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[QUOTE=RedKilt;2125281]Landmark beats all others hands down for me. Location and quality suits me just fine.[/QUOTE]Grand Swiss is another good hotel if your budget doesn't allow you to stay at Landmark. Nice hotel with a good breakfast and great location. You can get a nice room with a view for 80-90 USD / night. I have stayed there many times. Hardly see any Indians or Arabs there.
[QUOTE=BobLou;2124868]Only if breakfast is inclusive then and then only they ask for double occupancy charges.[/QUOTE]Many hotels serve inclusive breakfast only to the guest / s who are registered at the time of check-in. If you book a room for double occupancy but check-in single, they will allow a joiner without charge but if you take your overnight girl for breakfast they will charge.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2125417]You are absolutely right. I stayed there only once and regretted my choice. Even though I am an Indian I avoid typical hotels like Ambassador & Grand President preferred by indians. Indians, especially youngsters in a group or families with kids are a pain. Indians, Pakistanis and Arabs are noisy, pushy and misbehave at times. Sad to say this about my fellow countrymen but it is a fact.[/QUOTE]Yup, we agree completely. The problem is that the Indians and Arabs that stay there are lower middle class and do not have the educate. It is a cultural thing and for the price and the quantity of food is acceptable. I've learned that other hotels are much better if out of the lower Soi's.
RL.
To Robert Long & Mumbai Guy and anyone thinking of staying in Lower Sukhumvit, I have stayed at the Fraser on Soi 11 many, many times in the past. I liked the hotel because it's very affordable 4. 2-star luxury, the 1-bedroom suites are very large and comfortable, priced very competitively in the contemporary BKK market, the Hotel staff is super friendly, the hotel is extremely GF, and the location on Soi 11 is also very good for our common sport. I also enjoyed hanging out by their small, but usually quiet swimming pool on hot BKK afternoons.
The downside was always the unfriendly, up tight, smelly middle eastern female hotel guests. But they were more a joke than anything else up until my last stay at the Fraser when they became too much to deal with mainly due to their rudeness and their habit on Saturday and Sunday afternoons when they would let their young kids (a lot of young kids) run wild and take over the outdoor patio and swimming pool area which made it impossible for me and my sexy Thai friends to relax and have a good time there.
The typical scenario I encountered was the mother or mothers wrapped head to foot in a wool blanket would stay in the air-conditioned restaurant letting her kids run amok outside by the pool. Other hotel guests (Westerners) were forced to put up with the resulting chaos and commotion and on more than one occasion I was forced to tell the children not to splash or yell so loud around me. It did no good of course until I raised my voice and became the pool disciplinarian. Then one of the fathers came over to me and said I was not a polite man. I told him if he took better care of his kids I wouldn't have had to say anything to them.
On another occasion, a Muslim looking male guest came over near where my girls and I were lounging and drinking Tequila and gave us the stare for a prolonged period of time like we should get the fuck out. I looked him straight in the eye and asked if he had a problem and he walked away.
Anyway, I estimate that at least 50% of the guests that now stay at the Fraser are middle eastern Muslim and it's too much for me. I have had enough. 555! From now on, I won't stay anywhere lower than Soi 19. There are plenty of very good hotel selections at various price points, the restaurants are better as well as the neighborhood. Examples: Soi 19 (Grand Mercure), Soi 23 (Admiral Premier), Soi 27 (Radisson Blu), Soi 24 (Marriott Exec Apartments, Hyatt Place, Hilton), Soi 29 (Mermaid), Soi 57 (Marriott Exec Apartments) etc.
I am sorry if this post offends anyone. Not really, because I find large numbers (not all) of these middle eastern people to be very crude and low class. They are also very inconsiderate and completely oblivious of their own rude behavior or more likely just don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. Here is another example: I went to breakfast one morning while staying at the Fraser. I put down my newspaper and reading glasses at a table near the window and walked over to the buffet table. When I returned to my table an older Muslim woman all decked out head to foot had taken my table. I politely informed her that she was sitting at my table and pointed out my paper and glasses still on the table. Her response was No, this is my table. So I left her with a little verbal hand grenade and took a table on the other side of the dining room as far as I could get from that smelly cunnt!
But who cares. I now choose to avoid them and the hotels they frequent, thus removing them as a group from my radar screen. The Thais put up with them to a certain degree because it is profitable for them to do so. I don't have to put up with them so I won't.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2125424]Many hotels serve inclusive breakfast only to the guest / s who are registered at the time of check-in. If you book a room for double occupancy but check-in single, they will allow a joiner without charge but if you take your overnight girl for breakfast they will charge.[/QUOTE]For those looking to 'grab' breakfast and head back up to the room with a plate for your guest I would highly suggest staying at Aspen suites on Soi 2. The breakfast seating is 15 feet from the elevator and your fridge can easily hold the food for your guest when she wakes up. Or if your coming back after a late night and know you'll miss the free breakfast you can always grab a plate before hitting the sack.
Are there any overnight hotels in Bangkok with mirrors and maybe stripper poles in the room? Being surrounded by mirrors would be ideal.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2125468]
The downside was always the unfriendly, up tight, smelly middle eastern female hotel guests. But they were more a joke than anything else up until my last stay at the Fraser when they became too much to deal with mainly due to their rudeness and their habit on Saturday and Sunday afternoons when they would let their young kids (a lot of young kids) run wild and take over the outdoor patio and swimming pool area which made it impossible for me and my sexy Thai friends to relax and have a good time there.
But who cares. I now choose to avoid them and the hotels they frequent, thus removing them as a group from my radar screen. The Thais put up with them to a certain degree because it is profitable for them to do so. I don't have to put up with them so I won't.[/QUOTE]You should have sat down put your glasses on and started reading the newspaper. Ha ha! Such an impolite man! LOL I am not sure I would have put up with their shit.
I guess you are indirectly not recommending the Fraser.
I hate family Hotels, Chinese tours, Hallal Hotels etc.
It's nice to have a serenely quiet hassle free Hotel.
One of my quite bad experiences was in Thai Hotel, Dinsor road, Banglampoo (vicinity) many years ago. Room near to mine was having a party, and bottles would crash to the floor every so often keeping me awake (no carpet I think). Finally the party ended, and shortly the Hotel's roosters started crowing at maybe 5 AM. I decided to kill the roosters, if getting a chance.
Amazing how Thais can stand to live of stay near locations very noisy at 5 am in the morning, like next to markets.
Mr. Natty Bumpo.
Please pick up a white courtesy phone for a message.
And while you're at it, clean out your in box.
Bunky.
Have booked into Citadines on suk Soi 11 they advised guests are ok so will report back.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2125468]
The typical scenario I encountered was the mother or mothers wrapped head to foot in a wool blanket would stay in the air-conditioned restaurant letting her kids run amok outside by the pool. Other hotel guests (Westerners) were forced to put up with the resulting chaos and commotion and on more than one occasion I was forced to tell the children not to splash or yell so loud around me. [/QUOTE]I know children can be a PITA sometimes but geez mate, they are in a swimming pool. What do you expect? Let them play.
Or could you not stand the splashing and yelling because you had a hangover?
And almost all children behave like that in a swimming pool. Not just muslim children.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2125468]To Robert Long & Mumbai Guy and anyone thinking of staying in Lower Sukhumvit, I have stayed at the Fraser on Soi 11 many, many times in the past. I liked the hotel because it's very affordable 4. 2-star luxury, the 1-bedroom suites are very large and comfortable, priced very competitively in the contemporary BKK market, the Hotel staff is super friendly, the hotel is extremely GF, and the location on Soi 11 is also very good for our common sport. I also enjoyed hanging out by their small, but usually quiet swimming pool on hot BKK afternoons.
The downside was always the unfriendly, up tight, smelly middle eastern female hotel guests. But they were more a joke than anything else up until my last stay at the Fraser when they became too much to deal with mainly due to their rudeness and their habit on Saturday and Sunday afternoons when they would let their young kids (a lot of young kids) run wild and take over the outdoor patio and swimming pool area which made it impossible for me and my sexy Thai friends to relax and have a good time there.
The typical scenario I encountered was the mother or mothers wrapped head to foot in a wool blanket would stay in the air-conditioned restaurant letting her kids run amok outside by the pool. Other hotel guests (Westerners) were forced to put up with the resulting chaos and commotion and on more than one occasion I was forced to tell the children not to splash or yell so loud around me. It did no good of course until I raised my voice and became the pool disciplinarian. Then one of the fathers came over to me and said I was not a polite man..[/QUOTE]I agree. Large groups of Middle Eastern families do not fit in or try to fit in. I also try to stay away from Hotels they frequent in large numbers.
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And almost all children behave like that in a swimming pool. Not just muslim children.[/QUOTE]True, if the children are left unsupervised by negligent parents. False, if the children are properly supervised. I have spent enough time in hotel swimming pools to notice the difference in behaviors as well as take note of the nationalities involved. My findings are all nationalities have some examples of the guilty parties and bad parentage, but the Arab & Chinese families appear to be the main perpetrators. This is not a statistical study, just my observations over the years.
It is the same thing in restaurants. Some parents let their children scream and act up in restaurants, quality restaurants, completely ignoring their anti-social behavior. Others do not.
Whatever happened to the idea that children should be seen not heard. I guess I am old school and firmly believe that when a child starts to act up in a social setting like a swimming pool or restaurant, the parents should do something about it including removing the child from the situation when all else fails. Some parents follow this precept. Unfortunately, many do not.
I don't know about you and your upbringing, but my parents never permitted my sister or I to go wild in a public setting. From an early age on I was taught to behave properly in restaurants and hotel swimming pools like the Eden Roc & Fontainebleau in Miami and when I didn't behave, look out! LOL.
Perhaps I did not describe the situation at the Fraser well enough for you. The weekend Muslim kids were screaming, running around and continually bumping into my lounge chair before I was forced to speak up and act as the disciplinarian. They were throwing decorative rocks into the swimming pool. A destructive behavior. And might I remind you that this is a private pool in a somewhat upscale 4 star plus hotel. Not romper room! As a result, I did not book with Fraser for my next trip even though they offered me a great rate of $78/ night including breakfast for a balcony superior 80 sq meter room. If the kid situation I described above does not bother you, then I recommend that you stay here. Like I said previously, it is a very friendly, GF hotel. The smelly Muslim women hotel guests will shun you and your female friends and not get into the same elevator car with you, but who cares about that. That is humorous. Many nights my girls and I would laugh between ourselves and hold our noses after we got into the eleavator just after a bunch of Muslim women had left it. Even the Fraser lobby stank on some nights. Culture clash!
Yes, and don't forget airplanes. I hate it when the rugrats relentlessly kick the back of my seat and shrill incessantly. Poor parenting. Confrontation required.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2125752]True, if the children are left unsupervised by negligent parents. False, if the children are properly supervised.
It is the same thing in restaurants. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2125701]I know children can be a PITA sometimes but geez mate, they are in a swimming pool. What do you expect? Let them play.
Or could you not stand the splashing and yelling because you had a hangover?
And almost all children behave like that in a swimming pool. Not just muslim children.[/QUOTE]Gross Generalization. Sorry my experience reinforces NB view. I have seen many an instance of Arab, Chinese and Sub continent people and / or children displaying behaviour that would be considered rude and lacking regard for others.
I am constantly amazed how esp parents of these groups stand by and let their kids yell, scream, hit and generally run amuck in a public place oblivious to the rights of others.
Now I know how most Caucasians would respond to their children displaying this behaviour. Embarrassment and a scolding. But how do you respond " because you had a hangover?
Go on call me a racist or something like that. And then go read the section in the Quranic Verses on child upbringing.
And you wonder why you are so quick to rationalize NB comments and be so defensive by making sweeping generalizations. As Jack said " You want the truth. We all know the rest.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2125532]Are there any overnight hotels in Bangkok with mirrors and maybe stripper poles in the room? Being surrounded by mirrors would be ideal.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]On reflection I'll look into it for you.