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[QUOTE=AndyDallas;2157639]Hi guys,
First time in BKK. Looking for a good 4-star or so hotel which is GF and close to action (MPs etc.). Any suggestions? Please help. Plan to stay for 3-4 nights.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Landmark, just around the corner from Nana Plaza.
[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2162372]Landmark, just around the corner from Nana Plaza.[/QUOTE]I agree with WS. I always stay at Landmark in Bkk.
I am bemused though by guys like AndyD asking these questions, as it seems to me that they must not have travelled very much, do not know about hotel booking sites online or even the existence of google maps. There are literally 100's of hotels that are"close to the action" if you consider the action to be from Nana right up to Soi Ekkamai.
I prefer to choose my own hotel from the smorgasbord, since a quick read of the FF will tell you that all hotels are GF and each booking site will tell you prices and what you get for your dollar.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2162430]I agree with WS. I always stay at Landmark in Bkk.
I am bemused though by guys like AndyD asking these questions, as it seems to me that they must not have travelled very much, do not know about hotel booking sites online or even the existence of google maps. There are literally 100's of hotels that are"close to the action" if you consider the action to be from Nana right up to Soi Ekkamai.
I prefer to choose my own hotel from the smorgasbord, since a quick read of the FF will tell you that all hotels are GF and each booking site will tell you prices and what you get for your dollar.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I would go on Agoda and select my own hotel.
However, I don't consider Landmark to be 4 star, I consider that one to be 5 star. That hotel will cost about $120 a night. If you are going to pay that much, might as well stay at Terminal 21 and have easy access to the mall and soi cowboy. Personally, I don't like to spend that much per night.
Majestic Grande is also near Nana and is only about $75 a night. It's still quite nice. But there are a plethora of choices in Bangkok. You can see them on agoda. Just sort by the ratings and read the reviews, that's a safe bet in picking a good hotel.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2162430]I agree with WS. I always stay at Landmark in Bkk.
I am bemused though by guys like AndyD asking these questions, as it seems to me that they must not have travelled very much, do not know about hotel booking sites online or even the existence of google maps. There are literally 100's of hotels that are"close to the action" if you consider the action to be from Nana right up to Soi Ekkamai.
I prefer to choose my own hotel from the smorgasbord, since a quick read of the FF will tell you that all hotels are GF and each booking site will tell you prices and what you get for your dollar.[/QUOTE]I had my first trip to Thailand in February and thanks to Google Maps and this site I had the time of my life. I went with my brother who was blown away from my on the ground knowledge and booking hotels in the best locations to the degree we were talking to another Aussie who lives there and he couldn't believe what I had learnt from the internet. I'm fortunate to have s job where I can spend hours on the computer researching but it's not hard to fo.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2162438]Agreed. I would go on Agoda and select my own hotel.
However, I don't consider Landmark to be 4 star, I consider that one to be 5 star. That hotel will cost about $120 a night. If you are going to pay that much, might as well stay at Terminal 21 and have easy access to the mall and soi cowboy. Personally, I don't like to spend that much per night.
Majestic Grande is also near Nana and is only about $75 a night. It's still quite nice. But there are a plethora of choices in Bangkok. You can see them on agoda. Just sort by the ratings and read the reviews, that's a safe bet in picking a good hotel.[/QUOTE]Smoothy reinforces my point that YMMV and every one of us perceives things differently, whether it's quality of a hotel or a wife for the night.
That's why I emphasize that recommendations from other punters should be taken as a rough guide only.
I am lucky that I can afford 4 or 5-star hotels. Landmark has special deals for prices so who knows how much you end up paying? It has been there for 20 years so to my mind it's 4-star only as it's classy but a bit tired compared to the newer chain places but it's still my favorite around that area.
There's a plethora of choices, so guys should take the time to pick their own hotel that suits their preferences.
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However, I don't consider Landmark to be 4 star, I consider that one to be 5 star. That hotel will cost about $120 a night. If you are going to pay that much, might as well stay at Terminal 21 and have easy access to the mall and soi cowboy. Personally, I don't like to spend that much per night.
[/QUOTE]Strangely 5 Star rating requires the Hotel to have a lot of facilities that many of us won't actually use, relating to conference centres, Spas, beauty parlours, several international restaurants, etc. So 4 and 5 stars is a bit of an irrelevance. Many of us like newer hotels, or refurbished, or just pure class, a great pool and Gym, good breakfast, great views, etc.
Not many officially 5 star hotels go for $120 a night, unless on a special. Would be better if you quoted Thai Baht, Since I don't know what USA dollar is worth exactly right now. I never stayed at Landmark, but as example Column Hotel is a favourite and officially rated 4 stars and is typically costing 4600 Baht (end of April). So I would rarely take it without a special on, or if had a very hot girl with me to make it worthwhile. On same date same booking site [URL]booking.com[/URL], Landmark was rated 5 stars and quoted as 4400 Baht. So for that day appears as a better deal (maybe not? Obviously I can't say which is better for me, without trying the Landmark.
Can be a very popular hotel gets more expensive. An old favourite Admiral premier is rated 4 stars and price is 2400 baht (years ago used to have very good bargain prices before it got too popular with Chinese tours). Mermaid also 4 stars 2400 Baht. Yet for me the Column Hotel is vastly superior. Quality and experience can be somewhat unrelated to the number of stars.
Grand Mercure Asoke Residence, rated 5 stars is 3400 Baht for same date (no refund special price) with BF included and 71 sq. metre room, with Kitchenette. That is a very good deal indeed in my book, but I still rate that place lower than Column for overall experience. Like Smoothy, I don't normally want to spend this much, but could do it in right circumstances if taking girl LT. Could prefer to take Mermaid or Admiral Premier at 2400 and save money to spend on the girls.
For 4500+ Baht total, do I just want a Hotel room, or do I maybe want a room, and a fuck or BJ as well? I certainly don't need the Hotel to be very impressive if there by myself. I do know a place I can stay around 1000 Baht with small room but adequate if just for myself. Plenty of these outside the Sukhumvit monger zone but still reachable by taxi late at night in 10 to 15 mins. Maybe move up to a better room when intending to do LT.
Never understood at all, guys staying in a posh expensive Hotel, maybe spend a lot on drinks and food, but very stingy what they will spend on a girl. Hardly makes any sense to me.
I can be spending very low on food and accommodation at times, leaving a lot left over for girls.
Renting a room by the month is a good option in Bangkok if staying here for a high percentage of the time for several months.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2162583] Quality and experience can be somewhat unrelated to the number of stars.[/QUOTE]Correct. Originally the star rating was based on the number of facilities. The more facilities the higher the rating. It had nothing to do with the quality of the hotels.
However over the years more and more people started to consider the star rating as a quality rating.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2162583]
Never understood at all, guys staying in a posh expensive Hotel, maybe spend a lot on drinks and food. Hardly makes any sense to me.
[/QUOTE]I do it because I can, and I enjoy myself. I work hard so that I can indulge in some pleasurable places with good food, good wine and fellow travellers who are not on a budget.
I could say with equal validity that I don't understand why you are so choosy and picky about girls' nose shapes, pretty faces and body shape. Hardly makes any sense to me either.
During my initial visits to LOS, I used to prefer staying at 5* properties, they are well within my budget and, to be honest, I find the prices to be quite affordable. However, during my last couple of visits, I decided to stick to 4* hotels, while booking a higher category room such as an executive suite or such like. IMO, this is more VFM as you get bigger rooms, often with a separate sitting area, separate check-in desk, club facilities etc. at a similar/somewhat higher price point as entry level rooms in 5* hotels. Plus, in my experience, you tend to get pampered more. I have been able to get early check-in (at even 7 in the morning) and late check-out (up to 5 in the evening) at most of the 4* hotels when I was putting up in their top tier rooms, even during high season. Also, the room amenities are equivalent to, if not better than, 5* hotels. I agree with Red Kilt, if you can afford it, why not indulge yourself. After all, YOLO right! Plus, in my experience, I've found that this sort of decadence impresses the WGs and, in turn, translates into better service for longer duration without any additional burden. Just my thoughts on the subject.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2162664]I do it because I can, and I enjoy myself. I work hard so that I can indulge in some pleasurable places with good food, good wine and fellow travellers who are not on a budget.
I could say with equal validity that I don't understand why you are so choosy and picky about girls' nose shapes, pretty faces and body shape. Hardly makes any sense to me either.[/QUOTE]If you are going to quote me, please do so correctly. Do not remove the critical phrase so that the meaning is entirely changed. That is a dirty tactic. It means you claim I wrote something that I did not write.
I have nothing against people spending a lot on their Hotel if they can afford it, assuming they can also afford to spend average or above on their P4P girls, rather than be a totally stingy punter. I also don't have any problem with you hanging out with guys who have money. Each to their own and according to their means. I don't have any problem with you choosing girls to your specs too, assuming you don't take any old piece of meat.
We have seen guys staying at the J.W.Marriott in the past and complaining about any girl wanting 3K for a LT booking, or wanting more than 1.5K for a ST. That is the inconsistency I refer to that does not quite make sense to me. Surely if a guy wants a really good quality room and high priced, he probably also wants a good quality girl, and she may not be the cheapest girl going.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2162788]I have nothing against people spending a lot on their Hotel if they can afford it, assuming they can also afford to spend average or above on their P4P girls, rather than be a totally stingy punter.
We have seen guys staying at the J.W.Marriott in the past and complaining about any girl wanting 3K for a LT booking, or wanting more than 1.5K for a ST. That is the inconsistency I refer to that does not quite make sense to me. Surely if a guy wants a really good quality room and high priced, he probably also wants a good quality girl, and she may not be the cheapest girl going.[/QUOTE]I agree with the first part. IMO, that is exactly how it oughta be. Having said that, I must add that there can be bewildering anomalies in the spending pattern of some well-heeled guys, which always baffle me. As an example, a buddy of mine, who visited Bali a couple of months back and had stayed at a luxury 5* resort for 4 nights, was sharing his hobbying experience with me and, to my astonishment, he told me that he travelled to some remote village to shag a 19-20 yo chick for a measly $20 or so. He spent more on the taxi, getting there, than the actual act! Of course, I didn't say anything to him, but, couldn't wrap my head around such absurd behavior. And, this is a guy who, I know for a fact, spends up to $300 a night on fancy hotel rooms and likes expensive single malt whiskey, but, finds shelling $150-200 LT on a hot number to be exorbitant. Speaking for myself, I don't find the talent in LOS to be commensurate with my taste and the reason for my hobbying, primarily, in this part of the world is that my travel buddies are not that well-off and, sadly, candy available in Dubai, Europe etc. is too rich for their blood and I don't like traveling alone. But, in the end, to each his own. One primary personality trait, this hobby demands of any fella, is to be non-judgmental and keeping your preferences, prejudices to yourself, especially if you want others to share freely with you. Of course, all this is subjective and dependent on the relation and the level of understanding you share with the opposite party. Again, this is my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Always happy to hear a contra view. Thanks.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2162850] Speaking for myself, I don't find the talent in LOS to be commensurate with my taste and the reason for my hobbying, primarily, in this part of the world is that my travel buddies are not that well-off and, sadly, candy available in Dubai, Europe etc. is too rich for their blood and I don't like traveling alone. But, in the end, to each his own. One primary personality trait, this hobby demands of any fella, is to be non-judgmental and keeping your preferences, prejudices to yourself, especially if you want others to share freely with you. Of course, all this is subjective and dependent on the relation and the level of understanding you share with the opposite party. Again, this is my opinion. Feel free to disagree.[/QUOTE]Not sure why I should keep personal preferences to myself. Guys can understand relevance of my report to them if I do state my preferences. If a guy has totally different taste and looks for different things, he can take my recommendations with a big grain of salt. We all understand that guys have some selection criteria, so we might as well admit it, whether its a low price, skin colour, willingness to do anal of BBFS, etc. My criteria might be quirky, like "slim thighs" as an example, just happens to be what I find sexy. Don't see why that should be a problem. Just means I am understanding moderately well what type of looks excites me.
When you say "too rich for their blood" (not a typical English phrase), I don't really have a clue what that means. Too expensive or something else?
Some guys like to travel with buddies. Not sure why. I have to travel alone and can monger anywhere I feel like it, and it is not too dangerous. Many years back girls born in my own country were largely average looking and boring. In the current age, the young ones look better. Hookers were very mechanical and had a long list of rules and restrictions (90% of them and only 10% were good). Imported Asian girls on average performed vastly better and had better attitude. I also found exotic looks more exciting, ever since my teenage years watching James Bond Movie where he goes to Japan. I also found some black girls on TV and Movies to be very exciting.
Coming to Thailand in 1991 was a monger's paradise. I was probably less fussy about Thai looks back then, still liking similar figures to today, but I did take girls whose faces today, are barely a pass. I can see from my photos some girls were not exactly stunning but the exotic effect, and good attitude overcame that. Since I was used to hookers with lots of rules, enthusiastic Thai girls with a good body was very welcome. I don't find any girls with tit jobs or nose jobs in my old photos. No big deal. I just did not choose them, or if I did, did not take a picture. In later years I found out that European girls could be really great performers too, and black girls even better (on average).
I agree that the prices of mongering in Thailand have always been an influence. Too expensive back home, for doubtful chances of a good time. 1991 I almost always had a girl for the night, since it was so cheap. I tended to stay in crappy Hotels then, as recommended by friends. Years later I could afford better Hotels, and so moved up to mainly 4 stars accommodation, and sometimes 5 stars, as discussed earlier, the number of stars was not that relevant. I always looked for value for money in Hotels.
Not all Hotels cost the same, since the quality, comfort, room size, and facilities varies so much. Unfortunately girl prices relate more to their location than to their performance, and their beauty does have an influence.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2162946]When you say "too rich for their blood" (not a typical English phrase), I don't really have a clue what that means. Too expensive or something else?[/QUOTE]It is a perfectly acceptable English phrase/idiom. Search it on Google and find out for yourself. And, it means exactly what you pointed out. About the rest of your post, it is your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. Interesting reading. And, what I said about keeping one's preferences to oneself, it was meant in the context of a face to face discussion, especially with someone who is not a hobbyist per se and, may, fear being judged (my buddy, for example, whose experience I shared in my previous post). I should have mentioned this in my earlier post lest my remarks be construed as an attempt at generalisation, which was never the intent. Of course, as you rightly point out, it is a different matter when it comes to an online public forum. Anyway, I can appreciate your perspective. Food for thought. Cheers!
Very girl friendly, no one even asks for any ID or bothers to look who is going in / out. The hotel is in soi 11 at the very end, and the stench of the street is quite bad. The hotel itself is a budget hotel with very good staff and the rooms are decent. You get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2162946]
When you say "too rich for their blood" (not a typical English phrase), I don't really have a clue what that means. Too expensive or something else?[/QUOTE]To quote John McEnroe - "You cannot be serious!" That is an extremely common phrase.