The former 'murder capital of the world' is now overrun with tourists.
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The former 'murder capital of the world' is now overrun with tourists.
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Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit.
In the room she refuses to take off the top initially, saying what for, since I cannot kiss or touch anyway (hold on, not even touching now? You didn't mention that before) but upon the promise I won't touch and the explanation I just like the view, she takes it off. The view is great, and other than this snag, good session and service.
Later, I inquire about the titties situation.
- What happened since last time? You didn't like it?
- No, it's not that, my jefa forbade it because it wears off the breasts.
- (Jefa? Table that) What if I'd offer more money?
- No, I can't, really, these are the new rules. I don't know. I will have o check.
Why did she even tell her in the first place I wonder, but seeing how she likes to talk I'm not surprised.
- How about your novio? Can he touch?
- I don't have a novio, it's not allowed. (She got a bit sad for a moment).
- And why the different charge today?
- Because you take too long and ask for a lot, most guys finish quickly. (well, I did give her quite a run-through a various positions during the first session).
- You didn't like it?
- I did but it's not up to me.
- OK and how come you have a jefa?
- I signed a 10 year contract.
- WTF?
- Yeah. I will be free at 28. I have to work here.
- In Centro?
- And in the bar. But Centro we don't work often. She charges me 200 mil per client.
- Now here, it makes no sense, chicas here charge about 50 mil everybody knows that, how can she charge you 200?
- I know but she says I'm young and should be charging 200.
- But it makes no sense, you are better off not going to the room, at least you won't owe her anything.
- No, I will still owe her if I don't have clients.
- Can you stop working for her?
- No, I have debts and signed a contract.
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, or what.
I gave up further questioning for a while trying to process this confusing information. I'm still not sure whether I didn't misunderstand something, it makes no sense, maybe she charges her 200 mil daily (which is still a lot) or she's lying or not explaining it right.
- Do you have any money left for yourself?
- No, nothing left usually, I have debts to pay my jefa. (She chuckled and shrugged with resignation).
- This bar you are working at, you have clients there?
- Yeah, clients and they also have us tested, so don't worry. My jefa is here in Centro and watching with whom I go with and for how long. There are other girls in my group here too that she is watching. That's how things work.
While explaining all this she remained surprisingly positive. Then she sighs and slumps staring at the floor, changing the tone, saying she doesn't want to go out there anymore and got sad. Gave her a hug. She collected herself shortly and put a cheerful face back on.
- Well OK, I would like to stay but have to go out to look for clients, they don't like us go overtime and not working, don't forget about me, hope to see you soon.
Well, with less hurried conversation maybe I would be able to make more sense out of it, I didn't feel like she's lying at all, she tried to explain things, repeated and clarified patiently when I asked, but many things make no sense.
Whatever contract she signed at 18, isn't probably legal and her naivety / ignorance seems to be getting exploited with some made up rules and arbitrary incurred 'debts'. Looks like an organised enterprise. Protective of her breasts sicne it's their 'property' and investment and one of this girl' greatest assets. The nice working clothes are provided to her by them. Accommodation probably too I guess, since she said she pays 100 mil for a month.
Not sure if I should even session with her again if they are going to incur an instant debt for that on her, have to try to clarify that next time I'll see her, since it makes no sense.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2877291]I'm coming and going every month on American Airlines and they also require proof that CheckMig has been successfully completed. If I recall correctly I think someone said that Colombia's national airline, Avianca, knows that it's not required and they don't need proof. But I can verify AA requires it every time.[/QUOTE]Avianca does check it as part of issuing their paper ticket, but they may be more trusting allowing verbal confirmation. But as of my last flight with them out of Orlando they were asking / inquiring.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2877244]If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.[/QUOTE]Well lets see? They have him in their power. They could either torture him for the info or he gives it so he hopes the money they want will be paid and he hopes they let him go. I think at that point he is a Dead Man Walking.
[QUOTE=AdamWl;2877404]Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit.
In the room she refuses to take off the top initially, saying what for, since I cannot kiss or touch anyway (hold on, not even touching now? You didn't mention that before) but upon the promise I won't touch and the explanation I just like the view, she takes it off. The view is great, and other than this snag, good session and service.
Later, I inquire about the titties situation.
- What happened since last time? You didn't like it?
- No, it's not that, my jefa forbade it because it wears off the breasts.
- (Jefa? Table that) What if I'd offer more money?
- No, I can't, really, these are the new rules. I don't know. I will have o check.
Why did she even tell her in the first place I wonder, but seeing how she likes to talk I'm not surprised.
- How about your novio? Can he touch?
- I don't have a novio, it's not allowed. (She got a bit sad for a moment).
- And why the different charge today?
- Because you take too long and ask for a lot, most guys finish quickly. (well, I did give her quite a run-through a various positions during the first session).
- You didn't like it?
- I did but it's not up to me.
- OK and how come you have a jefa?
- I signed a 10 year contract.
- WTF?
- Yeah. I will be free at 28. I have to work here.
- In Centro?
- And in the bar. But Centro we don't work often. She charges me 200 mil per client.
- Now here, it makes no sense, chicas here charge about 50 mil everybody knows that, how can she charge you 200?
- I know but she says I'm young and should be charging 200.
- But it makes no sense, you are better off not going to the room, at least you won't owe her anything.
- No, I will still owe her if I don't have clients.
- Can you stop working for her?
- No, I have debts and signed a contract.
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, or what.
I gave up further questioning for a while trying to process this confusing information. I'm still not sure whether I didn't misunderstand something, it makes no sense, maybe she charges her 200 mil daily (which is still a lot) or she's lying or not explaining it right.
- Do you have any money left for yourself?
- No, nothing left usually, I have debts to pay my jefa. (She chuckled and shrugged with resignation).
- This bar you are working at, you have clients there?
- Yeah, clients and they also have us tested, so don't worry. My jefa is here in Centro and watching with whom I go with and for how long. There are other girls in my group here too that she is watching. That's how things work.
While explaining all this she remained surprisingly positive. Then she sighs and slumps staring at the floor, changing the tone, saying she doesn't want to go out there anymore and got sad. Gave her a hug. She collected herself shortly and put a cheerful face back on.
- Well OK, I would like to stay but have to go out to look for clients, they don't like us go overtime and not working, don't forget about me, hope to see you soon.
Well, with less hurried conversation maybe I would be able to make more sense out of it, I didn't feel like she's lying at all, she tried to explain things, repeated and clarified patiently when I asked, but many things make no sense.
Whatever contract she signed at 18, isn't probably legal and her naivety / ignorance seems to be getting exploited with some made up rules and arbitrary incurred 'debts'. Looks like an organised enterprise. Protective of her breasts sicne it's their 'property' and investment and one of this girl' greatest assets. The nice working clothes are provided to her by them. Accommodation probably too I guess, since she said she pays 100 mil for a month.
Not sure if I should even session with her again if they are going to incur an instant debt for that on her, have to try to clarify that next time I'll see her, since it makes no sense.[/QUOTE]Excelente report. She sounds good. What hotel exactly in Centro can she be found at?? And how is she Morena, blanca, flaquita or what??
A message to all you weekend warriors aka Poblado boys aka "Makin it rain fuck boys" who like to come to Medellin and act a fool and make it rain and flex your gold chains and whatnot, here is a message for you:
[URL]https://youtu.be/cy9LOLExkSg?si=6fOIv2sd_T28sB2a[/URL]
Fast forward to 5:12 of the video to skip the part about the hmong dude getting kidnapped and killed and to hear the message for all you weekend warriors.
Follow along.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2877244]If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.[/QUOTE]Either that or you can ask the girl to send you a photo of her cedula before meeting up or upon meeting up in a public place. You just got to tell her upfront that "it's for your security and if something bad happens to you while you're with her, she will be held responsible" or something along those lines. Also, letting her know that your hotel has her identification gives you leverage in worst case scenario. Now, if you mention that to her upfront and she refuses to give you her identification for whatever BS excuse that she will make up then it only means she is plotting something bad to you and you just moved on to the next one.
If she's just someone trying to make extra cash, giving her identification shouldn't be a problem right away. You can never let your guard down in Medellin especially nowadays and always got to think with the big head.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2877412]Avianca does check it as part of issuing their paper ticket, but they may be more trusting allowing verbal confirmation. But as of my last flight with them out of Orlando they were asking / inquiring.[/QUOTE]What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2877381]Even if it is, let's say, 50 guys drugged and robbed this year, the number of foreign visitors per month is 500 k or about 6 million visitors each year. So the odds are still low that you would be drugged and robbed[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. If 50 guys drugged and robbed and the number of foreign [B]mongering[/B] visitors is 10,000 per month out of the 500,000 total visitors per month, then you are diluting the numbers by including tourist that are not bringing a strange chick to their room or not outside walking alone and therefore not being drugged and robbed.
[QUOTE=ElPostino;2877438][URL]https://nypost.com/2023/12/13/news/us-comedian-tou-ger-xiong-kidnapped-killed-in-colombia-after-trying-to-meet-woman/[/URL]
Probably it is already shared in the group.[/QUOTE]Goddamn, this one came up in my regular news feed. I'm really starting to think going back to Colombia would be an irrational roll of the dice for me, even though nothing unsafe happened. At least not yet. Going there instead of a safer Latin American country is probably thinking with the little head, as well as penny-wise but pound-foolish. Can find Colombians in other LA countries, just a bit more expensive.
[QUOTE=AdamWl;2877404]Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit..[/QUOTE]I experienced similar situation with Brazilian woman in Boston US 15 or so years ago. She was working out of the apartment with her female overseer in another room. She was brought over to the States and owed some people some money, the people that you can't say 'no' to, and she said was basically working out her debts. Similar yearning reaction when I mentioned BF. Totally slaveowner & slave situation. I met someone else few years ago in the hotel who from what she told me appeared in the similar situation.
As for this girl's contract in Venezuela I bet her family sold her. I bet if she brings up legalities or decides to jet there'd be a hell to pay for people back home and she'd be dissected alive if she's ever caught + the person who helped her won't survive either. Be careful with your 'monger save a ho' desires here if you're thinking (or rather feeling) in that direction. These are very bad and very resolute people you'd be dealing with with zero scruples. Even if you somehow manage to succeed initially which is highly unlikely and would require some seriously detailed advance planning you'd be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.
My experience with Avianca last month was they paged any passenger who did not check in with an agent before going through TSA. They asked for passport, check mig, and return ticket or cedula. YMMV but why chance it?
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2877486]What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?[/QUOTE]
Before the pandemic a guy was found dead in a short time plant in Raudal. I can't remember whether or not he was a foreigner. He was seen entering the place on CCTV with a a guy who left alone a short time later.
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2877482]Either that or you can ask the girl to send you a photo of her cedula before meeting up or upon meeting up in a public place. You just got to tell her upfront that "it's for your security and if something bad happens to you while you're with her, she will be held responsible" or something along those lines. Also, letting her know that your hotel has her identification gives you leverage in worst case scenario. Now, if you mention that to her upfront and she refuses to give you her identification for whatever BS excuse that she will make up then it only means she is plotting something bad to you and you just moved on to the next one.
If she's just someone trying to make extra cash, giving her identification shouldn't be a problem right away. You can never let your guard down in Medellin especially nowadays and always got to think with the big head.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2877486]What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?[/QUOTE]I have done this exact method twice in the last few months and they ask at the gate. Sometime before boarding they will call out your name or just walk up to you if you are an obvious gringo like me and ask. This was Copa airlines.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877512]Not necessarily. If 50 guys drugged and robbed and the number of foreign [B]mongering[/B] visitors is 10,000 per month out of the 500,000 total visitors per month, then you are diluting the numbers by including tourist that are not bringing a strange chick to their room or not outside walking alone and therefore not being drugged and robbed.[/QUOTE]Of course they don't divide the numbers up by mongers versus non-mongers but it does seem likely that the number of foreign men seeking sex in Medellin has substantially increased in the past 5 years. That's the point of all these posts on this website complaining about the large numbers of foreign men coming to Medellin and ruining Medellin. I think it's likely that the increase in crimes against gringos is partly in due to the large increase of gringos visiting Medellin but I could be wrong.