Manila

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1132323]I found a new bar in Manila last week, Angel BabyDolls and I will be checking it out this Saturday night and posting a report. Any guys who are in town who would like to check it out PM me.

Drinks were around 100P and LD's were 150P and barfine was 1500P. Last week I counted 25 girls and only two customers.

Robb[/QUOTE]Geez Robb, you going to share the location?

I will back to LA Cafe, now know as Bay Cafe in Ermita after being away for 2 years. The last time I was there, I paid max p2, 000 ST. Is this still the going rate, I do not want to overpay and drive the price up for the other guys. Never did LT there, but does anybody have price range for LT.

Also, I will stop over at EDSA, the last time the bar fine I paid was p1, 000 I do not recall what I paid the girl for ST. Anybody have feedback about the ST and LT rates at EDSA.

I will try for the first time Air Force One. I have no idea about the pricing, any feedback?

I know I am in the wrong post for this, but while I am on the price subject, what is the going bar fine and ST / LT rates for Angeles City these days? When I first went to Angeles City 16 years ago, man sex was dirt cheap there. Of course, over the years, guys from other countries have driven up the prices in Asia, I do not want to be one of those guys.

The great thing about PI is the girls speak English and there are always tons of new young girls (over 18) starting to work in the Bars everyday in PI.....young and dam cute with hot bodies. Now that the rules have improved for retirement in PI, I may consider retirement there. After being in Hong Kong for 10 years, I am sick of the overpricing and poor service. PI, here I come!

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1132064]I know the feeling is better with a girl or girls. But conversation can be lacking. I have lived in asia for about five years now so I am happy to meet up with english speaking guys to hang out and conversation.

My english skills are suffering and I don't speak any other language.[/QUOTE]I have been dreaming of living in Manila for a long time now. One of the ideas I came up with would be to organize an ISG party / barcrawl / happy hour type event. The idea would be have everyone meet at a place that is not crowded. Do some meet and greet, share stories, get to know others and go chase LBFM's after.

[QUOTE=Devils 1;1132621]I have been dreaming of living in Manila for a long time now. . . . . . .[/QUOTE]I have been working (and living of course) in the Phils for 13 years Devils and believe me mongering represents a very small fraction of the time that is spent here. Despite what you might think, you really do need other things to do and to keep you sane because there are so many things wrong with the country's infrastructure.

In my case it is total immersion in my work. Mongering represents a pleasant diversion.

For those of you who think that living here means long days of never-ending pussy then you need a re-think. You need cash back-up and robust health because you may find some issues with the level of health care, especially outside of the 3 major cities. Everyone will face health care issues some day, whether 5, 10 or 30 years hence.

[quote=undercoverh;1132568]i will back to la cafe, now know as bay cafe in ermita after being away for 2 years. the last time i was there, i paid max p2, 000 st. is this still the going rate, i do not want to overpay and drive the price up for the other guys. never did lt there, but does anybody have price range for lt.[/quote]since your last, i was getting st / 1000 and lt / 1500 in lac. same at g-point. at one point when it was closed, and every girl seemed to rep001ter to the wind, about 6 months ago, i walked into nearby southern cross hotel's bar. 1am. about half a dozen working girls, no guys. the girls were literally asleep or nearly asleep. they pepped up when i came in. i chatted with every girl, they were sitting together at tables."we need a work sir." "we disprit sir." "you want two girl?" "that girl real lesbian. she like lick a poosie." "500 peso only sir." they really were desperate. 4 of them were from cavite. i took one for p500 st. mostly i just wanted some pics of a fresh face in my camera. after we played for a while i showered; when i came out, she was sound asleep. i let her come down to the hotel breakfast in the morning, then we walked over to bayview park hotel and had starbucks. traded phone numbers and sent her on her way to the bus about 8:30 with p500+100 taxi.

for burgos and edsa, you are going to pay 2-4x these prices.

robinson's mall will net you p1000 st for an afternoon. a number of college girls from the two schools almost next door troll the place at times.

[quote=undercoverh;1132568]i know i am in the wrong post for this, but while i am on the price subject, what is the going bar fine and st / lt rates for angeles city these days? when i first went to angeles city 16 years ago, man sex was dirt cheap there. of course, over the years, guys from other countries have driven up the prices in asia, i do not want to be one of those guys.[/quote]barfine prices are about:

p3000 for several high-end bars on fields.

p1500-1800 for most regular bars.

p1200-1400 for bars out on perimeter road.

all of this is generally lt.

for the santos st bars (blow row) , you can get a bj for p700 in-house, or you can take the girl back to your room for 4 hours.

streetwalkers will perform for ridiculously small amounts, especially after 1am. careful the ladyboys.

[quote=westcoast1; 1132831]since your last, i was getting st / 1000 and lt / 1500 in lac. same at g-point. at one point when it was closed, and every girl seemed to rep001ter to the wind, about 6 months ago, i walked into nearby southern cross hotel's bar. 1am. about half a dozen working girls, no guys. the girls were literally asleep or nearly asleep. they pepped up when i came in. i chatted with every girl, they were sitting together at tables."we need a work sir." "we disprit sir." "you want two girl?" "that girl real lesbian. she like lick a poosie." "500 peso only sir." they really were desperate. 4 of them were from cavite. i took one for p500 st. mostly i just wanted some pics of a fresh face in my camera. after we played for a while i showered; when i came out, she was sound asleep. i let her come down to the hotel breakfast in the morning, then we walked over to bayview park hotel and had starbucks. traded phone numbers and sent her on her way to the bus about 8:30 with p500+100 taxi.

for burgos and edsa, you are going to pay 2-4x these prices.

robinson's mall will net you p1000 st for an afternoon. a number of college girls from the two schools almost next door troll the place at times.

barfine prices are about:

p3000 for several high-end bars on fields.

p1500-1800 for most regular bars.

p1200-1400 for bars out on perimeter road.

all of this is generally lt.

for the santos st bars (blow row) , you can get a bj for p700 in-house, or you can take the girl back to your room for 4 hours.

streetwalkers will perform for ridiculously small amounts, especially after 1am. careful the ladyboys. [/quote]pussy price will rise because we pay no matter what the cost, just like gasoline.

Have been traveling frequently to Manila for business and also frequenting the bar scene for quite some time now. But was getting tired of whole barfine scene. I guess after awhile all the bargirls start to look and feel the same. So 1 week before my next trip, I decided to set up a few dates and hope to strike it lucky. Searched the internet and found a few good online dating websites:

[url]www.philippineangles.com[/url]

[url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]

Hooked up with a few girls on these websites with the promise to meet them when I make my next trip to manila. Arrived here in Manila last Tuesday and met up with one of my dates "R" yesterday.

Met R at 7pm in Greenbelt 3 Starbucks. She was a little late due to the traffic and rain. It was ok, she had to travel all the way from Cavite to meet me and she looks really fine. Petite, slim, brown tan and long hair. And best of all an innocent smile. Had dinner at John and Yoko (she said she likes Japanese food) at Greenbelt 5. She was a little shy and quiet during dinner as she said I was the first foreigner guy that she as met. After dinner I asked if she wanted to follow me back to the hotel. And she said "ok"! Ha I was in business!

So we walked back to my hotel room. Talked a little and had a few san mig lights in the room. Decided to make my move and kissed her. She kissed back! Ha now I really knew I was in the business! The rest was a night of of absolute pleasure. There's something refreshing about R. I guess its because she was not a bar girl. The way she moans was more natural and love it when she digs her nails into my back as she comes. She even moans in tagalog, forgetting that my tagalog is not really good.

R left the morning. I left her with a little cash and promised to call her again before I leave. Which I definitely will. But I still need to hook up with two other on-line dates as well. I will be busy!

More to come.

[QUOTE=Nolz7;1132855]Pussy price will rise because we pay no matter what the cost, just like gasoline.[/QUOTE]Pussy prices hit an all time high from Tsunami scare. LOL

[QUOTE=Redsmurf; 1132923]Have been traveling frequently to Manila for business and also frequenting the bar scene for quite some time now. But was getting tired of whole barfine scene. I guess after awhile all the bargirls start to look and feel the same. So 1 week before my next trip, I decided to set up a few dates and hope to strike it lucky. Searched the internet and found a few good online dating websites:

[url]www.philippineangles.com[/url]

[url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]

Hooked up with a few girls on these websites with the promise to meet them when I make my next trip to manila. Arrived here in Manila last Tuesday and met up with one of my dates "R" yesterday.

Met R at 7pm in Greenbelt 3 Starbucks. She was a little late due to the traffic and rain. It was ok, she had to travel all the way from Cavite to meet me and she looks really fine. Petite, slim, brown tan and long hair. And best of all an innocent smile. Had dinner at John and Yoko (she said she likes Japanese food) at Greenbelt 5. She was a little shy and quiet during dinner as she said I was the first foreigner guy that she as met. After dinner I asked if she wanted to follow me back to the hotel. And she said "ok"! Ha I was in business!

So we walked back to my hotel room. Talked a little and had a few san mig lights in the room. Decided to make my move and kissed her. She kissed back! Ha now I really knew I was in the business! The rest was a night of of absolute pleasure. There's something refreshing about R. I guess its because she was not a bar girl. The way she moans was more natural and love it when she digs her nails into my back as she comes. She even moans in tagalog, forgetting that my tagalog is not really good.

R left the morning. I left her with a little cash and promised to call her again before I leave. Which I definitely will. But I still need to hook up with two other on-line dates as well. I will be busy!

More to come. [/QUOTE]Red, very nice. More please.

[QUOTE=Nolz7;1132855]Pussy price will rise because we pay no matter what the cost, just like gasoline.[/QUOTE]Have been having this conversation for several years now in LAC:

Me: I need for you to [X, Y, Z] (substitute your own needs)

Girl: ok its 3000 (or sometimes 2000 or 2500)

Me: 1500 and you stay till 10am and have breakfast with me.

Girl: ok two thousand five hundred.

I smile and stare at her for a moment.

Girl: ok 1500 we go.

Its fine if you pay more, as long as your OK with it. But 95% of the girls in those places are fine with 1500 for a two-pop LT. If you spend a month in Philippines, an extra p500/1000 nightly can add up to real money. About half the girls say yes to 1500 right up front, the other half ask more and then come down to it. Twice I've had girls walk away when I didn't budge from 1500.

In G-Point, there is no upsell. The girls never ask more than 1500. Some of the lesser (older, uglier) girls will go with you for 1000, and some will go with you for free (hoping for anything the next morning) just to sleep in your aircon place and not in her shithole.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1132968]Me: 1500 and you stay till 10am and have breakfast with me.[/QUOTE]Why do you want to have breakfast with her?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1132968]Have been having this conversation for several years now in LAC:

Me: I need for you to [X, Y, Z] (substitute your own needs)

Girl: ok its 3000 (or sometimes 2000 or 2500)

Me: 1500 and you stay till 10am and have breakfast with me.

Girl: ok two thousand five hundred.

I smile and stare at her for a moment.

Girl: ok 1500 we go.

Its fine if you pay more, as long as your OK with it. But 95% of the girls in those places are fine with 1500 for a two-pop LT. If you spend a month in Philippines, an extra p500/1000 nightly can add up to real money. About half the girls say yes to 1500 right up front, the other half ask more and then come down to it. Twice I've had girls walk away when I didn't budge from 1500.

In G-Point, there is no upsell. The girls never ask more than 1500. Some of the lesser (older, uglier) girls will go with you for 1000, and some will go with you for free (hoping for anything the next morning) just to sleep in your aircon place and not in her shithole.[/QUOTE]If I lived there I would have the same approach, but I DON'T. If you live there you can gamble w / your time and effort more. Say you negotiate your way out of something really good. You still have all the time in the world for your next shot at a 7 or higher. If I am there for 10 days it's easy to gamble my time w / a 5, a 6 or even 7's in looks as I will get what I want because there are tons of 5 and 6's, just keep shopping. But if you are dealing w / 7's and up that may be your only shot that night for that kind of woman. I will pay the price because I want it and I want her to be happy or should I say content. Living there gives you the psychological advantage of knowing you will have many more opportunities. Fuck. Who doesn't like a good deal. These constant debates about price are a apple and oranges comparision. There is no comparison, just like there are no 10's, (in looks that is). Get it while you can, that's my 2 pesos.

[QUOTE=Banana Man;1133069]Why do you want to have breakfast with her?[/QUOTE]It is just to entice her to stay till 10 am as promised, I believe.

In reality many of these girls are least bothered about hotel buffett breakfast. Philippinas as I know them like to eat small meals many times a day rather than have three big meals a day.

IN LAC or MBC it all depends on the time of day you want to take her. Later the time the better is the chance of them agreeing to less money and they will stay till morning. In Manila they do not want to be walking alone at night. Police are always on the lookout for single women walking to extort money.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1133078]It is just to entice her to stay till 10 am as promised, I believe.[/QUOTE]Not quite. I just like banging them in the morning and taking them to breakfast. Not unlike gf's here.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1133078]IN LAC or MBC it all depends on the time of day you want to take her. Later the time the better is the chance of them agreeing to less money and they will stay till morning.[/QUOTE]Yes. There is much less chance she will agree to 10am if it is 7pm in the evening. By 11pm however, it is my experience that they will. Those who refuse almost always have kids they have to get home to early in the morning prior to school, or a day job. If she does not have such an obligation, she may well hang with you into the afternoon.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1133078]In Manila they do not want to be walking alone at night. Police are always on the lookout for single women walking to extort money.[/QUOTE]Quite right. I have posted on the board about girls from G-Point who are wanting to get to LAC, a few blocks away. They will latch on to your arm (or taxi) if they find out you are heading over. WAWF (Walking Alone While Female haha) late night in Malate can get you a shake-down for pesos by the cops or an evening in the hoo-skow.

After specializing in Thailand for many years, I will be going to Manila for the first time in late April. I'm interested in meeting good-looking girls with good personalities that I can have a good conversation with and go out to dinner-maybe spend a few days with. Students would be great as long as they give good service. From time to time, I'll see a post in the PI forum about students or other young women who are interested in meeting foreigners or there wll be recommendations from ISG members who found young women who gave great service and were good-looking. I am middle-aged, a gentleman and in good physical condition. I am also fairly generous (although not a free-spender). If any of you have a recommendation for me or would like to make a recommendation, I would appreciate it. Please PM me.

Thank you,

Canyon