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You sounds like a guy, who just have to walk in to one the go-go's in Cowboy, Nana or Patpong, make your pick, talk a little bit to see if you think she's gonna give you what you want, and find your hotel together.
You can find the places on the maps.
Good luck, my friend
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Watch some of the 33 bars, some are known to pad the bill, add extra drinks, girls get drinks which you did not agree to. There was a list before posted that listed a few to watch, I know I never had a problem at Powleys, Office or LL with the bar bills.
Some others I had massive problems with before.[/QUOTE]
If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order.
I realise that this is a little obvious, but sometimes it needs to be reminded. I totally enjoyed my time at the end of last year in Bangkok and Pattaya but always kept a close eye on the tabs and paid as I went. Admittedly a bit more difficult when you're pissed and horny . . .
Just my 2c
Cheers
Expatcat
[QUOTE=Expatcat]If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order. [/QUOTE]
Well that's obvious... I've been going to Soi 33 for many years and just warned him which ones were usually / mostly / always for me on the up and up without coming out and publicly bashing places like Renoir and others... where I've had them try to play multiple games on the bills.
[QUOTE=Expatcat]If you are concerned with the joint padding the bill, why not just pay for each round as you get it. It may be a little more inconvenient, but it sure beats paying over the odds for drinks you don't get or didn't order.
I realise that this is a little obvious, but sometimes it needs to be reminded. I totally enjoyed my time at the end of last year in Bangkok and Pattaya but always kept a close eye on the tabs and paid as I went. Admittedly a bit more difficult when you're pissed and horny . . .
Just my 2c
Cheers
Expatcat[/QUOTE]
Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running.
HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running.
HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.[/QUOTE]Only ever once got ripped off for a meal, and only occasionally attempted overcharges by taxis. But then I am usually with a girl, and always keep a smile and my wits about me, and never think in terms of: "ditch the gash", "hoze", "street rif raf", "deaf aholes", "shit meals" and "generosity as weakness".
Somehow I feel the better for it.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Only ever once got ripped off for a meal, and only occasionally attempted overcharges by taxis. But then I am usually with a girl, and always keep a smile and my wits about me, and never think in terms of: "ditch the gash", "hoze", "street rif raf", "deaf aholes", "shit meals" and "generosity as weakness".
Somehow I feel the better for it.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that feels the same way you do.
Cheers
[QUOTE=David 2]I'm glad that I'm not the only one that feels the same way you do.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Fully agree David2 and Mouse1. You win some, you lose some but a laughter and bit of understanding of how much people can earn can go a long way. The same applies around the world. Worth trying for but not always easy. Sanuk, mai pen rai and khai na have real meaning in Thai attitudes. One girl I spent time with oked that Nana Plaza is named for the "na na" ("thick-skinned") farangs, to whom face means little.
SO8
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Before the food, beverage or service is served/rendered get a price. These people will demand 700bht on the bill in the end for a plate of stir fried vegetables you asked to accompany the 300bht red snapper you just got weighed&priced out of the tank. I had them once try to charge me the equiv of $20USD for a manicure for the pooying du jour on the beach at jomtien because I did not ask up front. I paid for the vegtables but not the manicure. Offered them 200 bht or nothing and there were no cops around so I skated for NOTHING. NEVER EAT ON SUK, because a fancy restauant is cheaper and the hoze and street rif raf will work you. The ho will order a 300bht bacardi cooler and you will end up with a $30USD bill for a shit meal and a couple of drinks. Better to ditch the gash and eat at Foodland alone. NEVER CLOSE A CAB DOOR, unless you know the driver can sah-peak angrit and acknowleges he knows where you want go go and the meter is running. HOWEVER, if the dude is on the level, I will pay double fare sometimes if it is a long ride in traffic (usually the case). The deaf aholes selling phony art on suk will point to their mouths for food after you buy art. I point at my groin while smiling and nodding. These people look at generosity as a weakness.[/QUOTE]Some good advice there, senor. The crack about the groin is too funny. LOL
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Nice footage. I love seeing farang getting their asses kicked by Thais.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I wonder why a jek twat would like to see white guys beaten up. . . I've seen Thais get thumped badly by farangs- once saw an Israeli guy pick up and piledrive headfirst into the concrete a dumbass Thai who believed too deeply in his magical Muay Thai powers. It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured (unless maybe you are a typically racist jek with a physical inferiority complex re white guys), but for newbies on the board the moral of that story (and of the video of the assholes getting thumped outside a Burger King in Samui- by the way, those responsible for bringing Burger King and other fast-food slop to Thailand should also get clobbered) is this: if you get into a physical altercation (and please try not to) with a Thai end it quickly if you can, because if you don't nearly every Thai male in the vicinity (and apparently otherwise cowardly jeks, too) will be looking to get the boot in on the farang. They won't know and won't care who is right or wrong. It is something every farang should see at least once, just so you can appreciate how the local boys really feel about the farang.
[QUOTE=Sanook D]It is something every farang should see at least once, just so you can appreciate how the local boys really feel about the farang.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, I've been at a party upcountry where some local boys were having a good time. I didn't notice anything different, but sometime after midnight the Thai lady I'm with frowns -- though the smiles and voices were the same, something bad was said. The next minute, the local boys have polarised into two sides, one guy is down, hit with a broken bottle, and being stomped into the ground. Another minute, and everyone vanishes into the night on their scooters, one side taking along stomped guy, who is now unconscious.
So I wouldn't feel particularly singled out, as farang, for whatever that is worth.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Some good advice there, senor. The crack about the groin is too funny. LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, absolutely hilarious. Worthy of Benny Hill himself.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]To be fair, I've been at a party upcountry where some local boys were having a good time. I didn't notice anything different, but sometime after midnight the Thai lady I'm with frowns -- though the smiles and voices were the same, something bad was said. The next minute, the local boys have polarised into two sides, one guy is down, hit with a broken bottle, and being stomped into the ground. Another minute, and everyone vanishes into the night on their scooters, one side taking along stomped guy, who is now unconscious.
So I wouldn't feel particularly singled out, as farang, for whatever that is worth.[/QUOTE]
Oh, absolutely, Thais will treat Thai adversaries with a similar lack of chivalry. The thing the farang has to understand is that unless he has some Thai mates with him, he is liable to find out that he is lined up on his own against every Thai in a 50-meter radius, unless there is a cop feeling an unusually strong sense of civic duty in the area. Fighting with the locals should be avoided, as frustrating as it can be to stand down when, for example, you see some Thai geezer smacking a girl around.
[QUOTE=Sanook D]Hmm, I wonder why a jek twat would like to see white guys beaten up. . . It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured [/QUOTE]
Because if your stupid enough to take on a thai, and the rest of the gang, then you deserve to get your ass kicked.
[QUOTE=Sanook D]It is never pretty to see someone, even an idiot, get badly injured [/QUOTE]
That's your opinion. I enjoy watching it, however.
Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it!
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it![/QUOTE]That's the key to all of this. You really have to go looking for trouble in Thailand to find it! Of course, the dodgy places in TH tend to attract dodgy people (Thai and [i]farang[/i]).
I've traveled all over Thailand the past few years and never had a problem with anyone. Occasionally, in tourist areas I get a little frustrated with touts, but I just remind myself they're only trying to make a baht and ignore them. And, when I drink in bars, due to years of practice, I don't become obnoxious.
Ever think that there are idiots out there (in TH) that provoke trouble just to capture it on video to post on YouTube? Never underestimate the *******es of the world.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]That's your opinion. I enjoy watching it, however.
Every Farang I've seen get beat up by a Thai in Thailand always provoked it![/QUOTE]You enjoy watching people get beaten up...sideline fighter are you? You quote "farang" as though you are ? what? Are you Thai? or are you one of those that thinks "farang" means white skin? How many "farangs" have you seen beaten up?