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there are many bars on del pilar and mabini and other streets.

just watch out. some of them hire **** girls. many are just hostess bars in the sense you can drink with her. groping is shied away. going with you depends on the girl. just watch out for the padded bill. they generally overcharge for drinks.

i had gone to couple of bars. one time i took a girl and she was a runner and demanded more money also.

better to stick to mbc / la cafe, amazonia etc who are well known. most of the small bars are for locals only and usually deserted.

I was feeling a bit worse for wear at the start of the final day. After Lisa left, I sat in the bar at the Duck Inn, ordered a big pot of tea, read the papers and had a slow breakfast (chicken and pork adobo for about the third time in my short trip). I went upstairs and showered again and felt a bit better. I left the hotel at 1pm with my main focus just to shake off the cobwebs and be back in time to meet Reggie (security guy from Duck Inn) at 7. Wandered over to Robinson, had a slow look around and bought some coconut juice and some more fruit from the supermarket. I was just taking everything slowly.

I walked for about three hours after that, down Adriatico Street and then up and down Mabini. As on the previous days, there are a lot of touts around, and they offer three things mainly: currency exchange, Viagra and girls. The currency guys all seem to have the same handwritten piece of cardboard with the rates; a couple of quick glances told me that the rates were two or three cents better than the airport and other places, but I never pursued anything. I just smile and shake my head. The guys pushing girls always had a stack of business cards. I sat down for a smoke at one point (mistake) and got the full gamut. One dude rifled through 7 or 8 cards in front of my face and I recognised most of the names, which surprised me. Anyway, I'm not interested in going with touts and I shake them off. There are a few beggars around, but they are not very persistent or troublesome. This was much better than I was expecting. Meandered back to the Duck Inn just after 5 and sat down for my first tentative beer of the day. The first couple of sips tasted like tobacco-flavoured water. Played a game of pool and then wandered upstairs to change and get ready.

The room phone rings just before 7 and it's Reggie. I'm feeling pretty healthy at this point, showered again and ready to roll. I have a beer at the bar with him (he drinks coke) and we just talk sh*t about this, that and the other. He has been working at Duck Inn for four years and before that, he was a bodyguard for some VIP. Finish the drinks and we're off. He says he has plans for me but wants to know if there is any place I want to go. I tell him Gold Coast bar because I thought (and still think) that they have the best average quality girls in Ermita. I just want to see again. He says ok and off we go. It's less than five minutes from the Duck Inn. Just as with yesterday, the quality is great, though a few different girls this time. We have a drink and tells me a few stories about old times. He's a soft-spoken, gentle kind of a bloke and he likes a laugh. Good craic in any event. He says if I want to choose a Gold Coast girl, no worries, he's happy either way. I tell him no, I'll continue with him and let him take me where he wanted to go.

We exit the bar and Reggie is laughing to himself because the place he had in mind is the Red Garter, right next door. You sneaky bugger, I'm thinking. All in good fun. I was a bit worried because although there were a couple of cuties, overall the girls are better next door at the Gold Coast. The mamasan comes over to us immediately and talks to Reggie. He tells me that my girl is not here, we can have a drink and she'll be here soon. Ok then. Drinks arrive and I have a good luck around. It's kind of a rectangular-shaped bar with the bar itself on the left as you walk in. All the girls sit on chairs on the right, with lots of comings and goings in the space between. Not a pressure atmosphere at all like Red Rooster, JAPLAC or the other bars I went to the previous day. There are five or six punters and I chat to a couple of them. Some good fellas in there. At the far end of the bar, there's a musician playing classic hits, mainly love songs and things like that, and the atmosphere is pretty good.

Karaoke starts and they want the punters to get up there. One guy is all over it straight away, a bit of a plodder, so I'm inspired to sign up. I've done some singing over the years and can carry a husky tune, so I'm looking forward to it. My turn comes and up I go. First couple of bars and the girls all squeal; everyone stops and just listens. I'm halfway through my second song and into the bar walks the best-looking girl I've seen on the whole trip. The mamasan goes straight to her. She's looking at me and I'm looking at her; I know that she's my girl. I finish the song and a man comes up and shakes my hand, introduced himself as Roger, says he's the owner and gives me FIVE complimentary drink cards. Awesome (I won't be redeeming them all tonight, but I guess I'll have to come back). Lots of back slaps and handshakes; I felt pretty good. Finally, I meet the girl and yes, Reggie has arranged this. Nice work mate. Three drinks and we get to chatting. Her name is Jane, she's 24 and comes from Quezon province. All easy conversation, just talking about music and the bar and so on. I go to the toilet and Reggie discreetly follows me. I was hoping he would because I want to ask about the cost. 2000 pesos all night and then until I leave tomorrow. He also said I should tip the girl, either zero. 500 pesos or 1000 pesos depending on service. Alright mate, done deal. Reggie leaves because he has to go and work. I thanked him and told him I would come and see him later. I'm feeling a bit hungry at this point (for food, that is) , so I suggest we leave and get something to eat. Another quick chat and handshake with Roger the owner and we're off.

We went to the Cowboy Grill, which was in the same general area, on the way back to the Duck Inn. It's on the corner of Mabini Street and Arquiza Street 2 minutes from the Red Garter and the same or less to the Duck Inn. More serious than usual security check and we're in. The place is huge. Absolutely enormous. There are hundreds of seats arranged along long tables and a big upstairs gallery. Everything focuses on a stage at the back, elevated three meters off the restaurant floor, where a live band is playing. We get a seat right at the front, the band finishes their set and another band comes on soon after. They take requests from the crowd at a few hundred pesos a pop, and they play really well. There is a bit of comedy as well, but all in Tagalog. Jane has been here before and loves this place. We stay for dinner and a couple of drinks and make our way back to the Duck Inn, holding hands.

Back at the Duck Inn and Reggie has a big grin on his face. Jane goes to the bathroom and I order two last drinks and slip Reggie another 200 pesos. Well done mate. More chat, we finish our drinks and I'm heading up to the room. Reggie calls me back and gives me a dark orange tablet. He basically says, 'You are going to have a good time, but you're going to want to do more. Just take this when the time is right. ' I had no idea what it was – I thought Viagra was blue LOL. But I trust the guy. It was the last time I saw him on the trip. He saved me a couple of thousand pesos, gave lots of advice and really helped me out. Top fella.

Back at the room and we're showering. Great body, perfect skin and those kind of nipples that poke out like cherries. I'm all over them. Over to the bed and I know I'm in for a treat. This girl knows what a f*ck is all about. She's very enthusiastic and energetic and she seems to sense just when I want to change positions or do something else. Magic. Great first f*ck, multiple positions and finish with her cowgirl. Quick wash up and back to bed. I pop in Reggie's tablet right away. I have no idea what will happen as this is the first time I have taken a performance enhancer, but why not?

Back on the bed, we get to talking again. She says she enjoyed the restaurant and it was good to go out. She said most punters just want to f*ck in the room and watch TV. I laughed at that. She tells me she has a two-year-old kid (you wouldn't know it) and has broken up with her defacto recently. I give her the simple version of my own story. Hand are wandering during all of this, eventually slide down and start DATY. She has a magnificent pussy, firm, shaved and sweet, I go at it for a while; I ask her if she can cum and she said she doesn't know if she has ever come. What? I work twice as hard now and after a while she holds my head and hair, moaning in pleasure. I'm there for twenty minutes at least. I feel her contract and release, but she doesn't let go. She pulls me up, I cover up and f*ck just like the first time, except this time I cum with her sitting in my lap facing me. Another shower and off to sleep, right away.

Awake at 8 and the tentacles are out; a slow, lazy f*ck ensues, mostly laying down from the side. Very nice. We wash up again, and order room service. I turn the TV on, despite what she said the previous night. I tell her and she laughs. After we eat, we lay down and watch telly for a while. She starts playing with my cock and before too long, we're on again. I try DATY again, but it's the same as before. I must have been there for thirty minutes. She was all wet, but no release. She flipped me over and straight into BBBJ and she wants me to come. Staring at and touching that body, it doesn't take long. I reach the point, but I catch it, break free, stumble into the bathroom and blow into the toilet. She asks why and I don't know. I just didn't want to mess up those perfect features I suppose. Shower, five-minute bag pack and it's time to go. 1000 peso tip and she's happy. We walk down to reception and she asks if it's ok for her to go. I say sure. A quick kiss, a short backward glance and she's gone. Great experience all in all. The most expensive of the trip but I'll remember it for a long time. A few hours afterwards on the plane, despite the shower, brushing teeth and a beer in between, I could still faintly taste her pussy on my tongue. Awesome trip.

I checked out, sat at the bar at Duck Inn, and had one more beer before heading to the airport.

hello, all. i would like to share with you the highs and the lows of my 1st trip to the pi about a year and a half ago (i've been once since). i'd briefly read some field reports on another site but wasn't still really wasn't fully prepared for what was to unfold. i stayed at the swagman, purely because my friend told me he had stayed there previously. i booked a 'superior' room at like 2900 a night which was overpriced as its a run down place and the room i got was anything but superior, it was on the ground floor and was very shabby, and didn't even have a window. as it was my first foray into the field, i didn't have the inclination to complain and ask for a better room. however i'm glad i stayed there because i met some great aussie lads who were my drinking buddies for the 4 days i was there. they were quite a bit older than me and therefore not active in the field anymore and were all married to fililpinas.

anyway, from the top, the hotel picked me up at the airport and christmas eve and was grateful for that as i had trepidations about the world i had just entered. to be honest the culture shock of a 3rd world country really hit me, the kids half clothed begging, the dilapidated buildings, i remember wishing that my friend had given me more information about this barren landscape.

after i got settled or took a shower. i went straight to the bar and struck up a conversation with the aussies. good lads they are indeed, we had a good laugh so that took up most of the afternoon and indeed early evening. they took me to amazonia, had a few there, it was mostly empty with just a few fls. one came up and started giving back rubs and hustling for payment. me being a total noob, and having no idea of the exchange rate or the true economic situation casually pulled out 200 and gave it to her. anyway i was gettin horny at this point and although she was maybe 5-6 at best, she was good enough so she offered 1500 and i said 1000 which was quickly accepted. one of lad's son took another one, who was probably the pick of the bunch but i digress. and we went back to the hotel.

in the room straight into it, gfe dfk, she happily licked my arse which was nice. we fucked all over the spartan room. might have did it twice don't remember, i was also loaded up on the korean ginseng which you may know is a potent substitute for any chemical performance enhancer! anyway i was in full holiday mode which also means i'm prone to generosity, so i opened up the tanduay in the treated my new friend to dinner at the hotel. we talked, she was a nice girl actually, and it was a nice conversation. she couldn't eat everything so she doggie bagged the rest. we said goodbye and i got ready and headed for the infamous la cafe.

it was quite late when i got there it was already christmas day. upstairs was shut. nothing really took my fancy but i got a good vibe about the place and was enjoying it. i was talking to a dutchman and we had a good natter. few vodka and cokes later (switched from the beer like i usually do). after sometime, i wasn't really interested in any of the girls maybe they all go home for the christmas holidays, the waitress serving me was being very attentive and smiling radiantly. she was cute and had that fresh non pro look. anyway it was very late at this time maybe 5am and i was quite hammered at this point, so she gave me her number and told me that her shift didn't finish till 7. me being totally unprepared didn't even bring my phone from home with me to buy a sim so that was a bit pointless. so we agreed to meet in amazonia, and i went there and kept drinkin till she arrived at 8 30am.

i was having a whale of a time, the birds were chirping and i was still drinkin and partying. after getting her a drink we went back to the hotel and she revealed her cute body, nice tits not too big, and slim body. we went at it for a while-bareback, good bj and a good fuck followed i shot the load up her back and we slept. the next day we talked and went at it again, she told me she liked me and wanted to see me again. i thought it was funny that my 1st experience from the la cafe was a member of staff not one of the working girls. we fucked again and she left mid afternoon. anyone else had 1 of the waitresses?

i got up had christmas dinner at the hotel which was a feast, had everything, very nice and cost 380, but i wasn't thinking about that, i had money to burn so i was doing just that. i then joined the aussies and more beer and conversation followed, good times. it was then getttin time to go out again, so i went out to la cafe again, more people this time, i sat at the bar again, and struck up a conversation with another lad beside me, an american said he owned a bar in angeles, nice lad wasnt old either about 29 i think. we got talking to some fl beside me one was a bit rough, ana she was called, not interested. the other one, analie was nicer through my beer googles. all the while the waitress from last night had started work and came up to me and started ordering lady drinks for herself, think they might have been 250-300? not sure. hmm i thought ok, but then i got her to tell the dj to play a song of mine and then she asked for a drink, hmm i agreed but was getting the idea of what this place is like. anyway i told her to stop bringing her friends over asking for drinks. she seemed to understand. staying on the subject of being milked i'm trying to remember if it was the same night or the night before where she brought the manager and 2 other overs and i ended up getting them a drink before i could actually say no. hmm anyway they could smell i was a newbie and a drinker, and i was in holiday mode so i let it go, thinking it could buy me some goodwill further down the track. i know i'm inviting the fires of indignation but it was a learning experience. i spent just as much if not more on drinks than it would have cost for a st. it's never free!

anyway the fl's left their number, claimed that they weren't working girls blah blah. yeah right! so i was going home when my special waitress introduced me to a friend who again wasn't the best, but the beer goggles were in play again so i arranged to meet her in the street when the other girl wasn't looking. the place was full and i think most of the talent had been taken, it was full of foreigners, i had also been upstairs before, and slim pickings. lots of koreans there, and they had their own spot upstairs which of course you already know.

i had arranged for the waitress to come after work, but had no cell phone so couldn't chase that up. hopeless or what! anyway took the pleasantly plump girl back to the hotel gave her a quick smash, it was more of a laugh than anything else, i didn't agree on a price and said 500 ok? and she said no 1000. not being in a mood to argue, i gave it to her. my waitress didn't return for room service but that was ok.

next day i thought i would call 1 of the fl i spoke to that looked half decent. i called the number and agreed to meet, they were at the hotel in no time. but not the girl i wanted! i got their names mixed up instead of analie i got ana, the rough looking ticket lol. but she had a very cute friend with her, who turned out to be a total scumbag see*nt but more about that later. so we walked to starbucks at robinson's and i said where is your friend. the ugly one then went crazy shouting at me, 'what? why you call me when you want her! she went off at me and the other just smiled. she took the huff with me and we got to starbucks she was giving me the evils, still accepted a choco whatever it was though, i bought them one each. there were some availables around there too, nice spot to sit out. so i got the number of her friend, she passed to me under the table on a hankie. so the ugly one stormed off, apparently she liked me and is very jealous. few drinks later i called the girl-from my hotel room phone, didn't always work lol. she came back to the hotel like a bloodhound on the scent. we discussed prices, she said 2500 lt i said 2000. she said ok. being in holiday mode and all that i treated her to dinner, yes i know bit over generous, but my mind was also befuddled with drink the whole time. as the saying goes 'when the drink goes in the sense goes out'. so we went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. i got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. to experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! so you can guess why: yes the ***** was on the rag. anyway she did gave me a good bj and indeed i shot my load on the bed. she also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room i agreed. this was also part of her ploy, you may already know why, or if not you'll find out later in the report.

we then went out to la again, she talked to some of her scummy hooker mates, managed to get a packet of pringles out of me, but nothing else. one of them asked me to pay her entry upstairs, i had discovered the word no by this point! i bought the girl a drink or 2. she wasn't much of a drinker though. we went upstairs and again nothing doing on the fl front, the koreans seemed to have it sewn up there. so she took me to g point where i saw the girl i wanted earlier that day, the ugly friend was also there and she was giving me the evils! bitchface then says i don't want to do anything and cause any dramas because of the ugly one. they all stayed in the same dorm room in a guest house in ermita. so we left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.

back in my room the ***** demanded 2000, and i said for what just a bj? i said fuck off, what do you take me for. i bought you drinks, i then told her to get out before i throw her out. at the time i meant me throwing her out physically. i then thought, better of it. we argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'i know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the phillipines'. i said why what the fuck are you going to do. she didn't reply. just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. i said no every time. she wouldn't leave. then i started thinking what if the ***** called the police on me. that was the only thing i was afraid of. i know what those fuckers are like, she only has to cry [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and the fuckers would be squeezing you for 100, 000. i started freaking out a bit and decided i didn't want this drama. i wasn't going to give her anything. i was 70% sure she was bluffing but i gave in and gave it to her. she had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. i called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. it was like water off a duck's back. she said 'yes i know i'm a see*nt'. she said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier fl. she left and i was fuming with the little *****.

oh i forgot to mention! i got the number of the original friend i wanted i had arranged for her to come over and she came on while i was still arguing with that other trash. so i was'nt there to meet her so she went home again! i called her and she was a bit pissed off, i said don't worry i'll get your taxi money just come again. she did and she helped erase the memory of the fucked up events of a few hours before. did anything, licked my arse repeatedly, giving me a full colonic inspection with her tongue, unreal! i fucked her and i took the condom of and she sucked me off and licked my arse again and i came over her fringe. great! we agreed on 1000 before, but she stayed till 3-4 next day, once again in the morning, she went to the shop for me, and she even wanted it again after i paid because she enjoyed it so much. i tipped her 300 nice girl, like chalk and cheese compared to that other fucker.

so i just wanted to ask, what would fellow experienced mongers have done if they were in my shoes that night? i think the worst thing i could have done was start shouting and arguing with her. should i have called her bluff? should i have called security anyway, even if they were matey? should i have given her 1000 and told her final offer or i'm having you kicked out? another friend told me i should have asked her to come to the bar for a drink and have a talk about it and then when she's out of my room, tell the desk she's a hooker and she's trying to scam me and have her kicked out. but then the security guard did seem like a lame duck and my original fears about the cops would have still been a possibility. it can be a dodgy place as well you know.

your opinions please. i hope i haven't stoked the fires of indignation to much, i know i was silly, i know i may have encouraged her to do it to another newbie monger. i was having a whale of a time and just wanted to enjoy it. it was certainly a learning experience my first trip. so try and keep any criticism as constructive as possible! thanks all and looking forward to your combined perspectives on this matter. happy mongering!

Where is the Cowboy Grill?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1157374]I use to just do MBC / LA cafe and Amazonia until a friend showed me G Point and Cowboy Grill. Bar hopping has a lot to do with timing. Timing is everything, you just do not know what you will run into on a given time or day.

My two best finds were Amazonia bar on a very quiet evening. Never to be repeated.

If you notice most of the girls do the circuit from one bar to the next hoping to increase there chances. I would bar hop if I found a keeper but any other time I do not need the baggage.

I will check out that Hussy's out of a perverse curiosity that it may be ok. But like you said the main bars like LA Cafe (sorry its still LA cafe to me) usually have enough variety for most of us and that is where the majority will be.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1157464]Where is the Cowboy Grill?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]It's on the corner of Mabini Street and Arquiza Street. Good spot.

Cowboy Grill (Melate) is on the "bayside" of Remidious Circle. Walk about 3/4 blocks down Adriatico street from Robinson's until to get to the circle. Havana Cafe (Melate) will be on your right side. Take the street to right before Havana, go one block and it will be on your left. Live bands, food and drink. Good place for a date and later in the evening for pick-ups.

Sogo short time hotel is only couple blocks away toward Zoo.

Enjpy.

Cheapy.

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1157464]Where is the Cowboy Grill?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1157467]Cowboy Grill (Melate) is on the "bayside" of Remidious Circle. Walk about 3/4 blocks down Adriatico street from Robinson's until to get to the circle. Havana Cafe (Melate) will be on your right side. Take the street to right before Havana, go one block and it will be on your left. Live bands, food and drink. Good place for a date and later in the evening for pick-ups.

Sogo short time hotel is only couple blocks away toward Zoo.

Enjpy.

Cheapy[/QUOTE]True. I was at the Mabini Cowboy Grill earlier this week and the girl I was with told me there were three of them within walking distance. It must be a chain.

[quote=streethawk; 1157441]hello, all. i would like to share with you the highs and the lows of my 1st trip to the pi about a year and a half ago (i've been once since). i'd briefly read some field reports on another site but wasn't still really wasn't fully prepared for what was to unfold. i stayed at the swagman, purely because my friend told me he had stayed there previously. i booked a 'superior' room at like 2900 a night which was overpriced as its a run down place and the room i got was anything but superior, it was on the ground floor and was very shabby, and didn't even have a window. as it was my first foray into the field, i didn't have the inclination to complain and ask for a better room. however i'm glad i stayed there because i met some great aussie lads who were my drinking buddies for the 4 days i was there. they were quite a bit older than me and therefore not active in the field anymore and were all married to fililpinas.

anyway, from the top, the hotel picked me up at the airport and christmas eve and was grateful for that as i had trepidations about the world i had just entered. to be honest the culture shock of a 3rd world country really hit me, the kids half clothed begging, the dilapidated buildings, i remember wishing that my friend had given me more information about this barren landscape.

after i got settled or took a shower. i went straight to the bar and struck up a conversation with the aussies. good lads they are indeed, we had a good laugh so that took up most of the afternoon and indeed early evening. they took me to amazonia, had a few there, it was mostly empty with just a few fls. one came up and started giving back rubs and hustling for payment. me being a total noob, and having no idea of the exchange rate or the true economic situation casually pulled out 200 and gave it to her. anyway i was gettin horny at this point and although she was maybe 5-6 at best, she was good enough so she offered 1500 and i said 1000 which was quickly accepted. one of lad's son took another one, who was probably the pick of the bunch but i digress. and we went back to the hotel.

in the room straight into it, gfe dfk, she happily licked my arse which was nice. we fucked all over the spartan room. might have did it twice don't remember, i was also loaded up on the korean ginseng which you may know is a potent substitute for any chemical performance enhancer! anyway i was in full holiday mode which also means i'm prone to generosity, so i opened up the tanduay in the treated my new friend to dinner at the hotel. we talked, she was a nice girl actually, and it was a nice conversation. she couldn't eat everything so she doggie bagged the rest. we said goodbye and i got ready and headed for the infamous la cafe.

it was quite late when i got there it was already christmas day. upstairs was shut. nothing really took my fancy but i got a good vibe about the place and was enjoying it. i was talking to a dutchman and we had a good natter. few vodka and cokes later (switched from the beer like i usually do). after sometime, i wasn't really interested in any of the girls maybe they all go home for the christmas holidays, the waitress serving me was being very attentive and smiling radiantly. she was cute and had that fresh non pro look. anyway it was very late at this time maybe 5am and i was quite hammered at this point, so she gave me her number and told me that her shift didn't finish till 7. me being totally unprepared didn't even bring my phone from home with me to buy a sim so that was a bit pointless. so we agreed to meet in amazonia, and i went there and kept drinkin till she arrived at 8 30am.

i was having a whale of a time, the birds were chirping and i was still drinkin and partying. after getting her a drink we went back to the hotel and she revealed her cute body, nice tits not too big, and slim body. we went at it for a while-bareback, good bj and a good fuck followed i shot the load up her back and we slept. the next day we talked and went at it again, she told me she liked me and wanted to see me again. i thought it was funny that my 1st experience from the la cafe was a member of staff not one of the working girls. we fucked again and she left mid afternoon. anyone else had 1 of the waitresses?

i got up had christmas dinner at the hotel which was a feast, had everything, very nice and cost 380, but i wasn't thinking about that, i had money to burn so i was doing just that. i then joined the aussies and more beer and conversation followed, good times. it was then getttin time to go out again, so i went out to la cafe again, more people this time, i sat at the bar again, and struck up a conversation with another lad beside me, an american said he owned a bar in angeles, nice lad wasnt old either about 29 i think. we got talking to some fl beside me one was a bit rough, ana she was called, not interested. the other one, analie was nicer through my beer googles. all the while the waitress from last night had started work and came up to me and started ordering lady drinks for herself, think they might have been 250-300? not sure. hmm i thought ok, but then i got her to tell the dj to play a song of mine and then she asked for a drink, hmm i agreed but was getting the idea of what this place is like. anyway i told her to stop bringing her friends over asking for drinks. she seemed to understand. staying on the subject of being milked i'm trying to remember if it was the same night or the night before where she brought the manager and 2 other overs and i ended up getting them a drink before i could actually say no. hmm anyway they could smell i was a newbie and a drinker, and i was in holiday mode so i let it go, thinking it could buy me some goodwill further down the track. i know i'm inviting the fires of indignation but it was a learning experience. i spent just as much if not more on drinks than it would have cost for a st. it's never free!

anyway the fl's left their number, claimed that they weren't working girls blah blah. yeah right! so i was going home when my special waitress introduced me to a friend who again wasn't the best, but the beer goggles were in play again so i arranged to meet her in the street when the other girl wasn't looking. the place was full and i think most of the talent had been taken, it was full of foreigners, i had also been upstairs before, and slim pickings. lots of koreans there, and they had their own spot upstairs which of course you already know.

i had arranged for the waitress to come after work, but had no cell phone so couldn't chase that up. hopeless or what! anyway took the pleasantly plump girl back to the hotel gave her a quick smash, it was more of a laugh than anything else, i didn't agree on a price and said 500 ok? and she said no 1000. not being in a mood to argue, i gave it to her. my waitress didn't return for room service but that was ok.

next day i thought i would call 1 of the fl i spoke to that looked half decent. i called the number and agreed to meet, they were at the hotel in no time. but not the girl i wanted! i got their names mixed up instead of analie i got ana, the rough looking ticket lol. but she had a very cute friend with her, who turned out to be a total scumbag see*nt but more about that later. so we walked to starbucks at robinson's and i said where is your friend. the ugly one then went crazy shouting at me, 'what? why you call me when you want her! she went off at me and the other just smiled. she took the huff with me and we got to starbucks she was giving me the evils, still accepted a choco whatever it was though, i bought them one each. there were some availables around there too, nice spot to sit out. so i got the number of her friend, she passed to me under the table on a hankie. so the ugly one stormed off, apparently she liked me and is very jealous. few drinks later i called the girl-from my hotel room phone, didn't always work lol. she came back to the hotel like a bloodhound on the scent. we discussed prices, she said 2500 lt i said 2000. she said ok. being in holiday mode and all that i treated her to dinner, yes i know bit over generous, but my mind was also befuddled with drink the whole time. as the saying goes 'when the drink goes in the sense goes out'. so we went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. i got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. to experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! so you can guess why: yes the * was on the rag. anyway she did gave me a good bj and indeed i shot my load on the bed. she also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room i agreed. this was also part of her ploy, you may already know why, or if not you'll find out later in the report.

we then went out to la again, she talked to some of her scummy hooker mates, managed to get a packet of pringles out of me, but nothing else. one of them asked me to pay her entry upstairs, i had discovered the word no by this point! i bought the girl a drink or 2. she wasn't much of a drinker though. we went upstairs and again nothing doing on the fl front, the koreans seemed to have it sewn up there. so she took me to g point where i saw the girl i wanted earlier that day, the ugly friend was also there and she was giving me the evils! bitchface then says i don't want to do anything and cause any dramas because of the ugly one. they all stayed in the same dorm room in a guest house in ermita. so we left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.

back in my room the * demanded 2000, and i said for what just a bj? i said fuck off, what do you take me for. i bought you drinks, i then told her to get out before i throw her out. at the time i meant me throwing her out physically. i then thought, better of it. we argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'i know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the phillipines'. i said why what the fuck are you going to do. she didn't reply. just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. i said no every time. she wouldn't leave. then i started thinking what if the * called the police on me. that was the only thing i was afraid of. i know what those fuckers are like, she only has to cry [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and the fuckers would be squeezing you for 100, 000. i started freaking out a bit and decided i didn't want this drama. i wasn't going to give her anything. i was 70% sure she was bluffing but i gave in and gave it to her. she had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. i called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. it was like water off a duck's back. she said 'yes i know i'm a see*nt'. she said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier fl. she left and i was fuming with the little.

oh i forgot to mention! i got the number of the original friend i wanted i had arranged for her to come over and she came on while i was still arguing with that other trash. so i was'nt there to meet her so she went home again! i called her and she was a bit pissed off, i said don't worry i'll get your taxi money just come again. she did and she helped erase the memory of the fucked up events of a few hours before. did anything, licked my arse repeatedly, giving me a full colonic inspection with her tongue, unreal! i fucked her and i took the condom of and she sucked me off and licked my arse again and i came over her fringe. great! we agreed on 1000 before, but she stayed till 3-4 next day, once again in the morning, she went to the shop for me, and she even wanted it again after i paid because she enjoyed it so much. i tipped her 300 nice girl, like chalk and cheese compared to that other fucker.

so i just wanted to ask, what would fellow experienced mongers have done if they were in my shoes that night? i think the worst thing i could have done was start shouting and arguing with her. should i have called her bluff? should i have called security anyway, even if they were matey? should i have given her 1000 and told her final offer or i'm having you kicked out? another friend told me i should have asked her to come to the bar for a drink and have a talk about it and then when she's out of my room, tell the desk she's a hooker and she's trying to scam me and have her kicked out. but then the security guard did seem like a lame duck and my original fears about the cops would have still been a possibility. it can be a dodgy place as well you know.

your opinions please. i hope i haven't stoked the fires of indignation to much, i know i was silly, i know i may have encouraged her to do it to another newbie monger. i was having a whale of a time and just wanted to enjoy it. it was certainly a learning experience my first trip. so try and keep any criticism as constructive as possible! thanks all and looking forward to your combined perspectives on this matter. happy mongering! [/quote]yeah. you fucked up and some newbie mongers will probably pay for it. at least you know what you did wrong and hopefully you will temper your drinking when mongering next time since it seems to affect your decisions for the worst. you could have had that hooker removed from the premises without any further problems. however, she saw that you were clueless about the local scene, drunk and scared so she took advantage. you did open yourself up to being set up when you allowed her to leave her bag there. she could have had some shabu in there and called in a tip to the police that a foreigner had drugs in his room and provided your details. try to remember that you're not in kansas anymore.

[QUOTE=StreetHawk;1157441]Back in my room the ***** demanded 2000, and I said for what just a BJ? I said fuck off, what do you take me for. I bought you drinks, I then told her to get out before I throw her out. At the time I meant me throwing her out physically. I then thought, better of it. We argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'I know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the Phillipines'...[/QUOTE]SH:

Maybe she was bluffing, maybe not! Who knows? But one thing is for sure, as a foreigner you are always in a very weak position! So, it was indeed wise to avoid big trouble! And never ever argue with them, but agree on the price you are going to pay well in advance instead. IMHO of course!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=StreetHawk; 1157441]. We discussed prices, She said 2500 LT I said 2000. She said ok. We went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. I got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. To experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! So you can guess why: yes the * was on the rag. Anyway She did gave me a good BJ and indeed I shot my load on the bed. She also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room I agreed.

We then went out to LA again. She took me to G point. We left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.

Back in my room the * demanded 2000, and I said for what just a BJ? I said fuck off, what do you take me for. I bought you drinks, I then told her to get out before I throw her out. At the time I meant me throwing her out physically. I then thought, better of it. We argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'I know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the Phillipines'. I said why what the fuck are you going to do. She didn't reply. Just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. I said no every time. She wouldn't leave. Then I started thinking what if the * called the police on me. That was the only thing I was afraid of. I decided I didn't want this drama. I was 70% sure she was bluffing but I gave in and gave it to her. She had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. I called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. It was like water off a duck's back. She said 'yes I know I'm a see*nt'. She said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier FL. She left and I was fuming with the little.

Your opinions please. [/QUOTE]StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.

In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10,000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.

P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing.

[QUOTE=Dezzy Haynes;1157471]True. I was at the Mabini Cowboy Grill earlier this week and the girl I was with told me there were three of them within walking distance. It must be a chain.[/QUOTE]It is indeed a chain. Great reports BTW. Many of us use this "chain" altho some brothers prefer the more luxurious surroundings of the Dusit. Sorry biro lang for " insiders " LOL. Hope you have a return visit. Your reports make good reading.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1157559]StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.

In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10, 000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.

P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing. [/QUOTE]I agree with Natty Bumpo except the part about getting angry with the locals. After a year of living here and seeing more shit in one year than a lifetime in the west, I realise that after reasonable discussions have ended, losing your rag in a controlled way is sometimes the only way to get things done. This does not just apply with girls but I had a barney with the bank manager the other day and as soon as I raised my voice, things started to go the right way. Asians don't like confrontation.

I would have given the girl 1, 000 peso and kicked her out and told her if she contacts me again, I will call the police and tell then she stole money out of my room. You will soon, get a sorry, sorry, sorry, text message. Don't put up with that crap because it just makes it harder for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1157559]StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.

In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10, 000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.

P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the feeback Natty. Indeed I can't believe I let her keep my bag in her room now. But you're still giving me too much credit! I still didn't catch on that she was on mens when she wouldn't let me take her trousers off! I just went with the flow, and surprisingly didn't question this fact. If I knew I would have sent her on her way. Yes she just squeezed me for 1000, so not exactly the end of the world. It's just the principle, someone like that thinking they can get one over on you. I was befuddled with drink and beguiled by her beauty (very cute this one although very skinny). Yes I could have gotten another BJ but she pissed me off when I realised that she played me. Anyway just put it down to experience.

[QUOTE=Frenchmen; 1157373]I plan my first trip in couple of months, I think September should be the best time and I wonder what else can be done other than mongering?

I will stay in Manila but also wish to visit some other part of the country for 2-3 days, I am thinking Cebu and I would also like to be able to hit the beach a few times.

So I think, maybe 70% mongering, for which I have a wealth of info here, but 30. Vacation, what do you guys suggest? [/QUOTE]There are really 3 key things you can do in Philippines:

1. Mongering.

2. Scuba diving.

3. Scenery Siteseeing.

There are some great scuba diving places in Puerto Galera, Bohol, Moalboal, Malapascua, Coron.

There are a lot of beautiful islands and beaches in Phil. Boracay is definitely worth a visit. Puerto Galera has nice beaches. Alona beach on Panglao island close to Tagbilaran city is my personal favourite. Camagian and Palawan are also nice. Apart from Boracay and Puerto Galera is BYOG all the way.

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I could also mention the other errors I made further into my trip in Angeles, Puerto Galera, and even Thailand but I'm not sure if feeling masochistic enough.