Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1319251][url]http://nurumassagebangkok.com/[/url]

Upon arrival, I was ushered inside where the Mamasan promptly showed me thier price list, said how they had just opened and were eager for repeat business. She then had the ladies outside come inside for the lineup. She assured me the price included full sex.[/QUOTE]Which it does for everyone. If you do not get this you must tell us.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]I finaly picked a lady (Joy #21) , then the partition opened to reveal a bar.[/QUOTE]May I say a very good choice our 2nd busiest lady at the moment, with many regulars already.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]I thought the bar was to allow someone time to decide upon a lady and not only after a lady is chosen[/QUOTE]No the bar is there for the same reason it is there at Dr BJ's Salon, it is there to server drinks and to give a waiting area for friends to sit in and wait if they do not go upstairs, also a place for you to rest after your session if you have not finished your drink and do not want to leave strait away.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]We then head upstairs to one of the standard rooms. Nothing special[/QUOTE]Yes they are our standard rooms, simple, very clean and very new.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]so I got a bit warm.[/QUOTE]If you started to get warm, then by all means, ask the lady to turn it back on, each room has its own aircon for this reason.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]the I was anticipating some kind of slow sensual "cleaning" but instead she just sprayed some water on me and told me to lay down.[/QUOTE]Yes this is correct, for the high end nuru gel to work, it is better on wet skin, plus this gives the girl the opportunity to check you out to make sure you are not carrying any other guests with you, in the form of an infection etc.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]I think she was just trying to get me off by grinding[/QUOTE]A lady of this amount of experience I am sure knows grinding a man for the most will not get him off, unless she is like amazing or something.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]We then washed up and got dressed. I would suggest they include either a chair or a strong bar for someone to lean on. I had an accident a few years ago that has affected my sense of balance and I need something to lean or hang onto.[/QUOTE]There is a hand rail at the front of each room, for support so you can stand up more easily if needed.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]I got the feeling she was fighting a cold[/QUOTE]We cannot see what happens in the room so whatever I say or we find out, is based on asking questions and past customers comments all added together, but what I can say for sure is she has no cold.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319251]I left rather disappoinred. Especially after I realized that from when I entered to their front doorsto when I left was only 40 minutes, nowhere near the 60 minutes that 2000 baht entitles me[/QUOTE]Now the complicated part:

I of coursed asked the lady about general customers over the last 48 hours and I can tell you there has been a lot for her and she explained besides a strange thing that happened with one customer with 2 ladies in the VIP room, all customers got what all should get as a minimum. I then asked since she started working for us, which was near our opening day, has anything happened where a customer has not got FS. She replied on her 2nd day a customer only wanted BBBJ no sex.

Every session as a minimum will include.

1 Water your body down / clean you.

2 Nuru gel put on you to make you ready for the body to the body nuru massage.

3 BBBJ.

4 Sex.

If you are not given this (if this is what you want) then speak to us there and then, there are telephones in the room for you to call down if there is ever a communication issue, do not waste time.

As we do not see what goes on in the room and a lady does not offer what she is supposed to offer in a session, if she tries to get away with it one time, then maybe she will try to get away with it again and this is not what anyone wants.

What do we do now then, a disappointed customer is a disappointed customer and no matter how hard we try I am sure there will be more.

As I was typing this out a customer came down and explained about a very small issue, nothing special really, but an issue never the less and it was resolved there and then. After we sorted it out, he said he is coming back and he was happy. This is how to resolve an issue. There was no loss of face because he spoke calm correct and to the point, the lady realized her error and we resolved it. Loss of face in an instance like this would come from making a scene and not pointing out facts.

You did not use the in room phone but f you came down explained calmly and to the point in front of the lady that there was no sex which she, every customer and every lady knows this would not be a lose of face for anyone.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1319681]I used to be like that too. Now I don't give a shit about the face Issue in P4P environment. I am the client and she needs to provide the service purchased. If she does more, I tip well and return. If Not, better to complain.

There are ways to bring things up, don't shout or say the lady is an idiot. Just smile and as you exit DrBJ, just casually ask to see the menu again (it's prominently there on the Bar). Once you confirm that the service included sex, just ask the management "oh, I see here that this includes sex but I was never offered anything close to that, I feel a little cheated". If Management ignores you then come on to ISG and let everyone know. My guess, knowing Dr BJ and Aey, they would have dealt with this right there and then, offered you an extra 60mn on the spot and a new girl.

This is what Aey does at Annies so I am sure Dr BJ is the same.

Let's face it. 2,000 thb for 60mn? Not inclusive of some sort of sexual release? NEVER EVER in BKK.[/QUOTE]I really could not even as Thai people post it better than what Nic just put here. There is no loss of faces anyone in this, in fact in my opinion the customer gains face and the lady will understand how not to possible loose face in the future because not all customers are as nice as this, if she was in the wrong.

From me Dr BJ's Nuru is ever less to do with me than Dr BJ's salon. I am helping a little just to help Dr BJ's himself, Nuru Guru who has wrote a reply but it is coming later (in his words with a little help from me) is the owner and Dr BJ himself is the owner also. I am just a friend in this.

They are new they are problems like any new place but if a place is new or old if something go wrong say and any place will fix the problem it is easy.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1319681]I used to be like that too. Now I don't give a shit about the face Issue in P4P environment. I am the client and she needs to provide the service purchased. If she does more, I tip well and return. If Not, better to complain.

There are ways to bring things up, don't shout or say the lady is an idiot. Just smile and as you exit DrBJ, just casually ask to see the menu again (it's prominently there on the Bar). Once you confirm that the service included sex, just ask the management "oh, I see here that this includes sex but I was never offered anything close to that, I feel a little cheated". If Management ignores you then come on to ISG and let everyone know. My guess, knowing Dr BJ and Aey, they would have dealt with this right there and then, offered you an extra 60mn on the spot and a new girl.

This is what Aey does at Annies so I am sure Dr BJ is the same.

Let's face it. 2,000 thb for 60mn? Not inclusive of some sort of sexual release? NEVER EVER in BKK.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Noted for the future. Hiopefully others will have a better experience. I know Dr BJ's has worked hard to build s good image. I'm not out to trash them.

MadVic

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1319706]Good advice. Noted for the future. Hopefully others will have a better experience. I know Dr BJ's has worked hard to build s good image. I'm not out to trash them.

MadVic[/QUOTE]Your original post was informative and written in a reasonable tone.

Here's another report from different thread: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1319121&viewfull=1#post1319121 [/url]

Seems they need to do some more training :)

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru;1319691]Yes this is correct, for the high end nuru gel to work, it is better on wet skin, plus this gives the girl the opportunity to check you out to make sure you are not carrying any other guests with you, in the form of an infection etc.[/QUOTE]I understand that, but there was no extensive cleaning or checking, as advertised. She just sprayed a little water on me and told me to lay down.

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru;1319691]A lady of this amount of experience I am sure knows grinding a man for the most will not get him off, unless she is like amazing or something.[/QUOTE]Well, that's all she did. I'm sorry to tell you. Maybe other guys don't want to speak up.

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru; 1319691]There is a hand rail at the front of each room, for support so you can stand up more easily if needed.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm, maybe I just didn't see it. I just know I had trouble trying to get dressed and was looking for soemthing to lean on or hang onto.

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru;1319691]but what I can say for sure is she has no cold.[/QUOTE]Well she kept clearing her throat, especailly at the end. Maybe allergies or something?

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru;1319691]I of coursed asked the lady about general customers over the last 48 hours and I can tell you there has been a lot for her and she explained besides a strange thing that happened with one customer with 2 ladies in the VIP room, all customers got what all should get as a minimum.[/QUOTE]OK, so the customer is wrong?

[QUOTE=Nuru Guru;1319691]I then asked since she started working for us, which was near our opening day, has anything happened where a customer has not got FS. She replied on her 2nd day a customer only wanted BBBJ no sex.[/QUOTE]I would have been happy with that, but she didn't initiate anything or even ask. I tried to drop some hints, but she just kept grinding away. And I doubt I was the customer she's referring to, since the Mamasan said your place had been open for 7 days already.

[QUOTE=Madvic;1319922]OK, so the customer is wrong?[/QUOTE]I don't think that's what he wanted to imply. Asking a girl afterwards is always tricky which is why it is always better to talk to the manager / cashier on the spot.

I think it is a good lesson to everyone.

MOST Businesses will listen to the customer and the girl, the girl may be truthful or not, the management will decide. Maybe the girl gets a lot of complaints, maybe she's a super performer, everyone has bad days. The Manager / cashier can decide to give you another 60mn on the house with a new girl, or they can decide to do nothing and just say sorry and send you on your way.

REPEAT business is in how management handles these little dilemmas. Handled correctly, you can gain a customer for a long time but handled poorly you can lose him for LIFE.

I think the simple fact that AEY, DR BJ, NURU GURU are on this Forum is that they care about our Feedback. I think this is a great sign when a business wants to listen to its customers.

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1317965]Tulip girls do outcall all the time, If your hotel isvreputed enough, tulip mamasan shold not have any problems sending her girls over. I have ordered home delivery many times, but I know the girls well, so I call on my favorites and I have the guarantee of pleasure,

Look every guy has his own discretion, I love asses, you may like the chest, long hair etc etc, so I strongly suggest you to go to tulip and insist on seeing the line up (being an asslover, I have even asked the girls to show their asses.) Then select 2 girls and take a taxi back to hotel in 30 mins, and jump into action,

My current favorites are 2 well known girls, Dao and Gob, but maybe you will not like them, they do all, rimming, anal etc etc,

So basically don't be lazy, don't be shy, go there ask for a line up and see them properly and be a happier man[/QUOTE]Hi AssLover945,

I have read your many posts and I share the same ass fetish as you. Can you suggest some good A+ service providers from Tulip, Mango and Cherry have nice round bubble butt Jay Lo type asses. I am looking for out call service due to lack of time so I am relying on your recommendations. Will RTF. Thanks.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1319974]I don't think that's what he wanted to imply. Asking a girl afterwards is always tricky which is why it is always better to talk to the manager / cashier on the spot.[/QUOTE]True, and even better to tell the girl what you want, in the room, before going to the manager.

However by reading Nuru Guru reply I don't understand whether the girl was explained that a customer had rised a specific complaint. Maybe it's just how the reply is written but I would have expected a more straightforward feedback on *this* specific matter such as:

"a guy who was here yesterday claims he was not given sex and that his session lasted only 40 mins"

"It's not true, yesterday I shagged all my customers except one who got a 30 mins BJ" or "yes it's true, he smelled garlic / his willy was limp / I misunderstood he wanted only a massage / he had this big pimple on his nose / he was too big / small, etc etc."

You've been around for a while and you know for sure that in Thailand (and not only) a difference exists between a general question (eg do you do everything in bed?) and a specific one (eg can I stick it up your arse?).

Now, I don't want to blame or even accuse NG and Dr BJ who provide an excellent service (well, not personally I mean) but the OP seems to me a very reasonable person and his complaint polite, precise and to the point. I don't see why he should have raised the issue if he had had a simply regular session.

Final, minor point: time. At Tulip, just to pick one example, in the rare cases where I left before the scheduled time I have always been asked why. Once it was because of the girl and I can tell you that measures were taken. Unless my mistake, Nuru Guru did not comment upon this point in his reply.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1319974]I think the simple fact that AEY, DR BJ, NURU GURU are on this Forum is that they care about our Feedback. I think this is a great sign when a business wants to listen to its customers.[/QUOTE]Yes, well, they stay here also to promote their business on top of taking care of our well-being (LOL)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1319974]I think the simple fact that AEY, DR BJ, NURU GURU are on this Forum is that they care about our Feedback. I think this is a great sign when a business wants to listen to its customers.[/QUOTE]This is funny maybe for some but I always say the lady is always wrong and the customer is always wrong and so is me. What we have to do is find a way for everyone to feel right in any situation that for any of the three is not right. A manager can only do this with feedback, this is why I like forums. I can tell you if you walk up to the manager and say, this happened and that happened, as long as you have not spent 70% of your time in the room and had sex with the lady and finish and things like that, I can not believe that there are many places that would not change the lady, refund or something like that to make all happy.

Most problems, and this may not be about this customer happen for these reason.

Lady is not in good mood (which we can tell very fast)

Customer in not in good mood (difficult to see but we try)

Bad communication (we find out as soon as we talk to the customer and lady together to make all happy many times when this happen we explain both have funny and laugh together and they have better time and she gets regular customer)

Customer want sex no condom.

Customer want sex in the ass and lady can not do.

Customer want to hit lady and she not like

We normally find out it is one of these and then we can make sure this is resolving quickly.

BJs Nuru has a hand rail area and a place for hanging clothes in every room, as well as private telephone for the customer to contact manager or the lady to contact same people for to help with issues above.

What I explain to Nuru Guru about this type of report is that it does not hurt the business as people come in anyway and one bad thing about of 100's is a nothing but better not to have as all want happy lady happy customer. What it hurts is the lady, as people now read number XX is no good and this effects her, as when customer come in they not choose her no more. All Ladies know we read the internet and all ladies know that every customer is asked how was your time in the room when they leave, and they know about the internet a lot from us, so if they are not doing what they should do, we find out very very fast and so does other customers that may come in. This lady was in fact an past lady from Annie's and worked for us for 1 year, then she went back home and she she come back and work for Nuru now. She is very young looking and very popular. Every people, not just lady have bad day, maybe this is hers and if a place is told there and then about something not right, I am sure any place would not only help but like to help and also make sure the lady is right for a place. Many people know I have fired ladies over bad comments too many that we can prove happened and are real.

See you all soon.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies;1320025]Customer want to hit lady and she not like[/QUOTE]Wow, there are some serious nutters out there!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1319974]I think the simple fact that AEY, DR BJ, NURU GURU are on this Forum is that they care about our Feedback. I think this is a great sign when a business wants to listen to its customers.[/QUOTE]I agree and am glad that they do interact here. I will take the hit for not speaking up more forcefully at the time. Like I said before, I didn't want to complain when Joy was standing right behind me. And I didn't see a way to privately talk with the mamasan, who was sitting at the bar when we came down with several people around her.

I try to provide constructive comments, recognizing that chemistry is not always perfect. However, if other customers also make similar comments, then it will be a good way to make sure Joy (#21) is counseled.

Again during our "at most 40 minute session", Joy did a token hose down, not the "full and extensive cleaning before hand" as advertised, she made no attempt to offer a BJ and there was certainly no offer of sex (ie "hey let's break out a condom"). All she did was grind away after the flip. She did do a little kissing and a brief HJ.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]What I explain to Nuru Guru about this type of report is that it does not hurt the business as people come in anyway and one bad thing about of 100's is a nothing but better not to have as all want happy lady happy customer. What it hurts is the lady, as people now read number XX is no good and this effects her, as when customer come in they not choose her no more.[/QUOTE]OK now this statement irks me. Miss Joy (#21) should have done her job instead of doing a minimal token effort and complaining about being cold with the a / see. After all, I would have loved to have written a fantastic review of her. Don't you think that if I'm dropping 2, 000 baht, I expect to be happy? If she does her job properly and provide the advertised / promised services, then there she has nothing to worry about. Instead, she chose not to with me and now it's coming back to bite her in the ass.

I still don't recall seeing any rail to grab onto while getting dressed, maybe somehow I missed it. There were some hooks for my clothes I also don't recall seeing a telephone, maybe it was inside that clear plastic box I seem to recall seeing. After all, I wasn't there to admire the interior decorating.

And please, change the music!

[QUOTE=Madvic; 1320052]I agree and am glad that they do interact here. I will take the hit for not speaking up more forcefully at the time. Like I said before, I didn't want to complain when Joy was standing right behind me. And I didn't see a way to privately talk with the mamasan, who was sitting at the bar when we came down with several people around her.

I try to provide constructive comments, recognizing that chemistry is not always perfect. However, if other customers also make similar comments, then it will be a good way to make sure Joy (#21) is counseled.

Again during our "at most 40 minute session", Joy did a token hose down, not the "full and extensive cleaning before hand" as advertised, she made no attempt to offer a BJ and there was certainly no offer of sex (ie "hey let's break out a condom"). All she did was grind away after the flip. She did do a little kissing and a brief HJ.

OK now this statement irks me. Miss Joy (#21) should have done her job instead of doing a minimal token effort and complaining about being cold with the a / see. After all, I would have loved to have written a fantastic review of her. Don't you think that if I'm dropping 2, 000 baht, I expect to be happy? If she does her job properly and provide the advertised / promised services, then there she has nothing to worry about. Instead, she chose not to with me and now it's coming back to bite her in the ass.

I still don't recall seeing any rail to grab onto while getting dressed, maybe somehow I missed it. There were some hooks for my clothes I also don't recall seeing a telephone, maybe it was inside that clear plastic box I seem to recall seeing. After all, I wasn't there to admire the interior decorating.

And please, change the music![/QUOTE]Hi Madvic / fellow mongers,

I actually also had a session with Joy on the 24th and already then she had a bit of a cold. I did a full report on our time together but like an idiot placed it in the "general reports" thread for Bangkok. Feel free to have a look.

The girl was actually recommended to me by the manager (in Italian) as someone that "worked hard". I think she made an effort to give me a massage but there wasn't much beyond that. BBJ was pretty bad (she was saying condom. Isn't this a bloody BJ bar?) but sex was alright. To be fair I did take the initiative and she did seem to cooperate when it came to full sex; rode me pretty nicely actually. I did not managed to analyze her (but only because I am a gentleman and she seemed in a lot of pain when I tried!). The cum moment was also not the best. Hid away and did not participate.

As I said, I was pretty tired and was happy to have a quicker session (about 40 mins all in) but the experience was just ok. I put it down to the fact she was young and not very experienced but perhaps it is an attitude problem after all.

Oh, one final thing: she tried to FK me several times (especially when she was riding me) but I did not really get into it. After all that's a BJ bar.

P. S. Fellow member who visited with me had number 9 and reported back a slightly nicer experience (golf course had 3 holes).

MV

[QUOTE=Madvic;1320052]Again during our "at most 40 minute session", Joy did a token hose down, not the "full and extensive cleaning before hand" as advertised, she made no attempt to offer a BJ and there was certainly no offer of sex (ie "hey let's break out a condom"). All she did was grind away after the flip. She did do a little kissing and a brief HJ.[/QUOTE]With a 2, 000 all inc, she should not have to Offer anything, you should tell her "You smoke me now" or "you have condom"? And she will get the hint pretty quick. If she pretends to not know, get up, get dressed and you will most likely see her get the HINT and beg you to stay with her and she will do all you want.

Hell, I had girls beg me to stay in the room with them even after I finished twice! They were worried the Mamasan would be angry with them if the session ended before time.

I think you should either Try Dr BJ, Annies, or even some Great Oilies like Mango, Snow White. They will make you shoot 3 or 4 times and you will forget all about the bad experiences.

[QUOTE=MecumVeni; 1320063]Hi Madvic / fellow mongers,

I actually also had a session with Joy on the 24th and already then she had a bit of a cold. I did a full report on our time together but like an idiot placed it in the "general reports" thread for Bangkok. Feel free to have a look.

The girl was actually recommended to me by the manager (in Italian) as someone that "worked hard". I think she made an effort to give me a massage but there wasn't much beyond that. BBJ was pretty bad (she was saying condom. Isn't this a bloody BJ bar?) but sex was alright. To be fair I did take the initiative and she did seem to cooperate when it came to full sex; rode me pretty nicely actually. I did not managed to analyze her (but only because I am a gentleman and she seemed in a lot of pain when I tried!). The cum moment was also not the best. Hid away and did not participate.

As I said, I was pretty tired and was happy to have a quicker session (about 40 mins all in) but the experience was just ok. I put it down to the fact she was young and not very experienced but perhaps it is an attitude problem after all.

Oh, one final thing: she tried to FK me several times (especially when she was riding me) but I did not really get into it. After all that's a BJ bar.

P. S. Fellow member who visited with me had number 9 and reported back a slightly nicer experience (golf course had 3 holes).

MV[/QUOTE]Just to save people from having to scroll back through several pages of other stuff. It was interesting that you also noted that she seemed to have a cold, even though management insists she does not.

[QUOTE=MecumVeni; 1319121]Was tempted to go to Eden (checked the girls a bit later and there were some very pretty ones; not many though. Micky the manager / owner is the stereotype of the 70's pimp: red shirt; smart trousers; pony tail and comboy like shoes) but ended up at Dr BJ Nuru.

Quality of the girls was not bad. Some pretty ones and a lot of decent ones.

On suggestion of the manager, we looked at 9, 21 and 50. My mate ended up with 9 (the nice one I think) and I picked 21 (was tempted to go for 50 but she was upstairs and I could not really see her very well from the distance).

Facts:

Place: nice touch; clean; decent standard rooms.

Time: around 15. 30.

Girls: worth a visit; no real stunners but nice quality around. Saw a couple more of pretty ones when I was leaving the place; guess they had just arrived.

Girl: young (20 yo) ; small body, nice tits, bit flat ass; darkish skin;

Service:

-massage with Nuru gel (no smell, slippery but easy to rub off with quick shower) Girl threw some over me and started rubbing her body all over. Have to give her credit for working really hard; I could feel her breasts; ass; pussy etc working my back, legs, arms etc. Nice to relax in the afternoon but not enough reason to repeat. Worth one go though.

- some really nice HJ and tit fuck followed by a pretty bad BBBJ. This was disappointing: fair enough the girl was young but at Dr BJ one would expect the speciality of the house is BJ.

I am starting to think thai girls don't know how to suck. Have to get as many bjs over the next couple of days as I would not like to leave the country with this impression hehehe. Research purposes only of course.

- then girl on top; mish; spoons; more spoons (other side) ; legs all the way up (on my shoulders) doggie; while trying to prepare hole number 3.

- hole and#3: she seemed to enjoy the finger. Did get the junior in but she just seemed to uncomfortable and was trying to run away so after a few seconds got it out and back onto to doggie.

- cumshot: on her breasts; pointed to COF but she moved her head away; did not offer CIM so again a bit disappointing.

Overall experience: the Italian manager seems to be a nice guy and care about service and place which is clean; girls seemed to have a very positive attitude; got a lot of attention from other girls both when I was going up and coming back down afterwards. The girl was very sweet but will need to learn a few more tricks and open her mouth a bit more. I am sure you guys will touch her some new skills.

Nice afternoon experience in an enjoyable relaxed place; recommended if one wants to save some energy for wilder evenings.

If I was a BKK resident would for sure repeat but as I am just passing by will check other places.

And remember: pussy is never free so must be enjoyed at all times.

MV[/QUOTE]I didn't have time to finish my thoughts the other day. What irked me about Aey Annies reply was that both she and Nuru Guru forget that this board (and similar boards all over the place) are here for the benefit of the hobbyists. It's not intended to be just free advertising with nothing but glowing reviews. Personally, on other more localized boards, if I see nothing but glowing reviews on a lady, then my warning flags go up as there may be some shills or fake reviews being posted.

Guru Nuru should not see my review as an attack on his business. I was only trying to give constructive criticism. I hope to see some other better reviews of Joy (#21) in the future. If she doesn't change, then perhaps she should think of working at another place where she doesn't have to include BBBJ or FS. I'm not interested in playing the third hole, never appealed to me.

MadVic

[QUOTE=Olinda; 1319977]Hi AssLover945,

I have read your many posts and I share the same ass fetish as you. Can you suggest some good A+ service providers from Tulip, Mango and Cherry have nice round bubble butt Jay Lo type asses. I am looking for out call service due to lack of time so I am relying on your recommendations. Will RTF. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I wish I had some providers with JLo type asses!

Asses also have different shapes and I would and't know what ass type you prefer.

A+ with bubble butt shaped good ass is indeed a rare combination.

I wanted to start a thread exactly for this reason. "To identify Bubble Butt girls in Bangkok" But I did not open one, because it would offend some mongers.

They may not be prefect, but you can try them out:

Kate, Oil & Pim from Mango.

Gob from Tulip.