Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Bubba999;1932862]Obviously it's easiest to start in bars. I suggest Street 130 bars one block back from the river. Honeypot, Angry Birds, - maybe Loco. Going earlier, you will have a pick of girls but as Aske says. Not all go with customers. So at Honeypot or Angry Birds talk to the western managers who are always on site (William I think and Bill). They will help you narrow down the girls that match what you are looking for.Enjoy your trip!![/QUOTE]I agree with Bubba. These 3 bars is a good place to start. Later you have more experience and go to other bars. The only "pure take away place" I can recommend is Cyrcee. [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/[/URL] You can find many reports about this place in this thread.

When entering a bar the wrong girl approaches you for a drink ask her if the one you want is her friend, point at her. They obviously are all friends. So the wrong girl will initiate the switch for you. You are being approached by the right girl and she asks for a drink, order your drink. Then after she brought it over ask her if she is on the period, which is what they often say when you want to take them out, then ask her if she goes out with the customer, and only then after 2 yes you will buy her a drink. All this you do in good humor of course feeling them up and so on just ignoring the drink request. When you actually then decide to take them out do not ask: how much? Instead offer her 20 $ st or 30 $ overnight, long time. That gives you a good starting point for the negotiation, although 20st is already enough.

For the "old enough" question sadly is almost irrelevant nowadays, however you should ask them their age and later have their ID checked at your hotel. They know how old she is.

Sure thing is always la cyrcee, good BJ too! Another nod to the 130 bars loco, angry birds and honeypot. Golden vine for Viets. Check voodoo while in the area, both on 108 near 51st.

Remember to write a report after your visit, Wanderer9577.

[QUOTE=AussieFella;1932013]I was in PP earlier in the year and had no such problems. Maybe you were just a bit unlucky.

You didn't check that she goes with customers before shelling out on drinks for her? I'm not wanting to be harsh, but it doesn't matter where you're mongering, you always check that a girl is going to let you barfine her before investing in multiple drinks. It's not just in PP that the hottest girls can make a good living off lady drinks without having to go fucking random strangers..[/QUOTE]Yes, I do agree with you on that.

My point with my age and looks was not to brag or something like that, I mentioned that only to explain that my rejection was not based on my age, looks or attitude, but solely due to the economical reason.

The hot women wait for lady drinks, so it is very hard to barfine them for a night, at least that was my experience.

I also agree that some of things could be avoided, but that is the point which I wanted to bring up that nowadays you have to be strict and dominant to get what you want.

I personally don't like 5 min discussions about the price or when they try to squeeze more money after sex.

In Pattaya I rarely was asked for higher price then the standard one, and after 1 min I would always bring it down to a normal one.

Here is the opposite thing, even when you mention the normal price they still try to get these "magic" 50 $, so in the end you have a lot of stress to get your thing under your conditions.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1932028]I don't understand why you guys have so many problems in Phnom Penh. I am in my late fifties and fat. Most times I have no problems with the girls in Phnom Penh. The difference to Pattaya is probably that most girls in Cambodia only go with a customer if they like him. A girl can say no to me and 5 minuts later say yes to you. Most girls say yes to me, hehe.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=1894254[/URL]#post1894254. See my report from 06-15-16[/QUOTE]Well I don't know how many times you have visited Cambodia, or how long you stay there, so maybe you are just more experienced then I am, or I just got super unlucky this time.

My problem is more of my personality, I normally don't like to fight for the price in an attempt to lower it for a buck or so, so I prefer places where I know the "standard" price and I pay it with no drama.

So when the girl demands 50 $ and won't lower it, I just pass on them.

Some of them say then OK 25-30 $ is OK, but after the sex they begin the game from the start with 50 $, and the last thing I want is some screaming naked women in my hotel room at night.

I am in Vietnam now, and I met here several local women for 25 $ with no problem and no hassle, even though the bar scene is less open here.

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1932791] As far as the pure take out places, could you name a couple.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Per AskAsk, the most famous is [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/.[/URL] BF was $10, ST BTW $25-50, depending on whether you go across the street or take back to your room for a couple of hours. Never did LT. The rooms across the street are $5. 00, bring your own condoms (they charge $5 per condom). As usual, negotiate services upfront.

My other favorite non-pure take out is Loco. Owned by honest expat, low pressure, ladies plentiful. But not all go out so ask owner for recommendations, you won't get ripped-off.

[QUOTE=SoulBrother;1932995]Well I don't know how many times you have visited Cambodia, or how long you stay there, so maybe you are just more experienced then I am, or I just got super unlucky this time.

My problem is more of my personality, I normally don't like to fight for the price in an attempt to lower it for a buck or so, so I prefer places where I know the "standard" price and I pay it with no drama.

So when the girl demands 50 $ and won't lower it, I just pass on them.

Some of them say then OK 25-30 $ is OK, but after the sex they begin the game from the start with 50 $, and the last thing I want is some screaming naked women in my hotel room at night.

I am in Vietnam now, and I met here several local women for 25 $ with no problem and no hassle, even though the bar scene is less open here.[/QUOTE]I come to Cambodia 4 time every year. Stay 2 or 3 weeks. I don't do to much mongering now, because I spend most time with my girlfriend. Maybe you was just unlucky. I always do like this:

"Usually I talk a bit with the girl first. Buy a drink and a ladydrink. Then I ask if she would go with me. If she says yes I tell her what I want and what I would pay her. On my last trip to PP I asked 4 girls. All said yes and all accepted the amount as I offered. ".

I never tried that a girl demanded more after the sesion. I always take girls for LT.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1933035]Per AskAsk, the most famous is [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/.[/URL] BF was $10, ST BTW $25-50, depending on whether you go across the street or take back to your room for a couple of hours. Never did LT. The rooms across the street are $5. 00, bring your own condoms (they charge $5 per condom). As usual, negotiate services upfront.

My other favorite non-pure take out is Loco. Owned by honest expat, low pressure, ladies plentiful. But not all go out so ask owner for recommendations, you won't get ripped-off.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I have added that information to my notes locked in a secure place on my phone for when I arrive. Just counting down the days now!

All,

First, apologies for not replying in time to some PM's. I had some really demanding business travel and an equally demanding personal trip to the Kingdom of wonders and haven"t been able to read up.

I was in Phnom Penh fot 10 days mid / end of August to sort out some personal matters. As I had hinted in some earlier post, I had made the mistake to get involved with a girl early this year who quite caused a bit of trouble.

Long story short, I wanted to fully understand what and who I got involved with. Turned out it was worse than one could expect, and since by stuff with her is sorted I figured a little warning may be in order. My intent is actually NOT to badmouth the girl, that would be a bit quite narrow-minded.

Lina Vong a / k / a Sreyoun Aihdisdiz aka a lot of other names is working out of Soraya mall. This is her Facebook page, but beware, she may look different: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/hanna.vonghanna[/URL].

What I did not know when meeting her was first, that almost all drugs pushed around Soraya come from her and that she, together with a Barang and a Khmer dude, organize most of the girls not only around Soraya.

She loves to ask guys to smoke up a bit on drugs, first selling them the stuff for triple price and then calling in PP police. Luckily, I have an aversion against anything which does not come in longneck bottles, but apparently two guys had to bribe their way out. She also makes pictures or vids, and copies phone address books for the purpose of blackmail. Most of the girls around Soraya are seemingly indebted to her and will do her bidding. That includes Ara, a stunningly petite, 22+old Khmer beauty, Nay, slim, 20+, petite but big boobs, Chanya, 25+ mute working in the first establishment on the right of Soraya and a few others.

It seems like she has access at least to some low ranking police in PP, enough to make some blackmail scams possible. No matter if allegations are true, in PP you either pay the blackmailer or the police to get out of any jam. I narrowly avoided it by taking the first flight out of there, and that's a first for me. I did not believe she could put pressure on me when I filed some complaints but learned otherwise.

Now I don't want to be a spoil sport and PP is still lots of fun. Outside Soraya. And that includes Pontoon and HoD. Her influence is Zero.

- Be careful what girl you take out.

- NEVER EVER allow a local girl to use your phone.

- lock your stuff and especially passport in the safe.

- DO NOT do drugs. Especially not with one of the girls. If you get involved in any kind, QUADRUPLECHECK any story.

- Be VERY careful if a girl changes her phone numbers frequently.

- You still CAN get SIM cards without registration, But either way, again, avoid lending phone, card or both to a girl.

- It is a good idea not to give any girl your real name or home adress.

- I noticed that some guy in the hotel taped the action in my room. Not sure if that was his personal little enterprise or if he did that on L. 's behalf. Needless to say, he does not have any tapes, got fired and needed some medical attention. Still, gives one something to think about especially if you are married.

I never had such issues before and figure I won't have them again. I got lucky this time and was smart enough to check certain things although I should have employed some measures earlier. Another guy she worked on was in head over heels, he "loaned "her his daughter's college fund and, upon learning who and what she was resorted to physical violence which is always the worst of options.

I do not figure anyone on here would be lured by such offer, but just in case: L. Is also offering her daughter for services. I do not know if for real or just for purpose of blackmail, but anyhow, you should be clear that such thing constitutes a crime in almost any jurisdiction and will get you in deeper trouble than you can imagine. I have thought long and hard whether or not to post this on here and can but hope I have not violated any policies. For this reason I have omitted the email addys I have of L.

The pictures where she has those injuries she sent me after the guy whose daughters college fund she gambled away had messed her up and she needed money. Since I knew by then who and what she was I did not feel inclined to help.

I will be back in PP end of this year, this time hopefully for fun and pleasure. Stay safe, all of you, and have a good time.

[QUOTE=KennyRogers;1933128]- Be careful what girl you take out..[/QUOTE]Not my type, but thanks for the warning. Really.

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1932260]Hey guys,

I'm going on my first trip to PP for a couple of days as a side trip from Pattaya in October. Have a couple of questions that maybe some of you can help me with.

1. What is the process after landing at the airport. I assume I will have to fill out an immigration card like I do for Thailand. I know I will have to bring a passport style picture for the visa but at what point does that come into play? When I'm going through immigration or just after? I also know the visa is around $30.

2. What is the average cost for a tuk tuk from the airport into the city? I have seen somewhere that is it in the $8-15 but haven't been able to confirm it.

3. The girls. Are the beer bars, places the same as in Pattaya? What I mean is, do you simply walk in and look around before settling on a woman to talk to?

4. Most important, how do you tell if the women are of the legal age? Yeah, I can ask for the ID but, since I can't speak / read the language how do you determine their age from their ID?

Thanks![/QUOTE]1. You'll need to fill out an immigration card which you'll find near the visa desk. You then hand over the card along with your passport and photo to the officer at the visa desk. From there you go along to the payment desk to the far right. They'll process your visa and put it onto a full page of your passport and give it to the payment officer. When you see the payment officer with your passport, go to the desk and pay.

2. Don't worry about taking a taxi / tuk tuk from inside the airport. Walk out to the road (follow the others going the same way) and there'll be plenty of tuk tuks lined up out there. I paid $6 or $7 (can't remember) in April to go to 130st. You may be able to get it cheaper if you bargain heavily but I was ok with that amount.

3. The bars are mostly indoors although some have an outdoor seating part. Be aware that not all girls go with customers so verify that she'll go with you before you invest heavily in LDs.

4. If you're concerned about legality, just don't go with anyone you have doubts about. I've not seen any bar girls in PP who even looked borderline legal so it's never been a concern for me.

Most of all, just enjoy the place and have a great time. It's a lot less manic than Pattaya which can be a nice change.

[QUOTE=AussieFella;1935314]1. You'll need to fill out an immigration card which you'll find near the visa desk. You then hand over the card along with your passport and photo to the officer at the visa desk. From there you go along to the payment desk to the far right. They'll process your visa and put it onto a full page of your passport and give it to the payment officer. When you see the payment officer with your passport, go to the desk and pay.

2. Don't worry about taking a taxi / tuk tuk from inside the airport. Walk out to the road (follow the others going the same way) and there'll be plenty of tuk tuks lined up out there. I paid $6 or $7 (can't remember) in April to go to 130st. You may be able to get it cheaper if you bargain heavily but I was ok with that amount.

3. The bars are mostly indoors although some have an outdoor seating part. Be aware that not all girls go with customers so verify that she'll go with you before you invest heavily in LDs.

4. If you're concerned about legality, just don't go with anyone you have doubts about. I've not seen any bar girls in PP who even looked borderline legal so it's never been a concern for me.

Most of all, just enjoy the place and have a great time. It's a lot less manic than Pattaya which can be a nice change.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. I am making some notes to keep on my phone for when I get there. For #4, did you mean you don't take out bar girls in PP? From your comment, you stated "who even looked borderline legal. " So was wondering if you meant they all look [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] to you or if you meant you never saw any that looked [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url].

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1935566]Thanks for the reply. I am making some notes to keep on my phone for when I get there. For #4, did you mean you don't take out bar girls in PP? From your comment, you stated "who even looked borderline legal. " So was wondering if you meant they all look (something) to you or if you meant you never saw any that looked (something).[/QUOTE]I meant that all girls I've seen in PP bars were clearly over the age of 18. Most easily in their early to mid 20's. Still, if you see anyone who you think may possibly be not of legal age, you should probably rule her out if you're worried about fucking anyone illegal.

[QUOTE=Islandboy54;1933602]Not my type, but thanks for the warning. Really.[/QUOTE]Pleasure, buddy. Be careful twice, L. Is organzing the girls at Soraya. My hotel manager told me he knows of three people who got blackmailed and, because they did not pay, wifey or employer got some nasty vids or links.

Things are really going downhill there, although HoD, LE Cycrcee and Pontoon are still fun.

I guess my experience just proves that there is no such thing than being TOO careful and that even a seasoned and hardened mongerer's soft spot can be exploited. Never thought such thing could happen to me and would've joked about seeing anyone else doing what I did.

Anyhow, I did get out without big issues but some ruffled feathers of pride, and if my report can keep someone else out of trouble I'd say it was worth it.

Cheers, Kenny.

Hello all,

Hope this report provide some pointers for first time monger / visitor in PP.

Logistics to getting into PP:

1) If you have already applied and printed the evisa (you can apply through [URL]https://www.evisa.gov.kh/[/URL], it costs 37 USD) You directly fill the arrival & departure card and go for the immigration clearance. You'll save 30 minutes of your time.

2) For on arrival visa, it will cost 30 USD. Carry one passport size photograph handy to attach in visa application form. Go to counter for "On arrival Visa", the process is fairly quick and will take 10-15 minutes, before going to immigration clearance.

3) Convert USD to local Cambodian riels. (1 USD approx 4000 riels). In almost everyplace USD is accepted accepted with currency in return for small denomination in riels. There are two exchange inside the terminal, where you can change.

4) Buy a local SIM card, just after the arrival exit you can find 4 - 5 shops (opp to costa coffee). For 5 USD they have unlimited data plan. (There are half a dozen telecom company, after inquiring a localite, I chose Metfone Sim. Smart axa signal also found consistent).

5) Airport to Downtown: If your hotel doesn't have pickup service, you can take airport taxi just opposite to the arrival (it ll cost 12 USD fixed price). For tuk tuk you need to go little further or outside airport (costs 6-9 USD). Yet another Cheaper option is to take local bus BRT service (its only 1500 riels to city. The bus stop is located outside the airport and is at walkable distance. There are three routes, wiki it before this, you can save time and money.

Where to stay:

1) Most of the hotels are guest friendly. I did confirmed at the reception and they said no issues if girl brings ID along with her. After the girl leaves, they call you to double check that everything is fine. Depending on your budget and the activity list you may chose one in street 51 Bar street / Street 172 / Riverside / Guest house street.

Where to find girls:

1) Its easy and there are many outlets to pickup girls from the bar. (read prev report on the happening spots Cycree, Candybar,69 and many or simply stroll nearby bar area).

2) To get FL girls go to central market area, Soraya mall or any tourist spot. I was approached by at least one or two girls at these places.

3) Yet another option I feel one can easily find local girls is through plethora of apps available now. I found many girls in wechat and they were very responsive. You have to give hotel room number they will be at your doorsteps.

Prices:

1) Price is more or less same as mentioned in the ISG posts.

Report day 1: 13 Sep 16.

After seeing cute khmer girls the day before, I wanted to have khmer girl for night. I thought to check girls nearby through wechat app before hitting to bar circuit. Within an hour I got responses from almost all the girls I contacted. I asked them to send their photographs & discussed what I wanted, all quoted 100 $ for LT initially but reduced later on. I selected one khmer girl, she agreed for 50 $ LT. In the pic she was very cute & attractive but when she came to the hotel room, I found her to be not tall but around 5 ft, 45 kg, 22 years old busty in a very revealing dress. She was small but had a firm body & huge Bush. After few minutes of chit-chatting, she went to bathroom, changed to towel and came to bed and again started discussing the price. I told her everything as been already agreed on phone nothing extra or she can leave. She hesitantly agreed but started hurrying me, she played with my tool and cuddled me. I was exploring her body and she was moaning "no more". I asked for BJ, she started with HJ. She refused DATY. I flipped her down and started, she said no anal. I turned her again continued and ejaculated. After few minutes she read some text in her phone and she went to bathroom. I thought she is taking shower for next round. But she came up in her dress told some bullshit story that she came only for ST and her taxi waiting downstairs. I was furious but I don't want to get into argument. She asked me how much I can give. I gave 20 $ note and asked her to leave. She accepted and went. I was disappointed as there was no GFE but okay I had the khmer flag in list.

Have fun,

Mer