General Reports

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1271363]"My friend, I am not French. I speak several languages." [Usually relating to the ordering of brewed / distilled beverages. ] And my favourite."The cockroaches enter but do not leave." [From the NYC subway ads. ] I eat freedom fries with Heinz ketchup.

Now, to go and practice my Tagalog ordering skills.[/QUOTE]Anong gusta mo sa inuman " will work fine when asking a lady what she wants to drink."Mahal na Mahal" will work very well when she says Triple vodka with redbull LOL.

[QUOTE=Stargm; 1271706]Thanks for the report.

May I know the currency of 'donations' quoted here. I assume you mean US$.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ya we are talking in dollars.

Thank you Chantik and those who have passed before me.

I am back in Hong Kong for a business trip and I would normally have defaulted to heading over to 37 Dundas, but decided to try the Sunday D / H routine in Wan Chai.

Chantik's directions to The New Makati were spot on. I got there about 3:45 and by 4:00 the place was filling up with Indos and the place was throbbing. Many girls sat or stood around the perimeter, while others danced together in the center of the dance floor. The majority were attractive "keepers".

In short order I was approached by a very direct girl, but she started at 1, 000 and wouldn't budge below 700. I declined.

Then, another came over to talk to me. She asked if I wanted to dance. I told her that I wasn't really interested in dancing. We concluded the deal and were out of there quickly, and off to my Kowloon hotel.

This D / H was in her early 30's but very cute and doing what she could to give the GFE effect. She was holding hands on the way to the taxi and resting her hand on my upper thigh while we rode.

She got frisky in the elevator once everyone was off and then turned loose as soon as we hit the room. We had a great, enthusiastic hour or so. It was certainly more spontaneous than what I would have gotten at 37 Dundas!

I paid her 500 plus taxi fare and sent her on her way before her curfew. Thanks again Chantik for the insight and pointers!

[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1272155]Thank you Chantik and those who have passed before me.

I am back in Hong Kong for a business trip and I would normally have defaulted to heading over to 37 Dundas, but decided to try the Sunday D / H routine in Wan Chai.

Chantik's directions to The New Makati were spot on. I got there about 3:45 and by 4:00 the place was filling up with Indos and the place was throbbing.[/QUOTE]I 'll be in HK next month, and was planning a visit to KP. But RR's experience has prompted me to also include NM to my itinerary. Never done a DH in HK before.

I question for Red Rider, do you find only Indos in New Makati, or do you also get Philis? Can you communicate knowing just english?

[QUOTE=Dgpro;1271637]I use DGPRO everywhere, So PM me or twitter me .[/QUOTE]Dgpro, I assume you are a guide, so put your details in a classified ad.

The Dongguan thread is quite active, though many of the postings are from "insiders" in the sense they are mostly, but not always, from guys with Cantonese or Mandarin skills. Which is why laowai / gweilo will most certainly need to hire help to navigate the system. As mentioned by a Dongguan (also frequently referred to as Changping) poster, it's not like a Westerner can go to CP and look for sign that says "*****house" or a spa that will specify full sex availability on a billboard. It's a dusty, noisy town with few frills, though there is a movement to create golf courses and nicer facilities to cater to businessmen due to its proximity to Shenzhen.

It takes about an hour by train (HK Hung Hom station) and you will, naturally, need a Chinese visa. Duh. I spent the equivalent of about $500 US on a 1. 5-day visit. This covered a KTV party with a short-time girl from the KTV place (had negotiated it as LT, but this often happens with KTV girls, a growing point of concern with CP mongers. The bullshit level with those girls is really amped up these days.) , hotel with included buffet breakfast at a 3. 5/4-star place, the CP Peninsula, three meals, a fabulous legit massage and a BBS girl and the train ticket. It really cannot be said to be cheap outing, though on purely sex basis is considerably cheaper in Macau. My feeling is Macau is better for the sex, unless you like stupid dice games and getting touchy-feely with girls.

The claim of 1000's of girls is a vast overstatement, though many of the KTV places have a few hundred. I have not experienced the wilder places claimed by Dgpro, though I understand they do exist.

There are better established guides to Dongguan, and I recommend Big Swinging Dave, who can be PM'ed. Another fellow, a Singaporean from my understanding, is ISO 9000. Guess my point here is to say that it is not the most easily navigated places for a non-Chinese speaker. But it is worth experiencing. My current preference is the Indonesian girls at New Makati. I do not believe you will hear the words "up to you". In Mandarin, Cantonese, English or otherwise. From a Chinese girl. Nor will you necessarily get a blowjob, let alone CIM. More and more, I find myself saying "Yes!" to Indonesia.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1271249]Mate, am sat in my office in Taipei, roaring with laughter as all "zees". I'm even in a mood to tell my Frenchie amis to have a read too. Thanks for making a Friday am smile![/QUOTE]FreebieFan,

Glad you liked it, and, coming from such an esteemed poster, thanks. I wasn't quite sure how it would go over, but, needless to say I won't be quitting my real job anytime soon.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1271483]Saturday afternoon is OK.

After 4pm.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that 4-5 pmish you will find the activity well under way at New Makati. The changing of shifts to 79. 9% semipro to 99. 99 percent WG is about 10, though was told that they "are all pro's" by a fellow at the bar.

But do proceed with caution, just for the sake of being a gentleman. One of the girls, who claimed to be a resident of 3 years, told me it was only her second time at the bar. Sara, quite attractive, but my goodness the poor girl had body odour of a sort that should've cleared the dancefloor. Methinks a total WG might have been more self-aware, but who knows?

Chatted up a Filipina, said to be 30 (though her 32-year-old friend looked much younger) , petite and smart. Bought her a drink. She started into the bitching about being a schoolteacher in the Phils, degreed, and having to work in HK as a DH caring for three young kids. Hey, it's not an easy life. I would have been very interested, but I am a tad tired of dealing with young women with a chip on their shoulder. A recurring theme, broken record. It's always about them, them, them. She and the friend seemed to be conflicted about what was going on the bar, as if they were (cough) good girls. One suggested that, yes, they had "friends" who had, ahem, accepted money for, ahem, sex. I laughed and said that they had better decide whether that particular bar was the right place for them, as 100 percent of us boys are bad boys. The younger of the two said that she was looking for a job as she wasn't happy with her current DH position. Step one on the road to life as a full-time WG.

[QUOTE=Jacker777; 1272161]I 'll be in HK next month, and was planning a visit to KP. But RR's experience has prompted me to also include NM to my itinerary. Never done a DH in HK before.

I question for Red Rider, do you find only Indos in New Makati, or do you also get Philis? Can you communicate knowing just english?[/QUOTE]Jack.

You won't get far unless you talk English.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1272228]I can confirm that 4-5 pmish you will find the activity well under way at New Makati. The changing of shifts to 79. 9% semipro to 99. 99 percent WG is about 10, though was told that they "are all pro's" by a fellow at the bar.

But do proceed with caution, just for the sake of being a gentleman. One of the girls, who claimed to be a resident of 3 years, told me it was only her second time at the bar. Sara, quite attractive, but my goodness the poor girl had body odour of a sort that should've cleared the dancefloor. Methinks a total WG might have been more self-aware, but who knows?

Chatted up a Filipina, said to be 30 (though her 32-year-old friend looked much younger) , petite and smart. Bought her a drink. She started into the bitching about being a schoolteacher in the Phils, degreed, and having to work in HK as a DH caring for three young kids. Hey, it's not an easy life. I would have been very interested, but I am a tad tired of dealing with young women with a chip on their shoulder. A recurring theme, broken record. It's always about them, them, them. She and the friend seemed to be conflicted about what was going on the bar, as if they were (cough) good girls. One suggested that, yes, they had "friends" who had, ahem, accepted money for, ahem, sex. I laughed and said that they had better decide whether that particular bar was the right place for them, as 100 percent of us boys are bad boys. The younger of the two said that she was looking for a job as she wasn't happy with her current DH position. Step one on the road to life as a full-time WG.[/QUOTE]Wildhawk.

The line often used by guys to girls.

Are you a good girl or a naughty girl?

Girl answers Good Girl. Guys walk away. Girl is surprised.

No good girls in Wanchai Bars.

Red Rider.

Good to see that you negotiated a price.

The ladies know straight away that you are a new-comer. And will try to get the best price.

Jacker777: "I question for Red Rider, do you find only Indos in New Makati, or do you also get Philis? Can you communicate knowing just english?"

Well, I wasn't on the lookout for one nationality or another. I was looking for a cute girl that wanted to go back with me. I saw only a few Chinese, and from there, I don't know what the rest were. Keep in mind that this place is dark.

The girls I talked to spoke English. Keep in mind that when they come up and put one arm around you and rest the other on your thigh, the only communication needed is agreeing on the price.

Chantik: "Good to see that you negotiated a price."

I've learned that the worst place to negotiate is back at your room. If you negotiate a price at that time and the girl feels it is too low, then you are going to get an "attitude" and no GFE. It's always better to get that out of the way before you head to the hotel.

One other point to keep in mind. The girl and I left NM at about 4:15 pm. My hotel was in Kowloon and traffic at that time was heavy, so it took 30 to 40 minutes to get to the hotel. Her curfew was at 7:00 and her job was an hour north of Wan Chai, so she had to leave about 6:00. If you spend too much time at NM dancing or deciding, that can cut down on your play time.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1272218]Dgpro, I assume you are a guide, so put your details in a classified ad.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I am new to the forum, so I don't know the rules here so I am very careful with my words, cause I don't want to get the boot, and you are right it is quite impossible to have fun in DG if you don't know any mandarin / cantonese, so I am target in helping out all non native Chinese speaking bothers.

And like you say you might not get the service you want from the girls from the KTV, but you can definitely get exactly what you want at the massage palor / spa place if service is what you are looking for.

And yes KTV is more about the mood and getting some booze and have some fun, but the KTV is not just game and dice, there are also the strip portions which is a lot of fun mix with alcohol and a bunch of nude girls in your room ha ha, but yes there are a lot of girls who would give you trouble but if you know the people there they will handle it for you if you complain to the manager or the mommy, and of cause I usually don't have any trouble girls in the room cause I usually warn these girls before they even come in, and as for the 1000 girls, there is only one place which host so many girl and it is *flower, don't know if I am allow to name names, but it is quite famous and alot of people know about this place.

And thanks again for the tips I will post something on the classified, and if there any bothers who need help here I will thrill if you contact me cheers.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1272237]You won't get far unless you talk English.[/QUOTE]I only wish I spoke Cantonese or Bahasa because I have seen many really cute Indos who speak Canto / Bahasa / Java but no English.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1272032]Anong gusta mo sa inuman " will work fine when asking a lady what she wants to drink."Mahal na Mahal" will work very well when she says Triple vodka with redbull LOL.[/QUOTE]Any advice from an oracle is well received. When I ask my little Indo or Filly for a quick lesson, they usually give me pouty look and say "You do not need to know that" and snuggle a little closer. But I do. I know I am the subject of many conversations in front of me.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1272220]FreebieFan, Glad you liked it, and, coming from such an esteemed poster, thanks. I wasn't quite sure how it would go over, but, needless to say I won't be quitting my real job anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Excuse my butting in. It might not be PC but you will be surprised at how many share your sentiments on their well earned reputation. Please do tell us about your next encounter, which is sure to happen if you travel in the region.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1272237]Jack.

You won't get far unless you talk English.[/QUOTE]Chantik,

That's good news. I'm zero in Mandarin / Malay or Filli / Indon.

I'll certainly brush up my numbers for pre negotiation.

I've booked my Hotel in central WC and there'll be no time wasted in traffic.

[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1272373]Jacker777:

I've learned that the worst place to negotiate is back at your room. If you negotiate a price at that time and the girl feels it is too low, then you are going to get an "attitude" and no GFE. It's always better to get that out of the way before you head to the hotel.[/QUOTE]I agree completely where a WG is concerned but I have to confess that when I find out through chit / chat at the bar (particularly in NM) that the girl is a DW and she is willing to see what kind of hotel room I have before her curfew is up, I have never raised in advance, the subject of payment or how much. More importantly, neither has the girl.

I give a "present" of $500 to treat herself to something after our mutual satisfaction is over and have never met with anything other than a big smile and a "thank you". Sometimes I add a taxi fare. Never met a problem other than they want to see you again (if you call that a problem).