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[QUOTE=Senb91]Orkut is as popular in Brazil as Facebook is in the U.S. Almost every Brazilian is on it.[/QUOTE]
I think the only country that its more popular in is India. Nearly every Puta in Brasil is on it. All the brasileiras in europe use it to "fofoca". And shit loads of mongers are on it as "friends".
Video termas 4x4 rio de janeiro
[url]http://www.vimeo.com/3801972[/url]
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Same street as Barbarellas. But unlike Barbarellas it's cheap and good value.
Sometimes has live music, always has GDPs, usually off duty. Quite often retired and 60+ but they still have that look, that way of looking you up and down and ascertaining if your are a chump or not. Great place for fun but lets face it the foods not that great. Its the VM of restaurants.[/QUOTE]
A Brazilian friend told me I had to try Copa Grill. I did and was not impressed. I went back one more time and my opinion did not change.
I arrived in Rio yesterday from Los Angeles. Went to Meia Pataca and saw a dog pound. However, I got horny and sessioned with a big shapely carioca named Jill. She did completa and let me cum on her face. She rubbed it over her face and said it was good for her complexion. She tooked anal real well. I also tried a new toy called the Vibrating Tip by Trojan. Just a finger vibrator good for snapping a garotas brain.
Will post more.
Tchau!
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]A Brazilian friend told me I had to try Copa Grill. I did and was not impressed. I went back one more time and my opinion did not change.[/QUOTE]
I´ve yet to find a Copa place that serves good food and allows/encourages GDPs. If people are looking at GDPs then the place can get away with average food. If you are in Barbarella´s area you can get hygeinically prepared good quality food at Cervantes (the stand up bar is best) or Copa VIP. Cervantes will pile several slices of [i]prime[/i] steak on a roll with pineapple and good melted cheese at 14R and the clientelle are the best (One such ´sandwich´often serves two people). VIP Rio has a one-day max on all food. Their lasagne is first rate at under 4R. The former is on the corner of Barata Ribeiro and Prado Junior. The latter a few yards further down on Prado and is also open early morning and only charges 2.5R for a good acai.
Copa Grill is a dive that maybe is ok if you are new to kilogramas. The food off the spit is ok but not the best cuts. Most of the self-service dishes are lukewarm - an ideal breeding ground for ill-health not to mention being unappetising.
[i]It would be nice if there were three threads for Rio - one to go on about food, one to say what a wonderful time one had dipping one´s dick, and one to actually provide information that is of practical use to other mongers seeking to meet women for paid sex.[/i]
After reading christopherd's post on his experience in VM it got me to thinking,
What type of clothes will lets say 'attract attention' to myself when I vist Rio.
I plan on wearing adidas or Nike shorts and plain t-shirts to the beaches in Copa.
Cargo/camoflage shorts plain t-shirts and flip flops when going around copa or centro in the days eating and drinking etc.
Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.
Christopherd what is type of clothing that should be worn when entering VM. Do you mean no 'brand name' clothing? Just neutral colours etc?
Sorry this will be 1st trip and I would like it to be hassle free.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Koolkid]After reading christopherd's post on his experience in VM it got me to thinking,
What type of clothes will lets say 'attract attention' to myself when I vist Rio.
I plan on wearing adidas or Nike shorts and plain t-shirts to the beaches in Copa.
Cargo/camoflage shorts plain t-shirts and flip flops when going around copa or centro in the days eating and drinking etc.
Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.
Christopherd what is type of clothing that should be worn when entering VM. Do you mean no 'brand name' clothing? Just neutral colours etc?
Sorry this will be 1st trip and I would like it to be hassle free.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I´d actually scribbled a few notes down on this for a friend so may edit this post when I look at them.
VM - cheap, non-descript, scruffy Brasil-look clothing is good. As it´s your first trip, the easiest is to buy it when you get here (cheap - eg 10R or a shirt). When you get home again, sew a few pockets into the lining lol for your next trip. If you really want to bring all your clothing, a plain, dark colour teashirt is ok and very standard looking jeans. On Friday and Saturday there is a large non-monger presence immediately outside VM for the goth and metallica bars so I tend to wear black or dark colours those days especially.
Flip-flops,* especialy Brasilian ones, are good for almost anywhere, but I remember when I first came they took a while to get used to (uneven pavements). I wear non-Brasilian trainers simply cos they don´t seem able to make ones that are breathable and light. The ones I use mostly are that and also waterproof. Fancy name trainers or white trainers will stand out, so dirty them up a bit.
I think there´s also a tendency to go with the weather . . .
Hope this helps.
[color=gray] *The other disadvantages of flip-flops are that they are not so easy to run in should you need to move fast. They can also be slippy in a downpour.[/color]
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.[/QUOTE]
This is rarely mentionned here but there is a pretty good upscale nightlife in Rio. And style and clothes are very important if you want to have success in Zona Sul or Barra trendy spots.
If your goal is to score freebies in mid to upper-class clubs, better be well dressed. As all girls around the world, brasileiras are obsessed with designers goods and actually really superficial in that aspect. If you are dressed too down you will be considered either as a cheap sex-tourist or a pathetic loser and your sex appeal will plummet. If you dress down, dress "cool" down ....but it still should look expensive and fancy !
For clubbing in upscale Rio or Sao Paulo, I personally usually wear exactly the same things that I wear in upscale Jakarta, Bucarest or Tashkent ...things like a discreetly labeled tee-shirt or a Zegna or Pal Zileri long sleeves shirt, stylish Armani jeans, a nice belt (D&G or this kind or shit) and fashion leather shoes.
I know. This sounds weird to 99% of the people here. But there is a life out of Copacabana and VM.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
I know. This sounds weird to 99% of the people here. But there is a life out of Copacabana and VM.[/QUOTE]
Prosal is quite right. One dresses for the venue. For the upmarket places I personally prefer either designer labels you can get in Rio (such as Armani) or the exclusive Rio labels that you can get in Ipanema or (for certain things) even the top floors of Rio Sul. Showing you have money and taste works (at least with certain women). But showing you have cutting edge style is even better ;-)
The gentleman who put the question though mentioned it was his first visit and also that his planned places were the mongering venues, hence my answer. Perhaps the one exception is if you are the sort of chap who likes to get a taxi in and out of the whiskeria at 4x4. If I´ve been slumming it though I´m usually stright upstairs and into a robe.
[QUOTE=Salvatore X]Video termas 4x4 rio de janeiro
[url]http://www.vimeo.com/3801972[/url][/QUOTE]
It links to a L'Uomo clip. Is there a 4x4 clip there also?
i´ve noticed quite a few people planning a first trip to rio and naturally wanting to do all the highlights. while the information is on the forum, you have to search through a lot of non-michelin stuff to find it. so by way of a re-cap in case it´s of help, here´s a possible ´lightning tour´.
1st day. if you´re staying in copacabana, you will probably just want to soak up the (over-priced but) very user-friendly ladies at help, the bar outside help and, further towards the leme end of copacabana, balcony.
2nd day. after help, the single biggest monger wonder-of-the-world for many people is 4x4. some prefer other high class termas, but for sheer impact i think 4x4 maybe gets the gold star. not knowing your way around, you probably take a (daytime) taxi into centro and get him to drop you at 4x4 (quatro por quatro). for less than you spend on a help girl, you get a selection of beauties and quite good service. after taking your time there (remember to explore the club with its many stairwells) you have an hour or 40 minutes with the beauty of your choice and take your leave before it gets dark.
taking a right as you come out of 4x4, you follow the narrow street (buenos aires). you cross the main highway (rio branco) and continue along less than 100 yards to ba85, a dirty opening in between the shops on your left. you ignore the broken elevator and the guy at the entrance and go up the tiny spiral staircase. on each floor is a bar (with cheap drinks) and a range of girls, all at about a tenth of what you paid in 4x4. you ignore the uglies, maybe take a hidden gem if you are ready for a second shot, or just store the info for your next visit.
coming out of ba85 you turn left and continue along the narrow street. you might look in at ba113 just to compare, though that is generally a bit off-putting.
soon you come to a bustling market. opposite, and slightly to your right, is a metro sign for uruguiana station. familiarise yourself with this bit as most people come to buenos aires by metro. if you know the area you won´t get thrown as you come up from the underground railway. this market and the area just beyond is also ok for buying cheap teashirts and any other stuff you want without paying copa prices.
after you´ve done your stuff here, make a left from coming out of buenos airies. you are now going along a largely pedestrianised area called rua uruguiana. you´ll see street magicians and comedians performing here. just before the end of the street, look for a news stand on your left. directly behind the news stand is the entrance to ba´s nearest competitor, uruguiana 24. same deal, 1r a minute on all floors or thereabouts, but the stairs are wide enough to pass. not that that will stop half naked girls trying to barr your way with their breasts and butts.
when you come out of uru 24, turn left and after a few yards you are on rua carioca, a busy street which crosses uruguiana at right angles. you will see the carioca metro stop straight ahead. instead of going across the paved area to the metro stop, turn right along rua carioca. look for a red canopy and you have found casarao, a club that is a tiny shade up from most 1r places. have a drink and see if anything takes your fancy.
when you come out of casarao, continue along rua carioca but cross over. just before the next street, look for the iris cinema (which you may want to avoid) and continue a few paces to carioca 59. the elevator here actually works, though you may find the stairs quicker. again, roughly 1r a minute. (there are dozens of places like this in centro, though i think these must be the biggest).
3rd day. suitably attired in your slumming clothes and not looking bright red from the beach, you head for vm. this is quite a short hop from carioca, and a bigger hop from copa. out towards maracana football stadium. the easiest way is to get a 455 bus and jump off straight after it speeds over the flyover, but as you are probably unaquainted with the area and with buses on your first visit, you might want to get a metro (most straightforward is sao cristovao, though not the nicest) and walk back the way (without crossing over) on a narrow footpath by the freeway until you come to the iron bridges at praca da bandeira where you turn left and then take the 2nd right. if you are nervous or exhausted you might take a taxi (getting out at bandeira if you want to look cool) or just driving all the way up. on your way back, you might want to walk round the corner to bandeira, both to familiarise yourself with the area and also to get a taxi in working order (a bit like not getting a taxi from outside help). to get a bus, cross all six lanes of traffic (by the bridge unless the roads are very quiet) and wait for one with copacabana on the front and flag it down. vm is 20r for the girl and between 5 & 8r for the room. you may save 1r by taking your own condoms.
this is just thrown up quickly as i´m aware of the need for a ´quickie´guide, so apologies for any typos.
[color=gray][i]of course, frequenting prostitutes will not be the main object of your trip lol. so you might want to do sugar loaf at sunset - you will remember it the rest of your life - a friday night in lapa, a stroll through the awesome botanics, a wander along a near-deserted stretch of barra beach, a boat to niteroi and the futuristic museum - and so on. if you don´t have a guidebook get a monthly guide from tourist information on princesa isabel (leme end of copa) next to frank´s bar.[/i] [/color]
Another point maybe worth considering in advance is, what are you going to do with your clothing when you take it off??
The cubicles vary a lot and price is not necessarily an indication. For instance, some have hooks to put clothes on and one or two even a small table. Many don´t. Some are badly lit. Some casas have plumbing or leaking roof problems and so the floor may be wet. Sometimes the door doesn´t lock or even shut properly or you have to leave it open a bit to get some light. Bearing in mind what you plan to do (or might do) sexually, how secure is your clothing? Is it near the door? Is it in a neat pile? Would you notice if anyone covertly interfered with it? Is anything likely to fall out of your pockets even without any help? Will it get wet or dirty?
I´d say maybe 80 per cent of the cubicles are ok if you don´t tear your clothes off and leave them randomly on the bed. I´d say maybe 98% of the girls are honest and won´t actively try to steal. Many will go out of their way to look after you and some will even indicate where to put your clothes safely. But you might want to be prepared.
hit centro today about 2pm. ba 85 was even fuller, as it progressively gets more patrons as the week progresses. friday is a meat market! i am getting there real early and getting laid as often as possible.
today, i went to floor 4 and sessioned with melanie, she has more to her name, but this is what i call her. she is a thick blond with a cute face. she has a fairly big butt even for a brasilian. she gave me a cbj, although i read on a brazilian forum that she gives bbbj. my guess is that she does not if she does not know you. she asked lots of questions about who i was and if i was a carioca, etc.
i could not cum, probably because i was thinking about why she gave a cbj and other things. she started talking fast in porto and mentioned "difficil," or difficulty. man i told her straight out that i can get it up anytime. she laughed and told me to come back later. i am drinking lots of water and plan to spray her ass tomorrow. difficil, my a**!
i left for a short walk, ate a light lunch of a sandwhich and soda for r2, and went back, then hit the third floor and sessioned with chris (yeah, i admit at the time i was afraid to go back to the fourth floor). chris gave me a bb grind and bbbj. i actually came from the bb grind. man was this a strange day, i can't come with fine, big butt melanie, and then i ejaculate prematurely with skinny little chris!
i stopped by floor 2 and said hi to renata, who i will get with on saturday. floor 2 is the only one open on saturdays.
floor one is usually the busiest and it was today. i drank lots of beer and bought my girl lew a coke. she and some other girls left soon therafter and i got to see her in street clothes. man i think i am going to ask her out. she looks good in jeans.
i got drunk on the first floor and then headed back upstairs. chris grabbed me and begged me to bang her in the butt. i decided to do it and had a great time giving her what she said would be her last session of the day. she gives bbbjs. she is brown skinned, very skinny, but has a nice piece of booty back there. in doggie style she spreads those legs and you can really get in there. this is not really true of the big butt girls in rio generally.
i spent r$45 for the three sessions total.
i am nowhere close to be being on track for spending the money i changed to reals. so look for some reports later on luomo and monte carlo as i will try these spots out to spend some this extra loot.
i am hearing from the grapevine that the average rate in copa is now r200. this is the rate for even guys who have been coming for years, i hear.
i actually paid one girl r200 for about 4 hours but i then informed her that i will not be calling her again as i think that rate is not worth it for me.
i hope others take this tack too. r200 is about 80 dollars but on principle i think that is a lot of money in brazilian society, so i don't think i should have to pay it just because i have it.
anyway, i am having fun.
tj
[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]How is the street action in Brazil. How much cheaper are the street girls than the termas or help girls. I have heard you can find what we consider a ten here on the streets in RIO.[/QUOTE]John,
What's up. This is Tijuana from the Tijuana thread. Why are you just a regular member now? Anyway, I am not sure about street action. Rio is different in that all of the restaurants on the main street in Copocabana, Avenida Atlantica, have girls hanging around. In most places this would be considered street action. Usually this action is R150-200 (65-86 US dollars) for 2-4 hours. The girls in Rio do not usually watch the clock. This is much better than Mexico!
There are actually girls on the street corners at night but I think mostly Brazilians take advantage of this. These girls can actaually be more expensive. I got quoted R300 once. Then again a guy on another site said he got a few for 100-200 short time.
Tijuana
i think that in helpee the prirces are rising. they start from 500r, i do not know i was before 10 days in rio, and i pay 350 for a girl for all night, maybe i was rookie i saw these prices. maybe when i ll come back to rio negotiate better.