Moscow

We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2246967]We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?[/QUOTE]If the strip club does not have a dress code, then you are in when the brand of your clothes is one of the top brands and style is smart casual. The cost does not matter because top brands are not cheap, the brand and style does. This is Russia.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2246967]We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?[/QUOTE]You don't need a sport coat or anything. But I recommend shoes not sneakers, nice shirt with collar and neat dark jeans and you should be fine. Had no problem attired like that. Recommend Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse for FS. Golden Girls for optics and lap dancing.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2246837]Oh shit. That's not good news.[/QUOTE]I used a translator and asked in Russian, English please.

They both hung up.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2247247]You don't need a sport coat or anything. But I recommend shoes not sneakers, nice shirt with collar and neat dark jeans and you should be fine. Had no problem attired like that. Recommend Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse for FS. Golden Girls for optics and lap dancing.[/QUOTE]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000.

We go in, and I'm instantly disappointed after seeing them, that didn't help matters any.

So we look around, a few gazelles walked by, I'm thinking OK maybe we will find something here?

But when they come by to talk, a few have a couple words of English.

But I don't like them up close, even though the bodies were 10+.

I like very thin.

It was very dark in PH but even so I could see most of these girls are pushing mid 30's and higher.

And to make matters worse not very hot, if I saw any hot ones I would do her with the perfect body and face even if she was 35.

But I would say my best friend at home might like a few, the very tall big ass and fake tits, high BMI girls.

I don't like that, I don't want that for free, as a matter of fact you can't pay me to waste a bullet on them.

Prices were the final nail in the coffin, I would like to know if these are prices for English speaking tourists? Hahaaa.

18000 for the girl, 6000 for the room.

We need to try somewhere else maybe Nightflight tonite or Monday?

I really think they need to get rid of the girls at entry, they were incredible.

That just makes the ones inside that much more unappetizing.

There were 4-5 of them each one a 9 or 10, extremely hot!

This place is very posh, I don't really like that in a brothel.

They are trying to set a tone, and overcharge as a result.

If you can pack the girls at entry inside I'm guessing that works.

For a Saturday I would say I would have to say I was underwhelmed.

And I'm guessing I'm not the only one, the place was pretty dead.

If a sc is dead on a Saturday that's not a good sign.

Mongers are somewhere else, where?

Jonathan Pine wrote a great post about we are all the super hot WGs in Russia?

I hope I can find it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.[/QUOTE]MDS,

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. Not to make excuses, but weekends are not the best in these places. Guys with money are with their families in their country houses or at least in the suburbs. Monday through Thursday definitely better. PH, The LOFT, Angles and Aurora 911 are all part of the same group. If you don't like the girls in one place, ask for the manager (who probably speaks English) and tell him you want to see a different club. They will send you by car to one of the other places and you should not have to pay the entrance again. Remember, these are not FKK's. Technically they are strip clubs so you can overtly come in the front door and treat them like hookers. If you do, the girls will scatter. [URL]http://clubangels.ru/about/bonus/[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000.

We go in, and I'm instantly disappointed after seeing them, that didn't help matters any.

So we look around, a few gazelles walked by, I'm thinking OK maybe we will find something here?

But when they come by to talk, a few have a couple words of English.

But I don't like them up close, even though the bodies were 10+.

I like very thin.

It was very dark in PH but even so I could see most of these girls are pushing mid 30's and higher.

And to make matters worse not very hot, if I saw any hot ones I would do her with the perfect body and face even if she was 35.

But I would say my best friend at home might like a few, the very tall big ass and fake tits, high BMI girls.

I don't like that, I don't want that for free, as a matter of fact you can't pay me to waste a bullet on them.

Prices were the final nail in the coffin, I would like to know if these are prices for English speaking tourists? Hahaaa.

18000 for the girl, 6000 for the room.

We need to try somewhere else maybe Nightflight tonite or Monday?

I really think they need to get rid of the girls at entry, they were incredible.

That just makes the ones inside that much more unappetizing.

There were 4-5 of them each one a 9 or 10, extremely hot!

This place is very posh, I don't really like that in a brothel.

They are trying to set a tone, and overcharge as a result.

If you can pack the girls at entry inside I'm guessing that works.

For a Saturday I would say I would have to say I was underwhelmed.

And I'm guessing I'm not the only one, the place was pretty dead.

If a sc is dead on a Saturday that's not a good sign.

Mongers are somewhere else, where?

Jonathan Pine wrote a great post about we are all the super hot WGs in Russia?

I hope I can find it.[/QUOTE]As others have written often midweek is better for these places because they cater to businessmen. Before I forget, if you didn't like Penthouse then avoid NightFlight. It is nothing like on the web. Very dark and more meager selection. You should try Aurora or Angels. More "in" than Penthouse.

But I think something is wrong with your approach maybe too eager or direct? My experience (during the week, a year ago) was the hostesses greeted me. Showed me in. I bought a table for like $50 I think. So maybe that gets the ball rolling. The hostess specifically said all the girls are available for take out, even her. (And she spoke great English). I ended up taking two bar maids early twenties if that. They were 6000 bar fine each and 8000 a girl. So 28000 for both of them. Had a great time!

Suggest you settle in and get to know the place before discussing a room. I enjoyed a good two plus hours before taking a room each night. The dancers will come around and do a very brief lap dance. But you can feel their tits if I want. Standard tip was 200 (no misprint) so you can sample quite a few (price may be higher now). Then pick your poison, ask her rate and off you go!

Personally I really enjoyed it. Maybe Aurora or Angels for you.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2230488]Dude, I should have checked your profile. I thought you were the average guy who's done one or two spots, but clearly you have quite a lot of depth. Definitely check out Moscow. It is great fun and it's always a blast to discover something new. The strip club with onsite rooms is indeed a great format. You will have no shortage of fun if you have the coin for it. Avoid Rasputin's. Stick to Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse.[/QUOTE]Please check.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2248282]As others have written often midweek is better for these places because they cater to businessmen. Before I forget, if you didn't like Penthouse then avoid NightFlight. It is nothing like on the web. Very dark and more meager selection. You should try Aurora or Angels. More "in" than Penthouse.

But I think something is wrong with your approach maybe too eager or direct? My experience (during the week, a year ago) was the hostesses greeted me. Showed me in. I bought a table for like $50 I think. So maybe that gets the ball rolling. The hostess specifically said all the girls are available for take out, even her. (And she spoke great English). I ended up taking two bar maids early twenties if that. They were 6000 bar fine each and 8000 a girl. So 28000 for both of them. Had a great time!

Suggest you settle in and get to know the place before discussing a room. I enjoyed a good two plus hours before taking a room each night. The dancers will come around and do a very brief lap dance. But you can feel their tits if I want. Standard tip was 200 (no misprint) so you can sample quite a few (price may be higher now). Then pick your poison, ask her rate and off you go!

Personally I really enjoyed it. Maybe Aurora or Angels for you.[/QUOTE]On my last trip I hung out at Duran Bar a lot, with great success. Any other recommendations for Clubs and Bars, I will be there next weekend. Thank you for the advice.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000..[/QUOTE]How high end sponsorship and kept women work and where the perfect 10's are.

Read Peter Pomerantsev's book "Nothing is real anything is possible". There is a whole chapter devoted to this phenomenon in Moscow.

Maybe some of you veteran ex-pats based in Moscow can figure out from the clues in the book where to look for these women.

I've also seen a couple of girls in Aeroflot business class lounge at SVO, waiting for their flight to Europe. Looking very expensively maintained. Saw their platinum cards. One of their perks from being on the payroll of very rich men.

They were there without their sponsors and looked rather lonely, and I didn't get the impression that it was because the sponsors weren't there. My first thought when I saw these girls was wow these girls are hot, and that they're out of my league.

But strangely one of the girls came on to me, quite hard, her voice just screams that she's so horny and could explode any second. She invited me to join them at their table at the lounge. I knew in their minds I was probably their age, but I know I'm way older.

It's just in Russia people often mistake me for "molodoi chelovek". These girls are stunning but still not perfects 10, because if there were then their sponsors would have their own jets.

I also saw a few times the sponsors and "sodershanka" meaning kept woman traveling together, also at the Aeroflot business class lounge in SVO and also in the business class cabins flying in and out of Russia. It's easy to spot them. The girls would be very tall and slim, the men would usually be much older, short and very fat and sloppily dressed but no doubt expensive.

Usually the top several buttons of their shirts are undone, because they're too fat and maybe it's considered "chic". They'd also be gorging on the free food and drinks in the lounge and not paying much attention to their "sodershaka" because they know the girls are already paid for.

Again, these girls don't look particularly happy. Even when flying business class out of the country for a holiday. By the way, Aeroflot does not have first class, so business class is already the top class. Maybe the reason the girls don't look happy is because they're only 9's. If they had been 10's they'd be flying on a private jet, hahaha.

And that's where the perfect 10's end up. They don't work for "public consumption".

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2249132]On my last trip I hung out at Duran Bar a lot, with great success. Any other recommendations for Clubs and Bars, I will be there next weekend. Thank you for the advice.[/QUOTE]DF,

If you had great success at Duran, then you sir, have some "game". Respect.

Right around the corner opposite The Crown Plaza, there's THE LOFT. So be sure THE LOFT is a strip club with onsite sex. But if you are pulling girls out of Duran then you probably don't need a strip club. Then you might try the following high end places that will have similar class of girls to what you enjoyed at Duran.

BAR LUCH [URL]https://barluch.ru/en/[/URL]#screen-1. Not too far away from Duran on Bolshaya Pirogovskaya 27/1. High end whisky bar and restaurant with very hot girls.

SIBERIA [URL]http://siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL] , Bolshaya Nikitskaya 58. Incredible food and amazing women. Mostly looking for guys with money but if you play the role you can "get your dick wet".

GIPSY [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/gipsy-webpage.html[/URL] , Naberezhnaya, 3/2. This place will blow your mind. Stunning women who are very stuck up (or maybe I'm just too old and ugly). At one time this was the hottest club in Moscow.

ICON [URL]https://iconclub.ru/en/[/URL], Bolotnaya Embankment 9/1. This place is interesting. Slightly older women but very well dressed and usually quite horny.

SOHO ROOMS [URL]https://www.sohofamily.ru/[/URL] , Savvinskaya Naberezhnaya, 12/8 This place used to be "the bomb" about 8 years ago. Then it went downhill but I have heard that it has made a resurgence. Might be worth checking out. I have not been there is years. Again, very hot women.

Just a word of caution. There are both regular girls and working girls (semi-pro) at these clubs and it's really hard to tell them apart.

IF you are looking for something a little more "pub like", the here are two that I would highly recommend.

OLD SCHOOL PUB [URL]http://www.ospub.ru[/URL] Bolshoy Cherkasky Pereulok, 15. Great place. Really gets going with the after work crowd. Can be hit or miss depending on day of the week. Great fun. More casual and the girls are a little less "glam".

TAP & BARREL [URL]http://tbpub.ru/en.html[/URL] Ulitsa Bol'shaya Dmitrovka, 13. Excellent Pub. Nice people. I have gone and seen tables of girls getting drink and looking for hookups. High potential.

That should get you started. The list of bars in Moscow with available women goes on and on.

Enjoy!

Jake.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2249341]DF,

If you had great success at Duran, then you sir, have some "game". Respect.

Right around the corner opposite The Crown Plaza, there's THE LOFT. So be sure THE LOFT is a strip club with onsite sex. But if you are pulling girls out of Duran then you probably don't need a strip club. Then you might try the following high end places that will have similar class of girls to what you enjoyed at Duran.

BAR LUCH [URL]https://barluch.ru/en/[/URL]#screen-1. Not too far away from Duran on Bolshaya Pirogovskaya 27/1. High end whisky bar and restaurant with very hot girls.

SIBERIA [URL]http://siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL] , Bolshaya Nikitskaya 58. Incredible food and amazing women. Mostly looking for guys with money but if you play the role you can "get your dick wet".

GIPSY [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/gipsy-webpage.html[/URL] , Naberezhnaya, 3/2. This place will blow your mind. Stunning women who are very stuck up (or maybe I'm just too old and ugly). At one time this was the hottest club in Moscow..[/QUOTE]Thank you, for the advice. I went to he Loft a few times, great looking girls. Very difficult to get phone numbers there, but real nice place.

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The city of Moscow is the most beautiful I've ever seen.

I just walked past the Aston Martin / Bentley dealership, near my hotel, I used to like San Francisco, I was just there last week.

But that shithole can't even compare to Mos.

Now to the underwhelmed part.

The pussy walking down the street is incredible.

The strip club scene is really pretty bad, I'm 100 meters from Aurora and I don't even want to go tonight, I don't know know where to go next STP or Kyiv.

But this non Russian speaker has hit the wall, hard!

My Russian vocabulary is one word, that's it, nyet!

The story of my trip to Mos in one word, nyet!

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2249877]The city of Moscow is the most beautiful I've ever seen.

I just walked past the Aston Martin / Bentley dealership, near my hotel, I used to like San Francisco, I was just there last week.

But that shithole can't even compare to Mos.

Now to the underwhelmed part.

The pussy walking down the street is incredible.

The strip club scene is really pretty bad, I'm 100 meters from Aurora and I don't even want to go tonight, I don't know know where to go next STP or Kyiv.

But this non Russian speaker has hit the wall, hard!

My Russian vocabulary is one word, that's it, nyet!

The story of my trip to Mos in one word, nyet![/QUOTE]If you do not like Moscow you probably will not like STP. STP is slower place. I love Moscow, I am not sure what you are doing wrong, I had great success there. Good Luck.