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I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]Having been to most Countries in South and Central American countries for more years than I care to remember, it's very possible to be in a regular relationship BUT the odds are not in your favor. I had 2 serious relationships in Brazil out of maybe 100 different women I have met. An 8 year relationship with a Tica, again out of many many women. 2 very serious ones in Colombia. Currently engaged to a STEM major in the Nat'l University who has never been prepago, in fact I'm not sure she even knows what that is. Jaja. The other is now a Chef in Paris.
2 absolutes are required.
You both need to speak the same language fluently, either both speak English or Spanish, better Espanole so you can interact with her family, a very important part of a serious deal.
The other is you both need to live in the same country, or at the very least she needs a 10 year visa so you can alternate visiting each other every month or so. I don't recomend trying this with a prepago, there are some successful relationships like this but very, very few. Too many built in problems with that deal. If you really want to try this, don't go to SF, or escort web sites, instead, live in Colombia, go to a language school and meet some normal women, join a gym, etc. If you fall in love with a working girl you will be falling in love by yourself. Good luck.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]How successful are you at finding STR in the US? If you aren't finding it easy at home, it will be extremely difficult in Colombia.
You'll have more difficulty regardless. Unless you put yourself in the middle of a middle class or better neighborhood and go native, most of the girls you meet will be from low income families. The good news is that those are the ones most likely to be interested in a STR with a gringo. The bad news is they expect payment.
The middle and upper class girls won't expect payment, but they are less likely to go for a 1 night stand, or a short affair.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]It is simple. If you.
Meet a hooker then it is P4P. If you meet a normal chick then you can have a normal relationship. How could you not want to be a walking ATM if you would not mind a seeking type arrangement? You understand the premise is the same give money-get pussy relationship as any other P4P? Show up to a seeking type relationship without money and see what you get.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]What's a blackpiller and redpiller?
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2702922]What's a blackpiller and redpiller?[/QUOTE]Blue Pill = They still believe the fairytale they were told growing up and happily ever after is real. Think of the gringo who believes he has a Colombian girlfriend who stopped being a working girl to be his girlfriend as long as the gringo sends her support money every month and when he visits the 2 weeks every few months they will be together as a couple.
Red Pill = Free thinking and able to see that most of what they were told was a lie. Think of the gringo who comes to Colombia and knows the girl he's fucking has a gringo boyfriend from America, Europe, and England all sending her support money every month while she still have a local Colombian boyfriend living with her off of the gringos money and she still continues to be a working girl. I know many like this in CTG, and DR. The chicas are even so bold to have the boyfriend drop them off at your place and pick them up after you finish. So that taxi driver where she was sitting in the front seat? Think twice about it and accept the truth.
Purple Pill = When the blue pill believes in the fairytale but starts to see the truth of the wife just want to use him as a retirement plan so he rides the border accepting the truth and the lies depending on the day.
Black Pill = Nothing in life matters and there is nothing you can do to change it. Things will always be this way and there is no changing them. Think of the phrase "you can't turn a hoe into a house wife". "They will only see you as a walking ATM." "If you can't get this type of girl where your from what makes you think she cares because your a foreigner."
Red Pill Rage = My favourite! When the blue pill realizes they been living a lie and it all comes crashing down to where they are forced to accept the truth they go into deep rage of everything is a lie. Think of paternity fraud where a wife gets pregnant outside the marriage and the husband raises the child as his own not knowing it's not his. Then one day something is wrong with the child and it has a genetic disorder but it doesn't run in the husbands family or the wives family so a DNA test is done and he finds out he's been raising that child for 18 years and it's not his. Very high percentage of men out there raising kids that aren't theirs.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]I have a little over 10 years on you and been doing this traveling thing for over 10 years and I'm certain there are members on this forum that have 10,20 maybe even 30 years more than me and still going strong in the travelling game. Listen to them and take it all in to see where things are going before you get to that point.
As at LatinaLover said, the most important thing is that you must speak the same language. The chica will want to take you home and show you off to her family as you are the big catch to make her life easier. If you cannot communicate with her mom, aunts or grandmother it will be difficult as those are the ones you will have to impress and Latin culture is all about family, we are talking multiple generations under 1 roof.
You will have to move to her country, do not bring them to yours because once they realize you aren't anything special and there are better options for them because they outclass all other women around them with their natural beauty, or getting lots of attention from other men they will leave you. If you don't move there you run the risk of just being the gringo boyfriend who only sees her a few times a year and she will get lonely when all her friends are out with their boyfriends posting instagram pictures, etc causing her to get a local boyfriend. Remember in her country she's a dime a dozen, in your country she's in high demand. If you have a remote job that you can do overseas for months at a time, this may work.
Get away from paid services and talk to local girls who have normal jobs. They might still do sex work on the side once in a while when they need the new iPhone with 3 cameras, or need a new fridge, or washing machine, or big hospital bill for mom, but they do not depend on it to survive (don't ask them, and you may have to overlook it if you encounter it). If they ask you for money on the first date you know where its going.
You can fall into that small percentage that it will work but I do not know anyone personally that has made this work. The most I've seen it last was about 3 years but the back and forth travelling became too much time consuming as the years went on and either she found someone closer willing to live there or he found someone local to him.
Either way you are still very young so good luck with whatever choice you make.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2703024]I have a little over 10 years on you and been doing this traveling thing for over 10 years and I'm certain there are members on this forum that have 10,20 maybe even 30 years more than me and still going strong in the travelling game. Listen to them and take it all in to see where things are going before you get to that point.
As at LatinaLover said, the most important thing is that you must speak the same language. The chica will want to take you home and show you off to her family as you are the big catch to make her life easier. If you cannot communicate with her mom, aunts or grandmother it will be difficult as those are the ones you will have to impress and Latin culture is all about family, we are talking multiple generations under 1 roof.
You will have to move to her country, do not bring them to yours because once they realize you aren't anything special and there are better options for them because they outclass all other women around them with their natural beauty, or getting lots of attention from other men they will leave you. If you don't move there you run the risk of just being the gringo boyfriend who only sees her a few times a year and she will get lonely when all her friends are out with their boyfriends posting instagram pictures, etc causing her to get a local boyfriend. Remember in her country she's a dime a dozen, in your country she's in high demand. If you have a remote job that you can do overseas for months at a time, this may work..[/QUOTE]This is another great answer to the wrong question.
He wasn't asking about LTR, long term relationships, he was asking about STR, short term relationships. Date and fuck for a few days or weeks, then move on.
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But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?
Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?[/QUOTE]Yes youn eed to leave bcos they will only 2 extension per entry. But you could stay until slmost end if Feb.
I did a same day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it NP. Others said you needed to eait X days, but could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said.
So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute it. Please let us know if you find out.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2703017]Blue Pill = They still believe the fairytale they were told growing up and happily ever after is real. Think of the gringo who believes he has a Colombian girlfriend who stopped being a working girl to be his girlfriend as long as the gringo sends her support money every month and when he visits the 2 weeks every few months they will be together as a couple.
Red Pill = Free thinking and able to see that most of what they were told was a lie. Think of the gringo who comes to Colombia and knows the girl he's fucking has a gringo boyfriend from America, Europe, and England all sending her support money every month while she still have a local Colombian boyfriend living with her off of the gringos money and she still continues to be a working girl. I know many like this in CTG, and DR. The chicas are even so bold to have the boyfriend drop them off at your place and pick them up after you finish. So that taxi driver where she was sitting in the front seat? Think twice about it and accept the truth.
Purple Pill = When the blue pill believes in the fairytale but starts to see the truth of the wife just want to use him as a retirement plan so he rides the border accepting the truth and the lies depending on the day.
Black Pill = Nothing in life matters and there is nothing you can do to change it. Things will always be this way and there is no changing them. Think of the phrase "you can't turn a hoe into a house wife". "They will only see you as a walking ATM." "If you can't get this type of girl where your from what makes you think she cares because your a foreigner."
Red Pill Rage = My favourite! When the blue pill realizes they been living a lie and it all comes crashing down to where they are forced to accept the truth they go into deep rage of everything is a lie. Think of paternity fraud where a wife gets pregnant outside the marriage and the husband raises the child as his own not knowing it's not his. Then one day something is wrong with the child and it has a genetic disorder but it doesn't run in the husbands family or the wives family so a DNA test is done and he finds out he's been raising that child for 18 years and it's not his. Very high percentage of men out there raising kids that aren't theirs.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm going to keep it honest DigLicker keep that weird shit in the states when you come down to Colombia.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2703229]This is another great answer to the wrong question.
He wasn't asking about LTR, long term relationships, he was asking about STR, short term relationships. Date and fuck for a few days or weeks, then move on.[/QUOTE]Oh I'm completely off on this one then. I thought they were looking for something ongoing like a few months as to me STR is a few months. For a few days or weeks then Seeking just may be the way to go.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2703276]Yes youn eed to leave bcos they will only 2 extension per entry. But you could stay until slmost end if Feb.
I did a same day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it NP. Others said you needed to eait X days, but could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said.
So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute it. Please let us know if you find out.[/QUOTE]Sry, am pretty sure that is not what I wrote. I will try again.
Yes you need to leave bcos they will only give 1 extension per entry. But you could stay until almost until end of Feb.
I did a same-day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it, NP. Others said you needed to wait X days, but they could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said and perhaps spreading false information.
So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute that. Please let us know if you find out.
I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2704136]I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.[/QUOTE]I was in MDE 2 weeks ago, for a long weekend, Friday thru Sunday. Exchange rate was 4100.
Was using my spirit frequent flier miles, now the trip mileage to spend has almost doubled, could be because it is June and summer vacation too.
Now airfares have gone up, so I am sitting home. Yes.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2704136]I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.[/QUOTE]The amount that my flights have increased would pay for 9 days in my hotel and I usually stay 2 weeks so yes it is keeping me away. I always fly COPA.