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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2411218]Didn't thermae move twice around that time? I was spending a far bit of time in BKK in the 90's and kind of recall it moving, shutting down quickly and then reopening. I could be completely mistaken, those days were the pretty full-on party times of my youth.[/QUOTE]I wasn't really around at the time of the move, but my buddy who first went in about 1977 suggests it only moved once. You would need to specify the other location that is not just outside of Soi 13 and next to Miami Hotel.

It is possible there was an interim place for a short time, after mouth of Soi 13 closure, but I have no info on that, and the histories don't seem to mention it.

Lao girl tells me she had a deal with a possibly German Farang for 10 K Baht presumably 2 or 3 days (I don't know detail), an he stiffed her, failing to pay at the end. I would have advised her to accept payment day by day only, if she had consulted with me first. Hope he has extreme bad luck to make up for his black heart. Like to get robbed and bashed by ladyboys. Some guys are so proud to stiff a defenceless girl and end up with days of free sex. I would regard it as a freebie only if I handed over the money and the girl gave it back to me.

She is supposedly down to her last 200 Baht now. Can't pay the rent. Already has a child to support.

Now the killer blow. She can't work much longer as is pregnant. Mid December period failed to arrive, and she forgot her pill just once (maybe) early December. Doesn't deny copping a CIP. She could have got morning after pill if occurred to her but forgetting is forgetting I suppose. Maybe complacent. Unlike a western girl, she can't get an abortion due to religious beliefs, and the law. We don't even know if the baby will be white or black. She has no husband or BF and extremely weak English.

If she knows the likely father, did not tell. It is not me. I was not around at the relevant time, and I do not do CIP anyway, due to high danger. I plan a vasectomy soon.

All she has going for her right now is she is pretty. Maybe there are many guys wanting to do a pregnant girl. I am not warped that way.

Incredible tales of woe are so common, yet knowing her for 2 years plus, she is not generally giving big bullshit, so it is just possible her story is true, maybe embellished, hard to tell. She did not try to doctor the facts to make it look like I was the culprit.

I have my own set of dependents already, so I can't take on every hooker I happen to like. She needs incredible luck now to find a sponsor.

Reminds me slightly of the bad luck when a certain Tulip girl got accidentally pregnant with twins, after innocently picking wrong guy to be her partner and retiring from MPs, and that relationship failing. However she had good English and more chances to find a new guy maybe. Inside got twins by accident.

All the talk of STDs seems somewhat inconsequential to me. The big danger for girls is getting pregnant when abortion is not an option. I commend ET for his snip and intend to get done too this year. I don't want to be the cause of a girl disaster. Could happen to any nice guy or to assholes alike.

If you like to CIP guys, consider a vasectomy. That is the responsible thing. Unfortunately birth control methods are not totally reliable, most common weakness being to not take the pill when supposed to. At my age, I certainly don't need to making any babies.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2411093]Stickman: "A little history: the Thermae massage parlour first opened its doors in 1966, and the 'coffee shop' below it quickly became a money-spinner. Open for 24 hours year around (barring official holidays and military coups) it was what American journalist Bernard Trink (The 'night Owl' of the Bangkok Post) called a 'constellation': a meeting place selling alcohol that was not subject to official bar working hours. Women from many surrounding bars flocked there after the official closing time of 2 AM to enjoy a drink with friends before heading home, or perhaps meet a rich farang. Unlike the infamous Coffee Shop at the Grace Hotel (Sukhumvit soi 3), the Thermae was a friendly place, in spite of the grubby surroundings newcomers entering the 'Grace' often sense a vaguely threatening atmosphere. ".

[URL]https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2013/01/the-legend-of-thermae/[/URL]

My buddy that showed me the Thermae, first went there in about 1977. Hope to get a copy of some of his old photos soon. He reckons moving Thermae 50 metres in 1996 to under Ruamchit was the start of the death of it from an Expats point of view, however others still enjoyed it till early 2000's.

In it early days, Thermae was not necessarily for hookers, but also girls wanting a pick up (perhaps for free). Girls went for the whole night almost always. It gradually increased part time casual hookers needing a bit of extra money, toward hookers with high client turn over in the modern day (many wanting quickie jobs).

Early 90's Thermae was less crowded but may have had less seating too.

I guess Thermae is pronounced something like 'tur-may' (or tur-mare). In between those two.

In Thai:
เธอร์เม[/QUOTE]I think I got the "clap" from a girl in the massage parlor upstairs, but not sure. Anyway, Thermae's at the time as I remember was exactly like your post. Yes it was small, (had booths in those days), I remember them well. I still have a scar on my head from being hit with a beer bottle from a deaf girl who I been with before who thought I was hers. Never went to the "Grace" that I remember, of course some of those days are a blur. Many nights after bar hours, there were so many girls that Thermae was crowded with only standing room. While definitely not a "rich Farang" there was never a problem finding a girl for the night, the only problems was remembering which you had taken before and trying not to piss them off if you didn't ask again. Several nights I left alone as it just got too questionable and confrontational to pick one.

Going back a long way to remember so may not be exact! As you went in there were booths to the left and we usually sat in the second booth. If girls happened to be in the booth they made room or the "boy" would tell them to get up for us. Regulars had a few perks in those days!

Quote from Syzygies.

"All the talk of STDs seems somewhat inconsequential to me. The big danger for girls is getting pregnant when abortion is not an option. I commend ET for his snip and intend to get done too this year. I don't want to be the cause of a girl disaster. Could happen to any nice guy or to assholes alike.

If you like to CIP guys, consider a vasectomy. That is the responsible thing. Unfortunately birth control methods are not totally reliable, most common weakness being to not take the pill when supposed to. At my age, I certainly don't need to making any babies. ".

I had the snip 26 years ago and the best thing I ever did. No difference in performance but so much safer regarding unwanted pregnancies. I have been told by a mate who has had prostate cancer that having a vasectomy is advantageous as well. I had it due to 2 unplanned kids with my ex missus and she didn't want a third and was probably planning her exit from our relationship at stage as well. I have had a third child sue to IVF.

I wonder though if I would have had the sense to have one if under different circumstances due to all the opinions regarding not cumming, can't get an erection and losing your libido, BTW all wrong.

[QUOTE=MrClen;2411325]I think I got the "clap" from a girl in the massage parlor upstairs, but not sure. Anyway, Thermae's at the time as I remember was exactly like your post. Yes it was small, (had booths in those days), I remember them well. I still have a scar on my head from being hit with a beer bottle from a deaf girl who I been with before who thought I was hers. Never went to the "Grace" that I remember, of course some of those days are a blur. Many nights after bar hours, there were so many girls that Thermae was crowded with only standing room. While definitely not a "rich Farang" there was never a problem finding a girl for the night, the only problems was remembering which you had taken before and trying not to piss them off if you didn't ask again. Several nights I left alone as it just got too questionable and confrontational to pick one.

Going back a long way to remember so may not be exact! As you went in there were booths to the left and we usually sat in the second booth. If girls happened to be in the booth they made room or the "boy" would tell them to get up for us. Regulars had a few perks in those days![/QUOTE]I had fun with Thermae Soapy girls, once taking out 4 girls from Southern Thailand to an entertainment venue: Neung, Noi, Ew, and? My god they were extremely rowdy when drunk in the taxi. I had trouble to follow their southern dialect. Also attended the Thermae Soapy New Year party in late 1991 (like a Christmas party). Many regulars were Thais or Chinese.

I don't remember the old Thermae Coffee shop being small, but I guess certainly smaller than the current location. Wasn't cramped. I was usually standing up in there. Usually entered from the toilets area at the back. I do remember many times a guy would approach a girl and then go away (1991). Seemed to be slow to get a match and the deal done, or maybe guys were approaching but as yet undecided. I might ask my buddy why that was. Were the girls choosy, or guys stingy? I did not seem to have problems myself in those days but get plenty of non interested girls in the modern day. Maybe just an old sour face.

I liked repeating great girls, so no problems with switching girls. More disappointed when desired girls did not show up, having got enough money for their urgent need.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2411252]I wasn't really around at the time of the move, but my buddy who first went in about 1977 suggests it only moved once. You would need to specify the other location that is not just outside of Soi 13 and next to Miami Hotel.

It is possible there was an interim place for a short time, after mouth of Soi 13 closure, but I have no info on that, and the histories don't seem to mention it.[/QUOTE]I was mainly staying and partying around Patpong in those days so only went to Suk occasionally, so I wasn't really familiar with the soi setup back then. It was just one of those thoughts that popped into my head when I read about Thermae moving. I strangely recall it may have been in Clinton plaza for a bit, that was the place the was built and pulled down after 18 months or so.

Anyone, been spending most of the past 20+ years travelling ad living in SEA, so the old times (and me getting older) are becoming more of a blur.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2411248]So you understand choosing was hard at first. I really liked both girls.

Yes in those days almost all the girls looked natural. Noses tended to be broader than what I go for now. My girl had a cheeky look too, like she knew she was "hot" with amazing high and wide slung natural almost Dee cup tits no sag. To use a western toilet, she perched / squated on the seat to pee. Ha ha. It was a sexy look too.

The two girls were the best looking in the place for my taste at the time, I think. I certainly would not have chased any average ones. Not stunning for the faces, but very acceptable for those that like a real Thai look which is what I was getting used to. Today's Thermae girls don't have this look, for the hair, for the nose, and tend to have a lot of surgeries and a more fake / plastic look, certainly looking closer to western looks.[/QUOTE]Those two girls would be the best looking girls in Thermae today. (for my taste).

Yes, I heavily lean toward natural look and both of these girls are naturally very pretty. If one or both had a great natural rack, then you achieved Thai Valhalla.

I used to know a guy (alas passed away) who was an expat in BKK and specialized in finding Thai girls with big natural breasts.

The way the girls style themselves and put makeup on for the Asian mongers in Thermae is a big turnoff for me. But hey, I understand. They're not dressing for ME.... But for Haruto or Jin Ho.

interestingly enough.. my one Thermae girl who is very popular with Japanese clients.. is actually very natural looking, very little makeup but she is not Isaan farmgirl, has more Chinese features, slightly westernized and white skin.... though she has a big silicone rack.

Just goes to show when someone says there are lots of good looking girls in a place or the place is full of dogs always take that statement with a HUGE grain of salt.

If those 2 girls resembled the best looking Thai girls in the Good Old Days in the 1990's then I would have been going home alone and reminiscing about the Good Old Days in the 1960's! Not my type at all. I am a face guy and those 2 girls have extremely flat, wide African noses. No thanks. I prefer girls who have more of an European, JAV, or KPOP look.

This is an example of a natural looking Asian girl I would have went for in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2411782]If those 2 girls resembled the best looking Thai girls in the Good Old Days in the 1990's then I would have been going home alone and reminiscing about the Good Old Days in the 1960's! Not my type at all. [/QUOTE]It was an example of the real Thai look (we got used it), and broad noses would have been common in the 1960's too, not much different. I was less fussy in those days coming from being used to average girls in home country.

The two girls were from Phitsanulok (mid North of Thailand).

They were the best for my taste at the time, but not for my Buddy who was with me. He had a different taste altogether. He liked voluptuous girls that I would call fat. Maybe some other girl in the room would have looked okay For your taste, who knows? I am much more fussy about nose shape these days, and GF does not have a broad nose nor nose surgery. Small upturned. I also never liked hook noses which are common in the modern day, with surgeries.

The girl in your pic, has a somewhat broad nose possibly reduced by surgery. Very few girls had nose jobs in 1991, I guess. Maybe your spec would have been difficult to find. Unfortunately your pic was very over exposed (washed out) losing a lot of detail so nose can only be seen very vaguely. Is it a girl you did from Thermae?

Many posters supposedly don't care about noses too much. Ha ha.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2411254]
If she knows the likely father, did not tell. It is not me. I was not around at the relevant time, and I do not do CIP anyway, due to high danger. I plan a vasectomy soon.
[/QUOTE]Vasectomy is highly recommended for every man who is certain that they don't want any more children. I got a vasectomy 20 years ago after my steady girlfriend secretly pulled off my condom while changing from missionary to cowgirl. Although she had 2 previous abortions, she told me she would keep the baby if I should get her pregnant because I'm such a nice guy. The next day I called a urologist and scheduled a vasectomy.

For those who have had vasectomies, you need to have them checked occasionally. It turns out that my first vasectomy failed after 1 or 2 years and I needed a second vasectomy. I learned of my problem through testing, nobody got pregnant.

The vasectomy procedure is simple. Very little agony, perhaps a little worse than having a small cavity filled, not nearly as much agony as having a tooth pulled.

I don't know whether I should post this report here or in the Stupid Things on the Internet thread. 555.

For the last 2 days I have been unable to open the ISG. I assumed it was a small connectivity problem on the other end and ISG would be back in business soon. I was experiencing no problems opening any of the other girly sites I like visit so I just went about my business.

Then 5 minutes ago after not getting through to the ISG once AGAIN, I logged onto NordVPN, my VPN app and chose the USA as my location and bingo: here I am. So what the fuck is going on? IS my internet provider suddenly censoring the ISG. That would be very peculiar since only the ISG is singled out. Additionally this lock out occurred on Chrome, Edge, and FireFox. Anybody got any ideas or experiencing the same issue?

Normally I only use NordVPN when I am traveling or when I am planning to download some porn and I want to sort of hide my location and identity. But if this ISG fail to connect BS is the new normal on my machine in my home, I guess I will use NordVPM all the time until I figure out what is going on. It is good to be back!

Natty,

Can't comment on USA of course but some Internet providers in Thailand disable ISG as well, and some Hotels. Generally I get worse internet service in Hotels, so I just use my phone Internet which is now MyCat, supposedly getting up to 6 Mbps non controlled and unlimited. Strangely my home internet (also CAT) in remote location is faster for magnet downloads (I don't use a normal TV in Thailand anymore), but weaker for interactive response time to another country. Don't quite understand, but just use the phone internet mostly. Its amazingly good even very remote.

Internet providers should be minding their own business.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2412429]I don't know whether I should post this report here or in the Stupid Things on the Internet thread. 555.

For the last 2 days I have been unable to open the ISG. I assumed it was a small connectivity problem on the other end and ISG would be back in business soon. I was experiencing no problems opening any of the other girly sites I like visit so I just went about my business.

Then 5 minutes ago after not getting through to the ISG once AGAIN, I logged onto NordVPN, my VPN app and chose the USA as my location and bingo: here I am. So what the fuck is going on? IS my internet provider suddenly censoring the ISG. That would be very peculiar since only the ISG is singled out. Additionally this lock out occurred on Chrome, Edge, and FireFox. Anybody got any ideas or experiencing the same issue?

Normally I only use NordVPN when I am traveling or when I am planning to download some porn and I want to sort of hide my location and identity. But if this ISG fail to connect BS is the new normal on my machine in my home, I guess I will use NordVPM all the time until I figure out what is going on. It is good to be back![/QUOTE]The only time I use a VPN is to fool Amazon or watch NBC or Fox Sports. Or when I am in China. It matters not to me about porn, I leave my location history on and don't hide my searches so my heirs can review same and understand exactly how much of a low life I really am.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2412429]For the last 2 days I have been unable to open the ISG. I assumed it was a small connectivity problem on the other end and ISG would be back in business soon. I was experiencing no problems opening any of the other girly sites I like visit so I just went about my business.[/QUOTE]I had simmilar issue in the USA. There was at least 24 hours where ISG was not available through my laptop, iPhone, or iPad. I tried the iPhone using both my home WiFi and my cellular data plan. Nothing worked. No VPN was used. At the same time, the sister site, USASexGuide.nl, was working fine. Now, everything works fine.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2412455]
Internet providers should be minding their own business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2412536]I had simmilar issue in the USA. There was at least 24 hours where ISG was not available through my laptop, iPhone, or iPad. I tried the iPhone using both my home WiFi and my cellular data plan. Nothing worked. No VPN was used. At the same time, the sister site, USASexGuide.nl, was working fine. Now, everything works fine.[/QUOTE]This is the error message I was receiving when I tried to connect to the ISG:

Internationalsexguide. NL took too long to respond.

Try:

Checking the connection.

Checking the proxy and the firewall.

Running Windows Network Diagnostics.

ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT.

As I reported, the problem disappeared immediately after I signed onto my VPN app and chose a different IP address. But later that night, it came to me that somehow my real IP address had been flagged or blacklisted for this particular site. That sounds crazy, but what other explanation could there be? Anyway, before I was about to call AT&T tech support, my internet provider, to report the problem and ask them to switch my port and / or assign me a new dynamic IP, I decided to unplug my AT&T gateway modem for 30 minutes to flush its memory, which I did. Then when I powered the damn thing back up, voila, the connect problem was gone and I was able to connect to ISG without using the VPN app. Case Closed. Happy Happy Happy!

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2412468]The only time I use a VPN is to fool Amazon or watch NBC or Fox Sports. Or when I am in China. It matters not to me about porn, I leave my location history on and don't hide my searches so my heirs can review same and understand exactly how much of a low life I really am.[/QUOTE]555! I don't care what my heirs think about my infatuation with young Asian hookers or my preference for Japanese Lesbian porn as they spend their inheritances which I will eventually leave them. I am pretty sure my tastes and life style is way beyond what they can even imagine, the poor, beguiled, confused, little woke-tards, bless their tiny weeny California hearts. Ha Ha. But I am cautious about revealing where I go and what I do on the internet to unknown dark lurkers out there. VPN apps and other apps designed to help surf the web as anonymously as possible are a good thing, IMHO, although nothing is foolproof.

But you are right, in practical terms one of the most useful things about VPN apps is their ability to get around local government censorship like the one in Communist China. I wouldn't leave home without a VPN app on my phone or laptop.