Moscow

[QUOTE=RussianBaby;2355571]Street prostitution and Russia. It is underworld, social trash, last stop before death of decease, Poverty and humiliation. Nothing funny, nothing exotic there.

So don't fly in your illusions, if you care about good time and want to stay sane and solid with money and of course healthy with not broken legs after meeting a pimp. Don't try to pay; less, don't try to save your money out of greediness.[/QUOTE]Hello Russian Baby, This is probably the best description of Russian street prostitution I have ever heard! Well done. Molodets! As you are Russian, I am interested to know your opinion of the "Tochkas". Are they completely gone? As a foreigner, I have only limited access to information. So from my perspective, they have disappeared form Moscow for all practical purposes. I have not personally heard from anyone visiting a Moscow tochka in at least 10 years now. Comments?

Jake933, FYI [URL]https://w.intim.la/street/[/URL].

Thanks. It is thr grass is always greener thing, I will just stick with what I have, Godo Old Thailand

[QUOTE=RussianBaby;2355571]LOL funny topic I have found) Normal escort girls here offer 1 contact per hour (like me) and my price also starts from 200 usd, like each VIP model in any European country. We really think that normal man should be not interested in quantity of contacts, and Russian costumers also are more concerned about good conversation and good time together, human warmth. In 90% cases you will not get 2 shots) we don't think its normal. For this price starting from 180-200 usd you will find good and high class girl. If you heard that average price in Moscow is 50-100 $ it was in 1990's, now for this price you will find fake advertisement with fake photos or it will be low level brothel with ladies around 70-80 kg and 40 years old. Street prostitution is very dangerous, they don't care about health, they can be infected with HIV and more viruses, usually they live 3-7 girls in cheap dirty rented flats, mostly they work with men. Pimps and they will hit you and take away all your money, or girl will put a clonidine to your drink. It is very usual ant typical stories in Russia with street prostitution where is no laws exist. It is more like Mexico or Latin America in general) Street prostitution and Russia. It is underworld, social trash, last stop before death of decease, Poverty and humiliation. Nothing funny, nothing exotic there.

So don't fly in your illusions, if you care about good time and want to stay sane and solid with money and of course healthy with not broken legs after meeting a pimp. Don't try to pay; less, don't try to save your money out of greediness.[/QUOTE].

I am trying to get my head around various dosug sites as keen to start with a nearby incall.

Clicking on verified profiles only, but some stunners just asking for 2500 or 3500 rubles for an hour. Anything to be aware of? Or further checks I can undertake?

Price sounds reasonable, but I am concerned when others keep saying it should be 6000 and up as a bare minimum?

In my experience if something seems too good to be true it probably is. A stunner in Moscow for 2500 rubles which is 35 euros per hour? Maybe if we time travel to 1995.

[QUOTE=TonyBBB;2357661]I am trying to get my head around various dosug sites as keen to start with a nearby incall.

Clicking on verified profiles only, but some stunners just asking for 2500 or 3500 rubles for an hour. Anything to be aware of? Or further checks I can undertake?

Price sounds reasonable, but I am concerned when others keep saying it should be 6000 and up as a bare minimum?[/QUOTE]Your girl next door, geared mostly for locals and usually out of the city centre. Nothing to be aware of other than some areas and apartments may be sketchy. Have fun!

Can anyone quote the current girl and bar fine prices at the usual suspects Penthouse, Aurora, Angels? I believe someone was at Loft recently. That would be good too.

I believe when I was at Penthouse 2 years ago it was like 8000 a girl and 6000 bar fine. Has it changed much?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2357933]Can anyone quote the current girl and bar fine prices at the usual suspects Penthouse, Aurora, Angels? I believe someone was at Loft recently. That would be good too.

I believe when I was at Penthouse 2 years ago it was like 8000 a girl and 6000 bar fine. Has it changed much?[/QUOTE]It was just 10000 and 6000.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2357933]Can anyone quote the current girl and bar fine prices at the usual suspects Penthouse, Aurora, Angels? I believe someone was at Loft recently. That would be good too.

I believe when I was at Penthouse 2 years ago it was like 8000 a girl and 6000 bar fine. Has it changed much?[/QUOTE]911 Aurora.

1 hour in the club - 5000 rent for the club and 12 k for the lady.

Overnight to your own hotel. 40 k.

Fixed prices.

They pop up immediately, sites like Secret-Touch-Escorts or [URL]rusprostitute.com[/URL], lots of great pics etc. But with prostitution illegal, are they bait for luring in guys to meet the police? Or are they pretty much what they say, with the danger just that the girls don't look at all like the models depicted on their pages? Hoping for minimal drama, on a short visit, to be able to find someone attractive to visit without winding up in jail, or being roughed up by goons, or being left for dead in an alley.

[QUOTE=Rako3;2359384]They pop up immediately, sites like Secret-Touch-Escorts or [URL]rusprostitute.com[/URL], lots of great pics etc. But with prostitution illegal, are they bait for luring in guys to meet the police? Or are they pretty much what they say, with the danger just that the girls don't look at all like the models depicted on their pages? Hoping for minimal drama, on a short visit, to be able to find someone attractive to visit without winding up in jail, or being roughed up by goons, or being left for dead in an alley.[/QUOTE]To answer your first question, unless you are a very high profile individual, the Moscow police have no interest in you what-so-ever. Unless, of course, you are engaged in political activity or committing murder. And even then, you would be having to been found murdering a fairly prominent Russian. Otherwise, you are pretty much invisible.

As far as these sites like [URL]rusprostitute.com[/URL] go, let me paraphrase Forrest Gump's statement saying that they are like a Box of Chocolates. "You never know what you are going to get". That said, calling in a girl from one of these sites is pretty low risk and minimal drama. Worst case, if the wrong girl shows up at your hotel room, you just say no thank you and close the door. Going to the apartment (located in a dodgy part of Moscow) of someone you have never met is never a good idea unless they come from what I would characterize as a reliable source. ([URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL], [URL]www.intimcity.nl[/URL], etc.) There is a HUGE community in Moscow that follows [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL]. Unfortunately, it's only in Russian but the ratings and comments on these girls are brutal. If you have ever been on the Dubai forum of ISG, it's like that only much, much more thorough and detailed in the reports on girls. And unlike Dubai, these girls are not transient. Most of them are in Moscow to stay or, if they are transient from one of the provinces, they are under the wing of someone established. While not legal in Russia, prostitution is very well organized and self regulated.

This site you mention above appears to be well organized and most of the locations shown on the first few pages are for apartments in the center of Moscow so you are probably going to be alright if you want to make a visit. But clearly, this site is oriented towards English speaking foreigners.

The lowest risk method (but probably most expensive) is to visit one of the high end strip clubs. I'm starting to feel like an advert for Angles, Penthouse Club and The Loft, but these all have a big selection of girls and plenty of private rooms for on-site sex. And security is top notch and professional. Plenty of "well-heeled" local Russians visit these clubs so discretion and safety are high on the priority list of management.

Have fun!!

I would add Aurora to this list as well. I have not done Loft.

Thanks guys for the price update. Looks like it's gone up about 20% in rubles the last two years but only 10% in dollars. So that's not too bad.

Not exactly a bargain at $250 from a worldwide standpoint. But not bad either. Kind of on the mid-high side (not including US which is a whole nuther category!

Thanks again fellas. As usual there will be highly detailed reports coming soon.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2359869]To answer your first question, unless you are a very high profile individual, the Moscow police have no interest in you what-so-ever. Unless, of course, you are engaged in political activity or committing murder. And even then, you would be having to been found murdering a fairly prominent Russian. Otherwise, you are pretty much invisible.

As far as these sites like [URL]rusprostitute.com[/URL] go, let me paraphrase Forrest Gump's statement saying that they are like a Box of Chocolates. "You never know what you are going to get". That said, calling in a girl from one of these sites is pretty low risk and minimal drama. Worst case, if the wrong girl shows up at your hotel room, you just say no thank you and close the door. Going to the apartment (located in a dodgy part of Moscow) of someone you have never met is never a good idea unless they come from what I would characterize as a reliable source. ([URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL], [URL]www.intimcity.nl[/URL], etc.) There is a HUGE community in Moscow that follows [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL]. Unfortunately, it's only in Russian but the ratings and comments on these girls are brutal. If you have ever been on the Dubai forum of ISG, it's like that only much, much more thorough and detailed in the reports on girls. And unlike Dubai, these girls are not transient. Most of them are in Moscow to stay or, if they are transient from one of the provinces, they are under the wing of someone established. While not legal in Russia, prostitution is very well organized and self regulated.

This site you mention above appears to be well organized and most of the locations shown on the first few pages are for apartments in the center of Moscow so you are probably going to be alright if you want to make a visit. But clearly, this site is oriented towards English speaking foreigners.

The lowest risk method (but probably most expensive) is to visit one of the high end strip clubs. I'm starting to feel like an advert for Angles, Penthouse Club and The Loft, but these all have a big selection of girls and plenty of private rooms for on-site sex. And security is top notch and professional. Plenty of "well-heeled" local Russians visit these clubs so discretion and safety are high on the priority list of management.

Have fun!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2360003]I would add Aurora to this list as well. I have not done Loft. [/QUOTE]Not to contradict you Steve, but don't you find the accommodations at Aurora a bit limited? I LOVE Aurora too, but for this reason I left it off the list for our friend here. In fact, this is where I met the famous Fiona during her "skinny days" and had the use of the one room I know about. Man, I'll never for get that experience as long as I live.

LOFT has plenty of rooms. I had the pleasure of a tour of the premises during the final construction phase. There were at least 6 rooms set up with ensuite plumbing for your shagging pleasure.

During the Memorial Day of the Patriotic War, 9th May. The call girls or club still work?

[QUOTE=Jake993;2360227]Not to contradict you Steve, but don't you find the accommodations at Aurora a bit limited? I LOVE Aurora too, but for this reason I left it off the list for our friend here. In fact, this is where I met the famous Fiona during her "skinny days" and had the use of the one room I know about. Man, I'll never for get that experience as long as I live.

LOFT has plenty of rooms. I had the pleasure of a tour of the premises during the final construction phase. There were at least 6 rooms set up with ensuite plumbing for your shagging pleasure.[/QUOTE]It could be day of the week or I could have gotten lucky. I recall it was very busy — lots of guys and all tables occupied. I had to sit at the bar and keep a close eye on talent to grab. I happened upon a cutie who was engaged nearby and as soon as she turned my way I grabbed her and bar fined her.

We went straight up to the room no problem. This was early in the week. Probably a Tuesday.