly. this guide cannot track the movements of popular star performers. many of the girls are too shy to dance nude in a go-go bar but are able to get their gear off in a private room.soapies are probably not the best choice for someone looking for a pornstar experience. in general, the experienced girls will also be reasonably experienced in sex. most girls are probably not into anal, most will require the use of condoms, some will not do bbbj or not with every customer, some may not into kissing (its too easy to catch viruses putting the girl out of action). for pornstar extreme sex, places like eden and tulip may be better options. the best blow jobs are likely to be at blow job specialty shops like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and the star of light. soapy mps are a good choice for someone looking for a discreet relaxing sex session without the need for a hotel room. you have the chance to select the girl of your choice and the only competition you face is the possibility of another customer choosing the girl first or booking the girl. for those who need to "chat up" a girl first, the girl can be called over for a drink and chat first, before a decision is made. there need not be a great deal of high powered conversation as many soapy girls can't speak english or only know a few phrases. however some older girls may well be chosen by thai regular customers, not only for their massage expertise but also their ability to converse and act as part time counselors on all sorts of life problems experienced by the customers. so different customers have vastly different specs for the girl to be selected. the standard soapy routine:[list][*] don't arrive in the taxi unless you are sure that it is safe from taxi surcharge rip-offs.[*]you enter the mp and approach the fishbowl.[*]a papasan comes up and starts to introduce the prices and girls[*] i reply that i have been there before and take a long time to decide.[*] optionally sit down and have a drink while waiting for superior girls to come back to the fishbowl (or side-line).[*] optionally call a girl out for a chat first (this is best left to experienced soapy mongers).[*] the papasan will continue to hassle me with suggested girls. i might ask him if girl x has real breasts or has a tight body?[*] i finally make my own choice.[*] he indicates to her that she is just now chosen or calls out her number on the p.a.[*] he takes me to the counter to pay.[*] i give him a small tip from the change if he didn't irritate me. if i am taking any advice from him (risky), i will delay and tip him only at the end, and only if his advice was excellent.[*] the girl comes out, i introduce myself, and i ask her name.[*] we take the elevator (lift) to the correct floor.[*] enter the room and take the shoes off.[*] the housekeeper delivers some soapy supplies.[*] the girl switches on the tv and starts filling the bath.[*] a waitress comes to receive the drinks order for yourself and the girl (food can be ordered also).[*] the waitress returns with the drinks and you pay (you are expected to pay for what the girl orders as well).[*] the waitress returns with the change. you should leave her a tip (20 baht minimum) as she doesn't receive wages. to save time waiting for the waitress, you can instruct her to keep the change (if you only overpaid by a small amount).[*] after all this mucking around the girl helps you to undress.[*] she then undresses herself usually wrapping a towel around herself as she is modest.[*] finally if the bath is now full enough and the temperature is o.k., you can get into bath[*] during the bath you don't need to decide anything. she will indicate what you should do by voice or hand signals[*] she will soap up your entire body but spend extra time on your armpits, arse (ass for americans), and dick. getting an erection is no problem. during the washing of your body, she is probably subconsciously working out whether she wants to bbbj or cbj (some girls never bbbj) and whether kissing is on (some never do).[*] the girl may commence a bbbj in the bath.[*] the girl may give a body massage in the bath, using her sudsy breasts, bottom, and pussy mound.[*] on exit from the bath (or entry), go very carefully. its easy to slip over and crack your skull.[*] if a b-course girl, you may migrate to the inflated mattress for a full body-slide massage, firstly face down, and then face up. if erect (almost always), sex on the sudsy mattress may be permitted. another option is to have the b-course while the bath is still filling to save time (bath fills very slowly in some mps)[*] after exit from the bath or mattress, the girl will assist you to get dried.[*] you then migrate to the bed. you may have to wait for the girl to wash her pussy thoroughly.[*] if she is a traditional or other proper massage girl she will probably then give you a massage. if she isn't you can indicate a desire for a massage by lying face down. some soapy mp girls don't know anything much about massage but most should have had some training.[*] if you have a hard on still or motion her to lie down, it will be fairly obvious what you want. some customers either skip the massage (assume the girl doesn't do good massage), or leave the massage till the end with whatever time might be remaining.[*] if receiving a massage, the girl may not know whether you want sex or not. strangely, some customers go just for relaxation and conversation with the girl. its possible for the time to get away leaving not enough time for sex. so make it clear or watch the clock (its no problem for those who skip the massage).[*] if original price was not all inclusive (not common these days as most places have all inclusive prices), you will have to negotiate a price for extras. fs will probably be an extra 1000 baht as a minimum.[*] sex usually commences with the girls mouth on your nipples. but i soon upset the girls normal procedure by going down on her first.[*] the telephone will ring a few minutes before time has expired to warn that its time to wash again before leaving or you can pay to extend for another period. if you are a very difficult customer, the girl won't consider extension. if all things are well, she will probably assume that you will not extend. so if you want to extend, you need to say so smartly.[*] be careful not to slip again when going to the bath to get cleaned up.[*] if the girl worked hard for you or gave you a very nice time, you can give her an extra tip (don't bother to tip unless its at least 300 baht more (100 baht looks sort of silly). 500 baht is good. 1000 baht is a really good tip. more than that is getting into extremely generous. for some girls, even a small tip can make a huge difference to them.[*] if you want to repeat with a girl, you need to jot down her name and badge number and try to get her phone number.[*] get a phone number from a papasan who speaks good english so that you can book your favorite girl in the future. if the papasan has given you good advice, give him a tip (otherwise not). always tip for service unless its bad service.[/list][b][size=+2]3. general tips about soapy massage parlours[/size] [/b][b]3.1.[/b] arriving by taxi to a soapy mp is not advised at many locations where the taxi is paid commission for taking you there. you will then be charged a much higher rip-off price to cover what the adviser and taxi-driver will split between them. for these venues, you can take the taxi to a very close hotel, for example, and then walk the remainder. if in any doubt, don't arrive directly by taxi. take a taxi to a nearby hotel instead, and walk from there is best. if you must arrive by taxi or tuk tuk, then giotto recommends to wait outside for awhile until the taxi safely leaves and disappears into the distance. [b]3.2.[/b] out the front of the girls are "advisers" or "cheer-persons", sometimes called papasans or mamasans, who quote the prices and give advice about which girl should be chosen. they do not always give reliable advice. some may quote rip-off prices to tourists/newbies at some venues. some receive commissions or kick-backs from girls who they recommend. who can give the adviser a small tip (if they have given good advice - after your session is safest) as this is how they make their money. don't tip for bad advice. often its best to consider which girls you personally like first and ask the adviser if you are unsure. perhaps you would like to know what her figure is like or are the breasts real or fake and what size. don't allow the adviser to push you to a girl that isn't your type.[b]3.3.[/b] some mps have a special extra surcharge for non-east-asian customers (known as farangs). this can be 500 baht, 1000 baht, or even 1500 baht. the girl will probably receive only half of the surcharge. the reason for it is unclear. some venues try to discourage foreigners unless they have plenty of money which may or may not correspond to upper-class. some venues believe foreigners can afford to pay more. others may consider that girls are at more risk of being hurt by foreigners with extra large dicks but this doesn't explain why the girl doesn't receive the whole surcharge. long time customers may be able to avoid farang surcharge in some cases dependent on the papasan involved. [b]3.4.[/b] a few mps have very inconsistent prices. the papasans may try to fleece unsuspecting newbies by quoting ridiculously inflated prices and pocketing the extra money. certainly newcomers should avoid these places. they may still be suitable for regular customers or those who can give the impression of being an experienced customer. some well known rip-off venues will be identified (although could happen at many venues). sometimes its more dependent on the personality of the papasan about how much they try to rip off newcomers. knowing the official prices before you get there can help and perhaps try to specify the price you expect before they quote you a price to indicate you know what the price should be. [b]3.5.[/b] its not a good idea to visit mp venues recommended by touts on the street or by taxi drivers. these people will receive a significant to very high commission that will come out of your pocket. the venues may well be inferior and not necessarily the ones shown in their brochures.[b]3.6.[/b] choosing a girl with who you will have the right chemistry is a bit of a gamble and even experienced mongers can have bad luck choosing a below average girl on occasions. girls who put on an "act" are risky. girls who are absolute newcomers with no experience can also be risky. they may not know how to do anything. calling a girl out for a drink and chat first before deciding on the session has helped some forum members make a good decision (assumes she speaks your language). [b]3.7.[/b] it can be difficult to assess a girl's figure while she is sitting down. large bottoms or thighs can be obscured. push-up bras can make their tits look bigger. plenty of girls have silicone implants and nose-jobs. despite difficulty to see the girls figure properly, at least we know she is really a woman. there are no ladyboys.[b]3.8.[/b] some parlor girls don't have much english. varies by venue. this should not be viewed as a big problem. attend these places primarily for a relaxing bath and sex. if you require an expert massage, consult with the papasan as to who is expert.[b]3.9.[/b] its quite possible to obtain the cell-phone number of a mp girl or a cheer-person so that you can check when a particular girl is working. i maintain p4p phone numbers in my monger-sim in my cheap monger-cell-phone. this phone is only switched on when i choose. [b]3.10.[/b] it is normally expected that you will pay for your own and one lady drink in the room shortly after you enter. drink waitresses rely on small tips to make a living.[b]3.11.[/b] at many soapy mps, the price, e.g. 1800 baht is all inclusive, meaning that you get sex as well. however if the price is around 500 baht, it is likely to be a massage price only. the girl will then expect an extra tip for sex of possibly 1000 baht which should be discussed to avoid misunderstanding. a blow job would usually be cheaper and a hand relief, cheaper still. a girl will probably receive half of an all inclusive price, or even less if she has to split with an agent. so extra tips are appreciated by the girls. give extra tips for good service or where negotiated for sex that was not included in original price. [b]3.12.[/b] at many soapy mps, the official opening time may be 13:00 for example, but often not many girls are made up and ready before 15:00.[b]3.13.[/b] an mp is really only as good as the girl you choose. should you find a "star" performer, consider repeating in the future rather than taking the gamble of choosing a new girl. however its best to build a list of favorites to avoid disappointment since often you favorite may be busy, away, no longer working, etc. [b]3.14.[/b] beware that there are some soapy mps reported to discriminate racially or by skin color, claiming to be a private members club to some would-be customers. in case of mistake, i don't wish to name any. a few mps may not accept any farangs whatsoever, or perhaps only those who speak thai. [b]3.15[/b] all customers should dress at least good casual and be as body odor free as possible well when visiting mps, particularly the high class establishments. i would not show up in a singlet and thongs! poorly dressed or drunk customers may be refused entry. load mouthed and disrespectful behaviour will also not be viewed favourably. so if the establishment looks classy, act accordingly and remember that many mps are membership clubs as well (this can be seen on some of the web sites) so they wish to maintain quiet decorum so as not to upset the members.[b]3.16[/b] the addresses of some soapies are pretty much useless (not unusual in thailand)! you often need directions in order to find them or a map. telephone no like +66 (0)2 234 5671 -8 shows +66 as the prefix if calling from another country (where the following zero is dropped out) e.g. +6622345671 thru to +6622345678. if calling from inside thailand 02 is bangkok prefix, so all numbers between 022345671 and 022345678. [b]3.16[/b] the names of some soapies may have multiple spellings when changed to english, e.g. evita (avita); bangkok cozy (cosy); chavala (chavalla, chawala, chawalla); chao phya ii (phaya, phya, cp-ii, cp2, etc). this makes web and forum searches tricky.[b]3.17[/b] strangely the girls in cheaper price brackets, e.g. "fishbowl" girls often (but not always) give better service than sideline girls and "models", who may get carried away with their own self importance. really new girls are a risky proposition as they may not know what to do or may be scared of farangs due to weak english skills. older more experienced girls can be great and still good looking, but very personality dependent. the best choice is often intermediate. fresher girls but with a reasonable amount of experience, even if its not strictly mp experience. [b]3.18[/b] very heavy traffic popular mps can have very few girls available even though the total girls is large. they may be all busy. the best girls may be snapped up very quickly. in very busy places, you may need to be patient until your ideal choice comes back from a prior session. then you may need to call for her very quickly for someone else takes her away. [b]3.19[/b] don't show up at official opening time (no girls at all). best arrival time is early but not too early, e.g. 4pm but dependent on the opening time. try to arrive when most the best girls have arrived for not long and just finished their makeup to come out on view. arriving late at night like 11pm can lead to disappointment as best girls are either busy or have gone home already. very busy mps may have no girls left at all by 11pm. [b]3.20[/b] legally the girls have to be least 18 to work in a soapy mp and these days must have thai identity cards. some mps may be flouting these rules and police raids are possible but probably rare.[b]3.21[/b] girls are required to be tested regularly for general stds and hiv. some mps have on-site testing. this may help prevent faked medical tests.[b]3.22[/b] sadly some girls are on contracts with a papasan who has lent the girl money to get her family out of financial difficulty or provides all lodging, transport, meals etc. this means the mp owner gets approx half of the fee, and the pimp gets half or more of the remainder(sometimes all of it). this has a number of effects. the pimp/papasan will recommend his special contract girl(s) of course. the girls may have been moved to an inflated price bracket (more than what they are worth). if these girls give good service, they will be extremely appreciative of a tip which they may be able to keep without sharing with the pimp. on the other hand, some may be so honest as to tell the pimp about all tips received (this defies belief but thais believe they will have bad luck if deceitful, which is why vote buying in elections works). [b]3.23[/b] pricing in general assumes 2 hours for fishbowl girls and 1.5 hours for sideline girls and models. b-course girls can be either 1.5 or 2 hours, so usually will be stated. [b]3.24[/b] some girls may have a child already. these will be less popular with many asian customers as they require very "fresh" girls and very tight pussies.[b]3.25[/b] some mp girls may do 3 customers per day, others only 1, and some, might not even get a single customer, so how much money would be needed to persuade a girl not to go to work. the answer varies tremendously.[b]3.26[/b] can book more than one girl concurrently, but may be disappointed if you didn't ask the girl what she would be comfortable with. some girls are too shy for this.[b]3.27[/b] a girl can refuse to take a particular customer. there is no use being too upset if this should happen since you may not know the reason. some girls are very small and are scared of big dicks. some girls are scared of farangs as they can't speak english. some girls may be scared of certain races, perhaps for no good reason. some girls will refuse any guy with a bad reputation. some girls may refuse a customer based on hearsay from a friend which may have been a completely false story (happened to me once). certainly guys not fit, healthy, and in clean condition can be refused.[b]3.28[/b] do not complain that the supplied condom was too small. take your own supply, if necessary. i always take durex "comfort" and keep durex lube in my bag. ky is too sticky and some girls have no lube at all, assuming that their natural juices will be enough (this would only be true for guys who pop quickly). condoms create friction and therefore require lube as well. [b]3.29[/b] if your dick won't go in properly, it could be that the girl is wearing a foam sponge internally due to her period just completing recently and too avoid any chance of colour. sponges greatly interfere with comfortable sex. even though you can touch it, some girls will vehemently deny that it is there. others may be prepared to remove it. warning - condoms moving against a sponge causes friction and possible condom breakage. [b]3.30[/b] how many shots/pops are guaranteed? this is a difficult question to answer simply. there is a general assumption that in 2 hour sessions, there is enough time for 2 shots assuming that the customer reaches each shot relatively easily. this will not apply to all customers. some will be happy with just one shot (that is me), and some get no shots at all (may just want to talk to the girl). i have heard from girls that some customers shoot so easily that they could get 4 or more shots into a session. in general customers should ask beforehand (the girl or maybe the papasan) for 2 shots and negotiate a suitable tip for the girl which may be just 500 baht tip. at some places, such as darling, the girl may expect more tip than that for the 2nd shot. possibly annies are expecting 500 baht already for the first shot and more for the second. catherines and la defense are reputed to guarantee 2nd shots. many mps provide bj and body massage in the tub. if first pop results, then no reason why shouldn't get a 2nd shot on the bed, but best to ask and promise a suitable tip. so in the end the tip has to be commensurate to how the the girl has to work and to the number of shots. cheap charlies will probably find it hard to get more than one shot and any decent service at all. a bangkok cozy girl will only be making 600 baht out of total price of 1300 baht. so promise her a 500 baht tip, and she will be happy to please you. for 1k she might be prepared to go to extra special things. on the other hand, i get good service from most girls before they have any idea what i will tip. but i have hardly ever asked for 2 shots. [b][size=+2]4. useful website links [/size] [/b][url=http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.754892,100.576229&spn=0.104878,0.162563&z=13]google maps: bkk soapy mps[/url][url=http://www.soapy-massage.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-list-a-to-z.html]soapy massage - not totally up to date but generally the best site.[/url] [url=http://guide.2thebigmango.com/thailand/bangkok/massage/soapies/]guide to the big mango[/url][url=http://www.bangkok999.com/]bangkok999 - detail pages seem to have white print on white background next to headings in yellow.[/url] if necessary, drag cursor to highlight the text in order to see it. [url=www.ilikemassage.com/index_price2008.htm]ilm price index 2008[/url][url=http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ja%7cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/searchbusinesstype.cfm%3fbusinesstypeid%3d3%26member%3dyes]g diary - trans to eng[/url][url=http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7cen&u=http://www.gdiary.com/searchbusinesstype.cfm%3fbusinesstypeid%3d3%26member%3dno]g diary - trans to eng[/url][url=www.ilikemassage.com]ilikemassage - unfortunately this web site is in thai language[/url] [url=www.midnightthailand.com]midnight - in thai language[/url][url=http://www.bathlover.com/index.php?board=3.0]bath lover - for thai lang experts only[/url]some of the above sites (plus others not listed) directly quote same text as each other on a given mp with no acknowlegement, so who knows where the text originally came from and how old it is.not all useful links can be given due to forum rules concerning other forums, but a google search on words: 'bangkok soapy massage' will pull up some other links with something useful. e.g. to-nite, and private[b][size=+2]5. acknowledgements to forum members with major contributions by detailed postings[/size] [/b][list][*][b]"giotto"[/b]who maintains the sukhumvit list of mps and always willing to help.[*][b]"allover"[/b][*][b]"asiatraveler2"[/b][*][b]"canyon"[/b][*][b]"fast eddie 48"[/b][*][b]"meaty"[/b][*][b]"nic frenchy"[/b][*][b]"ralph kramden"[/b][*][b]"rca knight"[/b][*][b]"traveller1234"[/b][*][b]"undercoverh"[/b][/list]honorable mentions go to: horntoad, player2, phantomtiger2, kilmarnock, fox2, txl muc, satrai2000 with a few soapy postings. apologies to other soapy expert members of the forum (some more expert than me), however the above members of my "soapy hall of fame" seem to have posted the most detailed information related to their soapy mp experiences over the last two years. the list will be added to, as i research the bangkok mp thread posts.[b][size=+2]6. disclaimer[/size] [/b]every effort has been made to make this information free from bias and financial influence. there are no guarantees or warranty attached to any information here. some errors will occur. please be aware that information given may become out of date and this relates particularly to pricing. some venues do not quote exactly the same prices to every customer.your milage may also vary considerably in relation to what particular girls provide and how skilled they are (at massage for example). some details of establishments may not be available until such time as a forum member reports that information. there are many things about venues not known to the author. please assist me to correct wrong information or make suggestions for improvement by sending me a pm. please post your detailed experiences or findings in the bangkok massage parlour thread of the isg forum. [i][b]author: mick licker (apr 2008)[/b][/i]
I have gone to Thongolor II. Not easy to find, but thanks to Mick elite maps. I had no problem to find it next to emporium in a little alley.I went there in the middle of the afternoon after a movie session at the Emporium.Limited line up. Only 4 girls to choose from. I go for JOJO. Looks descent on the picture but in reality, she is very short and her face is really plain. I?d rate her 5 max.I paid 1500 for the scrub massage and the oil massage.Of course she asks if I want the "special". I said ok go for it.The massage was very average. But I gotta say that the venue and the room are super clean.After the scrub massage, I had a nice shower, I was glad cause that shit she puts on me kind of stinks! Then I had the oil massage and the "special" which wasn?t so special. Just a boring CBJ et a boring FS.I?m not sure I?d recommend the place during day time cause the choice is really limited.Honestly the massage isn?t go great so I don?t see what advtange this has against soapies like Darling or the one on Ratchapichek.It?s not cheap either 1500 for Thongolor for the massage course, and 1500 extra for the tip.For 3K there are clearly better options in BKK.And if you want a REAL spa treat. Any 5 stars hotel can do it much better.Overall I don't see what asset a place like this has.
I know there are mongers out there with an extensive breadth of expertise in the real world. Are there are editors or publishers that would be interested in working with Mick to maybe publish a Soapies Guidebook.I bet NicF would be happy to sell advertising for this publication, and a few of us others would be responsible for initial distribution to the various soapie establishments!Mick - you've outdone yourself, again :)
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I know there are mongers out there with an extensive breadth of expertise in the real world. Are there are editors or publishers that would be interested in working with Mick to maybe publish a Soapies Guidebook.[/QUOTE]t may be more cost effective and certainly more immediate to have this data hosted somewhere on a sub-domain of ISG or a linked sister site where dated field reports/reviews can be culled and collated. This way, anyone with Internet connection has access to current data anytime during a visit. Each logical section (FAQ, by area, establishment, etc) could also sport a link to a PDF download for those who want the convenience of a condensed printout prior to departing for a trip.I realize this would duplicate other soapie sites but the value differentiator would be CURRENT and DATED reviews. Another option, still electronic, is an e-book which can be sold on-line to cover hosting costs. But this would probably mean monthly updates at best (which may be adequate).I haven't covered the area of copyrights for ISG site contents. Hope these suggestions don't break any forum guidelines. My apologies if they do.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I have gone to Thongolor II. Not easy to find, but thanks to Mick elite maps. I had no problem to find it next to emporium in a little alley.I went there in the middle of the afternoon after a movie session at the Emporium.Limited line up. Only 4 girls to choose from. I go for JOJO. Looks descent on the picture but in reality, she is very short and her face is really plain. I?d rate her 5 max.<cut>Overall I don't see what asset a place like this has.[/QUOTE]Well obviously some of the other girls are a lot better.Others have had a good time here.I am yet to have a bad experience there. I would say that Bum(Boom), a little cutie on my 2nd last time, was weak in the massage department but she had other attributes that I really liked. A beautiful pussy for starters. I wasn't concerned at all about the massage.Nic often visits several places until he finds what he wants.You should not choose a girl until had a chance to meet her. Then you can just say she is not your type.Once I have got a girl that I like is easier to get the chemistry going.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I know there are mongers out there with an extensive breadth of expertise in the real world. Are there are editors or publishers that would be interested in working with Mick to maybe publish a Soapies Guidebook.I bet NicF would be happy to sell advertising for this publication, and a few of us others would be responsible for initial distribution to the various soapie establishments!Mick - you've outdone yourself, again :)[/QUOTE]Well a guide needs to be web based so that can be kept up to date. There are not enough people who would want to buy a guide. So advertising sponserdhip would be the only way to go.But really, the interest in in Soapies is low compared to Oilies. My Soapies Map has just got up to around 600 views where as the Oilies Map is well over 16,000 views.That just about sums it up. There are only a small percentage of Soapy Mongers (more popular with Thais) and, of those, many will have their favourite venues already. Some are too far to go when 100s of Oilies are near by in Sukhumwit.To get a lot of interest I would need to appeal to the much wider Thai audience. But my Thai writing skills are weak.So lets not get carried away. I am merely trying to provide an option and encourage guys visiting a soapy to post on what they found. It also causes me to explore new options and sometimes find something worthwhile returning to.The ideal book would be "Freaky tales but true from the Experiences of MP and bar girls". Would be fun doing the research.