Bangkok Hotels

[QUOTE=BlueKangaroo;2072555]By the way, has anyone have any experience bringing girls back to hotels like Hua Chang or W Bangkok?

Tried searching online and found some websites that lists guest-friendly hotels, but neither hotel is mentioned, just wondering if that's a "no" to bringing guests back, or if no one's really explored it yet.[/QUOTE]This website claims W is guest friendly:

[URL]http://www.gfriendlyhotels.com/guest-friendly-hotels-bangkok.html[/URL]

I have stayed many Hotels in Sathorn and never had a problem, even if Hotel says late night visitors not welcome. My tactic when checking in is to say that my girlfriend will arrive much later.

I suspect I have avoided problems even when Hotel official policy maybe different. Maybe it is just I am not changing girls all the time and behave like she is my GF.

In Thailand rules are made to be broken. It's extremely rare to encounter a problem, however I do recall at Baiyoke Suites, having a problem, where security staff, wanted me to pay a joiner or pay a kickback to them to avoid the official one. Many years ago. So I keep the option open to check in a "girlfriend" some time later on, just in case, and very rarely have to use it. Once any problem occurs, it's time to shift Hotels.

Hotel Solo on Suk Soi 2 said my girl was too young to be allowed as a visitor (at 19) but did allow me to check her in as an official person staying in the room. About 4 or 5 years ago. Go figure! Silly rules. Otherwise I would have cancelled my stay at the Hotel immediately. No one should support Hotels that want joiner fees, when already booked for 2 persons. Does it actually happen? I don't know.

Some Hotels have ways to enter without going past the check in desk, but it is harder to avoid security. Once or twice I have been questioned at Hotel security when entering with my GF who was already checked in. Probably was Intra Regent and Rembrandt from memory. Probably because GF was 20 years younger.

The Pullman (ex Grand Millenium) was a hotel where could the back way and not pass the check in desk or any security to speak of. Probably Guest Friendly in any case.

Several years back booking.com claimed to know which Hotels were guest friendly. I have never actually asked though with them or at any Hotel. Bangkok Palace was the only family Hotel I ever stayed in accidentally, where bringing a girl was definitely not allowed. At least 15 years ago.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2073277]This website claims W is guest friendly:

[URL]http://www.gfriendlyhotels.com/guest-friendly-hotels-bangkok.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Ah sweet thanks! I agree about rules being broken, I guess it also depends on how you do it. If you're being discreet I have a feeling you could get away with it even if the hotel doesn't allow it. I mean they would hate to be in the position of accusing your girlfriend as being a prostitute. I've personally never tested this theory myself but I can imagine it could work.

Well after some great advice I set up about 3 dates in Bangkok and about 5 in Pattaya. One in BKK seems for sure but I got a problem. I'm staying at four points by Sheraton. The girl is 18. My email from them states 20+. I've read on a previous report way back that it's possible to use a different entrance to skip front desk. Anyone have 100% success using this entrance? Is there another hotel close that would allow 18 year old while still taking ID? Lady seems really nice, good English. But like to keep guard up seeing how I found her off Thai friendly. Any suggestions? What would you do?

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2074305]Any suggestions? What would you do?[/QUOTE]Better take a look at her ID to be sure if she's indeed 18. At both Hilton Sukhumvit and DoubleTree Sukhumvit there were no ID checks last year, none of the staff even bothered if or who I brought back as a joiner.

This is what I would do:

(1) Check the girls ID to ensure she is indeed 18 years.

(2) I have stayed at the Fourt Points. The Hotel Security is very passive. You should not have any problems.
When entering the lobby, walk with purpose and confidence. It helps, if girl is dressed appropriately i. e. not like a street hooker!

(3) There is a side entrance into the Lobby.
I never used it myself. It is used by guests who want to take a short cut to Terminal 21. You can use it by yourself to see if it is convenient.

Let us know how it goes. Good Luck!

~BKKguru.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2074305]Well after some great advice I set up about 3 dates in Bangkok and about 5 in Pattaya. One in BKK seems for sure but I got a problem. I'm staying at four points by Sheraton. The girl is 18. My email from them states 20+. I've read on a previous report way back that it's possible to use a different entrance to skip front desk. Anyone have 100% success using this entrance? Is there another hotel close that would allow 18 year old while still taking ID? Lady seems really nice, good English. But like to keep guard up seeing how I found her off Thai friendly. Any suggestions? What would you do?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2074305]Well after some great advice I set up about 3 dates in Bangkok and about 5 in Pattaya. One in BKK seems for sure but I got a problem. I'm staying at four points by Sheraton. The girl is 18. My email from them states 20+. I've read on a previous report way back that it's possible to use a different entrance to skip front desk. Anyone have 100% success using this entrance? Is there another hotel close that would allow 18 year old while still taking ID? Lady seems really nice, good English. But like to keep guard up seeing how I found her off Thai friendly. Any suggestions? What would you do?[/QUOTE]You can go to Radisson Blu, very close to Terminal 21. They do not check the ID.

Jb.

I will attempt to walk in like I own the place. Thanks for your recommendations! Got a few plan be's atleast. I will report back on the success of using side entrance.

P. S Thanks for tip on checking ID. Didn't really occur to me she could be lying. That could of been embarrassing. Get caught sneaking up with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] lady. Good tip!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2074305]Well after some great advice I set up about 3 dates in Bangkok and about 5 in Pattaya. One in BKK seems for sure but I got a problem. I'm staying at four points by Sheraton. The girl is 18. My email from them states 20+. I've read on a previous report way back that it's possible to use a different entrance to skip front desk. Anyone have 100% success using this entrance? Is there another hotel close that would allow 18 year old while still taking ID? Lady seems really nice, good English. But like to keep guard up seeing how I found her off Thai friendly. Any suggestions? What would you do?[/QUOTE]Worth noting that the Solo Hotel would not allow a 19 YO joiner, but would allow me to check her into the room as a normal customer (I booked for two). She was to be staying the whole night anyway. This maybe a remedy of last resort.

Has anybody stayed at Bliss Residence, Suk Soi 33, recently? Recommend? Girl friendly?

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2074675]P. S Thanks for tip on checking ID. Didn't really occur to me she could be lying. That could of been embarrassing. Get caught sneaking up with a xxxxxxxx lady. Good tip![/QUOTE]Embarrassing, immoral, and illegal. That is why I much prefer the hotel examine and hold their ID. Better for both parties really.

How would you know if the ID is fake or not? Do you know what year it is on the Thai calendar?

SL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2074763]Worth noting that the Solo Hotel would not allow a 19 YO joiner, but would allow me to check her into the room as a normal customer (I booked for two). She was to be staying the whole night anyway. This maybe a remedy of last resort.[/QUOTE]If you book a girl into the room you give her room privileges so she can charge things to the room and request a key. May not be a problem but be aware.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2074763]Worth noting that the Solo Hotel would not allow a 19 YO joiner, but would allow me to check her into the room as a normal customer (I booked for two). She was to be staying the whole night anyway. This maybe a remedy of last resort.[/QUOTE]This might have something to do with a nuance in Thai law regarding P4P activities between consenting couples, which the hotel would probably assume is the case with a "joiner" vs your girlfriend or a regular traveling companion. This would also be pertinent to the "age of consent" question. The age of consent in Thailand is 18 as far as I know. But not if you are offering the girl money for sex. That, I believe, is 20.

Much about Thai law regarding the legality or not of prostitution is vague, imo. For instance, I don't believe it is technically illegal to pay a woman for sexual services or for her to paid for such services (but it is illegal for someone else to live off the proceeds of prostitution; a pimp, a bar or a venue that provides rooms explicitly stated to be used for P4P activities). The exception being offering money to a girl 19 or younger for sex. I believe there is a Thai law against that, although, as I said, this is sometimes vague and worthy of debate. On the other hand, a hotel (and the cops) might not be interested in debating the issue.

I assume the idea is that if an adult woman needs money and is willing to exchange sex for it, that is her business. But offering money to a girl 19 or younger might be a case of too much "coercion", inducing her with a temptation too good to resist to do something she would not freely do otherwise. And that she is likely still under parental supervision and perhaps it is her parents who have put her up to it, relating to the other restriction on "living off the proceeds" of prostitution.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2075762]This might have something to do with a nuance in Thai law regarding P4P activities between consenting couples, which the hotel would probably assume is the case with a "joiner" vs your girlfriend or a regular traveling companion. This would also be pertinent to the "age of consent" question. The age of consent in Thailand is 18 as far as I know. But not if you are offering the girl money for sex. That, I believe, is 20.

Much about Thai law regarding the legality or not of prostitution is vague, imo. For instance, I don't believe it is technically illegal to pay a woman for sexual services or for her to paid for such services (but it is illegal for someone else to live off the proceeds of prostitution; a pimp, a bar or a venue that provides rooms explicitly stated to be used for P4P activities). The exception being offering money to a girl 19 or younger for sex. I believe there is a Thai law against that, although, as I said, this is sometimes vague and worthy of debate. On the other hand, a hotel (and the cops) might not be interested in debating the issue.

I assume the idea is that if an adult woman needs money and is willing to exchange sex for it, that is her business. But offering money to a girl 19 or younger might be a case of too much "coercion", inducing her with a temptation too good to resist to do something she would not freely do otherwise. And that she is likely still under parental supervision and perhaps it is her parents who have put her up to it, relating to the other restriction on "living off the proceeds" of prostitution.[/QUOTE]Very good points.

Still have 18 YO girls needing to support their baby, possibly one or two parents of the girl, and possibly even younger sister's schooling, etc. These girls don't like to be discriminated against in terms of what types of work they are allowed to do. It's not always a case of being forced or coerced by someone. They have a baby and could have been fucking from a young age. In some cases girls have started work at some P4 P establishment, immediately after the appropriate birthday. My recent soapy girl at first said she had 4 years experience and now was 21 nearly 22. She then said she started at 18. I don't know which part was totally true. She could have moved to Emmanuelle from some dodgy place like Nataree, potentially.

What makes young girls want to be a hooker or accept money from guys ? Some categories come to mind:
1. Single mother wants to support herself and baby. Very common.
2. Girl supports Thai boy pimp. Also very common.
3. Girls wants to be independent and likes to party and fuck with foreigners. Maybe rare but I know a girl definitely in this category.
4. Girls on contract with a large debt to be paid.
5. Girls not Thai (from very poor countries), possibly not educated, that cannot get any other work for money sufficient to live on.
6. Lazy girls who want money to come easily without too much hard work. I include this, not in order to be judgemental. We all take the easiest most well paid jobs we can do. The manager of my apartment block does not work hard. Most of the time has nothing to do, but has to be there. Probably makes a lot less than hookers. The night guard works even less hard. Sleeps on the job or watches TV.

I prefer to be supporting girls of category 1, 3, 5, and 6 and not the other two, if I can know (not easy for new girls), regardless of the age.
Nataree was closed down due to points 4 and 5 combined with girls too young, and possibly tax evasion. So severe breeching of the rules.

We all need to take care to not accidentally breech rules that can be trouble, sometimes without knowing it. Hard when the rules are so wishy washy.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2075911]Very good points.

Still have 18 YO girls needing to support their baby, possibly one or two parents of the girl, and possibly even younger sister's schooling, etc. These girls don't like to be discriminated against in terms of what types of work they are allowed to do. It's not always a case of being forced or coerced by someone. They have a baby and could have been fucking from a young age. In some cases girls have started work at some P4 P establishment, immediately after the appropriate birthday. My recent soapy girl at first said she had 4 years experience and now was 21 nearly 22. She then said she started at 18. I don't know which part was totally true. She could have moved to Emmanuelle from some dodgy place like Nataree, potentially.

What makes young girls want to be a hooker or accept money from guys ? Some categories come to mind:
1. Single mother wants to support herself and baby. Very common.
2. Girl supports Thai boy pimp. Also very common.
3. Girls wants to be independent and likes to party and fuck with foreigners. Maybe rare but I know a girl definitely in this category.
4. Girls on contract with a large debt to be paid.
5. Girls not Thai (from very poor countries), possibly not educated, that cannot get any other work for money sufficient to live on.
6. Lazy girls who want money to come easily without too much hard work. I include this, not in order to be judgemental. We all take the easiest most well paid jobs we can do. The manager of my apartment block does not work hard. Most of the time has nothing to do, but has to be there. Probably makes a lot less than hookers. The night guard works even less hard. Sleeps on the job or watches TV.

I prefer to be supporting girls of category 1, 3, 5, and 6 and not the other two, if I can know (not easy for new girls), regardless of the age.
Nataree was closed down due to points 4 and 5 combined with girls too young, and possibly tax evasion. So severe breeching of the rules.

We all need to take care to not accidentally breech rules that can be trouble, sometimes without knowing it. Hard when the rules are so wishy washy.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is strange that the age of consent regarding "girlfriend" sex vs "P4P" sex vs drinking and so on isn't simply set at the same age like 18 or whatever. However, we do the same thing in the USA; the age of consent might be 18 in most places but the legal age to buy alcohol is 21 as I recall.

Interesting sequence of events regarding a Thai girl I have been seeing who just turned 20 years old. She is not a bargirl, not a P4P girl even on the side, works long hours at a Starbuck's-type coffee shop and comes over to stay all night with me 2-3 times per week. I met her and began our relationship a few months before she turned 20. During the time before she turned 20 I tried several times to reimburse her for simple things like taxi fare to and from my apartment, maybe about 100 baht each way at most, "buy you lunch" at work today, that kind of thing. Every time I tried to press the money into her hand with a polite wai or slip it into her pocket with a smile and a comment about it being "for taxi" or whatever, she would scowl and quickly hand it back to me. However, since her 20th birthday, she has been fine with accepting this kind of small money reimbursement from me. LOL. Was she aware of that nuance in the law and worried that someone might mistakenly think I was paying her for sex when she was only 19? Or that I might be offering it that way? Or maybe she is just more comfortable accepting it now that we have been together for a few months. I don't know but with this one anything is possible. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2076116]Yes, it is strange that the age of consent regarding "girlfriend" sex vs "P4P" sex vs drinking and so on isn't simply set at the same age like 18 or whatever. However, we do the same thing in the USA; the age of consent might be 18 in most places but the legal age to buy alcohol is 21 as I recall.[/QUOTE]The age of consent in the USA is 16, 17 or 18 depending on the state. And in Thailand it's 15.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent[/URL]