Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1331156]But there is no good reason to leave this kind of thing to luck, chance, or certain time of the month for the lady. You can make her horny by masturbating her pussy and clit with a well-lubricated hand. Masturbation works just as well for ladies, as it does for guys. You just need to know how to do it well, which takes practice and experience.[/QUOTE]Yes Dan, I have read this before many times from you, so I am not going to read it all again. We know its your favourite topic, but it can get repetative.

It doesn't always matter how good you are if the girl really doesn't want to get turned on. She will just stop the stimulation from continuing, be it from hand or tongue / mouth. Yes I also know that sometimes, girls will not intend to get excited, but in the end give in to it. Other times they will stop it and even say "I don't want to come. It will make me too lazy to work", etc. So in the end it depends on what the girl wants to do.

Some girls like to have orgasm with a dick in them too. Not all girls like exactly the same thing. Some really get off doing cow-girl because they get to be in control.

[QUOTE=Otari; 1330863]Do you know the 'Ultimate Bangkok Massage Guide'

[url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/prices/ultimate-bangkok-massage-guide/[/url]

Is it worth to invest 15 USD?[/QUOTE]I think this kind of a guide is almost immediately out of date, because your experience at any massage place depends on the lady more than anything else. Ladies come and go. The ladies who made one massage place really good might not be there anymore, when you go there.

I think the best guide is a guide about the best ladies in the business and information about where to find them and in what way they are best. Massage places are nothing, without the ladies to make them good. It's specific massage ladies you should be looking for and not massage places. Because even in the same place, one lady might be good and another lady not so good.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1331160]Yes Dan, I have read this before many times from you, so I am not going to read it all again. We know its your favourite topic, but it can get repetative.

It doesn't always matter how good you are if the girl really doesn't want to get turned on. She will just stop the stimulation from continuing, be it from hand or tongue / mouth. Yes I also know that sometimes, girls will not intend to get excited, but in the end give in to it. Other times they will stop it and even say "I don't want to come. It will make me too lazy to work", etc. So in the end it depends on what the girl wants to do.

Some girls like to have orgasm with a dick in them too. Not all girls like exactly the same thing. Some really get off doing cow-girl because they get to be in control.[/QUOTE]When something works well in sex, then repeating it makes all the sense in the world. There is no need to re-invent the wheel by trial and error every time. When you find something good, then it makes sense to stay with it and perhaps innovate on it a little.

If the lady likes having her clit masturbated during sexual intercourse, then with her on top of you in the reverse-cowgirl position gives pretty good access to her clit. All you need to do is reach in between her legs.

But I don't agree with you that a massage lady will stop you from masturbating her pussy, when you do it well. If she is stopping you, then it's probably because you aren't doing it well and causing her discomfort. You need to improve your technique in this situation, instead of blaming it on the lady.

Criticizing yourself is what allows you to learn and improve. But when you blame it on the lady every time, then you never learn or improve. Perhaps this is why I keep repeating myself. I can see in this forum that people are still blaming the ladies, instead of looking at themselves and trying to improve their own performance.

When the pretty lady is willing to take a good drilling from you, then it's up to you to make it a success. What more do you need, when you are good at it?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1331146]Really? Who had such a terrible pic that the real girl was better and who is so stunning as to get 9 or better? Is it a secret?[/QUOTE]Posted her name back in July . Miki from EZ2. RTTF.:D

[QUOTE=Otari;1330914]Thanks a lot! I'm rather into PSE and like multiple pops during one session. Unfortunately the PSE girls are rarely 8 or 9, so this is a trade of. Are there any others MPs similar Tulip or Mango? What about Snow White for example?[/QUOTE]

Again, same July post - had good PSE experience with Snow White girl following EZ2 out-call to my hotel. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1331162]It's specific massage ladies you should be looking for and not massage places. Because even in the same place, one lady might be good and another lady not so good.[/QUOTE]Yes, Dan I agree generally with you, but I think that some MPs attract a specific type of girls. A new comer has to start with one MP building gradually his knowledge about MPs and ladies hoping not for good luck at the beginning but relaying of an experience and advice of others. Therefore even an indicative ranking of MPs could be a great help. Do you have one? Of course it's difficult to compare oil MPs and soapy MPs. Additionally there are nuru MPs – should they be compared with oil or soap MPs? From this forum I understood that MPs you can divide as well into PSE and GF friendly. Do you agree with this classification?

In a sense I am not one to comment as my 'experiences' of last November. 2011 around Skvt are out of date. However there seems to be little of substance being posted on any of the Thailand related threads which would / could help returnees this coming tourist season.

There are a lot of one line back chat items; a lot of the same old stuff but nothing to help keep the next crop of punters on to new ideas. Of the hundreds of MPs along and around Skvt, let alone the rest of BKK, the focus seems to be only on the old stalwarts and not on the many new places opening up. I know more than enough about Annie's, Tulip, Mango, EZ. To know what to expect but what of the many new places (apart from DR BJs which has essentially been killed by the few posts on here).

It would thus help if senior members found another place for their banter. Or added to the sum of knowledge by some substantive inputs.

I will add my bit in due course. But that 'bit' would be enhanced by some real help from those who might have explored off the beaten track. Or are these members sitting wishing their future away in the Soi 7 Beer Garden?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1331183]Posted her name back in July . Miki from EZ2. RTTF.:D[/QUOTE]okay Sorry Alzheimer's is setting in. I do remember now being puzzled that you gave her such high marks but "didn't click". Maybe she likes very quiet timid guys.

I agree that Miki looks okay but a bit ordinary in the web pic (to my taste). All these girls photo looks seem superior: Cherry, Cee, Anna, Pat, Candy, Jazzy, etc, until such time as I might get to see the real girl. I do remember that Jazzy does look like her pic though (and seem to remember someone saying she was "Ice" from another shop) having seen her sitting outside. I already know that Donut and Rose look quiet different to their web pics, especially without any makeup on. Both were nice performers for me, just not in the league to get a 9 for looks at all.

[url]http://www.ezmassagebkk.com/ladies.html[/url]

[QUOTE=JaoChoo; 1330386]Is it worth complaining about the low quality service of a girl at the Papasan?

I am a regular at Nataree, going there almost every weekend. I also often take one of the more expensive girls. I am probably a bit more demanding than a typical Thai / Asian customer, but I never treat the girls bad at all, but the opposite. So I would consider myself a good customer.

I have the phone number of one of the papasans, who kinda became my personal Papasan. He always treats me very well and gives good recommendations. So I think I could easily call him and tell about the bad experience. I'm just not sure if it's appropriate or not (losing face etc.) and don't want to create or run into trouble.

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I have to say that, even given the normal fact that it always depends on the girls and that quality varies, I *always* had a good time at Nataree. Rarely there is a girl I don't tip. But this once was completely crap, and I actually think they should he aware of it. On the other hand, I don't want to create trouble.

What do you guts think?

(BTW, she was a 20yp newcomer from Chiang Mai sitting in the back for 4k damage) [/QUOTE]I am surprised you had such a run of good luck at Nataree. In my experience the proportion of crap girls there is a bit high. Yes you should tell the papasan she was crap and certainly not tip him for such a crap recommendation. He should be ashamed of himself, unless this was really having a one-off bad day. Its a bit criminal that they wanted 4K for such a crap girl.

Chances are he is receiving kick-backs to recommend her, or is her direct pimp.

He should know what her body is like including the ass pimples. He should be made aware she didn't want to Aap Naam. You probably should become aware that taking "new" girls is risky. I prefer to try slightly older and more experienced girls, because I know well that many young girls at Nataree know nothing at all, except how to be a starfish. Hopefully the crap girls won't last beyond paying the contact debt that sent them to Nataree. I prefer places where a greater percentage of girls are free-lance and able to work when they feel like it, rather than owned by a pimp. It's a flawed setup there.

E. G. My favourite Amsterdam girl (Chiang Rai) is often not working. Very pretty face, nice curvy body, sweet and performs adequately (certainly no porn-star but willing to enjoy herself). She shows up to work when she likes, but I have her number to call her to check. If she doesn't answer, she will even call me back, very nicely, even when she is up country in her parents' home.

I like to have collections of known great girls rather than trying lots of new ones which is quite risky at Nataree. It is great if you can get a very reliable Papasan / Mamasan who would never give you a bum steer. I used to have the perfect mamasan at CPII years ago when went there often who knew precisely what I liked and would not dare recommend unless she was sure. I would still sometimes pick a different girl when her look appealed, but that's when it gets to be a gamble.

If I ever got a really bad girl at a soapy in general, I would usually cut the session short, and immediately find a replacement girl to wipe out the disappointment as quickly as possible. That is a method to show you thought the girl was absolute crap, without even saying anything. Better to waste a little money rather than your valuable time putting up with a crap session for too long.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1331195]In a sense I am not one to comment as my 'experiences' of last November. 2011 around Skvt are out of date. However there seems to be little of substance being posted on any of the Thailand related threads which would / could help returnees this coming tourist season.[/QUOTE]Yes there is a lot of useless crap in the BKK Reports thread. I call it the Misc. Crap Thread. The Massage threads are a bit better for info. In general you would be asked to "put up or shut up". Nov 2011 experiences? Not that out of date, unless you posted the info already. Just prefix them with the time period. Things don't really change so massively in less than a year. Okay A few girls go and a few new ones arrive. My two favourite Soapy girls I have been seeing for well over 1 year, in fact one of them for several years. Most of my bar girls and Oily girls from last year are still around. Sometimes they dissappear and later come back.

Looking through your history, there are very few mongering experience reports based on the Titles, which seem to be a miscellaneous collection of often non-mongering topics. Do the right thing yourself. Some ISGers have hundreds of mongering experience reports on here over time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1331238]Yes there is a lot of useless crap in the BKK Reports thread. I call it the Misc. Crap Thread. The Massage threads are a bit better for info. In general you would be asked to "put up or shut up". Nov 2011 experiences? Not that out of date, unless you posted the info already. Just prefix them with the time period. Things don't really change so massively in less than a year. Okay A few girls go and a few new ones arrive. My two favourite Soapy girls I have been seeing for well over 1 year, in fact one of them for several years. Most of my bar girls and Oily girls from last year are still around. Sometimes they dissappear and later come back.

Looking through your history, there are very few mongering experience reports based on the Titles, which seem to be a miscellaneous collection of often non-mongering topics. Do the right thing yourself. Some ISGers have hundreds of mongering experience reports on here over time.[/QUOTE]I think you have confirmed what I thought. Things don't change massively Given the hundreds of MPs in Bangkok, members here move around those mainly on the edges of Skvt. From Annies (No 36, Nicola as I recall) , to Tulip to EZ to a couple on Soi 33 (both disappointing). The only minor blip has been the arrival of Dr BJ (and reports of his establishment indicate that it is no great shakes).

Last November I did indeed follow the usual track adding Akane (not mentioned much?) and a few small places off sub sois.

But this year I wanted to break out and was looking for some new ideas. Small massage parlours which offer services at competitive prices. This I thought might be the area of interest of seasoned members who might well avoid, for example, the Beer Garden* and Gullivers as the usual tourist traps.

* maligned if a success of finding a good FL in one in 20 visits is acceptable.

[QUOTE=JaoChoo; 1330386]Is it worth complaining about the low quality service of a girl at the Papasan?

I am a regular at Nataree.

I have the phone number of one of the papasans, who kinda became my personal Papasan. He always treats me very well and gives good recommendations. So I think I could easily call him and tell about the bad experience. I'm just not sure if it's appropriate or not (losing face etc.) and don't want to create or run into trouble.

I think, however, they should know about the bad service. I understand she had her first day today. But I often one of the newcomers, and even though quality of service can vary, even the most inexperienced one treats you well and tries to please you (I admit I believe this could be partly due to my Papasan telling them I'm coming quite often). The girl today, however, besides definitely not being inexperienced, was a complete starfish. Didn't want to bath (!) at first; ended up in an almost empty bathtub then. Washed my dick, that was it, until I told her she's supposed to wash me full body. On the bad, cannot do this, cannot do that, and generally moved like piece of wood, and always stopped after a few minutes. I hardly came, and once that was done, she jumped up, in her clothes and wanted to leave. That was after 50-60 minutes max. I politely, then note strongly told her that she is supposed to serve me 90 minutes. Bit she insisted to leave. Told me she was told by Papasan she could go after one pop. Papasan, however, definitely recommended her because she would give two pops (and good BBBJ, which wasn't the case either).

I have to say that, even given the normal fact that it always depends on the girls and that quality varies, I *always* had a good time at Nataree. Rarely there is a girl I don't tip. But this once was completely crap, and I actually think they should he aware of it. On the other hand, I don't want to create trouble.

What do you guts think?

(BTW, she was a 20yp newcomer from Chiang Mai sitting in the back for 4k damage) [/QUOTE]You should not worry about that at all. At a MP on Petchabury Road I once called the Papasan after 20 or 30 minutes in the room and said I wanted another girl. No problem at all. The first girl had to leave. The downside of this, however, is you cannot go downstairs and choose yourself another girl. They bring one up. The service of my second girl was very good, but her looks were beyond average. By the way: She told me if this happens the first girl gets no money at all. Therefore we should send badly performing girls back downstairs more often. They should learn that bad services has bad consequences for them.

[QUOTE=Otari; 1330863]Do you know the 'Ultimate Bangkok Massage Guide'

[url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/prices/ultimate-bangkok-massage-guide/[/url]

Is it worth to invest 15 USD?[/QUOTE]

I bought it and it is relatively useful because it has good maps (from google) , but the actual info is not very detailed.

It's a decent buy I'd say, but i'm not sure I need to get the latest version (there was a one year free update policy, but the actual update just came out so I would need to purchase a new version!)

Some of you might be interested in the recent police raid on High Class Entertainment Complex massage parlor.

[url]http://www.coconutsbangkok.com/news/police-raid-huay-kwangs-high-class-massage-parlor-find-16-women-from-laos-and-burma/[/url]

In the accompanying video you get a chance to see the entire staff leave the place. Those that you get a good look at are easy on the eyes. The article raises more questions than it answers.

1. What kind of business actually names itself "High Class Entertainment Complex massage parlor"?

2. Where is this place? I know Soi Pracharad Bamphen, but have never heard of this business. According to google maps there is no soi 4.

3. What does joining the Asian Economic Community have to do with insuring that massage parlors aren't doing "modern massage" if they're certified for "traditional massage'?

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1331528]Some of you might be interested in the recent police raid on High Class Entertainment Complex massage parlor.

[url]http://www.coconutsbangkok.com/news/police-raid-huay-kwangs-high-class-massage-parlor-find-16-women-from-laos-and-burma/[/url]

In the accompanying video you get a chance to see the entire staff leave the place. Those that you get a good look at are easy on the eyes. The article raises more questions than it answers.

1. What kind of business actually names itself "High Class Entertainment Complex massage parlor"?

2. Where is this place? I know Soi Pracharad Bamphen, but have never heard of this business. According to google maps there is no soi 4.

3. What does joining the Asian Economic Community have to do with insuring that massage parlors aren't doing "modern massage" if they're certified for "traditional massage'?[/QUOTE]To Bartchamdo.

This look like the Hi Class massage not far form Nataree I remeber the stair to go up to the front door, I been there a few time girl are only average and service sucks, most massage place in the area offer FS I think someone miss their payment to the LE.

Fast Eddie 48

Hi,

I want to visit Pink Massage

Somebody already go over there, are the girls good.

And what is the prices in pink Massage.

Thank You