Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=MrHydePhd;1885596]I was in town (I live in SR) and was staying at Teahouse on 242. A block away is Massa, on 252. It's really nondescript on the outside, but there is a faded awning. Go up the stairs and there will be a door with "Massage" in big letters on it. They have a fishbowl of women to choose from, with numbers. Was quoted at $45 for boom-boom, but when I asked for yam-yam, she said it would be $80! What? Opted for the boom-boom, of course, and was not disappointed. Amazing body on a sweet Khmer girl. Perfect tits and breathtaking pussy. Would recommend.[/QUOTE]Honestly, when I read such prices I want to make a face palm.

In a country with a minimum monthly wage between 60 and 80 $ and a good salary 150-180 $, you pay for a day 45 $?

No need to be a cheep stake, but having some brain activity would help.

It is like going to a Macdonalds, and paying them the triple price for a burger, and in the end you even leave some money for tee.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1892765]Honestly, when I read such prices I want to make a face palm.

In a country with a minimum monthly wage between 60 and 80 $ and a good salary 150-180 $, you pay for a day 45 $?

No need to be a cheep stake, but having some brain activity would help.

It is like going to a Macdonalds, and paying them the triple price for a burger, and in the end you even leave some money for tee.[/QUOTE]I was there a couple of years ago and never paid more than $20.00 for ST. Some guys may be from countries that are expensive and hence overpaying the WGs. I used to $5.00 for a legit massage and no boom boom.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1892805]I was there a couple of years ago and never paid more than $20.00 for ST. Some guys may be from countries that are expensive and hence overpaying the WGs. I used to $5.00 for a legit massage and no boom boom.[/QUOTE]Its getting more expensive there as it is in your home country also. Back in 2010 girls had the most simplest Nokia phones. Now every girl, FL, bargirl, cashier, hair dresser, receptionist they all have Iphones. Yes they are getting more greedy.

Small rooms girls are renting (usually sharing with others) are still around 50 us per month. Gasoline is more expensive, but only few hundred rails more. Barang food is bit more expensive but girls only eat rice anyway. You (we) are paying their higher lifestyle.

[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1893053]Its getting more expensive there as it is in your home country also. Back in 2010 girls had the most simplest Nokia phones. Now every girl, FL, bargirl, cashier, hair dresser, receptionist they all have Iphones. Yes they are getting more greedy.

Small rooms girls are renting (usually sharing with others) are still around 50 us per month. Gasoline is more expensive, but only few hundred rails more. Barang food is bit more expensive but girls only eat rice anyway. You (we) are paying their higher lifestyle.[/QUOTE]Can you blame the girls for wanting a better lifestyle also despite selling their bodies many girls have standards and set a minimum they will go for. A lot can also depend on the attitude of the customer, a lot of girls are happy to drop their price for regular customers who don't treat them a merely sex objects but more of a friend especially if the girl thinks that they are possibly long term boyfriends.

[QUOTE=Riverstar;1893298]Can you blame the girls for wanting a better lifestyle also despite selling their bodies many girls have standards and set a minimum they will go for. A lot can also depend on the attitude of the customer, a lot of girls are happy to drop their price for regular customers who don't treat them a merely sex objects but more of a friend especially if the girl thinks that they are possibly long term boyfriends.[/QUOTE]Well yes you are right, I can't blame them for that, but I can blame those who pay such amount.

It starts to be more expensive not because they set a minimum standart for themself, but because more people go there and some of them pay 45 or 100 $.

It is just ridiculous, when yo go to a country where the majority of people lives on 1-2 $ per day, and you have to pay westerner price for sex.

Like I said, you don't buy a Hamburger from Macdonalds for 100 $ if it says that it costs only 5 $, so why would you do that to women?

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1893648]Well yes you are right, I can't blame them for that, but I can blame those who pay such amount.

It starts to be more expensive not because they set a minimum standart for themself, but because more people go there and some of them pay 45 or 100 $.

It is just ridiculous, when yo go to a country where the majority of people lives on 1-2 $ per day, and you have to pay westerner price for sex.

Like I said, you don't buy a Hamburger from Macdonalds for 100 $ if it says that it costs only 5 $, so why would you do that to women?[/QUOTE]So true, but if they do not come down with their price, what can you do? Go mongering during last 10 days of the month, you might have better luck when a lot of girls ran out of money an 30 dollar is better than nothing by the end of month when rent for room must be paid.

[QUOTE=Titanio;1894030]So true, but if they do not come down with their price, what can you do? Go mongering during last 10 days of the month, you might have better luck when a lot of girls ran out of money an 30 dollar is better than nothing by the end of month when rent for room must be paid.[/QUOTE]Simple, you just go look for other girls.

The majority of girls aren't top models there, by that I mean that the average girl you going to pick is not going to be a 10, but a 7 normally.

So you could for sure find another one in half an hour, with a lower price.

I can understand when people pay 100 $ for a 10 girl, which is not so easy to find, so yeah, in this case you are paying for quality.

But when you are going to a bar with averages, and most of them begin to demand "quality price" that is not normal.

I mean if you go to Korea, Hong Kong and etc, you can pick a 9-10 easily for that price, so what's the point to pay same money for lower quality if you can find cheaper?

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1893648]Well yes you are right, I can't blame them for that, but I can blame those who pay such amount.

It starts to be more expensive not because they set a minimum standart for themself, but because more people go there and some of them pay 45 or 100 $.

It is just ridiculous, when yo go to a country where the majority of people lives on 1-2 $ per day, and you have to pay westerner price for sex.

Like I said, you don't buy a Hamburger from Macdonalds for 100 $ if it says that it costs only 5 $, so why would you do that to women?[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more.

I have been saying that many times and got flamed by the same guys who justify themselves by paying more probably to satisfy their big ego and their small dick.

Cambodia was a paradise years ago when P4P was cheap.

I didn't care if the service was good or not when I was paying 3 or 5 $ for a shag with a girl with a firm body.

Nowadays I m sorry if a girl ask for 20 $ for a 20 mn shag I m not interested because I know I won't get satisfied anyway specially if it s the same girl than 10 years ago with 2 children now and stretchmarks all over.

Like you said if by increasing the service you would increase the quality of service it would be fine but it is usually the opposite.

It isn't NGO who fucked up Cambodia sex scene it s stupid mongers who agree to whatever girls say and act like pussy.

Men are not men anymore.

A girl doesn't decide how much I pay I do.

She doesn't like my price so what? I look for another one.

If every guy was doing like that the prices would have stayed low in Cambodia.

These days everybody who pays 50 $ or more a ST is a complete moron IMHO.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1893648]Well yes you are right, I can't blame them for that, but I can blame those who pay such amount.

It starts to be more expensive not because they set a minimum standart for themself, but because more people go there and some of them pay 45 or 100 $.

It is just ridiculous, when yo go to a country where the majority of people lives on 1-2 $ per day, and you have to pay westerner price for sex.

Like I said, you don't buy a Hamburger from Macdonalds for 100 $ if it says that it costs only 5 $, so why would you do that to women?[/QUOTE]Usually I talk a bit with the girl first. Buy a drink and a ladydrink. Then I ask if she would go with me. If she says yes (almost all do) I tell her what I want and what I would pay her. On my last trip to PP I asked 4 girls. All said yes and all accepted the amount as I offered.

From my report:

Day 1: Took a FL girl from Sorya Mall. Only 19 years old, no children. Sweet, totally GFE. LT $ 20.

Day 2: Took a massage on France Street (between what Prom and Japanese Bridge). She asked if I wanted extra. I wanted, but only in my room. She was off duty at 11 pm and came to my hotel. 28 years old, one baby but a good body. LT, $ 30.

Day 3: Went to bar in Street 104. Took a 21 year old girl from a bar late at night. Very nice, no children, perfect body. No BF, as the bar was closing. LT $ 40.

Day 4: Went to bar in Street 130. Took a 26 year old girl from Loco my last night alone. Very sweet girl and with a good body. BF $ 15. LT $ 40.

I had 4 days with beautiful women. No one refused to go with me. What more could a man ask for. A total of $ 155 plus drinks and a few lady drinks.

I will be in PP for the next 3 nights. PM me if you would care to meet and exchange experiences. Not that I have any experiences from here -yet. Cheers.

I just bought 4 100 MG viagra pills at a local gas station. No prescription needed. Price: 2. 10 USD. AMAZING. Vent to the fishbowl on 252'nd street last night. The massage was really crap. But the girl was cute and she got pretty wet. Damage 10 usd for the non-existing massage and 35 for the boom boom. She wanted 50 to begin with. Had a 5 dollar 1 hour massage today. So good to get into the cool aircon room. Massage was ok but not fantastic. She tried very hard to upsell a handjob for 30 but would not go lower than 20. So I only got the massage and the teasing associated with her upselling efforts. I read about the Sway Pak chicken farms just outside PP. Does anyone know if it is still possible to go. If so where is it exactly? Could someone please advice. Cheers.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1894254]Usually I talk a bit with the girl first. Buy a drink and a ladydrink. Then I ask if she would go with me. If she says yes (almost all do) I tell her what I want and what I would pay her. On my last trip to PP I asked 4 girls. All said yes and all accepted the amount as I offered.

From my report:

Day 1: Took a FL girl from Sorya Mall. Only 19 years old, no children. Sweet, totally GFE. LT $ 20.

Day 2: Took a massage on France Street (between what Prom and Japanese Bridge). She asked if I wanted extra. I wanted, but only in my room. She was off duty at 11 pm and came to my hotel. 28 years old, one baby but a good body. LT, $ 30.

Day 3: Went to bar in Street 104. Took a 21 year old girl from a bar late at night. Very nice, no children, perfect body. No BF, as the bar was closing. LT $ 40.

Day 4: Went to bar in Street 130. Took a 26 year old girl from Loco my last night alone. Very sweet girl and with a good body. BF $ 15. LT $ 40.

I had 4 days with beautiful women. No one refused to go with me. What more could a man ask for. A total of $ 155 plus drinks and a few lady drinks.[/QUOTE]Well a man could ask a discount on that price, like paying 75 $ instead of 155 for same girls and services.

The economy of Cambodia did't become suddenly wealthier over the last decade right?

So if women went with men for 10-20 $ previously and now start to ask for 40+$ then it is obviously not because they gained other alternatives thanks to better economy and salary, but because for some unknown reason visitors began to overpay them.

As a westerner you are not going to go broke just because you have to pay 20 $ more now, but that is not the problem I was talking about.

The problem is that in another 5 years, you will pay them 60 then 80 then 100 $, because the price will go up due the men who think with their balls and not their brain.

Let's be honest, somebody who goes to Asia usually goes there for the cheap sex and good looking women, the keyword here is "cheap".

So why for the universe, do you pay them 40 $?

The excuses ala "I wanted to feed their family, help the blah blah" don't work, for that you could just go to church and donate some money without having sex with them.

Since obviously the majority of us is not for the charity there, but are paying for the service, then why do you overpay for something when you can get it cheaper?

When you go to a Market you are not paying them the triple price for their bread, you are not paying the triple price for your barber.

But for some unknown reason, some men when they get to a poor country begin to trow money all other them around, destroying the scene for everyone and themselves in first place.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1896760]The economy of Cambodia did't become suddenly wealthier over the last decade right?[/QUOTE]It's become hugely wealthier. Prices are up for everything.

It's still possible to bottom-feed but let's face it, if you want a good girl in PP you're generally going to have to pay almost as much as you would in, say, Pattaya. Personally I still think it's worth it, but the days of really cheap SE Asian mongering are pretty much over.

[QUOTE=Betong;1896803]It's become hugely wealthier. Prices are up for everything.

It's still possible to bottom-feed but let's face it, if you want a good girl in PP you're generally going to have to pay almost as much as you would in, say, Pattaya. Personally I still think it's worth it, but the days of really cheap SE Asian mongering are pretty much over.[/QUOTE]Agree with you 100% mate-having personally been a very frequent traveller to Cambodia for the past ten years I can confirm that prices on most all goods have risen virtually in line with the developed western economies that the majority of us dirty mongers come from!

I would give about as much time and creedance to Soul Brothers post as I would to the yaba and ice riddled working girls that fall within his apparent budget of $10 a go, most likely Golden Sorya Mall level.

The talk of prices is a well trodden road that ultimately is a waste of time, as within reason, it's all subjective depending on individuals circumstances, be that financial, situational, experience and so on and so forth-the variables are great.

Ultimately, calling out people for an apparent overpayment of 10 or 20 bucks is just a complete waste of forum space.

Happy punting.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1892765]Honestly, when I read such prices I want to make a face palm.

In a country with a minimum monthly wage between 60 and 80 $ and a good salary 150-180 $, you pay for a day 45 $?

No need to be a cheep stake, but having some brain activity would help.

It is like going to a Macdonalds, and paying them the triple price for a burger, and in the end you even leave some money for tee.[/QUOTE]Here we go again!

Clue #1 this is not MacDonalds!

Clue #2 minimum wage has nothing to do with the price of poon!

Clue #3 inflation has nothing to do with the increasing price of poon!