Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Carrib;2858185]I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

[/QUOTE]The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.

I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

I haven't used [URL]seeking.com[/URL] on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Carrib;2858185]I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.[/QUOTE]I had one like that, luckily she had a job and no choice but to leave my place empty handed. I had another I met in lleras, I told her straight up I wasn't paying I just wanted to kick it with her, she said it was a slow night for her so she didn't mind. I did have to pay to get her phone fixed in the am though, but wasn't much LOL.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2858185]I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.[/QUOTE]I had something kind of sort of similar happen to me in Bogota back in August. I had a homegirl bring me a friend of hers (SF SG) to my hotel on cra 13 and Calle 22 near santa fe.

The deal was suppose to be 100 mil COP for BBFS. I also had to pay 20 mil exidente to the hotel to bring her to my room.

Anyways long story short we get in my room and she starts demanding the 100 mil pesos adelentado (up front) and I'm like "siempre pago después" And she says no and that she always charges up front and insists on the money. So then I start making sure she understood how the service was going to be because I know from experience that when you pay up front they often change the rules of the agreement and don't do what was agreed upon. So I asked her if she understood that the servicio was sin condóand and then she replies "tenemos que cuidarnos".

After hearing that in my mind I'm like nah ***** your getting the fuck out of my room your not getting a dime let alone 100 mil pesos. So I ask her politely in Spanish to leave, I'm like "sabes que no quiero el servicio, usted puede salir de mi pieza, porfa" and get this, the ***** refuses to fucking leave my room. Amazing. This makes me even more mad that she won't leave, and I'm a pretty big dude I'm like 230 lbs. So I literally pick the ***** up and throw her into the hall way and shut the door to my room behind me locking us both outside of the room. Then I start calling her pinche gonorrhea and hijueputa and all that shit why que me the asco why sal de mi hotel pinche Veneca, etc.

Then the hotel manager dude, whom I've known since 2018, comes and escorts her the rest of the way out to the street. And I explain what happened to the hotel dude how she wanted to charge me upfront and tried to change the terms of the agreement and then refused to leave after being asked politely to do so. And low and behold he gave me back my 20 mil I had paid for her exidente fee and told me I was in the right to ask her to leave.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2858230]The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.[/QUOTE]Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.

However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.

As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.

This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.

Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.

And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.

Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2858185]I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.[/QUOTE]Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2858230]The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.[/QUOTE]You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2858324]Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.[/QUOTE]

Ram that is good advice and I appreciate it, however I am sure i agree with “if u take a girl back to your place, you have to pay her” however to your point, I alway say never get into an argument with a Chica, so I will also pay something to get her ass to leave.

It was a huge amount and that was an additional fuck up on my part-in any case I have a few more days to try to talk to said security guard and explain why I gave him so much money. I can't remember the last time I had a problem with a Chica as I usually screen them well but this time I was caught off guard with a Chica I would normally never give the time of day, again my mistake. As for warning them that you never pay of front, what if she lies and then demand payment up front? The problem is that most of these Chicas understand that the majority of gringos fear the Colombian polce and oftentimes use that to their advantage.


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One last word about paying upfront, that sets a terrible precedent so please refrain from doing so, if a Chica demands payment upfront, you can show her you have the money to pay her and if she still refuses, show her ass the door. Hopefully you won't have to deal with the BS I encountered. She's lucky we weren't at a love motel, I would I simply paid the hotel and left her ass there. Some of you mongers have allowed these putas to take complete control of the mongering scene here in Medellin, basic and borderline ugly putas are asking 250 USD.

It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2858323]Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.

However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.

As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.

This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.

Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.

And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.

Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to briefly add this in hopes that it might help. Been to Colombia many times. I hate Cartagena due to the heat. Bogota is like a western city. Medellin however, wow how beautiful she is.

If you are looking to meet people, facebook is the best way. Just do a search of random people in medellin or Antiquola (spelling), and just message and friend people. I used to have a FB, and pretty much once you make one friend, they all start messaging you. This is the safest manner.

Club gusto sucks. Parque lleras is cool, but there is better spots. The mansion hotel is a good beginner spot from what I heard. Never went since I was connecting with people on Facebook.

One thing however, be careful with drugs. Its really popular down there, and really cheap. I haven't went back in 18 months. Last thing that kinda worried me was a guy from Southern CA getting drugged and killed by a chick he met on tinder. To everyone on this sub, Colombia is a poor country. So be mindful. Someone once gave me a few basic rules.

1. Be mindful. In Colombia, people will kill you for $50-$100 USD.

2. don't look at anyone wrong. You never know if that nerd is the nephew of the cartel boss.

3. Be aware of your surroundings.

4. Cops are crooks here. Don't carry shit with you since I have had many times cops stop me and pat me down.

I usually stayed in Poblado, at a nice airbnb. When booking an airbnb, contact the peopele via Airbnb and find their company on google. You can usually save up to 30% by not going through airbnb and instead booking through their company page.

Anyways, that's it for now. I have so much to share but am a little disorganized with my thoughts. If you're going to medellin, enjoy! Its a fucking beautiful place. Imagine a city in a jungle bowl. And the women, wow are they beautiful. I mean The Paisas, women from Medellin, they are a mix between european and latin. Light complexion, beautiful.

Hope to share more soon! For now, I got to start gettting ready for my Thailand trip!

[QUOTE=Carrib;2858185]I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.[/QUOTE]Gustos is a shit show. What are you doing there. It's a zombie apocalypse.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2858465]It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.[/QUOTE]In very simple terms, any one who pays upfront loses all their leverage with a Chica, and some of the more devious Chicas will renege on what was agreed to and even request additional monies to include what was originally agreed to after being paid.

And for many of the newbie mongers here with little to no experience in Colombia, and little to no Spanish speaking skills, they can get taken, especially when a Chica threatens to call the Police as than typically the monger becomes frightened.

There's just to many pitfalls in paying upfront, and I made this mistake around ten years ago when I was in Santa Fe in Bogota, my time was limited, and for whatever reason I made the mistake of paying upfront for a Chica, and I got burned.

The girl was nice enough and everything was fine in the room until I noticed lots of blood on the condom.

You talk about a boner killer, upon the sight of the blood I immediately ended the session, and the girl told me it was normal for her to work during her period.

And she was very blatant about it, not even trying to play dumb like she didn't know she was on her period which is typically what is said when Chicas pull this stunt.

So this is just one example of the risks in paying upfront.

As far as mongering in Centro, I can't ever remember a Chica asking me to pay her upfront, but we are talking chump change of typically $ 10 USD there and even less. LOL.

However, I do remember one incident in Centro where I agreed to 30 K with a Chica, and when we got into the room she said she wanted 40 K.

So I got up and said goodbye while she begged me to stay saying that she would accept what was originally agreed to.

So she made nothing, and I was out the cost of the room which is chump change and avoided what would not of been a good session after the drama.

I think everyone here would agree that avoiding a "bad session" is paramount.

So if I think a bad session may be in the works when I'm with a Chica, I end the session and move on.

[QUOTE=Moto1452;2858236]I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

I haven't used [URL]seeking.com[/URL] on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Seeking doesn't want to take my credit card.

I tried this tinder thing. With platinum. Didn't get any matches. Maybe I'll wait a day.

I did see a few cams girls.

I know on that. These are cam girls that didn't want to give me their contact info so we could meet up. I also saw a few girls from seeking on tinder.

I probably don't get any matches because these girls don't think I'm foreigner. I look Hispanic.

Tried looking for a girls on mileroticos. None of the girls are replying. It's seems like they treat this as a job. Monday to Friday 10 to 6 pm. No overtime.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2858364]You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".[/QUOTE]Crazy lmao. Ok will say that yes. There have been times where I have paid up front and got bad service. Once from a girl who used to do lleras for 250 k then moved to gustos recently and now charges at least 150 usd. I gave her 400 thinking I was being nice because I know her from before she did gustos. She took the money and refused to do another until I have her 50 usd more. I was like gtfo. Did try to take the money back because I don't want problems / it's too much of. A Hassle. The other time was a entro girl I met at lleras. Payed her when we got to my place in hindsight she was ugly af. She started begging for beers and I bought them for her. She wouldn't listen when I would tell her what to do. Wanted to do it her own way. I'm like just gtfo lmao.

Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.

I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2858561]
I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.[/QUOTE]I have another way to deal with this. If she 'insists' on being paid up front (and you don't like the chances of that working out) OR is changing the agreement and you just want her gone, you do this.

Pretend to go look for the money she wants, then pretend that you don't have enough or any at all (your choice). Tell her that you really thought you had the cash, but that you must have lost it or got pick pocketed, or some other excuse. Tell her she can follow you to an ATM to get the cash. You must do this with a very friendly and believable face. Tell her that you can understand why she'd want money up front, that you too have heard of men who try to cheat girls.

Once you are outside the Hotel / Room, give her taxi money ONLY and say 'adios chica'.