Medellin Reports

I am anti plastic contamination. I use refillable 5 gallon jugs. I feel awful when I'm in Miami and see people buying pallets of small plastic water bottles for home use.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2908246]You misunderstand me. I am saying that if you are eating food, you will have the local bugs in your system whether you drink the water or not. I'm not saying that eating local food will "help" with water contamination. If people are worried about this (I live in MDE and SJO and drank the tap water from day one in both places), please use sustainable methods vs. Buying bottled water. Filtration, etc. You can buy water bottles with filters. I just get real tired of seeing plastic bottles everywhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2908130]I'm positive. Clubs are staying open past 1am. I'm here now.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2908327]Oh I have had a problem drinking the tap water in the past, in Medellin. Water outages will certainly result in contamination. [/QUOTE]The tolerance in tap water could be quite different between travellers and locals too. Just because locals could drink the tap water doesn't always mean that we could since the stomach flora inside could be quite different from living in different regions for most of our lives.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2600011]Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.[/QUOTE]I get the proxy part for laptop but how do you route company phone? Do you turn of cellular network and just use phone via proxy VPN WiFi?

3 am? What time were they closing to begin with? It's a serious question, I've never been in the park later than 10 PM or so and then only years ago.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2908340]I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2907830]

I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.

I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I [b]MARRIED[/b] one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... [b]please[/b] don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.[/QUOTE]YYZ, I agree with practically everything you have written especially about how to treat the women. Then I come to this part and I am like are you out of your damned mind?

First off, I get what you are saying about the attraction. This impoverished girl that you married probably treated you like a king in the bedroom and was young and super hot. The ideal Colombian woman fucks the shit out of you, does your laundry, packs your bags, and will do literally anything you ask of them. That is a pipe dream in the USA.

But let's get real. Say you met the same 18 year old type not in Colombia but in West Virginia with an impoverished family. Do you think anyone would think such a marriage would work?

Yeah, I get it is man's innate desire to fuck as many women as possible, but before you get married, you better have found something in the woman you are considering marrying more valuable than that innate desire because that is what is going to keep you from straying. Eventually, you are going to get bored of the 18 year old girl and her family.

And getting from 18 to 23 before they get ugly? Well, yeah, if all you value is looks, then yeah, you should not get married. No matter how hot your woman is, one day you will see hotter.

The easy part is sweeping the women off their feet and having the women think you hung the moon. The hard part is your commitment to them. That means selling your woman to your friends, family, and coworkers. If she cannot make valuable connections with them, then your relationship is doomed. Was anyone in your personal circle hurt when things did not work out with you and your wife?

I am going to try not to brag about my woman, but if you were a friend of mine and flying into a city and needed anything, outside of paying, she would handle everything. And when she did, you would be telling me how lucky I am, and her friends are the same way. I would imagine you could do the same if someone visited you in your hometown.

One thing I cannot stand is government and divorce and all that bullshit about women getting half as if every woman is so valuable. When guys cheat, they usually do so because their wives are worthless, and they can. When I got divorced, nobody in my family missed my ex-wife or ever asked about how she is doing. There was no downside to cheating her on outside of the law so I did. If someone wanted to go out with her after my divorce, I would have said she is pretty and good in bed, but once you see the real her, you are going to want to run away. If she was so damned valuable, someone should have picked her up by now, and no one has.

If I broke up with my current gal, it would be devastating to her friends and family and to mine because there have been real bonds that have formed and knowing that prevents me from seeing other people. Also unlike my ex wife, there would be a line of guys out the door after her, and that would not be just based on looks but who she is. Hell, MY friends and family would be trying to fix her up if things did not work out.

The friends of my gal have all traveled and are college educated. Many have family in the USA and Europe, speak great English, and have foreign BFs and husbands. They are either professional or married to a person who is a professional. It was rare for me to have met anyone in Colombia who was not professional and could think long term. If you are a well to do American and want a Colombian woman, you have to marry someone from this class or it is not going to work. You have better odds of it working out with a USA hick from the sticks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2908353]3 am? What time were they closing to begin with? It's a serious question, I've never been in the park later than 10 PM or so and then only years ago.[/QUOTE]They were closing at 4 am before the mayor changed it to 1 am. I only know when they used to close because my friend works until they close. I don't think I've ever been there past midnight.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2908301]Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. Keystone cops don't help, but if you ask me, a grandpa R-ing his granddaughter sends you to a real special place compared to some foreign slob being an idiot in what would certainly seem like an illegal agreement between parties type situation (based on the elevator video). Certain people will take to the streets for whatever the topic of the day is, but it boggles my mind on how locals can hear half a story from their neighbor's grandma's maid's friend on whatsapp, Day 1, and never think for a second there could be more to the story. Gentrification is my other hot button issue. Zimbabwe is at 130%, pretty sure there aren't many gringos buying apartments and bottles of alcohol there. Gas is up 50% in the US and I don't hear too many people blaming it on the Colombians in Miami or NYC. Ok, that's my rant for the day. All this greenery and peace at The Masters got me in the mood to pick a fight with my laptop LOL. In case anyone is worried, this has nothing to do with being sexually frustrated!

Enjoy the weekend. Cheers![/QUOTE]Yes I agree the whole country is crooked from the police all the way to president. But here's the thing. This is not our country.

The stories of druggings and medellin basically being the new worlds brothel all backtracks back to the type of gringo tourists that they don't want in their country.

Every measure they are taking in Cartagena and Mde realistically is to get rid of the blatant sex tourists that publicize and embarrass their country. Ie Passport Bros and YouTubers.

Most of us go there to take their women and you expect Colombian men in general to be ok with that??

[QUOTE=ChickySat;2908352]I get the proxy part for laptop but how do you route company phone? Do you turn of cellular network and just use phone via proxy VPN WiFi?[/QUOTE]If you have to have a phone number, You probably have to put it into airplane mode and use WiFi calling or use your own phone. The solution that works for some do not work for all. If your device has company management software on it, they practically control / own and see everything on your device. The best method is to put VPN on the router

If you are important enough to your direct manager, and is not afraid of losing your job. Try to tell the manager that and the manager might just let you do it or provide a compromise

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2908301]Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. ..[/QUOTE]I know a girl that would hide in my bed to pretend that she was sleeping when she received call from certain people. The first time I saw that she hid in the bed to start a video call, then pulled her breast out so the caller on the other side could see. It didn't even seem sexual because it was natural, like drinking water but it was odd to me. I asked who was that. She said something like that was a man who was like her father.

I remember another senior poster wrote about gringos who lived in certain part of the country supported the whole family of the girl. I know one who has an old gringo boyfriend. She told me she could not leave her boyfriend because he supported her family including her grandmother. They hardly had sex but the gringo wanted a child after she turned 18. I met this gringo because he was obsessed with her and tracked her down to my apartment. He paid the expenses of the girl and her best friend to vacation somewhere because the best friend wanted to see something. He put them in a separate house or cabin in the same place. They only met for dinner. I can see the gringo is very wealthy by what he owns and what the girls got.

Anyway, I see a few girls from poor background have stories like these once I spent enough time with them.

No BS. He's a huge resource so pay attention! He is also semi young, wealthy, and good looking. (no I'm not gay).

No one here rates themselves like they rate the girls. So figuring out how they rate, catch, pay for or find these girls is hugely variable. If you are not an 8 you can't do what an ISG pro does. IMHO I believe you should consider your own resources, likes and planning before jumping down the rabbit hole (Medellin) Meet him if he's available! My other hero here (Elvis) is out of action and I had to go to Brazil all by myself! Portuguese is fascinating, so are the girls. Alas, No one offers a complete guide to Sao Paulo / Rio like this read by xyz.

I can vouch for one time I witnessed him do a 6 or was it 7? Girl rotation within a few hours. No wonder the hotel manager wanted him to slow down. LOL. I personally can't keep up with that.

Right now I feel blessed to have found a young sex crazed student in Bogota that I will bring to Medellin. I might have a few days to kill. Let you all know later. Thanks xyz. See you again one day.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2907830]Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. [B]My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3[/B]. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
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The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!![/QUOTE]

I have not reported in a while. I thought I would post a quick note from a veteran. I just completed a one week trip to Medellin. By far my best trip so far on three of four years. I don't do streets and stopped clubs a while ago. I do strict ID check and I don't do Airbnb and use hotels with good protocols. Keeping those factors in mind, I had a great time. Parque Lleras has cleaned up a lot but still ways to go in my opinion but is so much better now. You can actually walk the streets without bumping into a dozen, clearly underaged hookers. Provenza is nicer too. Hope it stays this way and continue to be cleaned up. Cheers.

BTW, clubs open till 2 am in Zona Rosa and outside the zone, till 4 am.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2908399]Yes I agree the whole country is crooked from the police all the way to president. But here's the thing. This is not our country.

The stories of druggings and medellin basically being the new worlds brothel all backtracks back to the type of gringo tourists that they don't want in their country.

Every measure they are taking in Cartagena and Mde realistically is to get rid of the blatant sex tourists that publicize and embarrass their country. Ie Passport Bros and YouTubers.

Most of us go there to take their women and you expect Colombian men in general to be ok with that??[/QUOTE]This is a huge contrast to say Thailand where they WANT us there. Even the guys from the cab drivers to club staffers. Seems everyone there is on with the 'program' as they are all pushing girls on us and entire industry like Pattaya is built on mongering world. And yes there are many Youtubers there particularly ex pats with lots of girls willing to go on video to promote themselves and their bars. Something is obviously very different in Colombia which is preventing the same reception that we get in Thailand or even the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2908485] Something is obviously very different in Colombia which is preventing the same reception that we get in Thailand or even the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Some of you forget that Colombia remains a conservative Catholic country which is the thing different from Thailand. Colombian politicians are in a catch 22 where on the hand they need tourists money but on the other hand their conservative base is outraged by the excess of careless foreigners.

All would be well if things happened discreetly but us Americans don't do discreet.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2908443]No BS. He's a huge resource so pay attention! He is also semi young, wealthy, and good looking. (no I'm not gay).[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are things you can say that might not trigger things for people who do not know any better like being Ambassador level at Marriott. During the pandemic, I used the Marriott card exclusively and traveled to mostly Marriott hotels. A friend told me about the red carpet treatment of being Ambassador and I finally got to the point where I had 100+ nights in a year. I thought I had made Ambassador but just went from Titanium to Titanium elite and would have had to spend an additional $10,000 to reach Ambassador. Even being Titanium, the managers at the hotels would kiss my ass but Ambassador is a whole different thing. If you are an Ambassador level, the hotel is required to kick out another guest and put you up even if you do not have a reservation.

I can see why he is your hero. I can tell just from what he writes he is a huge player.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2908443]IMHO I believe you should consider your own resources, likes and planning before jumping down the rabbit hole (Medellin) Meet him if he's available! My other hero here (Elvis) is out of action and I had to go to Brazil all by myself! Portuguese is fascinating, so are the girls.

Alas, No one offers a complete guide to Sao Paulo / Rio like this read by xyz.[/QUOTE]And you have killed it taking the seeking model to whole new level. It worked out for me but I really admired your approach to the game.

There was a guy named Bwana Dik I think who did a great write up on Rio. For the most part, it is pretty accurate. I think Atlantic Avenue is safer now and HELP disco has shut down but I am not sure Rio has changed much outside of that so his guide probably would still be good. Sao Paulo has Scandallo but all the other clubs are much the same as twenty years ago from what I gather, but I have never seen a definitive SP guide. Maybe you should write one, Don. LOL.