Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Mike De H]
I wonder if its the same girl (Lora) mentioned in Descerning's post.[/QUOTE]Maybe maybe, the one I been seeing for a while also has her cell off. I wonder whether another victim? The one I mentioned was from Tajikistan though.

[QUOTE=Mike De H]Today I found out why two days after my last report about going "gooey" in dubai, the Gitrl I went nuts about stopped calling - writing.
... Now deported to Kyrgiztan (or however you spell it) where she is under arrest at the airport. It is a crininal offence there to be deported and caries a two year jail sentence.

Of course she can never go back to the UAE now, can she. Hopefully she will escape the two years in Kyrgyz. Why destroy such a young life? She hever hurt anybody.

So all that glitters in the UAE is not gold huh? I am gutted. Just came back from a great mongering trip in Germany too.[/QUOTE]
Mike - I can understand you being gutted as you spent so much time with her doing regular touristy and BF/GF things. If you're still in contact with her and want to help her out, about US$1,000 later she can be out of jail. Unfortunately, she'll probably be back in Dubai within a few weeks, risking the same again. I don't want to sound hard, but she is one of hundreds every month. It's a risky business in many ways.

[QUOTE=Piper1] If you're still in contact with her and want to help her out, about US$1,000 later she can be out of jail. Unfortunately, she'll probably be back in Dubai within a few weeks, risking the same again. [/QUOTE]

I thought she would never be able to get back into the UAE. She will be on file and be blocked at the airport no?

As for the $1000, then yes, but not if she is going to be stupid and risk it again. No way!

[QUOTE=Mike De H]I thought she would never be able to get back into the UAE. Shewill be on file no?

As for the $1000, then yes, but not if she is going to be stupid and risk it again. No way![/QUOTE]The big problem with re-entry is eye-scanning upon deportation (more accurate than finger printing), but a little baksheesh can make files mysteriously disappear.

With two different girls at two different times, I can remember getting desperate phone calls from jail and helped by meeting shady characters to pay "release fees" in dark side-streets at 2 or 3am. One girl took forever to pay my money back, the other one was arrested in exactly the same spot as her first arrest a week later and deported. Khallaas! (Enough!) I'm not a single man any more, so I'm in no position to help anymore. I now also avoid having regulars for obvious reasons.

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On a brighter but somewhat contradictory note, I finally arranged a date for Thursday night with non-WG whose partner is overseas, and she knows I'm not single. We both discussed a "discrete relationship" which she cruelly re-interpreted as "a bit on the side". Okay, if you want to put it that way. :) Again, she looks good in the pic and sounds great on the phone. Only downside is when I sent her my pic, her only reaction was: "Not bad".

Or was it "Not Brad".

Will see if we connect. She was laughing a lot at my bad jokes, which is a good start. She also happens to live around the corner from me. Trouble brewin' ...

[QUOTE=Piper1]She was laughing a lot at my bad jokes, which is a good start. She also happens to live around the corner from me. Trouble brewin' ...[/QUOTE]
Piper

Anyone who laughs at your jokes must be special in your eyes :)

Remember the old saying my friend "never shit on your own doorstep" (or same part of Dubai....)

See you soon, double date? PM me

WR

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Piper,

Anyone who laughs at your jokes must be special in your eyes :)

Remember the old saying my friend "never shit on your own doorstep" (or same part of Dubai....)

See you soon, double date? PM me

WR[/QUOTE]
WR - I always laugh at my own jokes - that makes at least one. ;)

Yep I'm aware of the risk, but I'll take it nice'n'slow (as usual :)).

I haven't heard from the double-date girl for a week. This is a different girl - I received her first email yesterday.

It would appear the "sweeps" are a bit more wide-ranging than normal.

An old friend (the way-too GFE Irina) was picked up, only for overstaying, no morals charges, spent two weeks in detention and was deported. Just got a call from Russia, she is home safe.

Another friend was picked up a few days ago, she stepped out of her building to hit the little store on the corner (phone card) and was stopped and asked for papers, guess what, she is now in jail. Her problems are complicated because some fine gentlemen took her passport upon her arrival last year.

Souces suggest she could enjoy up to 6 months in jail until the Russian embassy gets around to repatriating her. Swell.

Neither of these girls were working at the time, so the stories of it not being safe to walk the streets would appear to be true.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]It would appear the "sweeps" are a bit more wide-ranging than normal.[/QUOTE]Is this just DXB, or AUH as well?

[quote=Mike De H]Two days after submitting the report, she got arrested and two weeks in Jail. Now deported to Kyrgiztan (or however you spell it) where she is under arrest at the airport. It is a crininal offence there to be deported and caries a two year jail sentence. ... So all that glitters in the UAE is not gold huh? I am gutted. [/quote]Not the FKK scene, huh? Unfortunately, you're seeing the dark underbelly of the "fun and frolic" nights. When you see her disappearing in the taxi, best to go into "out of sight, out of mind" mode; her reality outside of the "time with you" not fun to think about. As JSF mentioned elsewhere, exploited by all.

Most depressing cases are those of the freshly arrived, nowhere near paying off the debt incurred in getting here. As mentioned by BarCrawler, [u]at least[/u] a double whammy - how do you explain to your family exactly "why" you left "the golden streets" of dxb and that well-paying "job"? Then tack on jail time back home... Like a movie set, disillusioning to look behind the facade.

[quote=Mike De H]As for the $1000, then yes, but not if she is going to be stupid and risk it again. No way! [/quote]What choice? I have no real knowledge, but just something about it suggests that debts incurred to originally get here are not forgiven due to extenuating circumstances, especially if borrowed from "certain" people. That $30 USD per MONTH job back home just won't cut it...


[quote=redbaron2]She told me that they are going to start going house to house today. they are going to start from Bur Dubai and end to Deira. All the ladies who were caught yesterday were coming from the York hotel and they were trying to get taxy to their home. Most of them are from Ethiopia and China. There was no lady from our country. They were 27 ladies. ... Any news in the local press about this? Do you think it is normal?[/quote]RB2: did confirm with a York fav that yes, a number of girls picked up other night from York. "Now, too many CID around".

While I don't think there will be a house-to-house search from Bur Dubai to Deira, I also don't believe the census results will ONLY be used for stats. And there [i]are[/i] reasons why certain letters get published in newspapers. Cite on other forum from Khaleej Times, 1 May, quoted a police offical saying "more than 1,000 prostitutes were deported recently." I actually don't think that is an exaggeration.

In my years here, this is the most severe crackdown I've seen. Certainly before, there have been others: too many girls behind Imperial... too many girls behind Ramada... behind Spinneys (which just goes to show LE only [u]moved[/u] the problem, not stamped it out). Ramadan... DSF (looks bad for the "civilian" visitors...) When this one was announced, in conjunction with "Year of Aids Awareness", I just thought "round up the usual suspects..."

But, for me, this is different. Besides the usual bar locations, houses are being targeted, and not just MP locations. Complaints from neighbors, too many girls seen leaving/arriving by govt "observers"... There ARE knocks on doors (so much for the safety of your own apartment). A-listers not really affected: they can afford the legit 3 year work visas, live in "low density" housing, pick and chose their customers... But the masses don't have those "luxuries". Bars are cautioning wg's to be discreet; at York, girls seen grabbing customers can be made to leave/banned. Seems that gone are the days when the door opened, a male walked in, and there was a large "gravitational" surge towards him... Look what you reported from Astoria... There is fear in the air, and there are reasons why some of the bars look a bit sparser than normal. Just asked a former Miss Wed if she'd like to go out to Seaview for some music/dance. Her answer? "NO, NO, NO; last night, too much police. Just go your house".

From [b]MY[/b] view: in 4 previous years, all total, I've known 1, friend of a friend, who was deported. Girls cautious during sweeps, but numbers [u]INSIDE[/u] unchanged (even up as some came in from the "heat").

In the 1st 3 months of this year, girl I "personally" knew gone, another "personal" girl just missed being caught up in a sweep (her old room, moved out of 3 weeks before, raided), and a buddy's girl now in jail. Bar numbers down (not zero, but certainly less choice), except perhaps on weekends (the chance of a good payday makes the risk worth it?) Number of girls, not bs'ing/excuses, really ARE "stay at home tonight". Most everyone has a friend sent home "prematurely". For me, it is "same-same, but different."


[quote=Alexq2000]But the what was exciting about the encounter was the novelty of picking someone at a bar in dubai and taking them to a hotel.[/quote]Oh, to be young [not jaded] again.

I think you're right Bravo (and others). From these reports and news reports, there does seem to be fear in the air for the gals. The two Chinese girls who came back to my place a few nights ago for for short time ended up asking to stay the whole night. I thought they just wanted to get to sleep. When I "ummed and aahed" a bit, they almost begged to stay the night because of "police".

[QUOTE=Mike De H]I thought she would never be able to get back into the UAE. She will be on file and be blocked at the airport no?

As for the $1000, then yes, but not if she is going to be stupid and risk it again. No way![/QUOTE]

If she can't pay the penalty she will be jailed and deported, retinal scan and min 12 month ban with, in reality, no chance of return ever.

As for $1K forget it. now looking at 12000dhms to escape the scan. Its also essential to have a local contact. Paying this the file is also 'lost'.

If they do the above and avoid the scan it is possible to return. Often the girls make a marriage of convenience 'in home country' to change their passport name. The money in Dxb is still a draw.

Most will take a loan to return - if ever you hear them talk about the 'balance' this is what they are referring to. Its common practice (but illegal) for sponsers to take passports. Average loan is $6K about 6-9 months work and of course by then they are on an overstay and the whole process starts over.

Best not to think about it and just enjoy the kind of young women most men of my age can only fantasize about.

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]
Best not to think about it [/QUOTE]Either that or take up a new hobby. Sounds harsh, but you are actually very correct. We are not dealing with UNICEF types here.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Either that or take up a new hobby. QUOTE]

Hey, whats all this "New Hobby" stuff!!!

There's no need for that kind of language LOL

Mike, I simply wanted to point out, that if you are unhappy, or uncomfortable with your hobby, it might be time to look for a new one.

Me? I am the master of denial (ask my mirrors!) No sweat!

- you enjoy camping in the sand
- you're not surprised to see a goat in passenger seat
- you think the uncut version of "little house on the prairie" is racy
- you serve coffee in a thimble
- you expect the confirmation of your flight reservation to be 'inshahallah"
- you think everyone's first name is al
- you don't expect to eat dinner until 10.30pm
- you need a sweater when it's 80 deg f
- your ideal holiday is anywhere you can eat pork
- you have to write an official apology if your toes are uncovered
- you expect everyone to own a gsm
- your idea of housework is leaving a list for the houseboy
- you think a picnic means pulling over on the side of the road with
your tv and sheeshah
- you think that skis were developed for sand use (not anymore)
- you think speed limits are only advisory
- you expect to see tractors driving at 40kmph on the motorway
- you think black is appropriate day time wear
- you expect to go to jail when a local hits your car from behind
at a stop sign
- you wear a jacket inside and take it off outside
- you think a shopping mall is a covered souq
- you can judge a perfect '10' by her ankles
- you don't question how an id card works for women wearing abayas
- you think carpets belong on the wall
- you think the further you edge into the intersection, the faster the
light will turn green
- you believe that the definition of a nanosecond is the interval between
the time the light turns green and the guy behind you starts blowing
his horn
you give directions by land marks instead of by road names
- you think being liberated is sitting in the family section of a restaurant
- you think a red light means run it
- you think only men should hold hands in public
- you understand that wadi bashing isn't a criminal act
- you make left turns from the far right lane
- you make right turns from the far left lane
- you make u turns from any lane you want
- you know a traffic jam on this side of the road means an
accident on the other side
- you measure time by the prayer calls
- you find everybody thinks they can speak englis'
- you can't figure out if the city's name is djubai or dyubai
- you think a jumeira jane's outlook to life is normal
- having a belly is a sign of being healthy
- it's ok for a woman to have a moustache and sometimes even a beard
- you think the hazard lights are fog warning lights
- you find you've visited all the new malls that mushroom by the minute
- you still buy dubai duty free's lottery tickets when it would have
been cheaper to pay the down payment for the bmw instead
- you know which side of a shawarma to unwrap first
- you look forward to rainy days.

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this was recently sent to me and i immediately thought of you guys, lol.

apologies if above appears ot, or has been recycled for the umpteenth time....