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[QUOTE=Harold444;1436359]All because guy read the one outlying report that Rainbow girls do 2 hour short times. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1437108]Yes, it's unfortunate, but a lot of "outlier" stories, one-offs, best-case scenarios, etc., are taken as the norm for P4P in Thailand. But there's also little reason for individual punters to believe that such good luck will repeat itself. To base one's expectations of P4P in Thailand on one-in-a-million stories is plain silly.[/QUOTE]I had a two hour short-time with a girl from Shark on my recent trip. The trip before that I had a two hour / two pop short-time with a girl from Rainbow 2 (in fact a few nights later I took her for short-time and she voluntarily stayed for long-time for the same price).

These things do happen and to suggest such occurrences are one-in-a-million is ridiculous. It might be more worthwhile trying to work out why it may happen to some people but not others. Personally I don't think it's down to my boyish good looks, I think it's down to the fact that I smile, have fun and get to know the girls, making it as little like a business transaction as possible.

To suggest that there is some kind of set of rules that applies to all girls, from all bars, to all men, of all types, with differing modus operandi, in all seasons, at all times of the night is naïve. There are many different factors to consider.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1437108]Yes, it's unfortunate, but a lot of "outlier" stories, one-offs, best-case scenarios, etc, are taken as the norm for P4P in Thailand. Those sorts of posts remind me of tales I used to read about hitch-hiking in the "underground" press back in the 1960s and 1970s. I recall one from a guy who said he began hitch-hiking at the entrance to the Holland Tunnel on Manhattan and within five minutes, a car stopped that took him all the way to San Francisco. Certainly it's possible for something like that to happen; every lottery has a winner, just like it's POSSIBLE that a Rainbow girl once gave a two-hour S / T session or a "stunner" accepted 1, 000 baht for L / T. But there's also little reason for individual punters to believe that such good luck will repeat itself. To base one's expectations of P4P in Thailand on one-in-a-million stories is plain silly.

Even worse, wind-ups and deliberate disinformation are accepted as truth by the most gullible readers. On some of the Pattaya-based boards, small-scale con men and scammers have been regarded as knowledgeable insiders regarding the local scene.

Evil[/QUOTE]Thank you for this report. I have had a really good laugh about it. The occurrence you witnessed however does reflect what a lot of discussion on ISG seems to be all about, to find the cheapest fuck available. I have been living herefor quite some time now and of course the prices have risen. Same as everywhere else in the world. However SW's here still give you most of the time great service and some idiots think they can take advantage of them because they read it in a forum. Don't get me wrong I haggle the price in advance like everyone else and bring the quote down to what I want to pay. When the girl has given great service I usually give her what she had asked for in the first place which means she knows that I know the going rate and the next time she sees me I have preferred customer status. This just happened last night at the massage place opposite Nana Plaza. I had been with one of the girls there, Pan a week ago and passing by last night she came running when she saw me gave me a hug and dragged me over to the other girls. After some chatter she took another girl, Ana by the hand and said I should have a 2 girl massage. Ana had a real rack on her and a great rump which meant I was not going to say no. The short of a long story is that a had I great threesome with 2 pops at 2500 Baht which I upped giving each another 500 on top of it.

I probably won't go back for a while but know that the next time I am there I am going to be looked after again because all the girls know me now.

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1437181]What to go to Thailand from KL for the weekend.

But the photos gallery's here are shit. One is loaded with pictures of ugly, fat and old nasty women. The other is loaded with nothing but a bunch of people talking- even though it is a photo gallery?

Is Bangkok a shit place to go now or are the photo gallery's just shit?

Should I go to Hong Kong instead?[/QUOTE]Bangkok is a great place for mongering; and the hotels are a better deal than in HK (though I do love HK.) Kaintuck's gallery appeals to certain appetites and has it's fans.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1437238]These things do happen and to suggest such occurrences are one-in-a-million is ridiculous. It might be more worthwhile trying to work out why it may happen to some people but not others. Personally I don't think it's down to my boyish good looks, I think it's down to the fact that I smile, have fun and get to know the girls, making it as little like a business transaction as possible.

To suggest that there is some kind of set of rules that applies to all girls, from all bars, to all men, of all types, with differing modus operandi, in all seasons, at all times of the night is naïve. There are many different factors to consider.[/QUOTE]+1.

Agreed that so much of it boils down to a "sanuk" attitude. My motto in the bars is "When I'm on holiday, everybody's on holiday." In other words, I'm there to have fun, and it's a whole lot more fun if they're having fun, too. Getting to know them, playing around, flirting, discussing their family, having a bite to eat, etc, seems to go a very long way to assuring a great session. As you said, making it as little like a business transaction as possible. I suspect a lot of guys don't get it.

Has anyone been able to get pictures of the BJ bar girls in action. If so which bar, who? I will be going back and want to take naughty pics for the photo thread of BJ experts. If you prefer to PM me it's fine. I've seen a few pics of girls standing or sitting outside, I want to take a pic of them with their mouth full (of me.)

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1437181]What to go to Thailand from KL for the weekend.

But the photos gallery's here are shit. One is loaded with pictures of ugly, fat and old nasty women. The other is loaded with nothing but a bunch of people talking- even though it is a photo gallery?

Should I go to Hong Kong instead?[/QUOTE]Yes; go to Hong Kong.

There are only ugly girls here.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1437440]Has anyone been able to get pictures of the BJ bar girls in action. If so which bar, who? I will be going back and want to take naughty pics for the photo thread of BJ experts. If you prefer to PM me it's fine. I've seen a few pics of girls standing or sitting outside, I want to take a pic of them with their mouth full (of me.)[/QUOTE]There have been tons of pictures of girls giving BJ's, whether they were gogo girls, NCP or bar girls is irrelevant. What's the big deal of a specific BJ bar girl giving head? Lips around a cock are lips around a cock, no matter where the girl works.

Do you want to see the thrill of a BJ in public? That is another story, then.

44 Million Baht Lottery Wins for two Pattaya Monk's.

A Monk residing at a South Pattaya Temple won 38 Million Baht on the Thai National Lottery on Sunday. Another Monk at the same Temple, who was ordained on Sunday won 6 Million Baht.

The Monks reside at the Tamsamakee Temple in South Pattaya and because of the large win, the monk who won the 38 Million Baht has disappeared and attempts at contacting him have been unsuccessful. The other Monks at the Temple are thought to know his location but are keeping quiet for now.

Pra Kajonwat purchased his lottery tickets the day before he was ordained as a monk on 15th June. On 16th June he was ordained and also found out about his lottery win. As soon as he leaves the Monkhood he intends to give money to his Mother so she can build a new house and he will also donate some of the money to local orphanages. [b]The Monk revealed to us that he has never seen his American father and would like to use some of the money to track him down and visit him in the United States. [/b]

The missing monk, who was ordained 8 months ago, is likely to be disciplined by the Chief Abbot of the Temple, should he return, as he purchased the lottery tickets after his ordination which is not permitted, according to other Monks we spoke with at the Temple.

[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/91780/44-million-baht-lottery-wins-pattaya-monks/[/url]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1437440]Has anyone been able to get pictures of the BJ bar girls in action. If so which bar, who? I will be going back and want to take naughty pics for the photo thread of BJ experts. If you prefer to PM me it's fine. I've seen a few pics of girls standing or sitting outside, I want to take a pic of them with their mouth full (of me.)[/QUOTE]BJ bars have a no photo policy but if you get the right girl and offer her a good tip she may be game. Also you could BF the girl and ask her if you can take pics.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1437545]Also you could BF the girl and ask her if you can take pics.[/QUOTE]That worked for me years ago at SOL

[QUOTE=Harold444;1437357]There are others who questions some of your claims, albeit it a polite way.Please stick to your guns. If you want to claim multiple Rainbow girls go 2 hours and then say it was one. What are we to believe.[/QUOTE]As a matter of interest, did you read my diary? Because if you did, surely you'd know that it was extremely honest. I didn't just write about the good things, I wrote about the bad, as otherwise what's the point? I don't write to show off, I write to try and provide the reader with accurate information about my experiences. In my recent diary I wrote about a 'condom malfunction', I wrote about a Pattaya girl crying after she wasn't allowed in to my room because she didn't have ID, I wrote about a Phnom Penh girl who only did missionary because she said she was feeling ill, I wrote about being over-charged in Siem Reap, I wrote about a lovely looking gogo girl in Pattaya downing the lady-drink I bought her and walking away within 30 seconds, I wrote about almost not being able to get a girl in Bangkok because of elections etc. A few years ago on the Philippines thread I wrote about an accident I had in which I tripped over, landed on my crown jewels and was out of action for a week! I write about what happens, whether good or bad.

So I assure you that when I write about a Shark or Rainbow girl staying for two hours / two pops, it happened. I don't boast or exaggerate, I just write about what happened whether good or bad.

It does make me smile though when people like you or Evil dismiss it as fantasy just because it never happens to them. Surely a better and more productive response would be to ask why sometimes it happens to others but not you. In my opinion it's not down to what a guy looks like or whether the girl is a wall-flower as you predictably suggested, it's down to your attitude and how you treat the girl. Whenever I walk out of a gogo bar, my choice of girl likes me.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1437401]Agreed that so much of it boils down to a "sanuk" attitude. My motto in the bars is "When I'm on holiday, everybody's on holiday." In other words, I'm there to have fun, and it's a whole lot more fun if they're having fun, too. Getting to know them, playing around, flirting, discussing their family, having a bite to eat, etc, seems to go a very long way to assuring a great session. As you said, making it as little like a business transaction as possible. I suspect a lot of guys don't get it.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I think one of the common misconceptions on this forum is that the same rules apply for all. They don't. The same girl will charge one customer differently to another and be prepared to stay longer with different customers too. Therefore the onus is on us, the customers, to make the girl WANT to come with us. Here's what I do when I call down a pretty girl from the stage of a gogo bar:

- first thing, I take care of my appearance. I always wear trousers, shoes and a shirt, sometimes a splash of aftershave too.

- when I call a girl down, I ask what her name is and buy her a drink straight away.

- chat to her. Ask where she is from. Ask about her family (Thai's love their family)

- hold her hand, tell her 'you very pretty' (even better if in Thai)

- have fun and be prepared to be silly. I. E dancing together in the seat.

- play little games, to make her as relaxed as possible (I. E I have blue eyes so I play 'stares' which is always a lot of fun).

- most importantly for the 'getting to know you' stage, don't talk money or make her feel like a prostitute. Make her feel special.

- if she's still a bit stiff, then either she's not the girl for you or she needs another drink / more time.

- normally by this point she will ask me if I would like to pay her bar-fine. If not, I will ask 'you like to go with me. 2000 short-time, tip if make me smile'.

- holds hands when leaving the bar and walking to your hotel.

- maintain the fun, friendly, relaxed mood when you get to your room. I. E a back massage.

- after the sex, get her phone number

I'd be very interested what tactics other forum users adopt but this usually works well for me.

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1437181]What to go to Thailand from KL for the weekend.

But the photos gallery's here are shit. One is loaded with pictures of ugly, fat and old nasty women. The other is loaded with nothing but a bunch of people talking- even though it is a photo gallery?

Should I go to Hong Kong instead?[/QUOTE]Timbuktu would be better for you.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1437440]Has anyone been able to get pictures of the BJ bar girls in action. If so which bar, who? I will be going back and want to take naughty pics for the photo thread of BJ experts. If you prefer to PM me it's fine. I've seen a few pics of girls standing or sitting outside, I want to take a pic of them with their mouth full (of me.)[/QUOTE]I know one girl on Soi 6 in Pattaya who allows action photos. PM me if you want her name and the bar where works. She doesn't care if the pics are posted on the Internet. Some girls don't mind photos per se, but are afraid they'll end up on a porn site.

Evil

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1437619]I'd be very interested what tactics other forum users adopt but this usually works well for me.[/QUOTE]Your posts sound like romance novels. Some girls like that shit but not as much as you think.

I treat them like dogs and they love it.

Of course, I'm the Cesar Millan of Thai girls so if you don't have the proper training you won't get he same results.