Monterrey

Bob,

I think you do not know yet. You have your own thread dude. No one removed your old posts or mine. Look for it.

Anyways, I just called 2 of my girls and setup a hotel meeting with them. I may have jumped the gun. I am now stuck. I will have to figure out how to tell each one to disappear while I go look for the others or before another one shows up at my door. Then if one shows up before the first leaves, I'm gonna have to ask Mr "L" to claim what I have as his. Do you think the girls would play along? What have I done?

How do you tell a girl to please leave because I have another one arriving soon? Last time I did this to "X", she got angry, left her lunch and took a hike. I felt real bad and was very nice to her the next day to make up for my rudeness. What a dilemma. What a welcome dilemma.

I know USB is itching to comment .. and I know exactly what he wants to say :) .. I guess I will read about all it on his new thread.

Wasted

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]A wise, amicable, concilliatory, and financially intelligent settlement...uhmmmm, very interesting indeed. Perhaps I have misjudged Jackson afterall. I will have to investigate the cost of becoming a lifetime member at this juncture. :-) Is there such as thing as becoming a lifetime member, and cuanto cuesta? It is not posted on the home page is it? Most of these sites have a lifetime member provision. Wouldn't being a lifetime member insulate me from all kinds of shit?

Of course, with the Administration removing all the former offending posts, from both sides, this negates my threat to go "dark" for 30 days. But, don't fret, those of you that are quaking from the possibilities, that you may have to read my drivel infinatum, I promise to be just the same old USB as always, but with perhaps a discerning eye toward being a better, more politically correct, new and improved Spongebob.

Thank you Jackson...[/QUOTE]

Ask you questions sir... that's why we are here.
Am not kidding.
Am local, Wasted will be here for the weekend (his umphteen trip) and USB will vist Monterrey at the end of the month
Business as usual.

Tell us where you will be staying (so you can know if you hotel is girl friendly) and what are your preferences.... MPs, SC (although SC are my forté I can help you out with MPs).



[QUOTE=Mastermind]Hi. Now that Bob has his own thread, will there be some actual trip reports about finding hot Regias in this thread? I will be going to Monterrey next week and look forward to postig a nice, long report. And yes, all the long posts were actually discourageing me from making a post here.

Ding Dong the witch is dead?[/QUOTE]

I have solid info on the changes happening at the Casino and the Harem strip clubs.

Yes, the owners did change the rules, made the girls accept a quota so they could get their daily salary.
Casino is changing into a medium high priced club that will include jacuzzi's for the customers that want to spend over 4000 pesos for an hour with a girl and yes, they are trying to fend off the competition of the Nefertiti (a club I haven't been to yet).
Nefertiti is on the Southern part of the city, close to Colorado's MC (part of the ultra expensive Amnesia family) an area where supposedly there was no business for SC (family areas), but no, there is business for small, not so expensive clubs.
The Nefertiti is running circles around the Colorado and with a vengance.
So to atract business to the West Madero Ave area, the owner of the Prestige is building his little Prestige type club, not as expensive as the Presitge, more on the level of the Poisson MC.
Dunno if the trick will work....

The Harem... well, the Harem girls stampeded en mass when a quota was layed over their heads... but the place just went down... totally.
The difference between the Casino and the Harem is size.
Casino is bigger then the Harem.
The Harem has now where to go but up and there is no "up" to go to.
So the Harem will be the same Harem.
The girls started trickling back when the House decided to losen the noose of the quota (formerly 6 drinks and 12 privados)... I don't know what is the new quota, but it is not as strick as the old one.

I still need to check Casino more....



[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]While Unspongebob and Wasted trade love letters, the Fearless Leader of Monterrey club hopping (that being, me) has done some checking on the Casino-Harem change of rules.

Unfortunately the bad news is here to stay.
Casino has indeed started to ante up prices and change policies, dance policies and girl policies to make the joint classier.

Harem has also stepped up the presure on the girls so the House can get more money.

Acording to this the girls now have a quota of drinks and table dances to get their salary.
They now have to make 12 dances and 6 drinks if they want their daily bread.

All this is due to the fact that:
1. the girls abused a lot, getting into the business and just staying in the dressing room till 1 am.
2. The girls just not doing their job which is getting money into the House's wallet.
3. In all, the House is right up to the point that the girls were just staying in the dressing rooms, chatting, SMSing or just sleeping.
4. The part that will be damaging is that the girls will just be intrested in drinks and privados and to hell with the customers.....

I still need to check the prices part....[/QUOTE]

You have more than one girl?
Can I help????

Infinito MC is the best club in town... you'll notice the change in girls when you get in....


[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Bob,

I think you do not know yet. You have your own thread dude. No one removed your old posts or mine. Look for it.

Anyways, I just called 2 of my girls and setup a hotel meeting with them. I may have jumped the gun. I am now stuck. I will have to figure out how to tell each one to disappear while I go look for the others or before another one shows up at my door. Then if one shows up before the first leaves, I'm gonna have to ask Mr "L" to claim what I have as his. Do you think the girls would play along? What have I done?

How do you tell a girl to please leave because I have another one arriving soon? Last time I did this to "X", she got angry, left her lunch and took a hike. I felt real bad and was very nice to her the next day to make up for my rudeness. What a dilemma. What a welcome dilemma.

I know USB is itching to comment .. and I know exactly what he wants to say :) .. I guess I will read about all it on his new thread.

Wasted[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mastermind]

Ding Dong the witch is dead?[/QUOTE]


Don't start celebrating too early...and, whom is abusing whom?

Hey Carlos

Yes. As you know I was there on Monday and I did notice the change of girls at Infinito. I actually had a privado with a fresh Guadalajaran girl (the blonde)in the new section they had just opened on the other side of the club. Much cleaner but also much brighter.

Regarding the quotas, please illuminate the unkowledgeable here regarding its actual definition. If the girls fail to meet the quota of 6 drinks and 12 privados, exactly what happens to them? And is this number for a weekend shift? Those numbers seem a bit presumptuous and actually downright unachievable for some, if not most girls.

Heading back out tonight to the Tangalay in search of a certain "Sharon". Wasted, if you are in town and you happen to run into her, save some for me.

I will be visiting Monterrey at the end of the month, and I plan to write a long trip report.

Frankly, I love USBs reports. I wonder why?

I look foward to many more to come. I would advise him to post his philosophical drivel in the "USB Discussion" section however, and the trip reports here, lest his detractors have a frickin' coronary thombosis, verdad?

We are talking 2 clubs here.
The quota for the Harem is 6 drinks and 12 privados.
The quota for the Infinito is 30 privados and 4 drinks.
If they don't make the quota, the girls are only paid commisions. If they make the quota they get paid 450 pesos plus the commisions.
At the Infinito they get 10 pesos per drink and 25 per privado. If they make the quota they can total around 1200 pesos, plus the extras they get for F/S.

Now am asking the question: what new section at the Infinito?


[QUOTE=Precocious One]Hey Carlos

Yes. As you know I was there on Monday and I did notice the change of girls at Infinito. I actually had a privado with a fresh Guadalajaran girl (the blonde)in the new section they had just opened on the other side of the club. Much cleaner but also much brighter.

Regarding the quotas, please illuminate the unkowledgeable here regarding its actual definition. If the girls fail to meet the quota of 6 drinks and 12 privados, exactly what happens to them? And is this number for a weekend shift? Those numbers seem a bit presumptuous and actually downright unachievable for some, if not most girls.

Heading back out tonight to the Tangalay in search of a certain "Sharon". Wasted, if you are in town and you happen to run into her, save some for me.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it is not a new section but it is one that I was never aware of. It is in the back room close to the big sceen tv. Up a flight of stairs to a very well-lit room.

Back to the quotas. Twelve privados? Hopefully, that is for a weekend shift. The girl I favor at Pasaralas claimed she makes around 1500/month, but then again, she is one of the more desirable ones. How much do you think a quality girl makes at the Harem per month?

Regarding the Pasaralas girl who claimed to make 1500/month, that number is irrelevant because I failed to ask her exactly how many shifts and how many hours were needed to obtain that number as I, as well as my hands, were somewhat preoccupied. However, I do believe she works three shifts a week.

PO, stop pressuring me man. You know I have a weakness for the soft kind. ;-)

If I step foot into Tangalay, it will be the end of me. I have a monster who will not leave me a lone and another who starts to shake and heart beats faster when she sees me. Not to mention one waiter who think I am made of money.

However, I do appreciate that you are welling to share. Something I have been trying some certain person, whose name begin with Carlos Perez, to learn. He still hides his girls from me. That selfish son of a fish.

I may take the risk and pay Tangalay a visit. But be warned, I eat fast.



[QUOTE=Precocious One]
Heading back out tonight to the Tangalay in search of a certain "Sxxxxn". Wasted, if you are in town and you happen to run into her, save some for me.[/QUOTE]

Mastermind.
Difference between SEA, TJ, Mexico city and Monterrey is a whole new world.
You'll find sometimes that girls might be to pro-ish, but you'll notice first hand the difference in girl quality.
All clubs, be it expensive to moderate priced ones offer incall services.
But they work in the sense that some offer a nice space, some a tiny booth.
No TJ Adelitas here. Start form that.
Many girls will attack you with their point of view that "everything is for us, not you the customer".
In other words, they will be honest enough to say that they are in for the money.
But with your experience, you will be able to blend into the scenery...

Any more questions sir???




[QUOTE=Mastermind]Carlos,

I will be staying at the Best Western on Juarez. I've heard about the PDA, but for business reasons I have to stay at the Best Western. I don't think its too important because I prefer not to have salidas and take care of my business on-site. I suppose that if Iwant to order take out, there are plenty of motels de paso in the area?

as for my preferences, I prefer to go where the action is plentiful and the prices aren;t crazy so I really have no preferences- just, I stay away from street girls.

I have about 25 years experience mongering in SEA and Mexico, in Tijuana, Mexico City and a couple of other places. What differences can I expect when I get to Monterrey?

Looking forward to defrocking some of the beautiful regias next week.[/QUOTE]

if you are referring to another bw, some other one located on juarez, well then, hopefully this will help some other mongers visiting the city. this information, until now, has been part of my private stash, known only to my close amigos.

if you are referring to the bw, juarez and madero, the rate i had been paying there was 490 pesos, which i had negotiated with the owner. her name is pamela, she speaks fluent english. she will give you a better rate on the hotel room than their published rate, and she can be helpful if you have any complaints during your stay because of the language issues. i had been paying 490 pesos, including tax.

but, it has recently gone up considerably. they just became a best western franchise, and the cost of doing so has escalated. bw has demanded they install an elevator there and the cost of same must be astronomical. so, hence the rate hike. they have not installed an elevator yet, by the way. you will have to lug all of your baggage up to your room. depending on the length of my stays, that can sometimes give me a pretty good work out, especially if they put you on the fourth floor :-)

i realize that you are probably on expense account, and the room rate may not matter particularly to your own pocket book, but this may help you at times when you are on your own, or choose to return without any reliance on company expense account. hopefully, it will also benefit others who may choose to visit monterrey, so i am being thorough in my descriptions of what one can expect if one stays at this hotel.

i think the last time i was there, literally last month, the rate had skyrocketed to 570 pesos with tax. but, if you talk to pamela first, tell her i sent you, she will probably extend a decent rate to you. just tell them their regular gringo, the guy with the cookies, sent you, and that should do the trick. the woman working at the front desk on days, geniveve, as well as all the male personnel working the reception desk on the nights shifts, know me well...better than i would prefer. the women don't know anything, at least as far as i can tell...but, people do talk.

here are some tips about that hotel that will make your stay more enjoyable. first, realize that they do not have air conditioning controlled from the rooms. they can turn the air on from the front desk. but, if you don't stay on them, your room will become quite hot during the day. there is no thermostatic control in those rooms, and once they turn off your air, they forget about you possibly being uncomfortable in the rooms. it will be very hot in monterrey this time of year, and your comfort level will be of prime importance to you, especially if you bring a girl back to your hotel.

they have a norte americano style free buffet in the mornings, toast, fruta, coffee...but, lately, this hotel's business has escalated considerably. for that reason, getting your opportunity at the toaster has become quite difficult. leave yourself plenty of time in the mornings before going off to work, or you might not get breakfast. also, they only have one waitress, and she works her arse off when they're busy. so, getting waited on can sometimes be a challenge.

i believe their best rooms are on the second floor, ask them for room 116 or 117, those two rooms, while small, are good accomodations otherwise, 116 being the bigger of the two with the larger queen sized bed.

that particular hotel is girl friendly for salidas. but, they do have a well established "legitimate" clientele, one that requires us to be discrete lest we ruin our "salida" opportunities. the bw that is situated on the next block, east on maderio, is not girl friendly. that bw had some kind of **** scandel that made them put a stop to it. but, prior to that, even they were girl friendly, although perhaps slightly more difficult to utilize because of a prevailing reluctant attitude from the male clerks that i always had to seemingly endure.

my point here is that there are not too many hotels in monterrey that are girl friendly. if you are staying at the bw at the corner of madero and juarez, you are lucky, because it is one of the very few that aren't flea bags, and/or short timer hotels that are girl friendly. if your employer requires you to stay at a bw, and this is not the one you refer to in your question to carlos, i suggest you prevail upon them to change to this one if possible. at least, it is girl friendly for salidas, and the others probably are not.

and, my friend, if you are an experienced visitor to sea, and the other mongering capitals of world, i believe you will find monterrey to be a relatively frustrating experience. not necessarily a bad experience, but one where a wing man might prove invaluable.

i am regularly accused of being too lengthy in my comments in this section, and i am sincerely attempting to remedy that. but, i don't know how to give you this imformation otherwise. i apologize if these comments are too lengthy.

if you want me to tell you why you will experience a "funk" in monterrey compared to other parts of the world, then come over to my section, and i will explain in detail so your stay in monterrey will be more enjoyable for you. the opportunities for considerable fun are there, but don't think for 2 seconds that your same expectations will be equally met in monterrey without significant tutelage, at least from carlos on the ground, or from one of the regular visitors. i have more commentary about the hotel if you're interested...

i am cutting myself off here, but there is sooo much more... :-))))))))))

as they say in thailand, up to you...

[quote=mastermind]carlos,

i will be staying at the best western on juarez. i've heard about the pda, but for business reasons i have to stay at the best western. i don't think its too important because i prefer not to have salidas and take care of my business on-site. i suppose that if iwant to order take out, there are plenty of motels de paso in the area?

as for my preferences, i prefer to go where the action is plentiful and the prices aren;t crazy so i really have no preferences- just, i stay away from street girls.

i have about 25 years experience mongering in sea and mexico, in tijuana, mexico city and a couple of other places. what differences can i expect when i get to monterrey?

looking forward to defrocking some of the beautiful regias next week.[/quote]

no usb, he is refering to the best western centro on juarez.
your's is on madero.
bw centro is a much better hotel, higher in quality and standards... and a higher rate and non-girlfriendly as are the rest of the monterrey hotels.

now that you mention the the bw on madero, am sure one of the bw norms to follow will be added security... sorry to tell you but that will mean a better care of who does or does not belong in a room.


and mastermind, please disregard this usb comment: "i believe you will find monterrey to be a relatively frustrating experience."
my friend usb is really picky, to darn high standards... there are tons of girls for you to pick mastermind.
the only thing you have to have in mind is that monterrey is big (3.9 million) and the clubs and mps thrive on local customers, not tourists as in sea.
here the average customer is 30 years old and you have to compete with customers that are 20 somethings with money in their pockets, money they are willing to spend.
that places monterrey a notch into the expensive and that places the clubs as a better option for the girls... they don't have to leave the premises to get money into their purses.
average price for a girl is 90 dlls plus whatever bar fine the house charges for 1-2 hours.
anyway, i am 48 and that hasn't stopped me from having right now at the moment, 4 regular girlfriend (down from 6, with 2 that have gone awol).

being someone that knows the tj scene will help you catch up fast here in monterrey.
the style might be different, but the game is the same.






[quote=unospongebob]if you are referring to another bw, some other one located on juarez, well then, hopefully this will help some other mongers visiting the city. this information, until now, has been part of my private stash, known only to my close amigos.

if you are referring to the bw, juarez and madero, the rate i had been paying there was 490 pesos, which i had negotiated with the owner. her name is pamela, she speaks fluent english. she will give you a better rate on the hotel room than their published rate, and she can be helpful if you have any complaints during your stay because of the language issues. i had been paying 490 pesos, including tax.

but, it has recently gone up considerably. they just became a best western franchise, and the cost of doing so has escalated. bw has demanded they install an elevator there and the cost of same must be astronomical. so, hence the rate hike. they have not installed an elevator yet, by the way. you will have to lug all of your baggage up to your room. depending on the length of my stays, that can sometimes give me a pretty good work out, especially if they put you on the fourth floor :-)

i realize that you are probably on expense account, and the room rate may not matter particularly to your own pocket book, but this may help you at times when you are on your own, or choose to return without any reliance on company expense account. hopefully, it will also benefit others who may choose to visit monterrey, so i am being thorough in my descriptions of what one can expect if one stays at this hotel.

i think the last time i was there, literally last month, the rate had skyrocketed to 570 pesos with tax. but, if you talk to pamela first, tell her i sent you, she will probably extend a decent rate to you. just tell them their regular gringo, the guy with the cookies, sent you, and that should do the trick. the woman working at the front desk on days, geniveve, as well as all the male personnel working the reception desk on the nights shifts, know me well...better than i would prefer. the women don't know anything, at least as far as i can tell...but, people do talk.

here are some tips about that hotel that will make your stay more enjoyable. first, realize that they do not have air conditioning controlled from the rooms. they can turn the air on from the front desk. but, if you don't stay on them, your room will become quite hot during the day. there is no thermostatic control in those rooms, and once they turn off your air, they forget about you possibly being uncomfortable in the rooms. it will be very hot in monterrey this time of year, and your comfort level will be of prime importance to you, especially if you bring a girl back to your hotel.

they have a norte americano style free buffet in the mornings, toast, fruta, coffee...but, lately, this hotel's business has escalated considerably. for that reason, getting your opportunity at the toaster has become quite difficult. leave yourself plenty of time in the mornings before going off to work, or you might not get breakfast. also, they only have one waitress, and she works her arse off when they're busy. so, getting waited on can sometimes be a challenge.

i believe their best rooms are on the second floor, ask them for room 116 or 117, those two rooms, while small, are good accomodations otherwise, 116 being the bigger of the two with the larger queen sized bed.

that particular hotel is girl friendly for salidas. but, they do have a well established "legitimate" clientele, one that requires us to be discrete lest we ruin our "salida" opportunities. the bw that is situated on the next block, east on maderio, is not girl friendly. that bw had some kind of **** scandel that made them put a stop to it. but, prior to that, even they were girl friendly, although perhaps slightly more difficult to utilize because of a prevailing reluctant attitude from the male clerks that i always had to seemingly endure.

my point here is that there are not too many hotels in monterrey that are girl friendly. if you are staying at the bw at the corner of madero and juarez, you are lucky, because it is one of the very few that aren't flea bags, and/or short timer hotels that are girl friendly. if your employer requires you to stay at a bw, and this is not the one you refer to in your question to carlos, i suggest you prevail upon them to change to this one if possible. at least, it is girl friendly for salidas, and the others probably are not.

and, my friend, if you are an experienced visitor to sea, and the other mongering capitals of world, i believe you will find monterrey to be a relatively frustrating experience. not necessarily a bad experience, but one where a wing man might prove invaluable.

i am regularly accused of being too lengthy in my comments in this section, and i am sincerely attempting to remedy that. but, i don't know how to give you this imformation otherwise. i apologize if these comments are too lengthy.

if you want me to tell you why you will experience a "funk" in monterrey compared to other parts of the world, then come over to my section, and i will explain in detail so your stay in monterrey will be more enjoyable for you. the opportunities for considerable fun are there, but don't think for 2 seconds that your same expectations will be equally met in monterrey without significant tutelage, at least from carlos on the ground, or from one of the regular visitors. i have more commentary about the hotel if you're interested...

i am cutting myself off here, but there is sooo much more... :-))))))))))

as they say in thailand, up to you...[/quote]

Ok, I stand corrected. I hope it does not go the way of the other hotels because it has one amenity that spoils me totally, something that is totally lacking at PDA. BW is quiet with respect to street noise, as in no windows whatsoever in the rooms. Perhaps that's a fire hazzard, but almost nothing burns in Monterrey anyway. I have never, in five years, seen a fire truck going code 3 in Monterrey.

Regarding added security, there is an old blind guy that sits there at the door at night....hopefully he is their security upgrade :-) I have him in my pocket too :-)

With regard to my negatively perceived comment regarding the frustration level in MTY, perhaps you are correct, perhaps I have high standards...I accept that. But, you know me...do I not return frequently, a glutton for blissful punishment no doubt...a never ending search for perfection? :-)

No, my comments are not meant to be perceived as "critical," but to suggest that one that is used to a SEA type of experience should prepare for a different kind of venue than they might otherwise be used to...Not bad, certainly, but structured totally differently. On the other hand, if comparing it to TJ, he will undoubtly think he has died and gone to heaven, but his wallet will have less of a cushion.

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]No USB, he IS refering to the Best Western Centro ON Juarez.
Your's is ON Madero.
BW Centro is a much better hotel, higher in quality and standards... and a higher rate and non-girlfriendly as are the rest of the Monterrey hotels.

Now that you mention the the BW on Madero, am sure one of the BW norms to follow will be added security... sorry to tell you but that will mean a better care of who does or does not belong in a room.


And Mastermind, please disregard this USB comment: "I believe you will find Monterrey to be a relatively frustrating experience."
My friend USB is really picky, to darn high standards... there are tons of girls for you to pick Mastermind.
The only thing you have to have in mind is that Monterrey is big (3.9 million) and the clubs and MPs thrive on local customers, not tourists as in SEA.
Here the average customer is 30 years old and you have to compete with customers that are 20 somethings with money in their pockets, money they are willing to spend.
That places Monterrey a notch into the expensive and that places the clubs as a better option for the girls... they don't have to leave the premises to get money into their purses.
Average price for a girl is 90 dlls plus whatever bar fine the House charges for 1-2 hours.
Anyway, I am 48 and that hasn't stopped me from having right now at the moment, 4 regular girlfriend (down from 6, with 2 that have gone AWOL).

Being someone that knows the TJ scene will help you catch up fast here in Monterrey.
The style might be different, but the game is the same.[/QUOTE]