Jakarta

Folks, so I have been in touch with a couple of DIA gals from Jakarta.

One of them just cracked me up when chatting with her on WhatsApp. Here's what it is. She only enjoys giving BBBJ a little, but no CIM. Doggy is her favorite part. And she has big assets (according to her) , face looks on in a picture I saw of her. And the best part. She brought up the money topic in the conversation and on being asked how much she expects, she said that she wants 2 million IDR for over night (LT) and about 800K-1 million IDR for ST.

When I told her its kinda high. She tells me that this is the normal rate.

Now this gal is only a care-taker of an apartment complex, not a hifi model of any sort! So I did not expect these rates, esp. After knowing the pro-prices at Classic, TopGun LT, etc.

Any advice from fellas here? Should I bargain for a lower one telling her of the reality I know or just dump her before I meet her or what?

Any tips are welcome. At this moment, I am only amused!

PS: She knows I am from the US of A.

[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1311520]Folks, so I have been in touch with a couple of DIA gals from Jakarta.

One of them just cracked me up when chatting with her on WhatsApp. Here's what it is. She only enjoys giving BBBJ a little, but no CIM. Doggy is her favorite part. And she has big assets (according to her) , face looks on in a picture I saw of her. And the best part. She brought up the money topic in the conversation and on being asked how much she expects, she said that she wants 2 million IDR for over night (LT) and about 800K-1 million IDR for ST.[/QUOTE]I won't pretend I know specificaly Jakarta very well but in general when it comes to mongoring I use DateinAsia, Tagged, craigslist aso frequently. So I know you can run into someone like you did. First you think they are normal non p4p girls but later it turns out to be complete opposite.

As for the pricing issue there are a few things worth remembering on a general level (my meaning). First try to look up what is the main price beeing quoted from the freelancegirls. In Jakarta I have been reading ISG forum and also got PM`s that a freelancegirl can cost from 3. 500. 000 ST and from 500. 000. 1MILL LT (overnight and multiple entries). I guess you can consider your DIA date a freelancegirl. So 2MILL sounds steep to me if she is not very Hi So, Model material or have some special skills as squirting, wetsex and the like. But ofcourse only the sky is the limit when it comes to pricing and ofcourse someone having their looks and beauty playing as an advantage can keep a higher price as long as they get customers / sponsors.

Second and more important is if you agree to a high asking price the girl can easily choose not to perform (starfishing) and she still knows she will still get good money from the situation. Example: If you agree to give her 2MILL for LT she can perform badly so you want her out of the room quickly. She knows you will not give her full asking price but she will probably end up with around 1MILL or so (for maby a bad and even short ST session). This is calculated up front. I have made this mistake when I was a young mongorer and it is educational.

And third never pay upfront. You tend to get more motivated girls this way.

Just my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1311457]Could some of you experts on Jakarta give me a hint of a 2-3 days mongoringpackage. Just wanting Freelanceladies. I presume I will end up in Block M (My Bar, Top Gun, Sportsmann) so I would realy like to have tip of the closest decent hotel preferably walking distance to this place. As I have read most of the hotels (99, 9%) are GF and no joiners fee am I right? So then it is just location location and licefree bed (I hope) which is realy important to me.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to contact JAD and hire him for one of his infamous tours

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1311554]Your best bet is to contact JAD and hire him for one of his infamous tours[/QUOTE]The Ambhara hotel is just across the road from Jalan Pelatehan.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1311457]I have been reading somewhat many threads inside ISG`s Indonesia page. Mostly looked / read the Photo gallery and some of the Indo`s I find very gorgeous. I have also been reading about hotels and some in the general Jakarta thread.

Could some of you experts on Jakarta give me a hint of a 2-3 days mongoringpackage. Just wanting Freelanceladies. I presume I will end up in Block M (My Bar, Top Gun, Sportsmann) so I would realy like to have tip of the closest decent hotel preferably walking distance to this place. As I have read most of the hotels (99, 9%) are GF and no joiners fee am I right? So then it is just location location and licefree bed (I hope) which is realy important to me.

/QUOTE]I'm not an expert, but I'll give it a shot. Smoothy already addressed Hotel Classic so I'll mention other info for you to continue your research. Ramadan will be over on 19 Aug. You may want to travel to Jakarta on or after this date. As far as hotels go, look on TripAdvisor for the Ambhara Hotel as well as the hotel Gran Mahakam. I don't know what your budget is. Ambhara is closer to Jalan Palatehan. Mahakam is also within walking distance but you may prefer a taxi. Mahakam is nicer and has a more conservative feel but like any hotel I've used in Jakarta they won't bat an eye if you bring in a girl you've picked up. Hotel Melawai is an easy walk from Mahakam. Just head to the elevator and go up to the 6th floor. Also, there are two malls within walking distance so you have that. Look up Ambhara and Mahakam and take your pick. Or try something else in the area. If you want to venture into Kota you may want to save it for your next trip and just use this round to get your feet wet in the Blok M area which is relatively tame and manageable.

I might be moved to Jakarta for work and may not be provided with housing, so I've been checking apartment prices and am a bit shocked at how high rent is there. I'm finding most apartments priced from 1300usd on up to 5000usd! I was expecting prices similar to Bangkok. Now I know in a lot of countries there rental sites aimed at naive foreigners and charging 'gringo' prices while the locals pay significantly less. Could anyone with experience renting in Jakarta comment? I'm looking for something cheap, nothing fancy, but not filthy or in a dangerous area. What should I be paying? Feel free to PM me if you're so inclined. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1311705]I might be moved to Jakarta for work and may not be provided with housing, so I've been checking apartment prices and am a bit shocked at how high rent is there. I'm finding most apartments priced from 1300usd on up to 5000usd! I was expecting prices similar to Bangkok. Now I know in a lot of countries there rental sites aimed at naive foreigners and charging 'gringo' prices while the locals pay significantly less. Could anyone with experience renting in Jakarta comment? I'm looking for something cheap, nothing fancy, but not filthy or in a dangerous area. What should I be paying? Feel free to PM me if you're so inclined. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]To Satyr23,

I am not sure which area of Jarkata you are looking at you should be able to get a studio apartment outside the city center for less than 7 Mil RP a month, Condo in Jarkata are cheaper than in Bangkok you should ask for help by Local co worker for help don't go to real estate agent they will find all the high price condo for you to get more comissions.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1311705]I might be moved to Jakarta for work and may not be provided with housing, so I've been checking apartment prices and am a bit shocked at how high rent is there. I'm finding most apartments priced from 1300usd on up to 5000usd! I was expecting prices similar to Bangkok. Now I know in a lot of countries there rental sites aimed at naive foreigners and charging 'gringo' prices while the locals pay significantly less. Could anyone with experience renting in Jakarta comment? I'm looking for something cheap, nothing fancy, but not filthy or in a dangerous area. What should I be paying? Feel free to PM me if you're so inclined. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Welcome to jakarta Satyr23 if you might move to jakarta. I am native here and the price which you got from 1300usd to 5000usd is possible. It is depend which area are you looking for.

Are you looking for a long term apartment or short term? You can try apartment around "kemayoran" or "MOI kelapa gading". They are safe and clean and have a decent price too.

By the way don't your company arrange one for you?

Good luck

[QUOTE=Simple Aja; 1311816]Welcome to jakarta Satyr23 if you might move to jakarta. I am native here and the price which you got from 1300usd to 5000usd is possible. It is depend which area are you looking for.

Are you looking for a long term apartment or short term? You can try apartment around "kemayoran" or "MOI kelapa gading". They are safe and clean and have a decent price too.

By the way don't your company arrange one for you?

Good luck[/QUOTE]It's complicated with the company. Looking for long term. A year lease. Thanks, I'll check those areas out.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1311764]To Satyr23,

I am not sure which area of Jarkata you are looking at you should be able to get a studio apartment outside the city center for less than 7 Mil RP a month, Condo in Jarkata are cheaper than in Bangkok you should ask for help by Local co worker for help don't go to real estate agent they will find all the high price condo for you to get more comissions.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Nice! Thanks, that price is more like it. Sounds like good advice.

Gentlemen,

Any knowledge on Tara Lee and / or Ayuko (both can be found on SEA)? I'm planning to meet one of them but, before that, would like to know if anybody met them before and how was it.

If anybody has any good info, please, share (before I take one for the team).

Thanks and cheers.

Sauro

All,

I am in touch with a DIA gal who works at the Ritz Carlton, Jakarta.

She has told me things like. She will meet me and decide if she wants to sleep with me or not, she has been with 20 odd men in the past, she does not "charge" anything for sleeping with folks but they usually pay her in some way, etc.

I know her real name, designation at the hotel, cell phone number since we chat on WhatsApp, etc.

Since many of you here have had fun encounters with DIA gals. I want to check if anyone here has met this one that I am describing? It would be my first time and do not want to waste time if she is not worth it in any way. Hence asking for more info here if you are one of those lucky 20 men from her past.

I can certainly say that she looks cute and hot.

The only other thing that she has left me in limbo on is her deciding about sleeping with me after meeting up. Do not have precious minutes to waste and get myself interviewed for sex at a place like this but also do not want to pass up a real non-pro gem, you know what I mean!

From chatting she seems like a hard working and nice gal who is just out to have some fun in life. Of course you can never say anything for sure about anyone. Esp. Girls!

Let your feedback pour in.

Rbamane.

I dated two different gals from the Ritz. Can't say for sure that you are describing either because there are lots of women that work there and you didn't give much in the way of specifics. Both were non-pros and I had a good time. One was a receptionist and one was a supervisor, but I can't remember of what. The one that was a receptionist was finishing up her university and didn't have alot of time to hang out between work, school and going home practically every weekend. The other one was high maintenance. Who knows, it may be neither and you may have a diamond. Good luck.

Oh, it might not even be the same Ritz. There are two in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1314372]All,

I am in touch with a DIA gal who works at the Ritz Carlton, Jakarta.

She has told me things like. She will meet me and decide if she wants to sleep with me or not, she has been with 20 odd men in the past, she does not "charge" anything for sleeping with folks but they usually pay her in some way, etc.

I know her real name, designation at the hotel, cell phone number since we chat on WhatsApp, etc.

Since many of you here have had fun encounters with DIA gals. I want to check if anyone here has met this one that I am describing? It would be my first time and do not want to waste time if she is not worth it in any way. Hence asking for more info here if you are one of those lucky 20 men from her past.

I can certainly say that she looks cute and hot.

The only other thing that she has left me in limbo on is her deciding about sleeping with me after meeting up. Do not have precious minutes to waste and get myself interviewed for sex at a place like this but also do not want to pass up a real non-pro gem, you know what I mean!

From chatting she seems like a hard working and nice gal who is just out to have some fun in life. Of course you can never say anything for sure about anyone. Esp. Girls!

Let your feedback pour in.[/QUOTE]I have dated a two girls I met through an internet site, My experience has been, they will hound you more than the P4P girls, I mean hound you, BBM you to, SMS you every 15 minutes, even when you're in a meeting and have explained you cannot answer beforehand. Then good luck getting her to leave your room in the morning.

The two I spent a minute or two with wanted to go eat the brunch at Shangra-La hotel or the Mandarin, I had no problem however, I have a steady lady at home and when on the road am all about maximizing my experience!

I even explained before hand, you need to get out of here by 0830, as my work day starts. One fussed and complained and stormed off, only to sms me 30 minutes later asking to come back the next evening.

[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1314372]All,

I am in touch with a DIA gal who works at the Ritz Carlton, Jakarta.

She has told me things like. She will meet me and decide if she wants to sleep with me or not, she has been with 20 odd men in the past, she does not "charge" anything for sleeping with folks but they usually pay her in some way, etc.

I know her real name, designation at the hotel, cell phone number since we chat on WhatsApp, etc.

Since many of you here have had fun encounters with DIA gals. I want to check if anyone here has met this one that I am describing? It would be my first time and do not want to waste time if she is not worth it in any way. Hence asking for more info here if you are one of those lucky 20 men from her past.

I can certainly say that she looks cute and hot.

The only other thing that she has left me in limbo on is her deciding about sleeping with me after meeting up. Do not have precious minutes to waste and get myself interviewed for sex at a place like this but also do not want to pass up a real non-pro gem, you know what I mean!

From chatting she seems like a hard working and nice gal who is just out to have some fun in life. Of course you can never say anything for sure about anyone. Esp. Girls!

Let your feedback pour in.[/QUOTE]I have been dating quite a lot of girls from various datingsites (incl DIA ofcourse) mostly in Thailand and China but I guess this does not prevent me from commenting on your upcomming date in jakarta Indonesia.

I have had simular approaches earlier but I did not go through with them. If I am about to be interviewed upfront for sleeping with me then it is a no go or a turn off for me. These girls (simular setting) I consider to be somewhat semi p4p and NOT non p4p. But this is just my meaning.

My ideal setup with datingsites girls is that we don't talk about coming events as sexual encounters and so on. We take it as it comes. And I feel my rate of success is fairly good without having discussed the matter of sex beforhand. That is for me an ideal setting for meeting a non pro girl. If they are non pro the word money will never be mentioned (yes I know we guys at some point have to pay for it if we like it or not, hehe). Without making this a big issue I feel your girl (20 guys before you) have crossed the line of a professional working girl. At best her feet crosses the line having one foot in non pro and the other in pro. But she may be a stunner and she knows it so she would like to go through a certain screeningprocess before interacting because she knows she can choose.

I don't, in any way, try to make you feel discomfort or anything. If she is hot go through with the interview, be accepted and fuck her brains out. Give her whatever you feel is appropriate in line of gift, money or whatever. You can also try to give her nothing. That, atleast in my book, devides non pro from pro girls.