Moscow

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2256347]Hi DF,

Glad you're having a great time. Just checked the Weather in Moscow and shock, shock, -7 .

That I can get over it but what puts me off a Moscow trip is the fucking Visa hurdle.

I am in Ternopil next week and might consider a side trip if my Russian speaking wing woman, scout, mistress, agrees to it as she's Ukrainian.

Apartments are no good for me as I prefer to stay at centrally located hotels with English Speaking staff on reception and I already have few contacts.

That site for the girls looks promising but prices hidden? How much did the girls cost you?

Just to get an idea of Moscow prices.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Said it a Million times the Visa is the best. This keeps out the losers that have ruined other destinations. Take advantage of this. Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys, use this to your advantage.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2256700]Dude,

I have been here 3 weeks and the is the worst place on the planet to monger.

Uber app doesn't work.

My gmail acct is frozen.

The Russian govt blocks most websites.

Russian cell service is a joke.

Nobody speaks English, I know 2 words of Russian the and nyet.

Its crazy cold and windy, below zero F all day yesterday.

I took the subway taxis buses light rail all over the city yesterday.

I haven't had sex in 6 fucking days.

That agency? 2 real models are you fucking joking? I called she sent, a girl with tattoos all over her arms, I would not do her, if you paid me, she was an hour late and she tried to upsell me.

Before I told her to get lost!!.[/QUOTE]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2256458]150 Euros, but very good. Had 4 girls were about as hot they can be, in contact with on WhatsApp. One slightly above average clocked watch. The other was not that hot. Manager of the agency was great, follow up and was easy to deal with. Perfect English.[/QUOTE]I saw what she sends out!

If anyone tells you you can get an escort "as hot as they can be", in Moscow for 150 don't believe it, maybe 1500 usd more likely 15000 usd.

Thats 150 usd, the girls gets 75 minus taxi costs, there are street vendors selling hats at the metro right now, that cost more than that.

This is a rich city with tons of wealth, the wgs all want a whale, I tried seeking, avg to below avg girls were quoting me, $2000-2500 per hour.

I offered them that in rubles and of course they blocked me.

Tinder, those girls are just bored, I swipe right 200 times a day.

Its a waste of time.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2256816]Said it a Million times the Visa is the best. This keeps out the losers that have ruined other destinations. Take advantage of this. Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys, use this to your advantage.[/QUOTE]"Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys".

Not unless you count dirt cheap escorts from your link that you could not pay me to have sex with.

I've been hanging out in the clubs, the only old guys the WGs like, are the ones wearing armani and speaking russian.

I spent 10 weeks in FKKland summer 2017 and 10 weeks in mexico summer 2018.

In retrospect those were pretty good trips.

Moscow is turning out to be one big waste of cash.

I was told before I came, no russian, no problem, the wgs just want your money they don't care.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa more lies!

I don't know if I would make a huge difference, because I'm not finding anything I like regardless.

I do see a few wgs in the scs that I try to speak with.

When I whip out my fone to google translate they laugh and walk away.

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2257046]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.[/QUOTE]Cold yes I agree one should not complain, but I watched the weather before I came, October was awesome high 50's high 60's, I get here 1st week of Nov.

A few weeks later its 0 F that's crazy I just expected a more gradual decline in temps.

And I wouldn't be bitching.

If it was Jan. Or Feb. I could see, but even the Russians are complaining!

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2257046]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.[/QUOTE]The quotes I get in the scs are 18000 for the girl 6000 for the room, 60 mins, I'm guesing the upselling only begins once you get in the room!

I had a few of the lowest of the low, offer lower prices I can't even remember what they said, I just remember running away.

Interesting debate here between Tsar Nikolas and DramaFree.

Personally I have not had a good night of chasing girls in Moscow since the late 2000's. Mostly dissapointments and I've pretty much given up on it. I get my kicks elsewhere nowadays.

I have a buddy, European guy, good looking and adonis like physique (has been going to gym regularly for 20 years and keeps an insane diet), suave, charming, with a good job. He cleans up on Tinder. All freebies. This guy wouldnt even consider p4p. But most of his chicks I've seen are 5's and 6's in my book and I wouldn't bother with them at all. I can remember only one or two that seemed interesting to me. Cant think of one stunner in the bunch.

He tells me its getting harder to hook up as he passes 40. Fortunately he has bagged himself a hot (in his eyes) 19 year old trophy wife whom he will take with him when he leaves Russia.

So please forgive me if I am also a bit skeptical about Moscow being the best mongering destination. Or maybe our buddy DramaFree is like my friend (both in terms of his strengths and attributes and standards). In which case Moscow is indeed a playground for him.

Just my 2 kopeks worth. I'd be happy to be proved wrong and to get back out there and make up for all I have been missing out on.

UncleV.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2257146]Interesting debate here between Tsar Nikolas and DramaFree.

Personally I have not had a good night of chasing girls in Moscow since the late 2000's. Mostly dissapointments and I've pretty much given up on it. I get my kicks elsewhere nowadays.

I have a buddy, European guy, good looking and adonis like physique (has been going to gym regularly for 20 years and keeps an insane diet), suave, charming, with a good job. He cleans up on Tinder. All freebies. This guy wouldnt even consider p4p. But most of his chicks I've seen are 5's and 6's in my book and I wouldn't bother with them at all. I can remember only one or two that seemed interesting to me. Cant think of one stunner in the bunch.

He tells me its getting harder to hook up as he passes 40. Fortunately he has bagged himself a hot (in his eyes) 19 year old trophy wife whom he will take with him when he leaves Russia.[/QUOTE]I am 50 years old, I guess with a little bit more game than I thought. You should not give up. For me it is great, but I am not affiraid of rejection, it makes me stronger. Happy to meet when I am in Moscow.

I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.

Don't like the cold? Don't go to Russia. The Kremlin's blocked your favorite site? Get a VPN. Your email doesn't work? Gmail has always been shit for me in Russia. Yahoo also. Establish a Yandex account before your trip.

Tired of working girls? Take a train to Tula or Tver and make your way to an 80's or 90's disco and by a girl a drink or ask her to dance.

A lot has changed for the better as well. Restaurants, transportation, communication, hotels are all better than back in the day. There are PLENTY of cities in the world that are worse than Moscow for mongering, starting with nearly every city in North America.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2257169]I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.[/QUOTE]Great Post, I had none of this issues that this guy is claiming happened. I use Gmail and Zero problems. Love Moscow.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2257167]I am 50 years old, I guess with a little bit more game than I thought. You should not give up. For me it is great, but I am not affiraid of rejection, it makes me stronger. Happy to meet when I am in Moscow.[/QUOTE]Thanks! This gives me hope (for Moscow).

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2254587]Hi,

I am an Indian guy and will be in Moscow. I was interested to experience a strip show there with my wife. Will it be safe to do so? We are brown skinned and don't speak Russian. Just wanted to have some harmless fun.

If we can visit, please suggest some good strip clubs along with prices. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Fellow Indian here.

From my experience, strip clubs in Russia are very safe.

I didn't speak a word of Russian, they made me feel very welcome there. Don't believe western media spreading lies about Russians being racists etc.

They are very good toward us Indians.

Strip clubs would have hostesses who speak English.

Entry is from Rb 500 - 1000, dance was something like 1000/1500 I don't remember exactly.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2257169]I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.

Don't like the cold? Don't go to Russia. The Kremlin's blocked your favorite site? Get a VPN. Your email doesn't work? Gmail has always been shit for me in Russia. Yahoo also. Establish a Yandex account before your trip.

Tired of working girls? Take a train to Tula or Tver and make your way to an 80's or 90's disco and by a girl a drink or ask her to dance..[/QUOTE]Good post. I agree with what you said. I didn't have any problems with gmail or using google translate.

I think most mongers are inherently lazy and bad tourists in general, you need to expend energy and figure things out when you are in Russia.

I found all my girls on rosudog (spelling) , Russian girls, 100/150 $ usd an hour, they looked like their pictures, all fine. Perhaps many mongers are just used to easier destinations, Russia is for the advanced.