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Natty.

Wanchai Bars.

Tiger is correct about the Vietnamese ladies. One week visa only. Filipina's are reduced. Get 2 weeks but don't usually cross the border and return to get another 2 weeks.

What you need to understand about Escape. Still does good business. Is that about 70% of the guys are business travellers / holiday makers. Not many HK residents go to Escape to find hookers. They have other options. And some believe there are too many ' white women ' in Escape. HK residents ofter visit Escape with visitors / friends. As it is a ' famous bar'. And some go there for a drink and to look at the girls. Business travellers are the main punters in Escape.

AFAIK Neptune 2/3 are doing OK, not great, Amazonia is doing very well and Joe Bananas in the last 12 months has welcomed back a few hookers. And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.

Summing up. Wanchai has been a bit quieter in the last 3 months. But the ladies don't only get customers from Bars.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265647]And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.[/QUOTE]What. The. Fuck.

I have bought girls drinks at this place, after being told they cut a 50% cut. I am not quite sure I am following this, as most of the girls I see at New Makati do not have drinks in their hands. On the rare occasion when I am feeling so generous (I only buy for girls whom I deem are VERY friendly or are potential takeaway material) I think it would be better to just palm the girl the difference. And, hell, I thought I had scored big-time when I was able to talk the manager (short fellow, very friendly guy, by the way) into a free beer. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265441]Hi Tiger 888,

Yea, I am getting psyched up for Jakarta. I have heard many great things about the city and I have been doing my research. There are a lot of places I want to check out and naturally, like a kid in a candy shop, I want to go everywhere. I am going to spend 6 nights here, but 'best laid plans of mice and men' if you know what I mean. NB[/QUOTE]In Jakarta, hook up with JAD first day so that you get a good lay of the land. PM or email him first, he's a reliable and good guy. The nice thing about Jakarta is the variety of places and price points; lots of great choices and just not enough time!

Will hang at the rear bar at New Makati on Friday night, 'about 11ish on. Any ISGers who want to pass the code (whatsit?"Sure are a lot of girls here") please. Show up and we will assess the scene.

And if Chantik the legend is willing to make a cameo appearance, then, please do, lovely girl.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1265658]What. The. Fuck.

I have bought girls drinks at this place, after being told they cut a 50% cut. I am not quite sure I am following this, as most of the girls I see at New Makati do not have drinks in their hands. On the rare occasion when I am feeling so generous (I only buy for girls whom I deem are VERY friendly or are potential takeaway material) I think it would be better to just palm the girl the difference. And, hell, I thought I had scored big-time when I was able to talk the manager (short fellow, very friendly guy, by the way) into a free beer. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]can't believe that you don't know this. You must look through your beer goggles.

Yes. The ladies get drink commissions on ladies drinks. Like most Wanchai bars.

Next time you are at Makati watch girls be given drinks by the Bar Manager. Or being asked what drinks they want. It happens more at the front bar near the entrance.

Why do you think Forest is quiet during the week. Not enough free drinks for the girls.

And for your information.

Ladies at neptune 2 and Escape who buy standard drinks eg; heineken / strobe etc pay $20.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265642]Natty.

Every time I respond to a post. You get stressed. Chill out!

You can choose whatever girl you want!

I was making the observation, after a poster asked about 141 girls, and then in his next post he posted some kind of English translation which made no sense at all. Seems very stressful 1.

Jakarta. Great choice from saunas / massages / parlours / independents in bars etc. Probably pay around 1m rupiah (about 900 HK) for short time. This is a starting point with independents. Prices drop depending on the time of the night. Don't expect A levels.

Batam. Very cheap. Where Singapore / Malaysian residents go for weekends. Should be half the price or less than Jakarta. Except the ladies to be more primitive but very enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I directly posted a contrary opinion to yours. And I think I was respectful to you when I did so. The one time I can recall that we disagreed publicly was when I posted an experience I had one Sunday last year with a Filipina DH. I had a nice couple of hours dancing and drinking with her. It was around 7pm when she said she had to get back to her employer's home. She gave me her phone number and asked that I call her later. I escorted her and her friend to the MTR and we said goodbye. Rather than go back to the Wanchai bars, I opted for a 141 date with a beautiful Japanese girl for 1700hk. The Japanese girl had a great body along with her amazing personality. We clicked and I really enjoyed my time with her. After I posted this report, you commented that I could have had 3 DH's for the same price of the Japanese girl. Yea, I know that. So what? How many Mickey D cheeseburgers can I buy for the price of a Ruth Chris NY Strip? I guess we had a different pov, but I must say, that at the time I felt that unless you had personally sampled both Japanese and DH pussy, you really didn't understand the 'je ne sais quoi' indefinable quality I was talking about and why I went for the Japanese girl. It depends on how I feel, but sometimes I would take an hour with a beautiful young Japanese girl over 5 DH's. It is my personal preference based on experience and that was my contribution to the forum back then. I did not mean to imply anything derogatory to you. You have your own opinion on the subject and are damn entitled to it.

The only other time I can recall that I responded directly to one of your posts was yesterday. But I don't think you can call what I posted a disagreement with you and I know what I posted was in no way disrespectful or insulting. You wrote '[It] must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. Trying to work out prices, services, etc, and then the ladies often have limited English. ' Which is absolutely true! All I added was that it was worth it IMHO. And then I followed that statement up with a recent experience I had with a pretty Chinese FL in East TST to illustrate my point. I concluded my post tangentially with a statement of my attraction for Indonesian girls and in particular for one Indonesian girl I recently met in Macau so no one on the forum could construe than I have anything against Indonesian girls. I love Indonesian girls, but I happen to be addicted to Chinese girls at the moment. I am not addicted to Indonesian girls although who knows what will happen in Jakarta. By the way, I appreciated the lines you wrote about Indonesia.

So Chantik, I think you got the wrong guy here. I almost never respond personally to your posts and I have never shown you any disrespect. I like your contributions to the forum. You are well informed and write in a very intelligent way. I hope you stay involved here for a long time to come. You know a lot more about the ins and outs of the Wanchai scene than I ever will and have a unique perspective on it all. When some other guys were hitting you with low blows saying they did not think you were a women, I defended you. So if once in awhile I offer a different opinion than yours, please don't take it personally. The forum is about the free flow of information and ideas. We can disagree from time to time and still be respectful to each other. The next time I am in Hong Kong, I will PM you. Let's have a drink together and talk about the sport. Let's be friends!

I've been out of this forum for the past few months but all I can say is that I am glad to Chantik here! Really livens up the place with a different perspective.

Chantik, if my HK trip works out later this year, I'll be sure to email you.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265642]Jakarta. Great choice from saunas / massages / parlours / independents in bars etc. Probably pay around 1m rupiah (about 900 HK) for short time. This is a starting point with independents. Prices drop depending on the time of the night. Don't expect A levels.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you go but satu juta is NOT the street price or asking price for ST for independents. Only the higher end saunas charge that, eg Alexis, Malibioro. The other places like Kartika, Travel Hotel, Classic are much less. And service is usually excellent.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265642]Batam. Very cheap. Where Singapore / Malaysian residents go for weekends. Should be half the price or less than Jakarta. Except the ladies to be more primitive but very enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]Prices and quality usually lower, stick to Jakarta

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265647]Natty.

Wanchai Bars.

Tiger is correct about the Vietnamese ladies. One week visa only. Filipina's are reduced. Get 2 weeks but don't usually cross the border and return to get another 2 weeks.

What you need to understand about Escape. Still does good business. Is that about 70% of the guys are business travellers / holiday makers. Not many HK residents go to Escape to find hookers. They have other options. And some believe there are too many ' white women ' in Escape. HK residents ofter visit Escape with visitors / friends. As it is a ' famous bar'. And some go there for a drink and to look at the girls. Business travellers are the main punters in Escape.

AFAIK Neptune 2/3 are doing OK, not great, Amazonia is doing very well and Joe Bananas in the last 12 months has welcomed back a few hookers. And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.

Summing up. Wanchai has been a bit quieter in the last 3 months. But the ladies don't only get customers from Bars.[/QUOTE]Yup. I'm one of those business travelers that would go to escape. I didn't like neptune 2 because of the smoking. But, I wasn't happy at escape 2 trips ago and went o Amazonia, too crowded and not enough ladies, so I went to Neptune 2. I picked up a pretty Indo, first time, who said she was a DH. I paid her normal lady of the night rates, but she was the best fuck I had in HK. All over me in he cab. Great oral and great sex. And she didn't even ask to turn off the lights. Just a wild night. Next trip went back to Neptune, but it was the rugby weekend. Bar was crazy. Bumped not her and decided to repeat, against my rule. Give me more time and I will break out of my shell and see other bars that are mentioned. Maybe even go on ansairday or Sunday afternoon.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265709]can't believe that you don't know this.[/QUOTE]I do believe this ignorance qualifes me as NOT being a "Wan Chai regular," and thus fit for Chantik's warm embrace.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265725]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I blah.

Blah.

Blah.

Blah.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, the longest post in the last few months, is your need to explain yourself to chantik. It does seem stressed

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265725]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I directly posted a contrary opinion to yours. And I think I was respectful to you when I did so. The one time I can recall that we disagreed publicly was when I posted an experience I had one Sunday last year with a Filipina DH. I had a nice couple of hours dancing and drinking with her. It was around 7pm when she said she had to get back to her employer's home. She gave me her phone number and asked that I call her later. I escorted her and her friend to the MTR and we said goodbye. Rather than go back to the Wanchai bars, I opted for a 141 date with a beautiful Japanese girl for 1700hk. The Japanese girl had a great body along with her amazing personality. We clicked and I really enjoyed my time with her. After I posted this report, you commented that I could have had 3 DH's for the same price of the Japanese girl. Yea, I know that. So what? How many Mickey D cheeseburgers can I buy for the price of a Ruth Chris NY Strip? I guess we had a different pov, but I must say, that at the time I felt that unless you had personally sampled both Japanese and DH pussy, you really didn't understand the 'je ne sais quoi' indefinable quality I was talking about and why I went for the Japanese girl. It depends on how I feel, but sometimes I would take an hour with a beautiful young Japanese girl over 5 DH's. It is my personal preference based on experience and that was my contribution to the forum back then. I did not mean to imply anything derogatory to you. You have your own opinion on the subject and are damn entitled to it.

The only other time I can recall that I responded directly to one of your posts was yesterday. But I don't think you can call what I posted a disagreement with you and I know what I posted was in no way disrespectful or insulting. You wrote '[It] must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. Trying to work out prices, services, etc, and then the ladies often have limited English. ' Which is absolutely true! All I added was that it was worth it IMHO. And then I followed that statement up with a recent experience I had with a pretty Chinese FL in East TST to illustrate my point. I concluded my post tangentially with a statement of my attraction for Indonesian girls and in particular for one Indonesian girl I recently met in Macau so no one on the forum could construe than I have anything against Indonesian girls. I love Indonesian girls, but I happen to be addicted to Chinese girls at the moment. I am not addicted to Indonesian girls although who knows what will happen in Jakarta. By the way, I appreciated the lines you wrote about Indonesia.

So Chantik, I think you got the wrong guy here. I almost never respond personally to your posts and I have never shown you any disrespect. I like your contributions to the forum. You are well informed and write in a very intelligent way. I hope you stay involved here for a long time to come. You know a lot more about the ins and outs of the Wanchai scene than I ever will and have a unique perspective on it all. When some other guys were hitting you with low blows saying they did not think you were a women, I defended you. So if once in awhile I offer a different opinion than yours, please don't take it personally. The forum is about the free flow of information and ideas. We can disagree from time to time and still be respectful to each other. The next time I am in Hong Kong, I will PM you. Let's have a drink together and talk about the sport. Let's be friends![/QUOTE]Natty.

Think there has been a misunderstanding.

I responded to the post about the guy wanting a 141 girl. Who then sent another post with this list of numbers, which nobody understood. Gee, I only see Punters who speak English. Although some French guys make it challenging. Couldn't imagine how I could see a guy who doesn't speak English. It would give me a sore head.

Don't see how I expressed a different opinion. Hey you may have the same issue in Jakarta / Batam. Language barrier online. You may even post and ask me translate from Bahasa into English.

Anyway I will be interested to see your posts in the Indonesian section.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1265773]Not sure where you go but satu juta is NOT the street price or asking price for ST for independents. Only the higher end saunas charge that, eg Alexis, Malibioro. The other places like Kartika, Travel Hotel, Classic are much less. And service is usually excellent.

Prices and quality usually lower, stick to Jakarta[/QUOTE]Read my sentence about starting price. It starts high but can be bargained down.

Got to say that HK is the best place for W / L in bars. Drink Commissions are delicious.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1265828]Yup. I'm one of those business travelers that would go to escape. I didn't like neptune 2 because of the smoking. But, I wasn't happy at escape 2 trips ago and went o Amazonia, too crowded and not enough ladies, so I went to Neptune 2. I picked up a pretty Indo, first time, who said she was a DH. I paid her normal lady of the night rates, but she was the best fuck I had in HK. All over me in he cab. Great oral and great sex. And she didn't even ask to turn off the lights. Just a wild night. Next trip went back to Neptune, but it was the rugby weekend. Bar was crazy. Bumped not her and decided to repeat, against my rule. Give me more time and I will break out of my shell and see other bars that are mentioned. Maybe even go on ansairday or Sunday afternoon.[/QUOTE]Strange how this lady said she was a the / h. You have seen her twice at night. See her a third time at night and she is not a D / H.

Great to hear that you had a good time with her. Don't read that all this often in recent times.

You will be in heaven on a Sunday evening. And it is usually cheaper for fun.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1265834]I do believe this ignorance qualifes me as NOT being a "Wan Chai regular," and thus fit for Chantik's warm embrace.

Cheers, [/QUOTE]Watch the girls and drinks tonight. See how many many open their wallets when the drinks are delivered.