American Politics

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2667198]Well, well, the people behind Senile POTUS succeeded in starting their war on Russia's border. After Trump managed to keep the lid on it for four years, the Democrat Party warmongers in total recklessness just went right ahead and fcuked everybody.[/QUOTE]Bradon's deterrence and fourty+ years of diplomatic know-how worked out well for Ukraine Eh? And he did that all by himself! Stand by! With the impotence of this POTUS China is acting next

We got long black winter ahead of us and it'll last for three more years.

Let's go Brandon!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2666971]Of course it is cheating, but the Left always justifies what they do thanks to their sanctimonious so called "noble" ends. I call BS.

Voter interference and undue influence: Here is a major example of how the 2020 election was interfered with: Mark Zuckerberg among other left wing elites donated $420 million dollars of his own money to couple of "non-partisan," tax-exempt political operations: The Center for Technology and Civic Life and The Center for Election Innovation and Research.

So these two left wing partisan "centers" hired Vote Navigators" to canvas mostly poor neighborhoods that traditionally vote for Democrats. These ballot mercenaries would go inside the homes of voters. Note, it is a crime in all 50 states to "electioneer" at polling places where you walk into and vote, but the loop hole in Covid 2020 was that it was not a criminal activity for a third party to interfere with a mail-in ballot.

Thus thousands of these left wing paid navigators flooded the democrat, mostly minority precincts in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. All states that were close between Biden and Trump. The navigators "assisted" voters in filling out ballots and, at times, "cured" mistakes. That means they influenced votes and definitely corrected ballots so they wouldn't be thrown out. Sometimes these hired political operatives took the actual ballots from the folks and brought them to polling places. This is called "bundling. " So what guarantees were there of non interference or vote manipulation were there? None.[/QUOTE]Geez, even the "National Review", a typically winger publication, says that all of what you say is BS. [URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/02/irresponsible-hype-from-molly-ball-and-time-magazine/[/URL].

And, as usual, you bought rightwingnut propaganda skin, baloney and all.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2667061]LOL how many wars started during Trump as POTUS? Efficiency of the diplomacy is in the results, right?[/QUOTE]Our enemies didn't need to start wars to thrash our economy and kill Americans while Trump was in charge. He did a better job of that than any USA enemy ever could.

And they knew it.

[QUOTE=Canada;2667174]Biden is already responsible for a war. His weak foreign policy enabled Putin to invade Ukraine. Biden has blood on his hands. Not only Ukrainians will be killed but also Americans living and working in Ukraine. And yes Harris will make light of this and chuckle. Socialists will not agree. Idiots will not agree.[/QUOTE]So, what would Cheeto-Tweeto have done? Threaten to nuke Moscow? Actually nuke Moscow? Threaten to send in troops? Actually send in troops. Convince Putin not to release the Russian-hooker-pee-tape?

What you wingers don't understand is that Putin has wanted Ukraine for a long time. Since 1991, in fact. And, yes, I know that Putin didn't become the head Red until 2012. But somehow wingers forget that Cheeto-Tweeto campaigned in 2016 about getting the US out of NATO. He campaigned in 2020 that he would do that if re-elected.

So why would Putin need to do anything. He'd help Cheeto-Tweeto (again) get elected in 2020 and wait for him to pull the US out of NATO. Then he could just walk right in to Ukraine without firing a shot.

But Biden threw a monkey-wrench into the works by getting elected. Rather than having an ally in the White House (see recent reports of Cheeto-Tweeto praising Putin) Putin had an enemy. Biden had Putin backed into a corner. Putin wanted Ukraine but now it is going to cost him something.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2667048]USA got 11% of it's crude oil imports from Russia last year, the highest percentage in a long time, if not ever. And that was due to Trump's Pandemic supply chain destruction that is being repaired already.

If Russian oil evaporated tomorrow we could happily pick up the slack from Canada and Mexico.

USA does not need Russia for a damn thing. That temporary maximum of 11% oil from Russia would not be enough to convince the Senate that we ought to launch into a war with them for National Security reasons in order to recover that easily replaceable pittance.

Putin's desperate war to replace Trump's failed attempt to service him free of charge and Russian bloodshed with that "perfect phone call" to Ukraine's Zelensky is not a Putin vs Biden fiasco.[/QUOTE]You are wrong again and in fantasyland. Reason we are importing 844,000 barrels a day and giving Russia $80 million dollars a day is because Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden. We can go to Canada and get 844,000 barrels a day because we have no way of transporting it. Are we going fly it to the refinery? We can't get it from Mexico because Mexico doesn't have heavy crude. Right now Biden and USA are dependent on Russia for this. Don't blame Trump. He approved the pipeline and we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president. There would not be a war in Ukraine if Trump was president as was proven in his 4 years in office. You and everyone that voted for Biden can take credit for the death toll in Ukraine. Guilty people always try to blame someone else. You if you are guilty keep blaming Trump.

This invasion move by Putin was so spectacularly stupid and disastrous for his own country, the lamebrain idea for it must have come out of Trump's piehole during one of their No Notes Love Collusion meetings as an honest attempt by him to come up with an alternative means for his Master to take back Ukraine after Trump's idiotic "perfect phone call" scheme went down in Impeachment flames.

How stupid?

Here is a timely example.

[B]Jobless claims total 232,000, slightly less than expected; Q4 GDP revised up to 7%[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/jobless-claims-gdp.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Jobless claims for the week ended Feb. 19 totaled 232,000, slightly less than expected.

Continuing claims hit their lowest level in nearly 52 years.

GDP increased at a 7% annualized pace in the fourth quarter, closing out a year with the strongest growth since 1984.[/QUOTE]Just like America under a Repub president, Russia isn't going to see economic results that good for a long, long time.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2667195]Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.[/QUOTE]The only one groveling to Putin is Biden. He did it under Obama and he did it from day one of his presidency. Everyone who voted for Biden showed their support for Putin. Now Biden weakness gave Putin the power to do whatever. Everyone who voted for Biden needs to take responsibility for Ukraine deaths.

[QUOTE=EatALotOpus;2667215]Bradon's deterrence and fourty+ years of diplomatic know-how worked out well for Ukraine Eh? And he did that all by himself! Stand by! With the impotence of this POTUS China is acting next

We got long black winter ahead of us and it'll last for three more years.

Let's go Brandon![/QUOTE]I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2667195]Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.[/QUOTE]Electric vehicles are great. I have an electric motorbike that I use to zip all around Bangkok and I have no need to go to a gas station or to even know how much gas costs around here.

As usual, the Dems have the right idea for America and are trying to improve the economy, create good new jobs and strengthen our National Security while the Repubs are only thinking about making the corporate welfare subsidized oil industry executives wealthier and our adversaries more powerful.

[QUOTE=Canada;2667240]You are wrong again and in fantasyland. Reason we are importing 844,000 barrels a day and giving Russia $80 million dollars a day is because Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden. We can go to Canada and get 844,000 barrels a day because we have no way of transporting it. Are we going fly it to the refinery? We can't get it from Mexico because Mexico doesn't have heavy crude. Right now Biden and USA are dependent on Russia for this. Don't blame Trump. He approved the pipeline and we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president. There would not be a war in Ukraine if Trump was president as was proven in his 4 years in office. You and everyone that voted for Biden can take credit for the death toll in Ukraine. Guilty people always try to blame someone else. You if you are guilty keep blaming Trump.[/QUOTE]So, did Biden cancel the Keystone pipeline? Or did he cancel the Keystone XL pipeline?

Because when you say Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline, you are wrong. As usual. The Keystone pipeline is operational. [URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/even-without-keystone-xl-us-set-record-canadian-oil-imports-2021-01-22/[/URL].

What Biden cancelled was the Keystone XL pipeline. And although like to pin lots of blame on Biden, the fact is that the pipeline was 8% complete when he cancelled it. Now I realize that all fascists are construction jeniuses (just like they are all epidemiologists and election experts) but there is [B]absolutely no way[/B] that a pipeline project that was 8% complete when it was cancelled 1 year ago would have had any impact on either the price of oil from Canada or the price of borscht in Moscow. [URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-keystonepipelinexl-builtandpai-idUSL1N2LA2SQ[/URL].

Your "we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president" comment is a fallacy. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline[/URL].

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2667254]I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.[/QUOTE]Agreed on all counts. I find it pathetic that the same people who are now denouncing Biden as "weak" are the same people that kissed that orange buffoon's a** while he suckled at Putin's tits for four years. These are the same Republican senators and congressmen who conducted a "fact-finding" trip to Moscow over the July 4th holiday. Oh. And let's not forget the orange idiot's most recent statements kissing Putin's a** about Ukraine. Yet, despite these verifiable facts, Biden is weak? Come on. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

What exactly should Biden have done to prevent Russia from invading a sovereign country with whom we have no treaty obligations to defend? You want American troops sent to Kyiv? Should we have disbanded NATO, as Trump would have done in a second term.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2667254]I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.[/QUOTE]Didn't you just see Biden last press conference. Sanctions should have been put on Russia weeks ago to deter them. Biden did nothing and Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden and congress put sanctions on to late and now Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens. Basically do nothing like Obama did last time. Biden is a joke to society and the Putin and the world are laughing at him.

OK, let's get something straight right from the get go: Putin is the bad guy, the war criminal. Nobody but Putin is responsible for invading a peaceful, sovereign, democratic country and killing its citizens. He is following Hitler's playbook to the letter. Hitler justified the invasion Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia with the purported suffering of the ethnic Germans living in the region. I am getting deja vu all over again.

Now that said, the question must be asked: on who's watch did this travesty take place? Answer, Brandon. And who the fuck enabled this attacked by ending American's oil independence, cutting the Keystone Pipeline and all the regulatory BS on oil, natural gas ect thus allowing the Russians to become the predominant supplier of natural gas to Germany and Western Europe? A deal that brought in billions for the oligarchs and made Western Europe energy dependent on Putin's Russia. Answer, Brandon.

So what is Brandon going to do to rectify the situation he created and make sure that Putin pays a huge price for this aggression which just might deter the power hungry asshole from totally raping the Ukraine? The answer: More Sanctions! You have to be kidding me. Putin has already calculated the cost of sanctions to himself and his oligarchs and he don't care. The gain in oil price alone makes this a win win for him.

But what should President I like Vanilla Ice Cream every afternoon before I take a nap really do to bring Putin down and stop him cold in his tracks? It is simple. Reopen the American energy industry! The USA has a huge supply of oil and natural gas. More than any other region in the world. Biden could open that supply source up and offer it to the Germans and Europeans as an alternative, independent source of cheap, clean, American natural gas. Biden could say fuhgeddaboud the Russians. Fuck Putin!

As Jason Furman, a Harvard economist and former advisor to President Barack Obama, once said, "Russia's economy is "incredibly unimportant in the global economy except for oil and gas. It's basically a big gas station. " So, if the West stopped buying from Putin the Russian economy would crash and his tanks would rot in the Ukraine. But sadly, Putin thinks Biden is a weak fool who can be played. Putin would not have dared invade the Ukraine or any other country under Trump. So, what are the odds that Uncle Joe will open up the American Gas spigot and cream Putin?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2667227]So, what would Cheeto-Tweeto have done? Threaten to nuke Moscow? Actually nuke Moscow? Threaten to send in troops? Actually send in troops. Convince Putin not to release the Russian-hooker-pee-tape?

What you wingers don't understand is that Putin has wanted Ukraine for a long time. Since 1991, in fact. And, yes, I know that Putin didn't become the head Red until 2012. But somehow wingers forget that Cheeto-Tweeto campaigned in 2016 about getting the US out of NATO. He campaigned in 2020 that he would do that if re-elected.

So why would Putin need to do anything. He'd help Cheeto-Tweeto (again) get elected in 2020 and wait for him to pull the US out of NATO. Then he could just walk right in to Ukraine without firing a shot.

But Biden threw a monkey-wrench into the works by getting elected. Rather than having an ally in the White House (see recent reports of Cheeto-Tweeto praising Putin) Putin had an enemy. Biden had Putin backed into a corner. Putin wanted Ukraine but now it is going to cost him something.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right about one thing. Putin wanted Ukraine and that's why he invaded when Obama was president. He didn't get everything he wanted because Trump got elected and so he had to wait 4 years for a weak president to come in so he can finish the job. This never would have happened if Trump was president or if we had a strong democrat president.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2667225]Our enemies didn't need to start wars to thrash our economy and kill Americans while Trump was in charge. He did a better job of that than any USA enemy ever could.

And they knew it.[/QUOTE]Our enemy did start a war with the help from Biden. Biden is totally to blame for the deaths in Ukraine. The people who voted for him also have to know they helped Russia kill innocent people.