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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1528760]Good observations Brymor. Don't be a cheap charlie especially if they are non pro (say they are at college etc) and a 1000 pesos is cheap charlie territory IMHO. I also pay the taxi fare more so if the girl has come a long way. A nice touch and what is 200 pesos to a guy who has paid much more to fly over from the USA for example and stay in a nice hotel (unless you are one of the very cheap punters I have had the 'pleasure' of meeting and seeing in Cebu).

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Now some may disagree entirely with the above and like being cheap and saving 100-200 pesos and showing the girl they are cheap, but not me. It pays dividends if you pay a tad more, show some respect and are a nice guy (albeit horny as hell and at times for some of us, kinky as well LOL).[/QUOTE]The key to WR's generous approach is hiding within the parentheses. With non-pro's especially, he pushes girls past their comfort zone with bondage, anal etc. So long as he is generous, there is no fault. But his standards for compensation do not apply to the generic session of lick, suck and f*k. Myself, I like a bonus system-P500 extra if I'm left happy enough to want to invite her back.

There might also be an add-on for students of a 4-year college, verified by current student i.d. card, printed class schedule, etc. If she doesn't know how, or is unable to provide proof of current ("this sem") enrollment, she is assuredly not a student.

[QUOTE=Cbea20;1534328]The key to WR's generous approach is hiding within the parentheses. With non-pro's especially, he pushes girls past their comfort zone with bondage, anal etc. So long as he is generous, there is no fault. .[/QUOTE]Not really I pay the same regardless and you will surprised if you are kind, respectful (but kinky LOL) , and treat them well, then all is well. Many college girls know all about bondage, anal etc from classmates with very naughty westerner boyfriends / husbands and some tell me they want to try. One recently confessed she liked being "slapped around" and her office co worker (well known to me) had told to ask WR as he would let her enjoy that normal past time LOL. She has visited me twice in the last 3 days so I am doing something right and I don't contribute as she does not want.

So assuming that some pay more as we have what you may consider "odd' tastes is not correct.

Roger, the phrase "odd tastes" is yours, not mine. You also described your tastes as "kinky" in a previous post in this discussion. I bent over backward to be non-judgmental. As I often do, I tried to understand the girl's experience. I said that you push some girls past their comfort level and go outside their expectation of what a "vanilla" P4P session will be. Not to mention taking photographs. So all things considered, it's appropriate to pay a surcharge. As long as the money suits them, they will accommodate.

As for sending her friends to you afterward, I'm skeptical that this demonstrates enjoyment. It's not my experience that filipinas have sharing personalities, even with their BFFs. It may be that you are ready to keep going, but the girl is unable to sit comfortably for a few days. So to keep you happy, she sends a stand-in.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1534445]Not really I pay the same regardless and you will surprised if you are kind, respectful (but kinky LOL) , and treat them well, then all is well. Many college girls know all about bondage, anal etc from classmates with very naughty westerner boyfriends / husbands and some tell me they want to try. One recently confessed she liked being "slapped around" and her office co worker (well known to me) had told to ask WR as he would let her enjoy that normal past time LOL. She has visited me twice in the last 3 days so I am doing something right and I don't contribute as she does not want.

So assuming that some pay more as we have what you may consider "odd' tastes is not correct.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cbea20; 1535907]Roger, the phrase "odd tastes" is yours, not mine. You also described your tastes as "kinky" in a previous post in this discussion. I bent over backward to be non-judgmental. As I often do, I tried to understand the girl's experience. I said that you push some girls past their comfort level and go outside their expectation of what a "vanilla" P4P session will be. Not to mention taking photographs. So all things considered, it's appropriate to pay a surcharge. As long as the money suits them, they will accommodate.

As for sending her friends to you afterward, I'm skeptical that this demonstrates enjoyment. It's not my experience that filipinas have sharing personalities, even with their BFFs. It may be that you are ready to keep going, but the girl is unable to sit comfortably for a few days. So to keep you happy, she sends a stand-in.[/QUOTE]You have lost the thread completely. If you visited Cebu and met the girls as others have you will know that your last FR is completely misinformed. Look at other contributors here such as AR, WC, CS etc, all have friends who find or bring other friends, so what is odd about that. All take photos etc so again what is odd.

Life can be fun if you stop analyzing things from everyone's viewpoint and many would agree that while some of us are "odd" we are kind hearted etc and that is another reason why they return to see us (as well as nice, respectful, interesting, funny and we don't call them, etc)

But enough said, as this is getting no one anywhere LOL.

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As for sending her friends to you afterward, I'm skeptical that this demonstrates enjoyment. [b]It's not my experience that filipinas have sharing personalities, even with their BFFs. [/b] It may be that you are ready to keep going, but the girl is unable to sit comfortably for a few days. So to keep you happy, she sends a stand-in.[/QUOTE]I am intrigued by a portion of your post that states Filipinas do not have sharing personalities. It's certainly not the same Philippines that I, and a lot of others have experienced. If you have spent any meaningful length of time in the Philippines you will be exposed to the type of friendly generosity that is ingrained in the Philippines. Families share whatever food they have with each other. Friends share things back and forth. It's a cultural thing and if you have never experienced it, you have A, not spent enough time in the Philippines around simple families, or B you have only had experiences with pros or C, you lie to the Filipinas.

When it comes to a Filipina that offers up a friend, cousin, auntie, ate, classmate ect for an afternoon delight, then it's a subjective thing. The guys that experience this type of generosity on a regular basis are guys that treat Filipinas like equals. I can say from experience that once a level of respect and understanding has been reached the offers come. Money is often not the primary reason why they come back again and again and offer up other sexual partner possibilities. It's respect, being well treated and it all comes down to them accepting and understanding that marriage is not possible. Once they view you not as a potential husband / serious BF the nature of the relationship changes and the sharing begins.

Guys who lie to Filipinas and promise marriage to get them into bed, or get them to believe they are BF / GF never experience the delight of the share network because to the Filipina they are a couple. Almost all Filipinas will have different levels of tampo-ness, and she will be jealous if she thinks you are hers. When they know you are only there for fun and you treat them right the jealousy aspect is removed from the relationship and the offers to share flow.

Add to the mix a vibe (or 5!) , costumes, fantasy or role play, naughty picturex2 time, lite BDSM, threesomes foursomes, the urge to experiment and have fun is what drives them, not the money. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Cbea20;1535907]As for sending her friends to you afterward, I'm skeptical that this demonstrates enjoyment. It's not my experience that filipinas have sharing personalities, even with their BFFs. It may be that you are ready to keep going, but the girl is unable to sit comfortably for a few days. So to keep you happy, she sends a stand-in.[/QUOTE]Not my experience at all!

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1535977]You have lost the thread completely. If you visited Cebu and met the girls as others have you will know that your last FR is completely misinformed.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1536186]I am intrigued by a portion of your post that states Filipinas do not have sharing personalities. It's certainly not the same Philippines that I, and a lot of others have experienced.

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Add to the mix a vibe (or 5!) , costumes, fantasy or role play, naughty picturex2 time, lite BDSM, threesomes foursomes, the urge to experiment and have fun is what drives them, not the money. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Well said WR and especially SA. It always, I repeat always, pays off in the long run not to lie to or mislead these girls. I've met plenty of girls here who if you are honest with them about what you seek are more then willing to still meet you. If you treat them well and with respect, and I don't mean being overly generous in a financial sense, then most will be glad to intro you to their friends, etc. For some it is partially motivated by money and they want to share the wealth within their circle of friends / family, but that goes right back to their culture of sharing! IMHO it has nothing to do with them wanting to shrug you off and send a "stand-in".

Was able to get a 59 day visa right at CEB, no hassles and really quick despite the large crowd passing through. When I first walked down the ramp and entered the immigration area I thought "Oh shit, I'm going to be here all f'ing night!".

When you enter the immigration area look to the left of the booths, there's a single door there marked "Supervisor's Office". It was open with a few people inside (officers and travelers) , even so I still knocked and was motioned in. The Captain in charge was the closest and I asked him if I could get a 59 visa there or would I have to go to the BIA office in Mandaue. He motioned me right to his desk and said it wouldn't be problem. I gave him my passport, which already contained the completed immigration form and 3, 000p. He scanned my passport, the immigration form and did a quick NBI computer check; then he called over a junior officer and sent him off to the cashier.

We started to chat about how busy it was (three planes with mostly Koreans and Chinese) , he expressed his frustration about the Chinese and especially the Koreans (I won't repeat the derogatory remarks he used, but he had me laughing so hard I was almost in tears!). He was ranting primarily about their utter lack of being able to accurately fill out the simple immigration form, despite the fact that the majority of them seemed to have fair to good knowledge of English. He told me that he really appreciated the fact that I had my paper work filled out properly and money ready. In just a few minutes the other officer returned with the receipt, my passport and change (the visa fee = 2, 273. 50p). The Captain, after stamping my passport and making the necessary notations, then escorted me past the immigration booths (I'm sure much to the consternation of some of my fellow passengers as well as the many other travelers, LOL). All in all, I think to entire process took less then 10 minutes.

There is the possibility of a typhoon hitting Cebu City on Tuesday or Wednesday. Tropical Depression 05W, nicknamed "Domeng" by PAGASA will most likely bring some wind and heavy rain to the Visayas. The rain is needed as the hot and dry summer season is here.

Currently there is no real concern about serious damage, but you never know. A summer typhoon forming and hitting the Philippines is rare. If someone plans to take a flight or ferry this week, best to keep a watchful eye on things.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2014/04/06/domeng-maintains-strength-336975[/url]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1551509]There is the possibility of a typhoon hitting Cebu City on Tuesday or Wednesday.[/url][/QUOTE]Well that's a nice welcome gift for me.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1551509]There is the possibility of a typhoon hitting Cebu City on Tuesday or Wednesday. Tropical Depression 05W, nicknamed "Domeng" by PAGASA will most likely bring some wind and heavy rain to the Visayas. The rain is needed as the hot and dry summer season is here.

Currently there is no real concern about serious damage, but you never know. A summer typhoon forming and hitting the Philippines is rare. If someone plans to take a flight or ferry this week, best to keep a watchful eye on things.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2014/04/06/domeng-maintains-strength-336975[/url][/QUOTE]Welcome back David33. Thanks for bringing the nice weather with you LOL (this where you smileys!)

Seriously what this news will mean is super drama with all your pinay contacts and claims of lost roofs, damaged houses etc. As some did after Yolanda but the problem was they were living in Cavite an Batangas at the time they text me asking for help.

So to beware is forewarned gentlemen.

Pretty frequent at J-Ave / around Mango Square and usually with table full of female friends.

[quote]Originally Posted by Ira Johnson [View Original Post]

Thai vs Pinay Question- Threesomes and Beaches

My Chinese bride and I are planning a July trip, either to Thailand or Philippines. Priority 1 is a good beach, but she is very insistent that she wants to enjoy another girl or two with me (see my post a few months ago in Makati thread).[/QUOTE]BTW, great report of your Makati 3some, thanks!

[quote]One take-away from our inaugural threesome is that even if the girl is P4P, she wants the girl to be into it, to enjoy being with a guy and a girl.

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I'd like your recommendations: Thai girls or Filipinas for a threesome? Which place am I likely to find more willing and interested participants (free or P4P)? If Phils, can you recommend a place in Cebu with a great beach?

Ideally I'd love one-stop shopping – plentiful girls and a great beach – but I've not yet encountered that in Thailand.

Your opinions are deeply appreciated.[/QUOTE]I can't comment on Thai girls or Thailand as I've never been there. I can only give some info about Cebu and the many bi-girls there. As most readers here know, I have a penchant for 3somes and I too really like it when the girls are into each other as well as into me. I have had plenty of "fakers", girls who say they're bi or lesbian, only to find out later that they're not really into eating pussy. And it does take a bit of effort to screen them out (although some can still be fun).

Hate to burst your bubble, but as far as Cebu City or the main island of Cebu is concerned you won't find exactly what you're looking for; plenty of bi girls to be found (it takes a bit of work, but they're there) , but no white sand beaches teaming with horny bi-sexual or bi-curious girls.

If you want a nice beach your options are very limited as there are none within a short ride (day trip) from the city. There are some public beaches, but they tend to be brown sand, somewhat dirty and the water, though clean, is more of a mud flat until you hit deeper water (you didn't say if you just want a beach to lie on or to swim / snorkel / dive).

The few nicer beaches tend to be well away from the city, like up past Catmon (Alegre Resort & Spa) , at Malapascua (see thread "Other Areas", May 4, 2013 for some discussion about it) , or down towards Alcoy / Oslob; either that you have to go over to Bohol (Panglao Island). Even over in Moalboal, no nice beaches per say. Only beach areas there are private ones attached to the various resorts and most are quite small (ranging from about 20 to 50 meters long). Although the sand is white it tends to be studded with broken coral / sea shells and sharp rocks; so if you do go bring a pair of surf shoes. Also, it's a BYOG place, I did notice a couple of FL's wandering around, but its hit and miss; and I wouldn't count on finding a bi-girl simply wandering around there. Of course you may get lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it. Even pre-arranging via a dating site could be tough. Other then scuba diving (which is great) , swimming and relaxing, there's not much else to do there (the same applies to Alcoy too). There's a small strip of bars and restos (most offer fresh caught seafood that is terrific and reasonably priced) , but they tend to be filled with tourists, mostly older couples, who are there to dive.

The closet you'll come to what you seek would be the man made beaches attached to a few of the resorts on Mactan Island, which tend to be expensive (you make no mention of your budget) , but you may have some problems getting regular girls from the city to visit there (even though it's only about a 30-60 minute ride, depending on traffic & on what side of the city they live, they think it's the other end of the world, LOL). The few bi P4P girls who can be found on CL would probably make the trip, but you'd have to factor in an extra 500-750p or so for a taxi (round trip) ; with one exception I know who lives on Mactan (I'll PM you about her if you do decide to go to Cebu).

Frankly speaking I don't think you'll find anywhere in the Phils that meets your exact criteria, namely surf, sand and plentiful bi-sexual pussy. The only exception might be Puerto Galera / Sabang Beach or perhaps Boracay, but I haven't been to either yet and can't describe the beaches; one long beach studded with resorts or the same as Moalboal, resorts with small private beaches?

I am going to visit Cebu soon, for the first time since 2003 when I was living in Manila (I live in China now). I am considering hotel options at present.

I used to stay at the Marriott. But I did not particularly enjoy the scene at Ayala Mall. Even just walking the less than 100 m to the Mall, I would be accosted by (older) girls sitting on the low branches of the smaller trees. Very aggressive, and would grab you if you came close.

Inside the Mall, young girls (usually in pairs, and sometimes very young) would come up and ask [I]"Can I come home with you?"[/I].

I am a freebie fan and enjoy the challenge of meeting SYTs. The feeling of being hunted by FLs does not enthrall me though!

Is the scene really any different today?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1573133]I am going to visit Cebu soon, for the first time since 2003 when I was living in Manila (I live in China now). I am considering hotel options at present.

I used to stay at the Marriott. But I did not particularly enjoy the scene at Ayala Mall. Even just walking the less than 100 m to the Mall, I would be accosted by (older) girls sitting on the low branches of the smaller trees. Very aggressive, and would grab you if you came close.

Inside the Mall, young girls (usually in pairs, and sometimes very young) would come up and ask [I]"Can I come home with you?"[/I].

I am a freebie fan and enjoy the challenge of meeting SYTs. The feeling of being hunted by FLs does not enthrall me though!

Is the scene really any different today?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I have been there 3 times in the last year and have not run into that at all. Never was approached by young girls nor did I see any trolling around and I was looking. In the evening there were some MILFs hanging around the courtyard but they wait until you made eye contact to approach you.