Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1159715]Anyway, got to Cancun around 8. 45pm. Boate had a live guitar / drums duo playing Braz songs, not bad. Trouble was the 30 guys to 18 girls ratio. All Braz guys, standing around in robes drinking. Not really one hottie in the bunch of girls. Waited about 30 mins to see any change, and left. Whiskeria downstairs did appear fuller but we didn't take a look.

Entrada was only R$30. I couldn't tell if that was a special or normal these days at Cancun. Whiskeria was R$20 entada counted towards consumption.

Pretty bummed overall as I've had some luck at Cancun in the distant past.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]I was in Rio and went to Cancun 13-23 April, and the action was the same as you explained it. I did get one girl who approached me who had lil to sign language english ability. I took her because there were so many Brazil there as if they were having a private party. I took the girl and we had a long wait for a room. Once we got in she was great but a little new and timid. I liked it because it gave a nonpro air. I was satisfied with BBBJ, great pussy fuck, but she couldn't quit get my dick in her ass. But the pussy positions were great. She had nice tits, dark hair, hazel eyes, and was naturally round in the right places. She took the cum shot on her tits.

After she gave me her number, but she didn't return to the bar. Suddenly an english speaking, tall black dark afro wearing garoata started stalking me but I was done, sort of running from her. But we chatted and I told her I was done. But I did get her to give me her number. Then she asked if I wanted to eat after, since Cancun was about to close. She suggested I met her at the McDonalds on Rus Branco. I got there and waited and she arrived in 20 minutes and we rode a taxi to Lapa. It was a Wednesday night or Thursday morning. We at and took a taxi to my place near Belforte Roxo and Copacabana. Got to my place a 3am. She showered and when I showered she fell a sleep on my couch. Fuck. So I went to bed. All doors were locked, and the keys, money, credit cards and valuables were hidden. Plus usually tema girls are not as risky as other Rio gdp. When I a woke she was in bed with be in a spooning position with no panties on and I had a morning woody. Reach and got a condom and slipped it on and entered her. I can get a hint. We fucked for a long time. But She had FAKE tits. I hate fake tits. But she had everything eles nice, especially the bunda.

When it was all said and done she left before noon for she had to go home to Flamingo and get ready for school and work. Besides food and drink in Lapa, I gave her R$30 cab fare. Tchau. She's now my friend on orkut.

I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July! I will even bring you the receipt so you will know I am not trying to make any money off of you!" This b*tch had the nerve to get upset and say "I can't believe you do not trust me! I will give you the money once you get here!"

I explained to her that I know at least 8 Americans who had brought things to Rio for the Brasilians to then claim that they didn't have the money or that they wanted a discount. Now mind you, this girl just came back from 3 months in Europe, so I am sure she made a boat load of euros while she was there and here she was complaining about sending me a lousy 500 dollars!

I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative!

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1160598]I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July!

I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative! [/QUOTE]I can understand the GDP not wanting to trust a gringo monger with 500 US of her money. I doubt these girls trust any man. I think it's unfounded though. Most international-traveling mongers that I've met are really fine people, the kind of people that are highly regarded in their professional and personal lives outside the mongering scene. But the girls don't know the difference between classier gringos, and the favelados that they are used to. All the same to them, so I wouldn't expect or extend trust from / to these girls.

In the case that you had brought one and she couldn't pay you, couldn't you could return it to Best Buy or whatever unopened when you get home, or take alternate forms of payment from her and her friends before giving it to her. 500 US is a lot of pussy, but pussy in Rio adds up to 500 fast, and she's well motivated to hook you up with some crazy girls and crazy times to get that laptop so I would rethink it.

As Brasilians start to want more foreign goods, maybe they will realize how the govt is fucking them dry with the import tariffs that are passed on to the consumer, and demand that the protectionist tariffs are reduced. Until then, we can try to take advantage of their backwards system by bringing in simple things duty-free, and reaping the benefits of that favor. I've never brought in things for girls, but I always get requests from Brasilian business associates for oddball items from the US. They order online and have it shipped to me, then I bring it and they are eternally grateful. Some wise-guys will give work contracts to foreigners contingent on those foreigners meeting with them in Brasil so many times. This is because they want the gringos to bring in duty-free items for their personal use each time. So if you play along, they are eager to contract with you again because they have a whole list of thing they want duty-free. And you get to monger each time, with the travel paid by their company. It's a wonderful thing. I've never had to pay my own airfare to Brasil, as Brasileiros see to it that their company pays for it, so they can get something duty free from my suitcase! And it's all legal! As the Brasilian cultural trainers say, in BR it's all about personal relationships. Bringing duty free is part of that. In my experience, if you bring some duty free stuff and speak some Porto, you become regarded as one of the good gringos.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1160631]I can understand the GDP not wanting to trust a gringo monger with 500 US of her money. I doubt these girls trust any man. I think it's unfounded though. Most international-traveling mongers that I've met are really fine people, the kind of people that are highly regarded in their professional and personal lives outside the mongering scene. But the girls don't know the difference between classier gringos, and the favelados that they are used to. All the same to them, so I wouldn't expect or extend trust from / to these girls.

[/QUOTE]PutaPlaya you are right, but in this case, this young lady and I have a history. We have known each other for over 10 years! MANY times I have given her money to help her with her bills or save her from some emergency or another. I didn't even fuck or get a BJ, I did it to help her and her family. After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme. LOL!

I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1160638]Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return![/QUOTE]Far from all, but many brazilians are very ungrateful. You can give them a nice gift and not even get a "Thank you" in return.
[QUOTE=Bravo;1160638]After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme.[/QUOTE]I had a bunch of Help-girls as neighbours. Before I left my apartment I asked them if they wanted some leftovers. Bread, eggs, ketchup and mineral water. The girl who picked up the food was grateful and gave a BJ as her way of saying thank you. :D

[QUOTE=Bravo;1160638]I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return![/QUOTE]I understand where you are coming from. But I get the sense that you are a normal guy who comes to Rio for bit of fun. Like any man with balls dreams of doing. And otherwise follows the social mores in day to day life. Now on the other hand, most GDPs are the dregs of Brasilian society who say 'fuck that' and only care about money. So they think you share that greed and would likewise fuck them out of their money (laptop) given the chance. I know GDPs who are fucking around with gringos despite the fact that they are married. Risk divorce. Risk being disowned by their families, risk getting HSV2 or worse and transmitting it to someone who loves them. Because they are greedy hos. And since they are greedy, they assume everyone else is, and just wanting to rip them off. Like you, I want to interact with them on a human level but share your distrust because most of the girls are just transactional. I recommend staying in EUA and touring USA Sex Guide venues at lower cost unless there is a reason to go to BR. Dealing with BR putas vs American swing club or adult bookstore girls is fucked up. On one hand, you have Brasilian girls that think fuck strangers =money and then USA girls that think fuck strangers='Oh. I'm a nasty girl. I like to be fucked like a ho' I trust the EUA girls more, cause they are in for kicks and not for money. Americanas at sex venues are primal, and free fuck you just to feel nasty. Brasilian girls are mainly just greedy, fuck you until your wallet is bare and that is the end of it.

May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.

This is my first time posting on the board. I had not been to Rio in many years – around 15 years. I used to go with friends. Two weeks ago I went by myself. It was a 20 hour flight from San Francisco to Rio but I slept most of the time. I stayed at the Oceano Copacabana hotel.

[url]http://www.oceanohotel.com.br/[/url]

It was expensive but in a great location and the staff was friendly.

The first thing I noticed is Rio is much cleaner and has a safer feel about it, especially around Copa Cabana. I think the government is trying to prepare the city for the Olympics. The Favelas are still there but some locals told me that the government is working to try to make them better places to live with education programs, gyms, etc.

Day 1.

I pulled out my paper notes and maps from years ago and headed out to the termas. All three termas I used to visit were closed. Disappointed, I went back to my room. I called for an escort. The girl came late and tried to change the price before we even started so I paid for her cab and sent her on her way. Frustrated, I went out and had a couple of beers at the café around the corner.

Day 2.

Eager to get some action, I woke up early the next day and went to an internet café that I found advertised on a flyer. The internet café is on the 9th floor of a building. I did some searching around on the internet and came up with some terma names.

To pass the afternoon I decided to try my old dependable place – Vila mimosa. For those of you who don't know what Vila Mimosa is, it is a red light district. Around 1000 girls work there every day. When people on the board say VM they mean Vila Mimosa. The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.

Here is a map of the location:

[url]http://www.brazzilforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7959211[/url]

Immediately I noticed Vila mimosa has changed as well. Just like in the past, there were loads of girls. And just like in the past, VM has never been an upscale place. Even so, it is much more run down than it used to be. Also the girls look a little rougher than they did in times past. I saw more tattoos and I think the girls are bigger. They look more like gangster girls from MTV videos. I spoke with several girls and even though all were friendly, I did not find any I liked.

In the evening I went to Barbarela.

[url]http://www.telelistas.net/locais/barbarella-boite[/url]

+boates+Rio-de-janeiro+rj+145925708.

F-ing expensive. Every price I was quoted was around 200 to 300 US to go back to the hotel for a short session. The quality was not impressive.

I had Monte Carlo on the list.

[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/[/url]

But I decided to abandon it and re-think my strategy after such a string of failures.

Day 3.

The next morning I went to the internet café again. At the cafe I searched "Rio de janeiro termas" on Google.

This came up at the top of the list:

[url]http://www.adelatours.com[/url]

Apparently this company did Terma Tours. I tried to call the number on the website but no answer. I emailed and heard back right away. I booked the Terma tour through email and received an email for the starting location of the tour. I went to the starting location at 9:00 PM. Then the tour guide, code named "Bernie," showed up. As it turns out three other guys that were hanging around the meeting spot were also there for the tour.

We taxied to the first place called Max's. There was a nice selection of around 20 girls and the place was clean. The price was fair. I took a girl to the room and had a good experience. I am not demanding so a good blowjob and passionate pussy sex was enough for me. Next we taxied to another place around ten minutes away. Once again a nice selection of girls and a clean layout. I didn't do anything (too tired) but enjoyed looking. We did one more stop at a place called Leticia massagem. Fifteen girls and all mostly hot. Again, price was good. I did one more session and called it a night.

Day 4.

I went back to Leticia massagem the next night.

The rest of my time was devoted to business.

Food.

One thing that has not changed in Rio is the delicious food. Here are a few places where I ate like a king:

[url]http://www.porcao.com.br[/url]

[url]http://www.bobs.com.br/[/url]

[url]http://www.carretaochurrascaria.com.br/[/url]

Conclusion: Rio is huge and is changing. Vila mimosa is cheap but rough. The higher-end big named termas are too expensive. I didn't know about internationalsexguide. Info before I went.

Do your research first or get a guide or do both. Try to find the smaller establishments in between the name brand tourist traps and the dives. The middle establishments might not have the quantity, but many times they have better quality at a fair price.

due to imported things being so expensive in brazil i always get buddies to bring me stuff. i mean little things you can get in the us for $5 sometimes cost r$50 in brazil. adding to this i always get buddies to stop off in the rio duty free store at the airport and fill their $500 quota with perfumes etc. perfumes that cost $60 make great gifts for women, if you have 3 or 4 regulars a bottle of perfume is a great birthday gift. cheap from our point of view and usually very well appreciated from the girls point of view as it is r$250+ in brazil.

just to clarify the above point. you can legally bring $500 of goods with you and then add another $500 worth of goods purchased from the rio airport duty free store. the airport store sux for everything but alcohol or perfumes etc.

btw, if anyone brings in some stuff for a brazilian and they don't want it i have friends that will take it off your hands for what you paid for it as long as it is wrapped in the original box. i have friends that basically make a living selling imported stuff. these guys live cheap and scrape by by teaching english and selling crap, i guess it beats doing to crappy job in the us!

Does anyone have the original post by Jackson on his GDP gift theory? If you do please post.

[B]The life cycle of the appreciation you will get from a gift[/B]. (It went something like this)

When giving a GDP a gift you must be aware of what benefits it will give you. Sure the GDP will be grateful when you give her something. However for every say 8 hours that passes after the gift, the benefits or gratefulness of that gift will halve. So basically once 24 hours passes the benefits you will get from that gift are all but gone!

Now the benefits of that gift doesn't really go up that much for every extra dollar you spend on a GDP. For a gift of say $50 she will be very grateful. If you get her a gift of $500 she will maybe be 20% more grateful, however going back to the life cycle benefit theory, that benefit too will all be gone after about 24 hours. There will be some residual gratefulness, but it is very small.

Hence if you are going to get a special girl a gift, do it. Just remember that the cost of $20 to $50 will get you the same benefit of something really expensive and be prepared for the benefits to rapidly decay. I generally give a $60 perfume for my favourites on their Birthdays Christmas etc. I will give out maybe 10 gifts in the year. I like to do it, it is cheap and any girls I hang out with a pretty cool anyway, the scammers are scanned out long long ago.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1160638]PutaPlaya you are right, but in this case, this young lady and I have a history. We have known each other for over 10 years! MANY times I have given her money to help her with her bills or save her from some emergency or another. I didn't even fuck or get a BJ, I did it to help her and her family. After a few years of being "Mr Nice Guy", I started to feel like a sucker, especialy when I would read the board and see guys who demand a programma for 2 bottles of VS creme. LOL!

I mean I could have told her,"My price for bringing it to brasil, is a programma, plus the money for the computer". However, I told her I didn't even want one centavo of her money. This be*tch didn't even appreciate it! I swear if somone I knew / trusted said they could get me a 65inch Samsung for 1000 bucks instead of the 3500 I see at Best Buy, I would fall all over myself with appreciation! Its like they expect you to do favors for them with nothing in return! [/QUOTE]Brother, that is a Red Flag. She should be cut from Team Bravo.

If you give a hen that lays golden eggs to a Brasilian, he / she will wait for an egg, then kill and eat the bird.

[QUOTE=Billn; 1160658]May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.

This is my first time posting on the board. I had not been to Rio in many years – around 15 years. I used to go with friends. Two weeks ago I went by myself. It was a 20 hour flight from San Francisco to Rio but I slept most of the time. I stayed at the Oceano Copacabana hotel.

[url]http://www.oceanohotel.com.br/[/url]

It was expensive but in a great location and the staff was friendly.

The first thing I noticed is Rio is much cleaner and has a safer feel about it, especially around Copa Cabana. I think the government is trying to prepare the city for the Olympics. The Favelas are still there but some locals told me that the government is working to try to make them better places to live with education programs, gyms, etc.

Day 1.

I pulled out my paper notes and maps from years ago and headed out to the termas. All three termas I used to visit were closed. Disappointed, I went back to my room. I called for an escort. The girl came late and tried to change the price before we even started so I paid for her cab and sent her on her way. Frustrated, I went out and had a couple of beers at the café around the corner.

Day 2.

Eager to get some action, I woke up early the next day and went to an internet café that I found advertised on a flyer. The internet café is on the 9th floor of a building. I did some searching around on the internet and came up with some terma names.

To pass the afternoon I decided to try my old dependable place – Vila mimosa. For those of you who don't know what Vila Mimosa is, it is a red light district. Around 1000 girls work there every day. When people on the board say VM they mean Vila Mimosa. The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.

Here is a map of the location:

[url]http://www.brazzilforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7959211[/url]

Immediately I noticed Vila mimosa has changed as well. Just like in the past, there were loads of girls. And just like in the past, VM has never been an upscale place. Even so, it is much more run down than it used to be. Also the girls look a little rougher than they did in times past. I saw more tattoos and I think the girls are bigger. They look more like gangster girls from MTV videos. I spoke with several girls and even though all were friendly, I did not find any I liked.

In the evening I went to Barbarela.

[url]http://www.telelistas.net/locais/barbarella-boite[/url]

+boates+Rio-de-janeiro+rj+145925708.

F-ing expensive. Every price I was quoted was around 200 to 300 US to go back to the hotel for a short session. The quality was not impressive.

I had Monte Carlo on the list.

[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/[/url]

But I decided to abandon it and re-think my strategy after such a string of failures.

Day 3.

The next morning I went to the internet café again. At the cafe I searched "Rio de janeiro termas" on Google.

This came up at the top of the list:

[url]http://www.adelatours.com[/url]

Apparently this company did Terma Tours. I tried to call the number on the website but no answer. I emailed and heard back right away. I booked the Terma tour through email and received an email for the starting location of the tour. I went to the starting location at 9:00 PM. Then the tour guide, code named "Bernie," showed up. As it turns out three other guys that were hanging around the meeting spot were also there for the tour.

We taxied to the first place called Max's. There was a nice selection of around 20 girls and the place was clean. The price was fair. I took a girl to the room and had a good experience. I am not demanding so a good blowjob and passionate pussy sex was enough for me. Next we taxied to another place around ten minutes away. Once again a nice selection of girls and a clean layout. I didn't do anything (too tired) but enjoyed looking. We did one more stop at a place called Leticia massagem. Fifteen girls and all mostly hot. Again, price was good. I did one more session and called it a night.

Day 4.

I went back to Leticia massagem the next night.

The rest of my time was devoted to business.

Food.

One thing that has not changed in Rio is the delicious food. Here are a few places where I ate like a king:

[url]http://www.porcao.com.br[/url]

[url]http://www.bobs.com.br/[/url]

[url]http://www.carretaochurrascaria.com.br/[/url]

Conclusion: Rio is huge and is changing. Vila mimosa is cheap but rough. The higher-end big named termas are too expensive. I didn't know about internationalsexguide. Info before I went.

Do your research first or get a guide or do both. Try to find the smaller establishments in between the name brand tourist traps and the dives. The middle establishments might not have the quantity, but many times they have better quality at a fair price. [/QUOTE]How much was the therma tour? Was it worth it? Would you have rather just used bubba guide?

Thank you for your report, Billn.
[QUOTE=Billn;1160658]The location of VM is next to a huge Favela.[/QUOTE]
It must be an invisible favela because I never noticed any huge favela next to VM.
[QUOTE=Billn;1160658]Here are a few places where I ate like a king:
[url]http://www.bobs.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]
Seriously, you must be joking.

[QUOTE=Billn;1160658]May 2011 trip to Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]Always good to get different perspectives on Rio. Did you pay the one or four person price for the tour? Looks to be about $100 USD for one and $35 for a group of four. I used to be critical of these "tour" operators but realize that it all depends on your comfort level. If they look out for you and help with translations $100 is a small price to pay for a good experience. Thanks for sharing. Agree with Sperto -- friends don't let friends eat at Bobs.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1160598]I swear, these girls must think we Americans are idiots! I had a GDP beg me to bring her a laptop because the one she had died. I told her "No problem! Send me 500 bucks and I will pick out a good one for you and carry it to brasil with me in July! I will even bring you the receipt so you will know I am not trying to make any money off of you!" This be*tch had the nerve to get upset and say "I can't believe you do not trust me! I will give you the money once you get here!"

I explained to her that I know at least 8 Americans who had brought things to Rio for the Brasilians to then claim that they didn't have the money or that they wanted a discount. Now mind you, this girl just came back from 3 months in Europe, so I am sure she made a boat load of euros while she was there and here she was complaining about sending me a lousy 500 dollars!

I explained to her that "You need to understand one thing, I am doing your ass a favor! I'm not getting anything out of this! I am helping you save alot of money because that laptop would cost you alot more money in Brasil! So either send me the money first, or call some other bobo to bring it down for you!" She proceeded to curse me out and say she didn't want my help! Man, these girls are so unappreciative! [/QUOTE]They are hoes man! She would rather suck your dick all day and swallow 2 buckets of cum for that laptop.

They don't advertise this very much, but it is posted on their website [url]http://www.clubcancun.com.br/home.html[/url] (See attachment). Hopefully this gives everyone a better idea of when it will be better to go since the entrance is actually applied towards consumption.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1159845]I can never work out the entrance at this place. Sometimes it is R$30, sometimes it is R$50, sometimes includes consumption, sometimes not. Very Brazilian way to price things![/QUOTE]