Moscow

"If Moscow is The capital of greed, then why on most American sites girls (ordinary-looking) ask 400$ per hour and 1500$ overnight? Dinner in a restaurant - 800$."

Moscow still is the capital of greed, but I wasnt refering to the sex trade in general. In America and England sex is totally overpriced because both of these countries are sexually repressed, at least in terms of prostitution. This sexual repression overvalues sex and pussy and women and agencies take advantage of that fact. Its also one of the reasons the girls at Night Flight love American and English businessmen who happily pay $500 for sex with a grade B blonde with the excuse that "back home this woulda cost me $700!" So rather than thinking they hopelessly overpaid by $300, they think they saved $200... :)

If prostitutes were so freely available at normal prices in the US, UK or even Italy for that matter, there wouldnt be any need for people from these countries to spend $1000s travelling around the world for pussy.

As for me, mid-level Moscow prices ($200) are already almost above what I am willing to pay. Its not a question of being able to pay, its a question both of sense and pride. Paying $500 for sex would make me feel used and like a fool... I know that some people think paying $500 for sex makes them feel powerful and strong... maybe I'd feel the same if I was a millionaire and didnt actually have to earn my money. I suppose worrying about the cost of sex is in violation with the Russian mentality that money is God and God is money, but these concerns are also an expression of my reality and the reality of most of my ISG brethren... :) Its simply a fact of life that for great cheap pro sex, the "good old days" in Moscow are long long gone. Great sex with pros is still out there, but harder to find and more expensive every day. The $100 overnighter with a fresh cutie from Tomsk just doesnt happen anymore, but we all know that and there is no point bitching about it.

By the way, I just had some of the best pro sex I have ever had in Odessa, 2 guys banging a really great chick over the course of 2+ hours for $150... anal, swallowing, BBBJ, DFK.. truly an all included holiday package. Secretary on her "lunchbreak" earning some extra cash. That's the reality I prefer.

As for Moscow being the most expensive city, as I said before these polls are based on economic factors that most people dont even consider, such as real estate prices,. cost of office space etc. In real terms Moscow is on the same price level as any normal European capital... fine for us, but too expensive for much of the Zhiguli-driving and metro-riding Moscow population.

And to supplement what Big Bro just wrote, I have also always said the best part about Moscow is the mix, there is much sex available there for the taking that doesnt cost anything... but as a "pure" sex destination, Moscow is "price-intensive"...

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]See what happens when you're too skanky?

Ok, well it seems you truly do have some circumstantial extenuations
with the Piper's pipe, perhaps your "attack" would be better served
with penicillin.[/QUOTE]Huh? .

This time I am coming with my Moldavian girlfriend to beloved Moscow. Luckily, she loves strip clubs and she is bisexual. I’ll be there for sinful days and nights.

Who cares whether Moscow is the most expensive city or not…

I have always enjoyed in every single visit. I am not after $400 and up 9-10/10 model type girls; $200-300 GFE type/beautiful girls and/or girl next-door type 24-35 years old women always attract me.

Hanging out at NF is entertaining but it’s nonsense to pay $400-450 for 2 hours. Most mongers are too lazy or afraid to explore the splendid Moscow nights. Live music clubs/bars are the unexpected one-night long freebie action spots.

Booze, attracted women, delicious sea food (lobster, crap, tiger shrimps and sea horse), cheap sushi, head blowing kalyans, smoking exotic tobaccos with churchwardens, enjoying the Cubans while watching the sunset at City Space in Swiss Hotel, gambling and awesome nightlife…plus crazy Georgian and Gipsy drivers and road bugs jigulis… what else do I need…::))

Lovely, Helena,

Any news from your new web site? Love the black corset....You look yummier...::)))

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]

Lovely, Helena,

Any news from your new web site? Love the black corset....You look yummier...::)))[/QUOTE]



Yes, Big Bro, good news. Site is ready. Tomorrow will search hosting ;).

Fellow mongers! I will be in Moscow in 1.5 weeks on business for a week. 1 day in Lipetsk, Cherepovets. I speak the language, but haven't been in the motherland for a long time. Business brings me back.....

1) Staying in Hotel UKRAINA on the business floor. Is it girl friendly? What kind of girls (quality/prices) will I find downstairs in the bar/lobby? Don't have much time to go out, but will if I have too.

2) What are the good massage places to relax after a long flight, where I can get a good BJ at the end (preferably bare)

3) Do any of you, have phone #'s of the tried girls that you can recommed please? I don't trust some of the pics on the web-sites - some of them are too good to be true. And if they are true - too expensive

4) My budget is $100-$150 2-3hrs max - don't have time for all nighters (gotta work in the morning). Willing to pay $250 for a good treesome. Love tall girls. Want to party every night!!!

Any help will be appreciated!
Spasibo

Kosmos

It's certainly bad for the hobby but might not be a bad thing for freebie hunting. The high cost of living will deter casual tourists from visiting. Moscow won't become another another Prague, the barrier of entry is high in Moskva. We will not see college students going to Moscow for spring break. They can't afford it.

The Hotel Ukraina is girl friendly. There are the same half a dozen or so girls who arrive at the hotel bar every evening. The first shows up around 9pm and most are there by 11pm. They can easily be recognized. In my opinion, they are on a scale of about a 7, by Russian standards (we mongers have high standards here, don't we?). You have to go up to them and make conversation because they are instructed not to bother the hotel guests who don't show interest. In one amusing display, I listened to one of the girls annoyingly play her cellphone ringtones for 15 minutes in an attempt to draw attention. I do not know the prices of the bar girls there, sorry.

The security guards are everwhere, if you call that security. Except for your initial check-in with your luggage, you'll never get stopped again to go thru their metal detector even if you are carrying some large bags. The guards will also not stop a girl with you (at least that is my experience which I tested 4 or 5 times this month) even if they see her with you but just look you over as you walk by to size you up for trouble. So have your phone numbers handy when you arrive!

Enjoy your stay in Moscow, Kosmos!

[QUOTE=Kosmos]
1) Staying in Hotel UKRAINA on the business floor. Is it girl friendly? What kind of girls (quality/prices) will I find downstairs in the bar/lobby? Don't have much time to go out, but will if I have too.
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Ukraina is quite friendly. In the day time noone asks question, in the night girls must register in your room. Going out with a guest card (which is given to a girl after registration) is no problem. I heard from clients that girls from downstairs go for 50-70$.

Last time I paid $45 from Sheremotova II to Kolomenskaya....

Any updates for taxi fares?

I never take official taxi in MOCKBA, but I have some experience with "typical" taxi
At any location and at any times, you can stop a car by staying on the side of the street and pointing your right hand finger down to the road, then a lot of cars should stop nearby.

I you know to speak a little bit Russian it will help you to explain where you are going to and to bargain.

Unofficial rates are following : 200 RUB with each 30 mn within first ring a little less expensive outside.

Typically you will pay 100-150 RUB to go from Orlyonok hotel (located nearby MOSCKBA University) to city center at day time and 150-200 RUB at night to come back to same hotel from KURSKAYA station (CF)

If the driver is driving a typical "old" Russian car and going to the same direction as you, you can expect to pay 50-100 RUB instead of 100-150 RUB.

Do not hesitate to take a typical Russian car (LADA, JIGOULI, GAZ Volga,...) this will be an unforgettable experience, but do not take a car at night when there are two people in front seats or if the driver is looking too much a "brown" guy face
(Chechen..).

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]Last time I paid $45 from Sheremotova II to Kolomenskaya....

Any updates for taxi fares?[/QUOTE]



Airport - Center of Moscow - 1300Rub (about 50$) plus may be some extra fee (reasonable) from Center to Kolomenskaya. Tel.: 940-88-88. I just don't know if they speak English.

There are so many offers for airport transfers in Moscow, but I think for not russian speaking people [url]www.gotoru.com[/url] is an attractive provider. I used it already several times and there have been never any problems, it has been always reliable. Prices: Rus Car RUB 1080, Western Car RUB 1170, Western "Business" Car RUB 1410

[QUOTE=Scoubidou]
At any location and at any times, you can stop a car by staying on the side of the street and pointing your right hand finger down to the road, then a lot of cars should stop nearby.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I did that. I was heading down the road, not all that far ... Leninski Prospekt, except that I said Leninskaya, since all I know of Russki is pazhalsta and spasiba and three or four other obvious words.

I wrote the number on a piece of paper. 300 rubles. He heads across the river. Oh shit, I think. This guy is taking me out to God-knows-where. And we have one of those I-don't-speak hand-waving conversations.

Big U-turn, back across the river. It was a short ride to my destination and I think he will enjoy the overpayment.

I now feel very worldly. :-)

[QUOTE=Helena Moscow]Airport - Center of Moscow - 1300Rub (about 50$) plus may be some extra fee (reasonable) from Center to Kolomenskaya. Tel.: 940-88-88. I just don't know if they speak English.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.waytorussia.net/Moscow/ArrivalDeparture.html[/url]

"Sheremetyevo - Moscow by Bus. If you're on a budget or want a real Russian experience, take a bus. Note, that the buses operate only from 5.40 until 24.00. If you arrive later than 23.00 your only option is a taxi. You can just walk outside of the airport (ground floor, right wing exit) and in front of you there will be a bus stand. There are either buses or shuttles-marshrutkas. They work from 6.00 until 22:00 - 23:00 and go to the nearest metro stations 'Rechnoy Vokzal' (green line, north) or 'Planernaya' (violet line, north-west) and cost from 5 R (for buses) to 25 R = $1 (for shuttles). It will take around 30 minutes to get to the metro."

I did this. 5 rubles for the bus, 15 for the Metro, and walk to the hotel. I would not do it in the dark. And the guys outside the airport are really eager to put you in a cab. It is good to know how to read "rechnoy voksal" in Cyrillic.

Of course thre are lots of gipsy taxis everywhere, there are no dangers, but from the airport they all know that you have some money with you. Usually there is no risk but some robbed guys ended to the Police Station and I red on them in the papers.

By the way I usually use Intourist service for transfers. They can be booked by e-mail, and they speak most languages of the world (English, German, Spanish, Italian, French, etc). You will even get invoice.

When you arrive you have to exit the baggage claim and then go to the centre of the arrival hall. You will find a booth. Where you get car and driver.

The price for Moscow centre is approx. standard 48 USD from the airport to the city and 40 USD the referse (in the first case they have to wait you).

But you can't get the service "on spot" you have to book it, is fast and reliable. Always on time.

IT