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[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2699213]It's a....[/QUOTE]Just a message of appreciation. I have enjoyed reading your blogging here, and many of the links you have been sharing have been extremely insightful. So much so, that I'm actually ok with Comrade Morales deranged ravings, since it prompts another superb rebuttal from yourself with good sources and reading materials.
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2699213]It's about 60 km f.[/QUOTE]Azovstal is over.
Moscow, May 20. / TASS /. [URL]https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14689499[/URL].
"Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the completion of the operation and the complete liberation of the Azovstal plant and Mariupol from Ukrainian militants.
This was announced on Friday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Major General Igor Konashenkov. "On the completion of the operation and the complete liberation of the plant and the city of Mariupol from Ukrainian militants, Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin," Konashenkov said. According to him, the territory of the plant, where a group of Ukrainian militants of the Nazi formation "Azov" has been blocked since April 21, has been completely liberated.
More than 500 militants from the factory as part of the last group surrendered on Friday. "Today, May 20, the last group of 531 militants surrendered," Konashenkov said.
"The so-called "commander" of the Nazis" Azov "because of the hatred of the Mariupol residents and the desire of the townspeople to punish him for numerous atrocities, was taken out of the territory of the plant in a special armored car," the Russian Defense Ministry said.
According to Konashenkov, the underground facilities of the enterprise, in which the militants hid, came under the full control of the RF Armed Forces.
"In total, since May 16 of this year, during the operation, 2,439 Azov Nazis and servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, blocked on the territory of the plant, laid down their arms and surrendered," said a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry."
Now, the Ukronazis can get back to winning the war are finishing off the rebellion.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2698724]America has no culture, bar song and dance, Silicone Valley, Johnny Depp and snorting coke. The major sources of Western culture are all in Western Europe. Yours is the culture of Gladiator, blood and dildoes.
.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. America has no culture because it is beyond that. It is an idea. Let's look at how culture is defined.
Culture: the arts, customs, lifestyles, background, and habits that characterize a particular society or nation.
- The US is a melting pot of different customs, backgrounds, etc. Nothing clearly sticks out as out 'culture' at this point unless you can consider consumerism, grilling, solo cup keggers, and small town America Football Friday nights a culture (actually the last two are unique!).
I suggest a better way to characterize America (I. E. The US), is as an idea or ethos. Let's look at that definition.
Ethos: the character or fundamental values of a person, people, culture, or movement.
- This has more resonance. When immigrants think of America, they think of opportunity, which is core to our ethos. The American Dream is the national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (democracy, rights, liberty, individualism, entrepreneurship, opportunity and equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, as well as an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers (or less than other countries at any rate).
- Now, the US is FAR, FAR from perfect, but if you are a hard worker and want a leveler playing ground than virtually any other place than the world you should come here.
-Chicago.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2699027]Your collective comments are not worth reading because you are American and, as you show, ignorant and you think your armed might makes you right.
On the positive side, the surrender of your Nazis in Mariupol continues. A surrender not an evacuation as your fake media call it. I'd ask you to enjoy the Cannes film festival but that idiot Zelensky is all over it, trying to fry European brains to make them as mushy as what passes for American [/QUOTE]On another positive side, the Russian movie "Tchaykovsky's wife" will compete for the Palm the'or at Cannes.
Looks like some cracks in the NATO.
You were going well until you fucked up. Gallia in tres pars divisus est, Gaul is divided into three parts and so should your post have been.
1. USA has no culture beyond song and dance trash and Epstein.
2. America is not an idea. Americans have no ideas beyond a hamburger (Think Hamburg). I will grant you "small town America Football Friday nights a culture" but that now is mostly Matt Damon Hollywood shit.
3. The American dream. Fuck that shit. Let's trade nukes.
Of all the very many Americans I have met and worked with, I have respect for less than 1% of them and I am far from unique in that. Of that 1%, I have a lot of respect for them. But the perverts who post pics of their cum on the Philippines board, give me a break.
I've just spent a less than enjoyable month in Northern Finland, salmon fishing on the Teno River. And sharing my experiences with wolverines and brown bears made my holiday less than perfect (though the salmon were perfect, God bless Arctic warfare). Let's just say Finnish hospitals are expensive; be insured. Another week or so and I should be recovered. In the meantime, God Bles Russia.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2699301]I agree with you. America has no culture because it is beyond that. It is an idea. Let's look at how culture is defined.
Culture: the arts, customs, lifestyles, background, and habits that characterize a particular society or nation.
- The US is a melting pot of different customs, backgrounds, etc. Nothing clearly sticks out as out 'culture' at this point unless you can consider consumerism, grilling, solo cup keggers, and small town America Football Friday nights a culture (actually the last two are unique!).
I suggest a better way to characterize America (I. E. The US), is as an idea or ethos. Let's look at that definition.
Ethos: the character or fundamental values of a person, people, culture, or movement.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2699259]Americans are the biggest terrorists on the planet. American soldiers have committed unspeakable crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, raping children, killing entire families. The invasion of Iraq was an actual war crime, a crime against the peace, built on a tissue of lies, as was the destruction of Yugoslavia, Syria, Libya, etc etc either directly or through their puppets. You only have to read the be s here or in a few of the other stupid shit threads.
As regards the liberation of Mariupol, compare it to how the American vermin flattened Fallujah and Raqqa. Americans are the new Hitler's Willing Executioners. Ukraine is a mess because of America and Victoria Fuck the EU Nuland.[/QUOTE]Thanks to your suck-buddy Putin, American troops are going to be all over Europe soon, even more (tens and maybe hundreds of thousands) than they already are. Also, with the Euro-Dollar exchange rate nearly at parity, they'll be visiting FKKs, and massage places, and brothels, and hanging out with every kind of working girl in a major way. And business owners, desperate for a share of those American dollars, will be opening up Coca Cola and burger joints like crazy!
Feel free to share your neighborhood Post Code and I'll make sure to pass along an expedited request for American-style establishments in your area.
And, and, and, you know what's abso-fucking-lutely hilarious? None of this would have happened except for Russia's imbecilic invasion of Ukraine. Next time you speak to Little Vlad, be sure to give him my thanks for guaranteeing decades of NATO and American dominance! And, when your poor, apoplectic self is searching for someone to blame, just look toward those red brick towers in the East.
Barbarians at the gate! ROTFLMAO!
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2699301]I agree with you. America has no culture because it is beyond that. It is an idea. Let's look at how culture is defined.
I suggest a better way to characterize America (I. E. The US), is as an idea or ethos. Let's look at that definition..[/QUOTE]"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to decadence without the usual interval of civilization."
- G. Clemenceau (I. E. Some Frenchman).
The USA, "it is beyond that".
You're a fucking moron. I was on a suburban train some weeks ago, three loud mouthed Americans and me in my turf, coming from a place where there had been quite a few Americans idling about. When thinking about World War 4, think about those scenarios. In the mean time, get back to shooting up schools, synagogues, mosques and churches. It is what you hamburgers do best.
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2699337] Typical American rant ![/QUOTE]Golfinho must not be American. He has read a book.
I hope your Nazi pals from Mariupol enjoy Siberia. Plenty of room for more.
Any ideas on this? Is it just another American ploy to rip off the world? Any connections with America's captured bio labs in Ukraine? Is it one of the side effects of the Covid jabs? The gay guys coming down with it would be vulnerable as they inject themselves with all kinds of crap. It seems Bill Gates won't just FKK off. A real James Bond villain.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2699317].........USA has no culture beyond song and dance trash[/QUOTE]You mean like the Russian symphony and ballet that they copied from Western Europe.
I like to think American movies are a big deal. When I travel, locals like to talk about American movies.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2699357]"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to decadence without the usual interval of civilization."
- G. Clemenceau (I. E. Some Frenchman).
The USA, "it is beyond that".[/QUOTE]"The greatness of America lies not in being more enlightened than any other nation, but rather in her ability to repair her faults."
- A. Tocqueville (some Frenchman).
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2699458]Putin is a fucking moron, but I can't resist being his suck-buddy![/QUOTE]As Russia's downward spiral accelerates, Siberia is likely to end up as the luxury vacation destination for former oligarchs. And, as they slurp their thin gruel of potatoes and beets, they'll be dreaming about American hamburgers and wishing they could have one.
Anti-American rhetoric is as temporary as the morning fog. Once it's dissipated by the sun, the real world is clearly seen. And there is no real-world scenario in which Russia wins. Only various scenarios of defeat which range from embarrassment and temporary disruption to utter collapse and disintegration. And, no matter how the details of defeat play out, Putin will almost certainly be blamed and excoriated by the Russians themselves. Nothing worse than a "strong man" dictator who turns out to be a weak loser.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2699317]Of all the very many Americans I have met and worked with, I have respect for less than 1% of them and I am far from unique in that.[/QUOTE]The worldwide audience of people who give a shit about the above statement is numbered at one. Of course, when you look at your bilious image in a mirror, then maybe you can fool yourself into thinking that two people give a shit. But hey, that's a 100% increase, right?
[QUOTE] In the meantime, God Bles Russia.[/QUOTE]This last statement says it all, doesn't it? It fully reveals you as a total, and completely pathetic, fascist-loving, Z-idolizing, LilliPutin-sycophant. Even a worm has more dignity.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2699300]Azovstal is over.
Moscow, May 20. / TASS /. [URL]https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14689499[/URL].
"Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the completion of the operation and the complete liberation of the Azovstal plant and Mariupol from Ukrainian militants.
This was announced on Friday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Major General Igor Konashenkov. "On the completion of the operation and the complete liberation of the plant and the city of Mariupol from Ukrainian militants, Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin," Konashenkov said. According to him, the territory of the plant, where a group of Ukrainian militants of the Nazi formation "Azov" has been blocked since April 21, has been completely liberated.
More than 500 militants from the factory as part of the last group surrendered on Friday. "Today, May 20, the last group of 531 militants surrendered," Konashenkov said.
"The so-called "commander" of the Nazis" Azov "because of the hatred of the Mariupol residents and the desire of the townspeople to punish him for numerous atrocities, was taken out of the territory of the plant in a special armored car," the Russian Defense Ministry said.
According to Konashenkov, the underground facilities of the enterprise, in which the militants hid, came under the full control of the RF Armed Forces.
"In total, since May 16 of this year, during the operation, 2,439 Azov Nazis and servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, blocked on the territory of the plant, laid down their arms and surrendered," said a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry."
Now, the Ukronazis can get back to winning the war are finishing off the rebellion.[/QUOTE]By pointing out Mariupol's proximity to Russia, and the fact that it's taken nearly 3 months to overcome Ukrainian resistance, the clear conclusion is that any portrayal of it as a notable Russian "victory" is ludicrous.
And, at the time of my earlier post, there were conflicting reports as to whether all of the Ukrainian forces has surrendered or left. Please forgive me if I find your reference to an exclusively Russian source as less than persuasive. I prefer to wait for third-party confirmation, or the passage of a sufficient amount of time, as I never base any conclusion on official reports by either side.
But, if Russian sources are good enough for you, why not just declare the successful completion of the glorious "special operation" and we can all go back to our regular lives? I'm sure, if you look hard enough, you can find a Tass article to that effect.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
[URL]https://blogs.berkeley.edu/2022/05/19/open-letter-to-noam-chomsky-and-other-like-minded-intellectuals-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/[/URL]
See the Open Letter for full details, but here are the main points, or patterns, addressed:
Pattern #1: Denying Ukraine's sovereign integrity.
Pattern #2: Treating Ukraine as an American pawn on a geo-political chessboard.
Pattern #3. Suggesting that Russia was threatened by NATO.
Pattern #4. Stating that the USA Isn't any better than Russia.
Pattern #5. Whitewashing Putin's goals for invading Ukraine.
Pattern #6. Assuming that Putin is interested in a diplomatic solution.
Pattern #7. Advocating that yielding to Russian demands is the way to avert the nuclear war.
A thoughtful, respectful, and civil discussion and rebuttal. Something that's sadly lacking in many circles.
P.S. The pro-Russia characterization of Chomsky, et al, is mine alone, not the article's authors.