Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Global00;2323233]Chicas Mileno

This is a usual for me but it's worth mentioning. There are 20 chicas. And I found an 18 year old Venezuelan with a bubble butt, pretty face with braces. I definitely recommend trying this place out. Especially for 35 k.[/QUOTE]Good report.

A previous post indicated that Chicas Mileno was closed. Verified last week that it was closed. Two touts were in the middle of the street trying to steer me to some other location. There was a sign on the building indicating that it was for rent.

You must have gone to the casa across the street, Chicas 2000. Chicas 2000 was hoping at 3 PM last week. There was a lot of girls. Never saw that many previously. Yup! Isn't 35 K for 30 minutes an incredible price. There is a sign stating the price. No rip offs there.

Standard is everything covered. You have to offer a tip for BBBJ. It seems the girls want 50 K tip, for those willing. Is there an Union? Even the girl I had last year wouldn't accept 20 K I gave last year. But no big deal. 35 K (US $10.61) for 20 minutes of fun. I NEVER get the full time allowance in any Bogota venue I've been to (that is why I like Medellin's New Life where you are time stamped). Compare that to a US $20+ lap dance in US for one song where you can't even touch.

Hmmm. I always thought the gold doors on the left side of the street was Chicas 2000. My mistake. Yes, I went to the one with the black gate / door. 35 k is a great price. And I usually always find something there. The good thing about Chaperino is you can walk to a bunch of casas and find chicas for that $35-50 k. It's an incredible deal.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2323415]Good report.

A previous post indicated that Chicas Mileno was closed. Verified last week that it was closed. Two touts were in the middle of the street trying to steer me to some other location. There was a sign on the building indicating that it was for rent.

You must have gone to the casa across the street, Chicas 2000. Chicas 2000 was hoping at 3 PM last week. There was a lot of girls. Never saw that many previously. Yup! Isn't 35 K for 30 minutes an incredible price. There is a sign stating the price. No rip offs there.

Standard is everything covered. You have to offer a tip for BBBJ. It seems the girls want 50 K tip, for those willing. Is there an Union? Even the girl I had last year wouldn't accept 20 K I gave last year. But no big deal. 35 K (US $10.61) for 20 minutes of fun. I NEVER get the full time allowance in any Bogota venue I've been to (that is why I like Medellin's New Life where you are time stamped). Compare that to a US $20+ lap dance in US for one song where you can't even touch.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Santan3;2323404]Finished my trip, both good and bad. First of all, many thanks to Woodman, he is an awesome guide and gave many useful suggestions. And it is nice to meet Simon, and skinyCrazy though we didn't have the chance to meet.

Hotel, I stayed in hotel San Fransisco. It is walking distance to the SF scene and all major museums, mount Montserrat. It's half price of IBIS, and the room is okay, though it's little noisy and not so good breakfast. I don't think they have any trouble to bring a guest, though I didn't do it, but I did see some pretty chicas registered at the front desk.

Taxi, from airport to hotel costs 25,000. I didn't take the taxis who asked inside the terminal. Instead, I waited in the taxi line outside. When back to the states, from hotel to airport, the taxi charged 30,000. I have him 40,000 and he only returned back 5,000. So he just decided the tip by himself. I would like to repeat Woodman's suggestion, have enough small Bills, so they don't take the advantage..[/QUOTE]Good report and too bad about the robbery. It could have been much worse. There's some lessons to be learned.

1. Your wallet should never leave the hotel room safe. Nobody in Colombia needs to see anything in your wallet, except the money.

2. iPhone X costs roughly what poor people in Bogota spend on rent for 6-8 months. It would be much happier keeping your wallet company in the hotel room safe. Buy a cheap unlocked phone, get a local SIM card and carry that. It's probably smaller, easier to carry in your front pocket, and if it gets broken, lost or stolen, you're out $100 or less.

3. Too many people are better than not many people, especially in areas like Santa Fe at night.

4. If you're meeting someone, set up a contingency plan. Know where they will be, if they aren't where you expect. This is where the cheap phone with a local SIM card comes in handy. You can get a message or a call out to the person you're meeting. No missed meetings because of cell phone signal.

You pointed out something else that is worth talking about. The hardest part about communicating in Spanish is understanding the natives. Spanish apps, or even Spanish schools, speak slowly and enunciate clearly. They don't teach local slang or colloquialisms. They also don't prepare you for different accents.

5 words that will come in handy, especially if you know a lot of the vocabulary: "habla mas despacio por favor. " Which means "please talk slower. " If you understand many of the words, but not quite enough to get the meaning, try: "no entiendo. Que es (whatever word you don't know). " In English, "I don't understand. What is. ".

Most people will be sympathetic and helpful, if you're making an effort to speak the language, unless they just stole your iPhone X.

[QUOTE=Global00;2323474]Hmmm. I always thought the gold doors on the left side of the street was Chicas 2000. My mistake. Yes, I went to the one with the black gate / door. 35 k is a great price. And I usually always find something there. The good thing about Chaperino is you can walk to a bunch of casas and find chicas for that $35-50 k. It's an incredible deal.[/QUOTE]"The left side of the street" is relative to the direction you are facing. But, it easy to get confused, both establishments starting with "Chicas" and directly opposite from each other. I visited both last Labor Day weekend. Milenio was the place where they tried to fleece me last Labor Day Weekend. I wouldn't be surprised if their chicanery caught up with them. There is just too competition to run a shady operation. 2000 is the humble place, with a nice guy named William out front. I wouldn't be surprised if it remains there for a while, as long as they run a good, straight-forward business.

Yes, that area of Chapinero is great for the density of casas located there. However, I found out in one place that you do sometimes get what you pay for (very little). Not much else of interest in that neighborhood unless you are shopping for pet supplies, power tools or building materials.

[QUOTE=Santan3;2323404]Finished my trip, both good and bad. First of all, many thanks to Woodman, he is an awesome guide and gave many useful suggestions. And it is nice to meet Simon, and skinyCrazy though we didn't have the chance to meet.

Hotel, I stayed in hotel San Fransisco. It is walking distance to the SF scene and all major museums, mount Montserrat. It's half price of IBIS, and the room is okay, though it's little noisy and not so good breakfast. I don't think they have any trouble to bring a guest, though I didn't do it, but I did see some pretty chicas registered at the front desk.

Taxi, from airport to hotel costs 25,000. I didn't take the taxis who asked inside the terminal. Instead, I waited in the taxi line outside. When back to the states, from hotel to airport, the taxi charged 30,000. I have him 40,000 and he only returned back 5,000. So he just decided the tip by himself. I would like to repeat Woodman's suggestion, have enough small Bills, so they don't take the advantage.

Chicas, very nice! I am glad to say that the pretty faces, energy, attitudes, prices of SF girls is the best place in my not long mongering list. Had sessions with Columbia, Venezuelan chicas, as young as 19 and as old as 31. You can find many types of chicas, very pretty, thin, chubby, young, old, black, white, trans, hahaha, though I don't have enough time / man energy to try all of them. I will leave it to next trip. The club girl prices around 70/80,000. One girl asked 100,000 and I negotiated to 80,000. However she directly took the 20,000 change from the room door man and didn't give it to me. I didn't complain. The session was very good. So I forgive her, and will bring exact amount of money instead of two big notes and wait for changes.

Safety, the last night of my trip, actually it was yesterday night, I was robbed. Because of the cell phone signal, I missed Woodman in the bar so I went out to see if I could find him on the street. It's about 9 pm, and I walked to the another side of intersection between calle 24 and troya Street because too many people were across the street. While I was waiting for the traffic cars, there was a young man approaching me. He said hora and I told him I was waiting for my amigos. He said something else which I didn't understand. Then he was already very close to me. He suddenly pulled a knife pointing at me and another young man rushing to me. The latter guy got my iPhone from my right pocket, and they ran away after I gave them another 150,000 from my back pocket. Fortunately, they didn't have the time to take my wallet from my left pocket, and more fortunately I was not hurt at all. So the total loss were an iPhone X and 150,000 pesos.

Language, it's really necessary to speak Spanish. Only two Hotel staffs can speak English, and it's not very easy or feel good when eating and shopping. Especially it is hard to talk to the Chicas. And it is not that fun without enough language communication. I have been learning Spanish using Duolingo about 3 months. I was confident at least normal communication before I touched the ground. Actually it is far away from normal communication, I guess the people here speaks too fast, or I need learn more especially listening.

Experience and lessons, the SF scene is very good. Price and quality are much better than east Asia. Lessons are DON'T walk alone at night, take a taxi or walk with someone. And again have enough small bills, and have good Spanish.

Okay, this is my first trip in Bogota. With both good and bad things, I still think it's worth to visit. Expecting a trip some time later and hanging out with Woodman and other amigos!

BTW, does anyone know what will happen to the stolen iPhones. I guess it's not easy to hack the 6 digits pin. Do they have a tool can crack it? Or just take it into parts to sell? In addition, Apple two factors authorization is really annoying. I wanted to remotely erase my iPhone, but can't do it without the phone verification. Come on, my phone is robbed then how I can get the SMS message.[/QUOTE]Your iPhone is probably already broken down into parts and being used in a legitimate repair shop for other iPhone X needing something, just count it up to "paying it forward", hehehehe that is helping repair someones else's iPhone. Yep these banditos look for the weak and solo victims and you fit the bill.

I too enjoyed the cuties in the bars and on the street, beats the scene in Medellin hands-down in terms of quality and quantity. I use to say that in Medellin I need 3 dicks to keep up with what I want to fuck BUT in Bogota I need to revise this number to 5 dicks attached to my body so I can enjoy all the cuties, hehehehe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Global00;2323233]I did the usual when I'm here but I tried to venture to some new spots.

I really didn't feel any danger at all.[/QUOTE]That's the thing. Like I said in the past, Primer de Mayo doesn't look that dangerous in appearance alone but it's the MOST dangerous nightlife area in Bogota. It looks safe because there are groups of people in their nightclub clothes, many of them go to the normal night clubs on the street and the other ones go to the gayclubs in which there are many (both of which (normal night clubs and gay clubs are safer inside). Do not go alone and even that isn't enough sometimes. There are groups of 3 guys or more who are walking around looking for victims to steal from and they carry knives and believe me, they aren't afraid to use it. And that fence in the middle you mentioned? That fence is new. It wasn't there 3 months ago. Want to know why they put it up? It's because so many people were getting robbed and the thieves would sprint away from people and police and run away across the street so now there is a divider so they would have to stay on the same side of the street. If you don't believe me look up that street on google maps and the fence will not be there. You also aren't even safe in the clubs. 2 weeks ago I placed 100 k cash in my pocket so that I didn't have to bring my wallet. I remember the waiter getting really close to me and asking me questions that had no point to them and when I got out of the club, I realized he somehow pickpocketed me but I had no evidence. Mongers / clients get drugged with the devil's breath drug by the waiters or the chicas when they are inside. This happened twice to my friends in the past 3 months. One of them was robbed, and beaten by the waiters in Pasarela club because he wanted to come back in the club and get it back. The other one was drugged in another chica club and only recalls being brought to a secluded room in the club with a chica and the waiter yelling at him to give him the pin number to this debit card. He recalls giving him a fake number but might have given him the real pin when he was "out of it" thanks to the drug they gave him because there was a 100 k withdrawal that day on his card. Funny thing is that he went back with other friends and is negotiating to buy his watch back from them since they said they already sold his phone. They don't admit to robbing him but they said that he was so drunk that he bought 4 bottles and was with 4 girls and he didn't have the money to pay for it so they took his things for collateral. Please. The other case was in Pasarela club and that case is still open, they deny ever taking anything and the manager refuses to show the camera footage inside to the police because there was a "passcode error". And the local police are just as corrupt because they literally get paid by the club managers / owners so that the clubs can stay open all night (6:00 am). So the police will not help you against the club thieves but will help you against the street thieves if you're a woman or old person. They don't really care enough to chase down criminals (risking their lives) so that a man can get back his phone but they would for a woman.

These clubs are very dangerous because the dosage of the drug can be deadly. In the first case, the waiter drugged my friend with the right amount since he doesn't recall anything inside the club. He only remembers being outside because of the cold wind and the pushes and punches he was receiving from the waiters. The other time, the dosage was a bit less since my other friend recalled being inside in the room being asked these questions and had the willpower to lie about the pin number after they took everything from him (cash, watch and phone). These waiters drink a lot as well and get drunk during the night so there is a chance that they might give you too much of the dosage of the drug, and THAT can literally kill you. And who will know? They can put you in the back and they control who sees the cameras.

So if you decide that you have to go to el primer de mayo then tread lightly.

This side of the street.

[QUOTE=Global00;2323474]Hmmm. I always thought the gold doors on the left side of the street was Chicas 2000. My mistake. Yes, I went to the one with the black gate / door. 35 k is a great price. And I usually always find something there. The good thing about Chaperino is you can walk to a bunch of casas and find chicas for that $35-50 k. It's an incredible deal.[/QUOTE]

Trip report for the first few days in Bogota: The first night, I connected with Woodman09 for a 4 hour tour of Santa Fe. First, let me say that this was money very well spent. He knows the place inside and out. We visited about 8 clubs. The standout club was Troya, but several of the clubs had great girls and live action in the club. When I say live action, I mean girls totally nude rubbing their pussies on the faces of the guys right next to me. Pretty much full on nasty. I took one girl from Troya and one girl from the street. Woodman09 waited patiently for me while I was sessioning with the girls.

I would not recommend going to Santa Fe alone. I've been in some sketchy places in SE Asia, but a night in Santa Fe felt much more likely to end with a knife attack or a mugging. Just contact Woodman09. His guide service is much cheaper than losing a phone or losing a limb. He's great company, too. I'm afraid I'm not the raucous party sort of guy and I like long GFE sessions, so Santa Fe didn't work that well for me, but again, if you want tons of choice, a loud drunken party atmosphere, and 20 minutes of heaven for the lowest price I've ever seen anywhere in the world, then Santa Fe with Woodman09 could be paradise to you. Very glad I had the experience.

Overall, the Santa Fe clubs are insanely loud and the sessions are the wham-bam 20 minute variety. Not to my liking. The girls are very hot, but I need an hour to really enjoy myself. Maybe when I was 19 and only had pennies to spend, I would have thought Santa Fe was paradise. The street girls are 35 K ($12 US) and the club girls are 70 k ($25 US). Yep. That cheap.

During the daytime, I went to Abadubai Spa. It is on the second floor up a set of exterior stairs with a green leaf sort of design on it. It looks like a proper spa, and the girl who explained the service was dressed in a white nurses uniform. She took me into a room, unzipped her outfit, showed me her lingerie clad body, then called the other girls in for a lineup. These were the best looking girls I've seen in Bogota so far. Gorgeous. About 6 girls. All 9/10. I ended up picking the first girl. She was great. Only complaint was the covered BJ, but the service was very good otherwise. Very GFE with plenty of enthusiastic DFK. Price was 180 k for the hour.

Also went to Lalos, right across from B3 Virrey hotel. Pretty slim pickings. Only about 10 girls. Very quiet with only 2 other guys. No stripping or club atmosphere. Just 10 girls sitting quietly. I didn't mind that, but the quality of the girls was low. Given the description in the Bogota FAQ October 2018, I was expecting top notch girls. They were mostly 6-7/10. I took the best one for overnight, but she snored so loudly, I ended up sending her home early! Unlikely to go back there. It was a Saturday night at about 11 pm, which should have been the busiest time of the week, and it was mostly deadsville. Price was 400 k for TLN plus 210 k barfine. Be careful, the drinks there are crazy money (45 k for a beer).

Also went to the Mezzanine. I stuck my head in each of the places, said "Buenos Dias", then after scoping out the talent, said "Uno Momento", and skipped on to the next one. I think I went to 5-6 of them. Ended up at the one at the very end. Found a girl that suited my fancy. I would say the girls were mostly 6-7/10. My girl was about an 8/10, super enthusiastic and very GFE, so I was very happy with my choice and got her number for later. The rooms are insanely tiny. Literally about 28" wide and 6 feet long. Trying to not fall off of the 18" wide "bed" required acrobatic maneuvering. If you are at all claustrophobic, you wouldn't be able to go here. Seriously! Smallest "rooms" I've ever seen. Was quoted price of 80 K. Told her I wanted lots of DFK and DATY and she told me an extra 30 K. Total of 110 k ($35) for an hour of top notch service (except for the covered BJ).

Summary so far:

Best looking girls: Abadubai Spa.

Raucous cheap party: Santa Fe.

Best service: Mezzanine.

I was considering Chicas 2000 tomorrow during the day (or a repeat of Mezzanine), then maybe La Piscina Del Norte in the evening.

Also considering La Celestina for one evening. Several of the girls are listed as either basic English or fluent bilingual. I would love to find an enthusiastic GFE with BBBJ, DATY, and DFK who can speak English fluently. The holy grail.

I read the local prepago forum about La Celestina girls and based on that I am looking at Aura Serna, Fernanda, Sara Orrego, Camila Botero, or Cristina. Anyone have experiences with these girls? Any other recommendations for someone who wants a 1-2 hour enthusiastic GFE with BBBJ, DATY, DFK?

[QUOTE=Bohika;2306459]Does anyone know if any female "Little People" (dwarfs) that offer services in Bogota? Not sure why this appeals to me, but it does. One of those bucket list type of things.[/QUOTE]Check mileroticos from time to time.

I do not refute your experience in anyway. That was just not my experience. I did not feel any threat. I also do not drink so I would have less chance of being drugged. I also probably don't resemble the populus on this form. I blend in with the crowd in those type of environments quite well. I think in all situations, people should be conscious of their surroundings. I just think that because of the amount of girls in the club, it might be worth checking out. I also did mention Sante Fe has a better selection so it may not be worth the time or risk. But if you get bored with those options, it could benefit you to check out Avenida 1 de Mayo.

[QUOTE=BlueCar;2323742]That's the thing. Like I said in the past, Primer de Mayo doesn't look that dangerous in appearance alone but it's the MOST dangerous nightlife area in Bogota. It looks safe because there are groups of people in their nightclub clothes, many of them go to the normal night clubs on the street and the other ones go to the gayclubs in which there are many (both of which (normal night clubs and gay clubs are safer inside). Do not go alone and even that isn't enough sometimes. There are groups of 3 guys or more who are walking around looking for victims to steal from and they carry knives and believe me, they aren't afraid to use it. And that fence in the middle you mentioned? That fence is new. It wasn't there 3 months ago. Want to know why they put it up? It's because so many people were getting robbed and the thieves would sprint away from people and police and run away across the street so now there is a divider so they would have to stay on the same side of the street. If you don't believe me look up that street on google maps and the fence will not be there. You also aren't even safe in the clubs. 2 weeks ago I placed 100 k cash in my pocket so that I didn't have to bring my wallet. I remember the waiter getting really close to me and asking me questions that had no point to them and when I got out of the club, I realized he somehow pickpocketed me but I had no evidence. Mongers / clients get drugged with the devil's breath drug by the waiters or the chicas when they are inside. This happened twice to my friends in the past 3 months. One of them was robbed, and beaten by the waiters in Pasarela club because he wanted to come back in the club and get it back. The other one was drugged in another chica club and only recalls being brought to a secluded room in the club with a chica and the waiter yelling at him to give him the pin number to this debit card. He recalls giving him a fake number but might have given him the real pin when he was "out of it" thanks to the drug they gave him because there was a 100 k withdrawal that day on his card. Funny thing is that he went back with other friends and is negotiating to buy his watch back from them since they said they already sold his phone. They don't admit to robbing him but they said that he was so drunk that he bought 4 bottles and was with 4 girls and he didn't have the money to pay for it so they took his things for collateral. Please. The other case was in Pasarela club and that case is still open, they deny ever taking anything and the manager refuses to show the camera footage inside to the police because there was a "passcode error". And the local police are just as corrupt because they literally get paid by the club managers / owners so that the clubs can stay open all night (6:00 am). So the police will not help you against the club thieves but will help you against the street thieves if you're a woman or old person. They don't really care enough to chase down criminals (risking their lives) so that a man can get back his phone but they would for a woman.

These clubs are very dangerous because the dosage of the drug can be deadly. In the first case, the waiter drugged my friend with the right amount since he doesn't recall anything inside the club. He only remembers being outside because of the cold wind and the pushes and punches he was receiving from the waiters. The other time, the dosage was a bit less since my other friend recalled being inside in the room being asked these questions and had the willpower to lie about the pin number after they took everything from him (cash, watch and phone). These waiters drink a lot as well and get drunk during the night so there is a chance that they might give you too much of the dosage of the drug, and THAT can literally kill you. And who will know? They can put you in the back and they control who sees the cameras.

So if you decide that you have to go to el primer de mayo then tread lightly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueCar;2323742]That's the thing. Like I said in the past, Primer de Mayo doesn't look that dangerous in appearance alone but it's the MOST dangerous nightlife area in Bogota. It looks safe because there are groups of people in their nightclub clothes, many of them go to the normal night clubs on the street and the other ones go to the gayclubs in which there are many (both of which (normal night clubs and gay clubs are safer inside). Do not go alone and even that isn't enough sometimes. There are groups of 3 guys or more who are walking around looking for victims to steal from and they carry knives and believe me, they aren't afraid to use it. And that fence in the middle you mentioned? That fence is new. It wasn't there 3 months ago. Want to know why they put it up? It's because so many people were getting robbed and the thieves would sprint away from people and police and run away across the street so now there is a divider so they would have to stay on the same side of the street..[/QUOTE]I appreciate your reports, I really do, but is there something wrong with you and your friends? I mean, are you all competing to see which one can get robbed, drugged or beaten the most often in the Primer de Mayo area? You tell everyone to avoid the area, but it appears you and your friends go there every chance you get.

What's the attraction? Why go back, again and again to a place where, according to your reports, one of you is practically guaranteed to get robbed? I can understand going once, but after so many bad experiences, why do you keep going back?

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2323932]Any other recommendations for someone who wants a 1-2 hour enthusiastic GFE with BBBJ, DATY, DFK?[/QUOTE]What I do is to take many test drives in Santa Fe. From the Western viewpoint, incredibly cheap. US dollar just hit 3312. Wow!

I ask for BBBJ. In the room, I check how good she is. Make sure she doesn't refuse BBBJ. Many times they refuse or will ask for more money in the room.

Then you can go to a cleaner hotel such as Hotel Normandia. Last year, it was 30 K for the entire night, plus 10 K for each additional girl. Hotel clerk emphasized 18+ girls only.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2323932]Overall, the Santa Fe clubs are insanely loud and the sessions are the wham-bam 20 minute variety. Not to my liking. The girls are very hot, but I need an hour to really enjoy myself. [/QUOTE]So why didn't you ask for an hour? Great report!

What's the rate of short time hotel there? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2309201]SF has never been better, all types of women running around there. I gave 4 tours last week all were impressed. The going rate on the South side is $26-35 mil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2323932]"Also went to the Mezzanine.... The rooms are insanely tiny. Literally about 28" wide and 6 feet long. Trying to not fall off of the 18" wide "bed" required acrobatic maneuvering. If you are at all claustrophobic, you wouldn't be able to go here. Seriously! Smallest "rooms" I've ever seen." [/QUOTE]LOL, the beds are not for laying down upon or massage. They are just a prop for the sex. You set the girl on the table and stand on the floor and enter her that way. Also she can get on the floor and give you a BJ or hand job. They really pack the girls into the rooms too. Very cheap overhead.