Jakarta

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Jakarta indeed seems to have all my heart would desire. I do have ONE BIG concern tho and want to ask.

WG you guys find on Bats, Cj`s and etc. Now I got impression these girls come from very poor / uneducated background. For me good level of communication is very important, I don't say I need to have conversation with the girls about European economic crisis.

But I do want to have a normal conversation. Things like "no money, no honey baby" or "do you want bom bom" dose not do it for me. Hope I can have an answer on this. Since I rly don't know what to expect in asian scene.

My plan B.

I registered on indo cupid today and have found one smart and educated "possible girlfriend" during my stay in Jakarta. She have a high end job and dose not have any money concerns whatsoever.

Funny thing was she claims on her profile seeking just for friendship. We get a great conversation going and she tells me that she is avergine and will do this just with her future husband (I know not good). What became even bigger shock after this she wrote me I like sex and I need sex but just don't take away my virginity. I hope she did meen oral and anal so I can live with that.

So either way trip to Jakarta will it be.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1308221]Thanks for replay!

Funny thing was she claims on her profile seeking just for friendship. We get a great conversation going and she tells me that she is avergine and will do this just with her future husband (I know not good).[/QUOTE]Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl." Mmmm, my favourite type and have had a handfull of these on permanent standby in Jakarta for a few years. Some of the best sex I have experienced, and these days I do not bother "hunting" at the usual Jakarta venues.

One of my favourite "good girls" has a good job, lives with mum & dad, and on her way home will drop into my hotel for session. On arrival she will drain me dry with a CIM BBBJ (she knows that by letting off the head of steam she is guaranteed of a good long pounding later) then its off to a nice place for dinner and a couple of glasses of wine. Then back to my hotel for a good round of sex. OK, its a routine and may not have the excitement of "the hunt," but is good quality sex, and she is usually on her way by 11 PM which means I get a decent nights sleep and can work the next today (yep, some of us need to earn a living).

[QUOTE=Pak Mike; 1308225]Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl."[/QUOTE]

I was chatting with a good girl on Asiandating earlier. A few days ago, she gave me the "good girl" routine. The next day, she sent me photos of her just wearing her bra and undies. Of course, she doesn't use her real name on Asiandating, but she sent me the images by email, which contains her real name. I googled and searched a few other forums, and for a good girl, she's pretty active. Haha. I'm the first guy she's ever chatted with on a forum like that, she said. Nope, she's never actually met a guy on a forum in real life before. Haha. Going to take her out later tonight.

The one bit I did believe was when she said she hates guys on the forum (see, we've already forgotten the bit about never having chatted on a forum before) talking to her about sex within the first few minutes of going online. Definitely don't ask them how much they charge for anal, or something like that. The ones I've met on Asiandating have never actually asked for or taken cold, hard cash, although the restaurants they like to be taken to charge twice as much for a bottle of wine as the cost of a shag down in Kota. At least you get to drink half of it.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1307780]In daytime the only Blok M mongering activities can be deployed in Hotel Melawai (Maribaya Bar) and in the "Hookers Graveyard" (name escapes me as a result of late hour).

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]I think you mean My Place, also known as Bali Hai.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1307812]I also like comfortable hotels, quality strip clubs, bars and casinos with poker but the last one is not a must. I prefer girls with nice ass, breast no need to be big and not to low.

Any suggestions guys?[/QUOTE]Forget about gambling, unless you know an insider.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1308393]I think you mean My Place, also known as Bali Hai.[/QUOTE]Which has now closed up permanently, according to my friend. I will check soon though as I drive past every day.

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound;1308417]Which has now closed up permanently, according to my friend. I will check soon though as I drive past every day.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that is true. I was told it will be renovated into a nicer "hotel." As to what that means I have no idea. It could be normal hotel. Or it could continue as a brothel.

[QUOTE=Pak Mike; 1308225]Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl." Mmmm, my favourite type and have had a handfull of these on permanent standby in Jakarta for a few years. Some of the best sex I have experienced, and these days I do not bother "hunting" at the usual Jakarta venues.

One of my favourite "good girls" has a good job, lives with mum & dad, and on her way home will drop into my hotel for session. On arrival she will drain me dry with a CIM BBBJ (she knows that by letting off the head of steam she is guaranteed of a good long pounding later) then its off to a nice place for dinner and a couple of glasses of wine. Then back to my hotel for a good round of sex. OK, its a routine and may not have the excitement of "the hunt," but is good quality sex, and she is usually on her way by 11 PM which means I get a decent nights sleep and can work the next today (yep, some of us need to earn a living).[/QUOTE]You just got to love it LOL! Just in two days this girl developed from "looking for friendship" and saving my self for my future husband to a sex starving women)

This is high educated chick who was claiming to be a very good girl) Now she is literally asking me to come and fuck her brains out. Discussing what kind of sex will we have and asking 100s of times if I think her body is good naff for me and if I promise her not to fuck other girls)

I have no experience with asian culture and women, but I guess this is a part of the tradision / religion just to have sex with the man you love. Or I might be wrong. Because even she totally change her attitude she still claims to be mother theresa. And that she only will have sex with the guy she loves LOL.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22;1308551]This is high educated chick who was claiming to be a very good girl) Now she is literally asking me to come and fuck her brains out. Discussing what kind of sex will we have and asking 100s of times if I think her body is good naff for me and if I promise her not to fuck other girls)[/QUOTE]I think there's a few things at work. The biggest thing is that they want you to talk to them nicely and not treat them like they think men treat kampung hookers. If you show them that "treating with respect" and "having casual sex with" are not mutually exclusive, they are all for it. Then, they really are looking for a husband, if they can find someone who will sign up. If they thought that not putting out was the way to get one, they'd definitely keep you waiting. My usual MO with the dating sites is to meet up with 'them, then tell them, with a touch of sorrow, that I feel that I'm just not suited for the matrimonial state, but they seem really nice and I wouldn't mind staying in touch, meeting for a cup of coffee, chatting every now and again. Just as friends. Strictly platonic. Usually melts their hearts, they usually decide that there's no need to emphasize the "no physical contact" rule, and the game is on. I'm quite happy to wait for the second meeting before getting a shag, but maybe I'm a slow worker, some people here seem to get it on the first time as a matter of course.

After doing some reading on Asia forum I am starting to get an impression of what to expect in different destinations. But still its hard to determine which would be the best place to go to for my first visit in Asia.

Now I am thinking to go to one of the places for two weeks period. As I wrote in previous post I am more of a long term guy for whom GFE are important, professionalism, comfortable hotel, some nice cafes and dining places.

So after weighing my options I came up with two destinations that I think would probably sue me which are Bangkok or Jakarta.

Now from these two places where would you say is higher quality of the girls, where is more lt GFE possible.

Jakarta seems to have terrible traffic making it hard to come places for a noob and things are more spread but got things for different taste and price. Bangkok p4p scene seems to be huge where you got a red light districts for foreigners making it look like and easy travel destination for a first time traveler.

So taking in consideration my needs and that I would go for two weeks, first time traveler to Asia. What would you think guy would be better choice?

[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1308745]After doing some reading on Asia forum I am starting to get an impression of what to expect in different destinations.

So taking in consideration my needs and that I would go for two weeks, first time traveler to Asia. What would you think guy would be better choice?[/QUOTE]Jakartas extremely dangerous, hotels are not value for money, immigration staff at airport hassle western travellers, I've been to jakarta once and couldn't stomach the place and left after 3 days, but can easily handle Thailand no pompem!

Your analysis is dead on. For a newbie to mongering in Asia, LOS is a much easier place to navigate. More central pink zones, you can easily get around by BTS / foot to most of all the hot spots [although if you're into soapies, need a taxi at times]. And getting laid is as easy as ordering room service [literally!].

For those with more experience and a little bit of Bahasa, Jakarta remains the place to go. But you need to know your way around the city, deal with traffic, and a little bit of patience. I prefer the women here, little less commercial but that's my own personal opinion. Also I was fortunate to live here for several years back in early '90's.

For your first trip, I'd suggest Bangkok and Pattaya (or Philippines, where English is spoken everywhere). But keep in mind two weeks in one place is an awful long time, no? You do have enough time to spend few days in Bkk, few days in Pattaya (where I haven't been in over 30 yrs), and then take a short hop over to Jkt? If you do head to Jkt, set up with JAD first for one of his 'tours'...well worth the time and money.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22;1308745]As I wrote in previous post I am more of a long term guy for whom GFE are important, professionalism, comfortable hotel, some nice cafes and dining places.[/QUOTE]My advice would be to stay in Europe.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1308756]Your analysis is dead on. For a newbie to mongering in Asia, LOS is a much easier place to navigate. More central pink zones, you can easily get around by BTS / foot to most of all the hot spots [although if you're into soapies, need a taxi at times]. And getting laid is as easy as ordering room service [literally! ].

For those with more experience and a little bit of Bahasa, Jakarta remains the place to go. But you need to know your way around the city, deal with traffic, and a little bit of patience. I prefer the women here, little less commercial but that's my own personal opinion. Also I was fortunate to live here for several years back in early '90's.

For your first trip, I'd suggest Bangkok and Pattaya (or Philippines, where English is spoken everywhere). But keep in mind two weeks in one place is an awful long time, no? You do have enough time to spend few days in BKK, few days in Pattaya (where I haven't been in over 30 yrs) , and then take a short hop over to Jakarta? If you do head to Jakarta, set up with JAD first for one of his 'tours'. Well worth the time and money.[/QUOTE]Thank you for informative feedback!

Yes you are right, I do like an idea of not just staying in one place for two weeks, since it might get very monotone. Think I will go for two / three week tour BKK to start with, then Pattaya since I read that buses departure every 30 min and its only abut 130km between places. And will head towards either Philippines or Jakarta. Still need to think what is more convenient traveling from Pattaya. Good thing is in this way I will gain more experience of Asia scene and will know better what to expect.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1308773]Thank you for informative feedback!

Think I will go for two / three week tour BKK to start with, then Pattaya since I read that buses departure every 30 min and its only abut 130km between places. And will head towards either Philippines or Jakarta. Still need to think what is more convenient traveling from Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Tiger Air has flights from Phuket to Jakarta with a short stop in Singapore. It's very convenient to fly from Phuket to Jakarta one way and Jakarta to BKK the other way. Air Asia has non stops BKK to Jakarta. Tiger and Cebu Pacific have round trips BKK to AC.

Three weeks makes for a very good itinerary. I recommend roughly a week in 3 destinations of your choosing. I don't think you should try to spread yourself out too thin and try for 4 destinations. Basically you can flip a coin about Jakarta or AC. Both destinations have plenty of girls and won't disappoint. It is a matter of personal taste as to which is better. AC has practically no learning curve for a newbie. Girls are super friendly and speak English. All the bars are located on one long street. It is comparable to Pattaya in this regard. Jakarta on the other hand is a far more complex and a more interesting major city. Jakarta girls are pretty spectacular and the food is great. Jakarta is comparable to BKK. AC and Pattaya are cheaper than BKK and Jakarta. If you only have two weeks, then stay in LOS and spit your time between BKK and Pattaya.

Here is an idea of 2 sample trips: Plan 1. BKK 3 days. Pattaya 6 days. Jakarta 6 days. BKK 6 days. Or Plan 2. BKK 4 days. AC. 5 days. Pattaya 6 days. BKK 7 days. If you prefer resort towns over cities then spend a more days in Pattaya over BKK and forget about Jakarta and visit AC.

There is no bad choice among these 4 destinations. They are all insane! Yet they are all very different. You are going to have the time of your life.