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Against the customers. I heard that some police would camp outside MBC (when it was LA cafe) , and when a customer took a girl out of the place, try to cause trouble and get some extra pocket money.

[QUOTE=Ray777;1124867]Extortion? Against the girls or the customers?[/QUOTE]

Yep, I agree, especially in a place like MBC where people tend to be back the next day or if you are like me after a meal / drink for seconds. That way you avoid the awkwardness and the crap that goes with it. Face it she will be back there even before you. SAME SAME.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1125184]Sometimes not a bad idea to stress from the beginning that you are a "butterfly."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1125184]Sometimes not a bad idea to stress from the beginning that you are a "butterfly."[/QUOTE]Not neccessary to do this unless you have a habit of selecting the dogs who get little or no play.

[QUOTE=DavidCanada1979;1125310]Against the customers. I heard that some police would camp outside MBC (when it was LA cafe) , and when a customer took a girl out of the place, try to cause trouble and get some extra pocket money.[/QUOTE]These stories have occasionally been posted on ISG, but they're usually from second or third hand sources. I have never seen it happen, and others who frequent the place much more than I do have similarly reported no such problems. This doesn't mean it has never happened. One variant is that a guy and his FL get into a cab in front of the club and then quickly get pulled over by another vehicle whose occupants claim to be police. One interpretation is that these are con artists posing as police, and they are in cahoots with the cab driver. One avoidance strategy is to walk with the woman one block to the East on the cross street, Romero-Salas, to Mabini to catch your cab, or one block West to the service road along Roxas Blvd.

Others suggest that if you have a cell phone, have a contact number entered before you go out for your country's embassy and another for the Manila City Police Department. Then pull out the phone and offer to call either the embassy or the "police" officers' headquarters to help clarify the misunderstanding, since walking with a woman on a city street in Manila is not illegal. (The police do, however, sometimes arrest unaccompanied women under the guise of some presumed "curfew" law.) There's no question that there's a substantial Philippine economy that runs on bribes, but individual cops who engage in maverick bribery are sometimes unpopular with their sergeants if the latter have not been cut into the action.

Another interpretation is that most of these events are actually urban myths. It would be helpful if those who claim to have these experiences first-hand could provide enough detail to allow others to suggest preventative strategies.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1125448]These stories have occasionally been posted on ISG, but they're usually from second or third hand sources. I have never seen it happen, and others who frequent the place much more than I do have similarly reported no such problems. This doesn't mean it has never happened.

Another interpretation is that most of these events are actually urban myths. It would be helpful if those who claim to have these experiences first-hand could provide enough detail to allow others to suggest preventative strategies. [/QUOTE]Have taken bunches of gals from MBC / Gpoint / Southern Cross / etc. Never been stopped, and never talked with anyone who has been stopped, or heard of anyone being stopped. Urban myth, or something that hasn't occurred in many years.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1125448](The police do, however, sometimes arrest unaccompanied women under the guise of some presumed "curfew" law.)[/QUOTE]A year or so ago I was chatting a gal in Gpoint for a while. Couple of rum / cokes later I told her I was leaving for LA Cafe. Paid the tab, walked outside. 1am. Damn. Real tipsy. Felt like walking. Faura, right? LAC is only about 5 blocks. Couple of perpendicular turns and you're there, right guy? But which turns? I asked the door guy directions. That took about 30 seconds. I was about to walk off when 6 girls, including the girl I had been chatting, came pouring out of Gpoint."Are you taxi?" No, walking."Can we walk with you?" Well, half a dozen lookers. Sure. Suddenly I had a girl's arm hooked into each of my elbows. And all the girls were arm-hooked. We were walking down the middle of the street. 7-abreast (no traffic). I asked why we are all walking together: "Because police like arrest us they see more than one girl walking it. They not bother if we with kano." I asked why arrest? She said the police assume prostitute. What happens once arrested? Jail for the night then release in the morning. Why not just grab a taxi?"Hahaha we no money for that."

[quote=westcoast1;1125489]a year or so ago i was chatting a gal in gpoint for a while. couple of rum / cokes later i told her i was leaving for la cafe. paid the tab, walked outside. 1am. damn. real tipsy. felt like walking. faura, right? lac is only about 5 blocks. couple of perpendicular turns and you're there, right guy? but which turns? i asked the door guy directions. that took about 30 seconds. i was about to walk off when 6 girls, including the girl i had been chatting, came pouring out of gpoint."are you taxi?" no, walking."can we walk with you?" well, half a dozen lookers. sure. suddenly i had a girl's arm hooked into each of my elbows. and all the girls were arm-hooked. we were walking down the middle of the street. 7-abreast (no traffic). i asked why we are all walking together: "because police like arrest us they see more than one girl walking it. they not bother if we with kano." i asked why arrest? she said the police assume prostitute. what happens once arrested? jail for the night then release in the morning. why not just grab a taxi?"hahaha we no money for that."[/quote]to west coast

you are lucky this is true many police target la customer, my first trip to pi la cafe back then back in 2002 i was stopped just pick a girl from la walking back to pan pacific told me the girl is **** and tell me she is a hooker and told me i broke the law, after he check the girl i'd and i told him if i broke the law i have no problem go back to the police station with him, i was very nice and calm and he just told me i can go, this happen to me a few time in pi and south america but i never give in to shake down and contact the us embassy if they take you to the police station, most the time they will let you go if you didn't do anything wrong.

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[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1125479]Have taken bunches of gals from MBC / Gpoint / Southern Cross / etc. Never been stopped, and never talked with anyone who has been stopped, or heard of anyone being stopped. Urban myth, or something that hasn't occurred in many years.[/QUOTE]The inside scoop I got from LAC / MBC is that some taxi guys are the setup. To avoid it, don't pick any taxi that is queing. Some of the taxies are in cahoots with cops and they plan a specific route with a cop / cops in waiting. And normal MO is to threaten you for picking working girls and then a compromise of 5000 peso or so will fix it.

And only once did I make the mistake, and the taxi guy was trying to take a short cut. And by girl (she's like a bodyguard for me. Sometimes.) yelled and started arguing with the taxi guy and threatened to call LTFRB and suddenly the driver switched to 'sorry ma'am', 'yes ma'am', sige po ma'am. Suspect he tried to lead us to a waiting copper.

I never had an issues, and all other time, I took taxis passing by. Though some ruffian tried to be funny even then. Asking me for 'booking charge' for a taxi that was passing by.

Sort of it feels like an escape from hell, when you cross the gauntlet of taxies trying to grab you.

There is a police checkpoint on Salas, which is the short connecting road between Del Pilar and Mabini, and across from MBC. It is maybe none too wise and asking for trouble to saunter past them with an MBC girl on your arm!

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1125612]There is a police checkpoint on Salas, which is the short connecting road between Del Pilar and Mabini, and across from MBC. It is maybe none too wise and asking for trouble to saunter past them with an MBC girl on your arm![/QUOTE]How long has the checkpoint been there? In the past I walked many girls down Salas toward Mabini and never saw police. I guess the last time I left the area accompanied I probably walked down Del Pilar to Pedro Gil and then in front of the casino. So maybe now going the other way on Salas. Toward Roxas. Is a better route for seeking a taxi?

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1125613]How long has the checkpoint been there? In the past I walked many girls down Salas toward Mabini and never saw police. I guess the last time I left the area accompanied I probably walked down Del Pilar to Pedro Gil and then in front of the casino. So maybe now going the other way on Salas. Toward Roxas. Is a better route for seeking a taxi?[/QUOTE]Well, its not exactly a checkpoint but when I have cut through that way recently, I have noticed that a squad car seems to be permanently parked facing MBC and a little beyond and on the opposite side of the road to the Middle Eastern restaurant. Maybe they are there under mayoral orders to keep an eye on the MBC.

I always, like you, cut through Salas towards Roxas and get a taxi on the access road beside Roxas. For one thing this avoids the traffic on Del Pilar, and another is that you get to evade the voracious taxi 'door openers and tip please' brigade that hang around MBC.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1125418]Not neccessary to do this unless you have a habit of selecting the dogs who get little or no play.[/QUOTE]Are they all as worthless as this one, and the previous ones I've seen from you recently? If you don't have anything worthwhile to say, why don't you just move on to where the perfection you seek can be easily found. Obviously it is not in the Philippines. I would venture to guess that it is not anywhere that you would actually be able to find the GFE like that of a Filipina.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1125448]These stories have occasionally been posted on ISG, but they're usually from second or third hand sources. . One variant is that a guy and his FL get into a cab in front of the club and then quickly get pulled over by another vehicle whose occupants claim to be police. One interpretation is that these are con artists posing as police, and they are in cahoots with the cab driver. One avoidance strategy is to walk with the woman one block to the East on the cross street, Romero-Salas, to Mabini to catch your cab, or one block West to the service road along Roxas Blvd.

Others suggest that if you have a cell phone, have a contact number entered before you go out for your country's embassy and another for the Manila City Police Department. Then pull out the phone and offer to call either the embassy or the "police" officers' headquarters to help clarify the misunderstanding, since walking with a woman on a city street in Manila is not illegal. (The police do, however, sometimes arrest unaccompanied women under the guise of some presumed "curfew" law.) There's no question that there's a substantial Philippine economy that runs on bribes, but individual cops who engage in maverick bribery are sometimes unpopular with their sergeants if the latter have not been cut into the action.

Another interpretation is that most of these events are actually urban myths. It would be helpful if those who claim to have these experiences first-hand could provide enough detail to allow others to suggest preventative strategies. [/QUOTE]SK.

Some of it dopes exist having been subject to a failed police shake down. Never take a cab directly outside MBC ever! I did not but taxi took the long route (ask for driect route, highway) and ended up in some barangay being asked by two friendly policemen if I had guns etc, where is I'd. Never give I'd and if you must a photocopy.

I mentioned the phone numbers etc and s you rightly pointed out and I was let on my way. Has happened to other friends but your advice about walking down the road is a good piece to remember.

There was some FRs long time back on this but I am one it did happen to. I don't frequent MBC anymore (not becasue of that incident) but because I have enough DIA girls and regulars and if I want newbies I like Havana, find MBC far too seedy and fuglies abound IMHO but I know many differ in that view so no comments

What is the pricing at EDSA Complex?

A friend of mine just returned from there the other night and was quoted 3000ST. 5000LT excluding BF. Is this the current rate or way over the top?

[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1126177]What is the pricing at EDSA Complex?

A friend of mine just returned from there the other night and was quoted 3000ST. 5000LT excluding BF. Is this the current rate or way over the top? [/QUOTE]Absolute garbage. It's 1600php for the barfine, plus 2000-2500 tip (depending on the girl, your negotiating skills, etc.). I only pay 2500 for LT + she's totally hot.