Rio de Janeiro Reports

Many of us are complaining about how Rio has become expensive. Maybe we should feel sorry for the Copa-GP's instead?

Many GP's working in Copabana are of a strange breed. They might live in a favela in Zona Norte. They have almost never visited Copa, except on occassional Domingo when they took the metro to Copa and had a farofa-festa on the beach. They have never had any contact at all with gringos. They have one or two kids. The father has left long ago and pays no support. Life is tough. Their options are few. Honest hard work might not be appealing. Selling their p***y seems more tempting. Working at Vila Mimosa for R$25 is too hard, as the local VM-customers are demanding and wants completa-service. Working in a privê is to much competition.

What to do? They hear a story about a beautiful friend of theirs who was doing tricks in Copa and earned lots of money selling sex to gringos. Earning lots of money with little work sounds interesting. As a result the girls buy themselfes some plastic hair extension and a new dress and head to Copa. They end up in Balcony. Back in Zona Norte they would be happy if a local paid R$30 for a programma. Suddenly they are in heaven as they can charge R$300. Being beautiful isn't necessary. There are always some drunk gringos that get overwhelmed by a smiling girl eager to satisfy their sexual needs. If the girl is smart she realize that she can do four customers per night if she lower her rate to R$150. However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.

Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she excepted. The gringos are few. In the "old days" when the dollar was strong and Help, Meia Pataca and ho-beach were busy, there were lots of gringos. Many were big spenders and payed whatever the girls asked for and even tipped the GP's. Now, with the weak dollar, the gringos think twice before they overpay.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1162377]However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.

Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she expected. [/QUOTE]Yes, greed. If they charged R$300 per day and give true bareback GFE everything I'd keep a single girl for up to a week and treat her very well, better than her favelado treats her. Then according to your assumptions, she is making about twice what she'd make in Copa. The first few trips to Rio are like pussy safari. After that, I think some of us want to just enjoy the city and good GFE a few times per day with a strange girl. I've yet to find that opportunity for a steady ho or non-pro, so I spend all my time looking for 2-3 girls / day to bang. The result is that I run myself ragged after ST girls, when all I want to do is relax and get off 2-3 times per day with strange. I enjoy Rio, love the normal people and culture and want to spend all my time in that, but due to the the way the girls operate, I spend most of my time chasing pussy, and go home exhausted from all the long days and nights of aparto-aparto and termas-termas. I'm wondering if people who are already experienced on Sperto's list and Bubbas guide places should branch out, try other place like suburban malls for semi-pros. Think Jakarta, Cebu City style mall mongering.

Where is it possible in Rio for a semi-frequent visitor to pickup semi-pro for extended relax, so you can just enjoy the city without playing the cash games of Zona Sul and Centro hardcores? For people who stay months at a time, or people who come every couple months, or spend inordinate amounts of time on cupid sites, it's easy to find semi or non-pro. But for those who come for a week, annually or bi-annually, what are the best chances (outside Lapa one-night stands) to pick semi-normal girls who just want a little gift and to be treated very well, in exchange for a week or 2 of GFE and some companionship around town? As it stands right now, I've been to at least 80% of the casas ever mentioned here, and speak intermediate Porto conversationally, so thinking that I should step up to the next level and find a girl that is not a pro-ho, but that does what I want and keep her for a week when I visit so I can relax and enjoy Rio. Quality over quantity. I can think of girls at Flavia and Bar 22 that I wanted to keep but didn't, due to thinking about numbers. Wrong approach! Now I spend a lot of time interviewing, trying to find similar real wanton GFE girls, but did not find any on the last trip! I'm sure others are at that point of wanting to step up to the next level, to locate a GFE girl somehow fast and stick with her services, but know she is rare and not sure how how to find her in the first few days of of a trip. Please advise on that.

That there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of GDP's in Brazil. People don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave GDPs any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. Locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as Help (RIP). Remember that place? So, I am going to guess that Balcony IS going to be that next place to shutdown, I am 99. 9% sure it is just a matter of time.

Sao Paolo has its group of places that caters to the foreign and the well healed: Cafe Photo, W Garden, They will gladly take the BR700 to BR800 (If you include the entrance) for a very short time (One pop as mentioned by some of the gals) for the same skanks that people in the know will do for less than half and in a bunch of cases less than 25% in their apartments in Moema, Consolasao, Villa Olimpia or wherever they stay. In their apartments you can stay for one and a half, two hours, get multiple pops and no rush service.

As guests is someone elses' yard, we need to FOLLOW what the locals do. We have introduced some bad habits to some nice local places like tipping at the local Termas, even among the cashiers and doormen, (Yes, I'm guilty of that bad habit too) , but what annoys locals the most is the way us outsiders threw around or used to without thinking of who it will affect later down the road. Now we are all complaining about high prices in Copacabana, Ipanema, Sao Paulo, Fortaleza, Brazil. Geez, fellas, I wonder why?

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1162377]Many of us are complaining about how Rio has become expensive. Maybe we should feel sorry for the Copa-GP's instead?

Many GP's working in Copabana are of a strange breed. They might live in a favela in Zona Norte. They have almost never visited Copa, except on occassional Domingo when they took the metro to Copa and had a farofa-festa on the beach. They have never had any contact at all with gringos. They have one or two kids. The father has left long ago and pays no support. Life is tough. Their options are few. Honest hard work might not be appealing. Selling their p*why seems more tempting. Working at Vila Mimosa for R$25 is too hard, as the local VM-customers are demanding and wants completa-service. Working in a privê is to much competition.

What to do? They hear a story about a beautiful friend of theirs who was doing tricks in Copa and earned lots of money selling sex to gringos. Earning lots of money with little work sounds interesting. As a result the girls buy themselfes some plastic hair extension and a new dress and head to Copa. They end up in Balcony. Back in Zona Norte they would be happy if a local paid R$30 for a programma. Suddenly they are in heaven as they can charge R$300. Being beautiful isn't necessary. There are always some drunk gringos that get overwhelmed by a smiling girl eager to satisfy their sexual needs. If the girl is smart she realize that she can do four customers per night if she lower her rate to R$150. However most Copa GP's are not smart, they are lazy and greedy. They think it's better to stick to their rate of R$300, even if it only means one customer every second night. If the business is going really bad they might even raise the price to R$400.

Unless the girl is exceptional beautiful she propably gets disappointed very soon of her new life as a Copa-GP. The golden stories she heard about easy money selling sex to gringos in Copa are not what she excepted. The gringos are few. In the "old days" when the dollar was strong and Help, Meia Pataca and ho-beach were busy, there were lots of gringos. Many were big spenders and payed whatever the girls asked for and even tipped the GP's. Now, with the weak dollar, the gringos think twice before they overpay. [/QUOTE]

[quote=voyajer1; 1162500]that there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of gdp's in brazil. people don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave gdps any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as help (rip).

as guests is someone elses' yard, we need to follow what the locals do. we have introduced some bad habits to some nice local places like tipping at the local termas, even among the cashiers and doormen, (yes, i'm guilty of that bad habit too) , but what annoys locals the most is the way us outsiders threw around or used to without thinking of who it will affect later down the road. now we are all complaining about high prices in copacabana, ipanema, sao paulo, fortaleza, brazil. geez, fellas, i wonder why? [/quote]but this happens all around the world. take a peek in the bangkok and manila threads. you can't tell a grown man what to do with his money. especially the ones with more money than sense. you will get scoffed at in most forums for even mentioning the possiblility of the market being ruined because of guys throwing money around. but as you said, rio stands as a prime example of that exact thing happening. if regular prices are x but you have half the people always willingly giving x+100 then of course they are going to adjust the normal prices to x+100 because that is what many people were paying anyway. maybe the mongers did not feel it much before, but now that the exchange rate has reversed we have in essence fucked ourselves (no pun intended).

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1162395]Now I spend a lot of time interviewing, trying to find similar real wanton GFE girls, but did not find any on the last trip! I'm sure others are at that point of wanting to step up to the next level, to locate a GFE girl somehow fast and stick with her services, but know she is rare and not sure how how to find her in the first few days of of a trip. Please advise on that.[/QUOTE]IT isn't about stepping up to the next level. What you need to do is go back to a previous level, retrace your steps back to before you got to the point where what you do is pay girls to have sex with you. Be the person you used to be, and you'll find your 'namorada do programa. ' If you haven't taken care of yourself and you're livin in a distended, out-of-shape body nearing expiration date, at least you're in a country with a lot of poor girls and you can use money to help them fall in love with you (for a week or so). No need to interview, just have fun with them.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1162604]IT isn't about stepping up to the next level. What you need to do is go back to a previous level, retrace your steps back to before you got to the point where what you do is pay girls to have sex with you. Be the person you used to be, and you'll find your 'namorada do programa. ' If you haven't taken care of yourself and you're livin in a distended, out-of-shape body nearing expiration date, at least you're in a country with a lot of poor girls and you can use money to help them fall in love with you (for a week or so). No need to interview, just have fun with them.[/QUOTE]Actually I'm probably younger than most people here and in average shape. I have all I need at home for 'free' but enjoy girls of other colors and nationalities, and to want to meet the most whorish types of girls. The more wanton the girl , the more I like her. Which is why I keep screwing that crazy loira Bella, that can be found in Club Florida during their hours or outside Bar Florida on off-hours, on every trip because she is 100% alley cat, out there wandering like an animal in heat, always on booty duty. Girls like that don't want to hook up for LT. The root of the problem is that I don't get to spend more than a week at a time. By the time that I find a girl that does real GFE and willing to do LT, that's like day 5 and almost time to go home. Then I return 6 months later and all the faces have changed, almost all girls vaporize back into the general population within that time, so there is no history to build on. Even termas girls are becoming conservative. In my February field report, I reported that I ended a session early and got a half-refund at Luomo because a girl was cum dodging. That's not the first girl at Luomo who has refused BBBJWCIM. I think CIM is fairly basic service at those prices, so I was not about to tolerate anything less and fought the good fight at the front desk, in a polite manner of course. These people know that gringos talk amongst ourselves, and make allowances so we don't trash-talk them too much. I can say that Luomo has some girls that don't meet expectations, but they will make concessions for another girl or a partial refund if you are unsatisfied. That said, I've only gone there on Sundays because Centro is shutdown, and will try Balcony the next time for my Sunday action.

As for a time when I didn't pay for it...hmm. I am of the mindset that pussy is never free. I don't remember a time when a girl didn't want some kind of compensation. Usually dinner, movies, something like that. The only difference between a date, GF, or wife and and the WG is that the WG takes her cash directly whereas the others take their compensation in goods or services. So technically, it's free for me at home. But the costs are indirect. I'd like to hear about sometime when a guy didn't have to compensate a girl. Maintaining a GF or wife costs more than hiring WG's. Cost of drinks at bars to pick up freebies can be high at home, more than a BR WG. The guys who are getting freebies in BR are typically shelling out for Victoria's Secret, Porcao dinners, etc. In my country, even at gangbangs at ABS or Swing Clubs, the girl does her thing free, cause she's thinks that she's being badass and giving a bunch of cocks (that's us, 'cocks') shelter under her black wings, but it's still not free cause the venue makes sure that you have to pay an entrance fee to play. Even if the girl doesn't receive compensation, someone is always standing in the middle to make money off her pussy somehow. If anyone can report totally free sex without some kind of expense, PM me with that story.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1162500]That there were too many fools, er, smart folk responsible for screwing up the price structure of GDP's in Brazil. People don't realize that there is a pecking order in a society and we, the outsiders who gave GDPs any price they asked, were just f*cking up the pecking order. Locals paid these skanks what 10% of what us foreigners were paying them in venues such as Help (RIP). Remember that place? So, I am going to guess that Balcony IS going to be that next place to shutdown, I am 99. 9% sure it is just a matter of time.
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I agree with you on paying the lowest rate possible. But these Zona Sul places are tourist traps and local mongers don't go to those places anyway, They hang out in Centro, Largo do Machado, Tijuca. These casas are flat price, not negotiable. The prices posted on the sites are the same as reported on GPguia and here. When you go there , you wait behind local mongers, because everyone is on equal footing.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1163055]I have all I need at home for 'free' .[/QUOTE]You have all the girls you want at home and you realize that you've got to pick up the tabs along the way. So, what's the problem? Think women aren't the same the world over? You only get what you play for.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1162395]Where is it possible in Rio for a semi-frequent visitor to pickup semi-pro for extended relax, so you can just enjoy the city without playing the cash games of Zona Sul and Centro hardcores? For people who stay months at a time, or people who come every couple months, or spend inordinate amounts of time on cupid sites, it's easy to find semi or non-pro. But for those who come for a week, annually or bi-annually, what are the best chances (outside Lapa one-night stands) to pick semi-normal girls who just want a little gift and to be treated very well, in exchange for a week or 2 of GFE and some companionship around town? .[/QUOTE]My frequency of trips and duration are similar to yours. 2X a year each 10 days.

From 2004 to 2009 I used match. Com by signing up a few months before a trip and scanning the women in Rio and contacting many of them. Used instant messenger to communicate with them and right before I was ready to leave for my trip I usually narrowed down my choices to 10 women.

When I arrived I tried to pick my favorites first asking them to go out on my first night and work my way through the list. Usually if my first choice was a hit I would ask them out again and score or keep moving down the list. I have to say I always met nice women who were open to having sex. Of course I met some who didn't but for the most part I scored more than I didn't.

I haven't done it in a couple of years I guess the novelty wore off and it can be a lot of work. Actually the last girl I met was really nice and I didn't have sex with her but later we planned to go to Buzios for a week but she told me she is serious and wants to get married, no bull shit. I cancelled the trip and instead went to Help every night. I haven't done it since. But when I did do it overall I had a great time and it was worth the effort but sometimes you find yourself going all over town meeting these girls and taking them out.

One girl I met in 2004 told me she was looking for only a serious relationship, we chatted online for 3 years before I met her finally she just said to me we are friends and I'll fuck you just for fun, she was the first girl who brought me to the swing club in Rio.

Same with another girl I met online in 2005, went to dinner with her but didn't see her again until 2009 when I asked her online if she had anything to drink in her apt and she said Champagne, I said can I come over, she said sure, I drank her whole bottle of Champagne and nailed her twice then went to Help and picked up another one.

I had a fun time doing it but been there done that, maybe I'll try it again some day when I get bored with what I'm doing now.

I have a friend who used to work in a strip club. We have never met but just been introduced by a friend here on ISG. I was going to go and visit and 6 months ago she was still available.

She's had a baby about a year ago or more. The guy is older than her. She's been working as a beauty model shooting pictures. So 6 months ago she was still working. In March she married. I asked her recently and she said that she is no longer working.

Just like to ask if this is common? And can I expect her to be available in the future? I heard that once a girl has worked, she will always be like this even after marriage. Whats your opinions on this?

I intend to keep in touch wiht her in case she becomes available again?

[QUOTE=Droplet;1164167]I heard that once a girl has worked, she will always be like this even after marriage. Whats your opinions on this?[/QUOTE]This is just a myth. Most girls, when they meet a guy will just disappear never to be heard from again. Most will cease to have any contact with all of their clients. Most just want to forget that they ever worked.

A small percentage of them will keep seeing clients, mainly the really hardcore group. A slighter higher number will keep in contact with some of their ex clients. Again mainly the harder core group that lived in Copa. Most of the girls that I tend to meet these days are from centro and are just girls from poor backgrounds with semi normal lives, when these girls meet a guy they really disappear back to the area they came from and really want to forget that they ever worked.

The matter of if they will reappear is a different subject. Probably greater than half of all marriages will fail. They may or not reappear in the future.

When you say a percentage will keep in touch with ex-clients, you don't mean that they will sleep with them for money right? Keeping in touch just means keeping in touch and nothing else.

This girl had a baby last September. She was still working in January. I think she got married in March. And now 6 months later she's not working. She is now working in a modelling agency.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1164333]This is just a myth. Most girls, when they meet a guy will just disappear never to be heard from again. Most will cease to have any contact with all of their clients. Most just want to forget that they ever worked.

A small percentage of them will keep seeing clients, mainly the really hardcore group. A slighter higher number will keep in contact with some of their ex clients. Again mainly the harder core group that lived in Copa. Most of the girls that I tend to meet these days are from centro and are just girls from poor backgrounds with semi normal lives, when these girls meet a guy they really disappear back to the area they came from and really want to forget that they ever worked.

The matter of if they will reappear is a different subject. Probably greater than half of all marriages will fail. They may or not reappear in the future. [/QUOTE]

Hi,

I was in Rio in March (sorry for late report, and sorry for my english, I'm french)

I would to thanks sexmachine (ISG member) to introduce me in great places! Weather was terrible! 10 days of syn with 30-40 °C every days!

The first day, we go to Monte Carlo. Very nice place, juste a little tiny and music a little bit too loud. First contact with girls : Waoooow yes! I'm in Brazil! Around 12 girls and 8 very beautiful (medium and fine ass, and 1 or 2 big ass). During my friend go for a shower (he comes back from 4x4) , I have wait her in a part of Monte Carlo. I don't know where it was, but there is a black girl and a maid. The black girl with street dress (really beautiful one) start to speak me (she speaks english) and ask me question : Name? From? First time? And say to me she find me really beautiful! I'm surprised because I see her with street dress, so I ask to her if she works her? She responds me yes, but start later and ask me if I can wait for her in the main place were girls are.

I think it was it's first day at MC (but not in termas for sure.) and wait for boss or contract? I don't know.

I have wait her for 45 min, but impossible to wait more time with all these looking for me, come to speak, come to kiss me, and someones put their tongue everywhere around my lips.

First I was shy, because I only know termas of Europe (Spain, Germany.) and the rules are : if you touch the girls, you start the sessions.

My friend explain me you can touch girls everywhere, French kiss, or kiss tits, and not engage the session and choose another one! WOOOOW it's so goood! He explains me brazilian girls are really different than europe. They like their jobs, like give and receive pleasure!

For my first session, I would choose a typical brazilian bunda, but I was affraid of that! And after reflexion I choose a fine ass blond girl. (don't remember his name but his photo is on the gallery post by another member) very intelligent (speaks english and spanish very good). Session was ok. No anal but very tight pussy and she speaks me in porto during I fuck her : Gostoso. Don't know other words. Very GFE, and for sure if I would to ask her to take a drinks and see her in another place, she will be ok.

When I come back to the place, I go to TV saloon to follow amical football (France. Brazil). We win, but brazil team is compose with only rookies (no famous player as neymar, robinho, alves.). I wome back to see if there is new girls and I can notice black brazilian girls are the most HOT! One start to speak me (but she only speak portuguese) and she take my cock and after excite me, and look for size, I can understand : good big size but no problem I can take all on my mouth. She starts to simulate an orgasm and show me she would like have my sperm everywhere! She start to take out one of this tits of his bra and invite me to lick it!

The little young and shy man I'm is completely terrified! Wooow I have ear many things about brazilian girls. But now, these girls come from another planet!

After she returns, and rub his ass on my cock!

I decide to not continue because I want keep my money for others termas.

Evening, we go to Balcony. 20 girls in first, and 40/60 girls at least. Not ugly girls, but only 10/15% very beautiful. Termas girls are most beautiful. We take a drink and we are laughing about a scene : Two girls hunting together when they see 2 guys alone. Each time after 20/25 minutes of speaking, guys leave, and they dispute themselves about the strategy to convince the guys to spent sex time with her!

During this time I have observe the scene. I can notice there is many shark girls, and I think it's probably not a good idea to go with her.

Another day (I don't remember because I don't go termas every day) , we go to Luomo. Happily my friend was here, because if you don't look up the head you can see write Luomo and you don't find it very easy. Luomo is a little more little than MC, but more lights. Girls are more tanned than MC. No white girls, only black, chocolate or caramel body color. I remember black girl of MC = black girls most HOT. I can verify it! After 15 minutes, DJ lance Funk and all girls wake up and go to do sexy funk dance and they shake their bunda. That's really excite me! And again I have the impression to be on another planete.

My friends present me some girls but not really like. It's little and only 3/4 clients for 10/15 girls. So all girls free look at me and that disturb me, because I know if I look one of them more of 5 sec she comes to me.

But after, I locate one with milk chocolate color body, with red hair color (not light red as a junkie, but some hair dark red. She is very funny, and start to french kiss me, and touch me up in first and the hand come more and more down. She speaks only porto but she is really fresh and I like her. Before session I start to congratulate her about how she dances funk, their beautiful eyes, body. She seems to like me and I try to explain to her I would offer a drink or restaurant and always before session. She is ok but she says to me she finish work late, and I must wait for her. I say I know and no problem for wait. So she stays very long time with me (speak, kiss, touch, learn me funk.) without to ask to go for session! Not very GFE, but Extra GFE!

So go session for thanks her and it was amazing! No anal but she make me love with many passion!

I see her later day, to go beach, shopping and little sex. But can't all the time, because as you know guys, they must do 5 or 6 days per week on terma.

During time to Luomo, we can see a black girls name Cacau do a show. She was completely nude and dance. She takes one client, put him on a seat and strat a lap dance. Wooow!

Another day, go to 4x4. This terma is big, many girls after 4 PM and every type you want (fine to XXL ass, white to black, morena, ruivas, loiras, tall, little, * face or pretty face.).4x4 is good when you really don't know which type of girl you want or if you want to test all types.

After few minutes, a girl take my arm and bring me near of her. This is Karina, blond, beautiful brazilian ass (not big, but quite big) Start kiss me very hot, grab my dick. So I think she's the good one for very hot session as porno movies and I ask her anal? Yes completo she says to me. I say to her I like have preliminary time before session. She takes me and invite me to come and the another part of 4x4. Only one girl her relax, no music, we are alone and we do very deep french kiss for long minutes. I can't anymore respire or speak. His tongue is completely in my mouth and ready to go on my throath.

The session was very hot. For the anal I would be sweet and take time. But she decides to take my cock and put it entierely and directly deep in her ass and ask me to fuck her very hard. With that, impossible to retain. I come in 3/4 minutes in his ass. I ask her for another shot, no problem, suck me, put me another condom and go fuck deep in her ass again. I fuck her so hard, the sound of the slap on my body in his ass is really loud. I have sentiment to abuse to do that, but she motives me to continue (gostoso.) Waooow this session was amazing!

Others days I have try Balcony many times, but nothing really good.

Next time I would try casas de massagem or cheap termas as sperto speaking on his guide. I'm surprise to see one casa name hollywood for 1 pop / 20 R and no limit time. Incredible?

Next time, I will don't visit touristic places so I hope to try many others places or stay more in Centro for try to meet non working girls.

Parity Reals / Euros is good and certainly better than Real / US dollars, but it was certainly better there is 4/5 years and must be more fun to our activities

Hope to go back to Rio soon. !

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1164524]Every time the board devolves into these drama-filled posts I am left wondering what happened to helpful, updated reviews. /cranky[/QUOTE]You have to remember, the average monger can't afford to go to Rio 6 times a year anymore! I used to fly to Rio for 3 day weekends, thats a thing of the past. Its up the guys who live in Rio to supply us with new updated info because guys like me who go twice a year, don't have the inside scoop.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1164871]You have to remember, the average monger can't afford to go to Rio 6 times a year anymore! I used to fly to Rio for 3 day weekends, thats a thing of the past. Its up the guys who live in Rio to supply us with new updated info because guys like me who go twice a year, don't have the inside scoop.[/QUOTE]I agree. I just get tired of the non-review posts (like this one I guess). I post reviews when I have something new to report.

For the record, I would say that 65 appears to have gotten a decent new crop of girls in the last 3-4 weeks. 502 got new ones but no new stone-cold hotties. Luomo remains weak and MC remains fairly energetic and full of talent. I have only 2nd-hand info on Centaurus. A friend went there and liked the talent, but it's R$440 for 40 mins. R$120 of that is entrada, damn. I went to Cancun about 3 weeks ago and it was totally dead. All of this is consistent with my previous posts.

Week just gone by went to T65, $420 for the hour with 2 beers and 2 juices. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable.

Went to one of the 4 bigs casas at Tujuca, R$80 for the hour. Hooked up with a regular, very enjoyable.

Both girls are about the same as far as attractiveness, but do everything that I want and both will come over for freebies. Lets do the maths. Is T65 5. 25 x better than Tijuca? IMHO both experiences were exactly the same. EXACTLY! Think I will spend more time out at Tijuca this week!