Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2883422]This is what I was referring to in my response to the "I don't want the barriers removed" posts. The new mayor is known for a firm anti-crime and law enforcement stance.[/QUOTE]There were a number of reasons for the barriers, and it was not to get rid of mongering, but to keep it and the vendors, etc etc out of the immediate area of the museum. The area behind the museum and the behind the little white church is zoned as a red light area (zona de tolerencia) but I don't think that extends out into the plaza Botero. Anyway, it seems like it is an unpopular effort and especially the part where it is seen as keeping the less privileged people away from the public displays of Botero art, the sculptures, etc.

The barriers changing the traffic flow into Parque Lleras were set up specifically over concerns about underage prostitution, and there initially was some presence of agencies that try to combat that, for example they had staff at the area around the entrance to try to talk to and protect children that were hanging out around there. Again, whether this has helped to deal with that who knows. And it may have also been to try to slow down the prostitution in general in that area, as the city was seeing it as a negative for general tourism and for the image of the city. They certainly do not like being seen as a sex tourism destination.

Bienestar familiar (the agency you mentioned) has had an office in the alleyway leading from Parque Berrio to church for many years. Also, the police's women and children special brigade regularly set up intervention tents and work out of their vans in the middle of the plaza. How effective they have been I will leave up to the experts. When the barriers were initially put up I posted here that the one advantage was the reduction in vendors with loudspeakers and the most annoying of the panhandler / thieves. I also complained that those benefits did not begin to outweigh the disadvantage for my main reason for being in the plaza. Your point about limited access for the less privileged is very well taken. Not long before his death, Botero himself cited this as the reason he disagreed with the barrier. All that aside, I stand by my assessment that the real reason for the barriers in Centro and Poblado was political. The Mayor, who had been recalled and who later resigned in disgrace, did it as a political stunt to revive his moribund election campaign. Good riddance to the barrier and to the clownish Daniel Quintero. I am Knowledge and I approve of this message.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2883468]There were a number of reasons for the barriers, and it was not to get rid of mongering, but to keep it and the vendors, etc etc out of the immediate area of the museum. The area behind the museum and the behind the little white church is zoned as a red light area (zona de tolerencia) but I don't think that extends out into the plaza Botero. Anyway, it seems like it is an unpopular effort and especially the part where it is seen as keeping the less privileged people away from the public displays of Botero art, the sculptures, etc.

The barriers changing the traffic flow into Parque Lleras were set up specifically over concerns about underage prostitution, and there initially was some presence of agencies that try to combat that, for example they had staff at the area around the entrance to try to talk to and protect children that were hanging out around there. Again, whether this has helped to deal with that who knows. And it may have also been to try to slow down the prostitution in general in that area, as the city was seeing it as a negative for general tourism and for the image of the city. They certainly do not like being seen as a sex tourism destination.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been in there often or recently enough to judge the lineup. Based on what I know of the place I have no reason to doubt your assessment. With no hesitation I will say the atmosphere in the waiting area has always been a bad combination of an inner city medical clinic waiting room, an American frat party, and an abandoned property auction. I'm mystified by its popularity.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2883461]That's 2nd increase in a year for that same boring sloppy lineup.[/QUOTE]

Unlikely? For every grainy hotel and apartment security camera video of unattractive street girls carrying sacks of some unfortunate punters belongs, there are many more videos of armed robberies in restaurants and bars. The closest I've personally come to witnessing one was when I read about the robbery and realized I was having a meal just across the street when it happened. I figure if I can be that close at the same time and not even notice it then I needed to up my precaution game. If you look at some of the videos what stands out is how nonchalant the victims are, almost as if they expect it. The Colombian saying is "hoy me tocó. ".

[QUOTE=Putero1;2883421]Like a place that is right off of the street and some morons walk in off their bike to rob cell phones. Yeah, unlikely but possible. But if you are out with a girl in almost any club or nice restaurant, you are safer in the club than when you hop in a taxi to go home. Nicer decent clubs in Poblado or la 70 have security at the door. I was responding to Tex, who thinks taking a girl out dancing in Medellin is a high risk activity because you may end up looking down the barrel of a gun. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2883461]That's 2nd increase in a year for that same boring sloppy lineup.[/QUOTE]New Life is for the moron weekend warrior newbys who don't speak spanish and have no clue what they are doing.

The girls there are trash, beat up, run-thru hags. 5 years ago we would make a stop there once in awhile and occasionally find a fresh girl.

Those days are long gone.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2883126]Common sense bro. Of course our lives is worth more than a few hundreds. I'm not in danger LOL. Mde itself is. Can't allow fear to run me off like that, and just like in everything it's risk management. I met a fella the other at a casa and he lives in bello w a local wife. Doesn't date on app or mess w the scene that targets us and he's fine. We can see many on YT living and enjoying the city, incl women expats. So while the dangers exists, which is in every country mde just require a new level of awareness since it's changing. And no I wouldn't even come if I knew things would worsen. Medellin is on a transition of increase danger, maybe going back to its old ways unless things change. And we don't want to be the Guinea pig for the experiment till others stop coming LOL. So I will get the fuck out, just on my own terms. The slight hood and ganster idgaf side of me hate the idea of being forced to do anything. If I'm in the street and everyone starts running I'm usually calm and walk. Call me a rebel LOL. I'm just glad that many tourists are now canceling their plans to come here and hopefully soon a huge reduction of tourism can starve these mfrs.[/QUOTE]Completely agree, though it's clear that "common sense" differs significantly from person to person. That's why tools like Chica Check can help guys who are new to MDE, before they get targeted by scammers / robbers; at least it was helpful for me. Even got a free month of VIP access after a chat with the admin.

[QUOTE=Stl24;2882837]Good luck! Looking forward to hearing how it went and how it compares to pre and during the barricades.[/QUOTE]I just went to monger in plaza botero this morning. After hopping off the bus in the prado centro area where they sell stuff on the ground under the metro, I walked across the street and directly into the Plaza and straight down to the church without any checkpoint to walk through.

Theres girls around the water fountains again and sitting on the brick work of the church. The area feels more open and free again like how it always used to be pre-2023.

As far as you sissy boys who say it was better with the barriers you can still go hide behind the barriers in parque lleras. Maybe that will be your new safe place since plaza botero is no longer safe for you guys unless if you've got some real cajones LOL.

As far as my session went I found a 24 year old vennie. BBFS CIP for 80 mil and I paid for the pieza at hotel botero real still 9 mil. She was kind of mechanical and didn't like to kiss or make eye contact but she smelled and tasted clean and I got my nut off inside her so I was a happy camper.

Afterwards I talked to my homegirl Gaby out in front of the church for a bit and she agreed that is better now without the stupid barriers and things are getting back to how they used to be before.

I think maybe I'll start going down there more often again.

-Gabacho.

Incoming Moron Weekend Warrior.

I'm travelling to Medellin soon and will be staying in the El Poblado area (near the Santafe Mall). I don't speak any Spanish. I'm mostly interested in full service massage places (or brothels, if they exist). I'm pretty comfortable with the protocols in the US when it comes to getting extra services in massage parlors, but I'd appreciate any tips in Medellin. Is it legal there or do I have to be discreet. If I wanted an hour massage that includes Full Service, what would the total cost be (session cost + tip).

Thanks for any advice. I did scroll through the pages here before posting this. We have a similar forum where I am (Maryland) and I know to RTFF first.

[QUOTE=MaxLee88;2883490]New Life is for the moron weekend warrior newbys who don't speak spanish and have no clue what they are doing.

The girls there are trash, beat up, run-thru hags. 5 years ago we would make a stop there once in awhile and occasionally find a fresh girl.

Those days are long gone.[/QUOTE]5 years ago, webcam and onlyfans was not so common. Also don't forget the guys flying girls out, paying them cash to be on call if you will. So, I guess the pool of workers has shrunk who work at those casas.

Besides Energy, what are some good parlors in the Laureles area?

[QUOTE=MaxLee88;2883490]New Life is for the moron weekend warrior newbys who don't speak spanish and have no clue what they are doing.

The girls there are trash, beat up, run-thru hags. 5 years ago we would make a stop there once in awhile and occasionally find a fresh girl.

Those days are long gone.[/QUOTE]I still go in for that rush of seeing a new girl.

Theres currently one new girl, she's a few weeks pregnant and lactating. That was a nice surprise.

I need to find some other economical casa de cita now. That was my I don't even want to think, I just know I want to bust a nut for a good price. 70 is pushing it for me even for their lineup now.

Ya know. I have been to Medellin about a half dozen times and I hope to go back. My knee needs a replacement and the walking would be hard on me so I will stay in my southern base of operation which is Sosua. I am not trying to start one of those compare and contrast arguments. I don't use the traditional mongering venues here anymore because it has been about 50% ruined and 50% overinflated- I have found a better way. Anyhow, I can't help but notice that the posts here are starting to look like they did in the Sosua section about 6 or 7 years ago and I suspect for the same reason.

[QUOTE=Magma5108;2883150]I'm traveling to Medellin for the first time and the type of woman I'm looking for seems to match what you're describing. Educated and smart, talented. How do I go about meeting them? I'm a mid-30's male and I'll be staying in El Poblado.[/QUOTE]I used [URL]seeking.com[/URL], but I am not sure it is good anymore to find women like this.

If your goal is being a sugar daddy, I would print up business cards and hand them to hot women and tell them you are hiring.

If your goal is a serious relationship, I would do something now I have not done before which is to flat out ask the hot women if they were single and if they said yes, I would tell them I was from the USA and wanted to meet Colombian women and ask them out for coffee or a drink. Colombian women usually do not say no much or try to put men down so they might give you a fake number or their real number and not respond to you, but they do not seem to be the kind who would put you down.

And for long term, I would only go for white collar women or those studying to be white collar.

So knowing what I know now, I would be much more forward, nice but very forward.

I don't want to sound like a complete wet-behind-the-ear newb, but how does Parque Lleras work. I walk around there and it's dead as fuck. The only people approaching me are doormen trying to get me to pay for over price drinks. All the chicas are on their cellphones tiktoking it up or some shit. What am I missing about this place?

[QUOTE=Putero1;2883074]I believe that is an urban legend. That they can blow it in your face or just touch you with it on your skin. No. This drug whatever it is (probably scopelamine mixed with benzos), you have to ingest it and a decent amount too. For it to work.[/QUOTE]The thought that they would even go through the trouble to manufacturing scopelamine when there's so many other available sources of drugs out there just as or more effective, such as Ketamine, Benzodiazepine's, Xanax. Etc. Scopelamine is basically used for Nausea conditions and of course drugging's I guess if available. Is there that many out work pharmaceutical chemists available or desperate to go through the trouble of making scopelamine instead of 2C-B or Fentanyl, which Medellin has become huge player in the manufacturing of fentanyl, especially in Bello. There's been at least 6 overdose in Cartegena from fentanyl laced Ketamine, probably more by now. Just think Scopelamine is just more of insinuation of to describe insidious situation.