Manila

[QUOTE=Slippery; 1134201]So you gave the guy less than a dollar tip? How big is two dollars in your life? If you can't give a decent driver a simple dollar trip then I can only imagine the girls you beat down? A fucking dollar? You got to be kidding me. How big is two dollars in his life? Alot more significant as it is in your life.

Cheap bastasrd[/QUOTE]Whether in Philippines, US, or any other part of the world, the decision to tip (or not) is completely up to the customer. It is called a "gratuity" because it is meant to be given as thanks for a job well done. Anyone demanding a tip, of any amount, gets absolutely nothing from me! I don't care if it is only a dollar or two. It's my choice!

The majority of Filipinos think foreigners are rich, and therefore must cough up those riches for their demands of tips. On top of prejudicial pricing (foreigners pay more than locals) , this makes a nice vacation into something that someone might not want to return to again. And [email]jack@sses[/email] That defend the locals for demanding a tip, are just as bad.

Bottom line, if the service is good enough that you feel like gratefully tipping, have at it. If not, keep you money."The customer is always right!"

[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010;1134239]Three ladies I had met there during my trip response to my comment that they were beautiful was "Yes, I know." Talk about modesty. Holy Macarena![/QUOTE]You must be meeting the rare ones. All of the Filipinas that I have talked with, tend to feel they are not pretty at all. Granted, I have seen plenty that spend a lot of time staring at themselves in the mirror or shop windows. But I can only recall one that acted like she was better than all the rest. Fortunately she was spending all the money of some Japanese monger, and not mine!

Driveallnight,

I think you are right if that is the game you want to play. I have thought about this issue of complimenting women a lot. We all love compliments, men and women, especially if they are sincere, timely and personalized. The hotties that demonstrate their arrogance need to be reminded that their beauty will fade in a few years and all they will be left with is what is INSIDE that pretty little head and heart. They don't want to hear it but they NEED to hear it. Just my. 02.

[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1134519]Good lord man. Be an alpha, show some game! You *never* tell a beautiful woman, p4p or not, how hot she is. She hears that shit all the time from all of her fawning, beta-boy "oh-we're-just-good-friends" orbiters, you think that's going to make her curious about you?

Rather, ignore her good looks. In fact, if she or her friends bring it up? Make fun of her a little, maybe find the weak spot in her appearance and gently poke fun at it.

And most importantly, subtly let her know you have *plenty* of options. Get that little hamster in her head running! This goes for both Filipinas and Western women. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slippery; 1134201]So you gave the guy less than a dollar tip? How big is two dollars in your life? If you can't give a decent driver a simple dollar trip then I can only imagine the girls you beat down? A fucking dollar? You got to be kidding me. How big is two dollars in his life? Alot more significant as it is in your life.

Cheap bastasrd[/QUOTE]As said by others, it's not a tipping culture. I took a BG out in BKK, we went to her favourite restaurant. When settling the check, I asked her what she thought the tip should be. She slide me back most of the change and left a few coin totalling maybe 20 bt. She said that's more than enough but o felt uncomfortable with the amount because I am used to subsidizing the employers shitty wages in the Western world where wait staff make minimum wage and expect a tip. Anyways, found out later my girl worked the same restaurant but in another city so she knew the norm.

That's when I realized that my girl is watching me. If I tip too generously for all services in her witness, of course she will expect the same outragous tip for her. It's called paying it backwards. They remember who and how much you tipped.

All the sudden your her ATM, and I don't mean the ATM featured in some select films.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1134645]Screaming Beaver, nice move on that taxi fuck. Manila taxi drivers behave like spoiled children when they see foreigners. Hopefully, he learned something from your lesson.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I thought offering a 29% tip was very generous for that part of the world. Perhaps the poster labeling me a Cheap Charlie would prefer me paying what it would cost here in the USA. My taxi fare to and from the airport here in USA was $75 each way. I'm sure that kind of jack would have the taxis in Philly lining up a mile long wanting my business. LOL.

I'll tell you what did make me feel like a Cheap Charlie last week. I met this 19 year old on one of the dating sites who lived out in the province. I invited her to come visit me in Makati. She ended up taking 2 trike rides. 3 Jeepney rides, a long bus ride and then one more Jeepney which took over 2 ½ hours. Unfortunately she did not pass the interview but my guilt kicked in and I gave her 300 pesos. I'the bet half the guys on this site would say I'm a Cheap Chalie and the other half say I'm ruining the market!

I'll go with Cheap Charlie. Hope the $8.00 expenditure didn't put too big a hole in your budget.

[QUOTE=David_33;1134901]I'll go with Cheap Charlie. Hope the $8.00 expenditure didn't put too big a hole in your budget.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid it did.

[QUOTE=Orange Crust; 1134862]As said by others, it's not a tipping culture. I took a BG out in BKK, we went to her favourite restaurant. When settling the check, I asked her what she thought the tip should be. She slide me back most of the change and left a few coin totalling maybe 20 bt. She said that's more than enough but o felt uncomfortable with the amount because I am used in to subsidizing the employers shitty wages in the Western world where wait staff make minimum wage and expect a tip. Anyways, found out later my girl worked the same restaurant but in another city so she knew the norm.

That's when I realized that my girl is watching me. If I tip too generously for all services in her witness, of course she will expect the same outragous tip for her. It's called paying it backwards. They remember who and how much yo theu tipped.

All the sudden your her ATM, and I don't mean the ATM featured in some select films. [/QUOTE]I'll ask the same question. What's $2. 00 in your life? It's alot in their life. Cheap bastard.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1134935]I'll ask the same question. What's $2. 00 in your life? It's alot in their life. Cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]Hmm and how many times in a day would you come up with a tipping situation? How many $2 taxi tips? Doorman, helper etc. How many times a day? How may days a week? A month?

Its very nice how ready you are to spend someone else's money.

[QUOTE=Orange Crust; 1134862]As said by others, it's not a tipping culture. I took a BG out in BKK, we went to her favourite restaurant. When settling the check, I asked her what she thought the tip should be. She slide me back most of the change and left a few coin totalling maybe 20 bt. She said that's more than enough but o felt uncomfortable with the amount because I am used to subsidizing the employers shitty wages in the Western world where wait staff make minimum wage and expect a tip. Anyways, found out later my girl worked the same restaurant but in another city so she knew the norm.

That's when I realized that my girl is watching me. If I tip too generously for all services in her witness, of course she will expect the same outragous tip for her. It's called paying it backwards. They remember who and how much you tipped.

All the sudden your her ATM, and I don't mean the ATM featured in some select films. [/QUOTE]Similar. My pinay once got into a heated argument with a jeepney driver. He kept one peso as his tip instead of returning it for change. I didn't care. My filipina got into an argument with him right in the street, wanting the peso back. Slippery, if you feel the need to tip, go ahead and tip. Don't push your expectation of the rest of us, or even on filipinos. Its their culture, not yours.

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1134899]I'll tell you what did make me feel like a Cheap Charlie last week. I met this 19 year old on one of the dating sites who lived out in the province. I invited her to come visit me in Makati. She ended up taking 2 trike rides. 3 Jeepney rides, a long bus ride and then one more Jeepney which took over 2 ½ hours. Unfortunately she did not pass the interview but my guilt kicked in and I gave her 300 pesos. I'the bet half the guys on this site would say I'm a Cheap Chalie and the other half say I'm ruining the market![/QUOTE]SB.

Not only a cheap charlie but disrespectful and an a*hole (David_33 I tend to say more).

Suffice to say you seem proud of what you did. Well done, you pay $75 for a taxi in the USA and can't even give a girl $10 for all her effforts to see you

What you did will likely mean that the the girl will be more wary of foreigners / westerners/"white men" and maybe there would have been some or total "loss of face" for her in her poor community.

Even if the girl is a fuglie (and I have had a few turn up in my time as I did not do my diligence properly. C2C before hand etc) I would treat them with dignity and show respect.

You on the other hand did not, maybe thats because in the USA there is limited culture. Well what to expect when Fox News is considered a news channel not a comedy channel.

Rant over!

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1134999]What you did will likely mean that the the girl will be more wary of foreigners / westerners/"white men" and maybe there would have been some or total "loss of face" for her in her poor community.[/QUOTE]Actually, I doubt that. Although it was a bit tight giving her only 300 (you are not a tyke by any chance are you, Jack) she was probably chuffed to get away from her breezeblock and tin hut for the day. These girls do lead empty, vacuous lives on the whole and any chance to escape from the screaming chickens, clucking kids and male relatives keen to do a little in-breeding is probably seized with both hands. Plus public transport is dirt cheap and she probably had enough left over to buy the family a few extra cans of sardines for their dinner:D.

Dear fellow monger friends,

Have been to Manila many times, always appreciated Burgos, Edsa, etc. But now looking for something different. Any ideas on whether there are clubs where Russian or Ukraine ladies are trying to earn a living? Furthermore, somebody experience with the Mariott hotel near the airport and whether they are girl-friendly? Probably they are, paying a USD 100 per night for a room. . At least it is close to Airforce One en Starfleet. .

BTW, if no Russians are to be found, what would be an Asian destination that does fulfill that 'need'? Jakarta?

Thanks guys for your answers and enjoy your time in Manila!

Vogel

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1134999]You on the other hand did not, maybe thats because in the USA there is limited culture. Well what to expect when Fox News is considered a news channel not a comedy channel.[/QUOTE]There is plenty of culture in the US, just not on Fox News, which most of us 'mericans will agree is more tragedy (or perhaps travesty?) than comedy.

[QUOTE=Vogel09; 1135045]Dear fellow monger friends,

Have been to Manila many times, always appreciated Burgos, Edsa, etc. But now looking for something different. Any ideas on whether there are clubs where Russian or Ukraine ladies are trying to earn a living? Furthermore, somebody experience with the Mariott hotel near the airport and whether they are girl-friendly? Probably they are, paying a USD 100 per night for a room. . At least it is close to Airforce One en Starfleet. .

BTW, if no Russians are to be found, what would be an Asian destination that does fulfill that 'need'? Jakarta?

Thanks guys for your answers and enjoy your time in Manila!

Vogel[/QUOTE]Yep, Divino located next door to Jools on P. Burgos. Bring plenty of cash since it's a well known clip joint.