Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3024266] I used a website where you can hire a local to show you around and it cost like $10 an hour and I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat.[/QUOTE]I have been listening to Pearl Davis on [URL]youtube.com[/URL] and she is trying to found out how many American women have done sex work. She estimates it is 20%, and I think if that is right, 60% wish they could and do not because they are uncomfortable and / or would have no demand, and then you have 20% that are truly morally opposed.

As for giving her money when you are not there, all you are doing is setting yourself up in the image of an ATM machine. Yeah, I know you are a nice guy sympathetic to helping out a poorer third world girl who has needs but as soon as she gets the money, you are forgotten. Thing is I doled out a $1000 a month to seven different women during the pandemic thinking it would yield great results, and part of it was out of sympathy as Colombians were locked in their homes at that time.

When I went down to Colombia after the pandemic was done, all the women showed up, which was not usual for Colombian women, and from a purely sexual POV, it was worth it, but I got a string of different attitudes from the women. Many wanted more for doing nothing. One thought that meant I was her BF, and even the women who were just P4 P demanded more and more so much so that I got annoyed with them and never saw them again.

If a woman really likes you, she is going to show how great she can be without asking for money. The only reason then to send money is if you want to be seen as an ATM and reserve your space in line which is pretty crazy given the choices you have once you get to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3024687]I live here full time and can tell you that a large majority of the "unmarried" women that you would meet here would be repulsed by an offer, even a generous offer, to PFP. You obviously don't live here because you would know that what you posted is incorrect.[/QUOTE]I currently live fulltime in MDE too and I would argue that it highly depends on the barrio / family the girl comes from. I'd say there's 70% chance that a girl from a barrio popular would doe PFP, maybe even higher. But if she's from a better area the chances go down, morality DOES become a thing and I'd say chances are definitely below 50% that she'll go for it. People from better than average families look down on prepagos, pretty much like in the Western world and will be offended by an offer.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3024746]I currently live fulltime in MDE too and I would argue that it highly depends on the barrio / family the girl comes from. I'd say there's 70% chance that a girl from a barrio popular would doe PFP, maybe even higher. But if she's from a better area the chances go down, morality DOES become a thing and I'd say chances are definitely below 50% that she'll go for it. People from better than average families look down on prepagos, pretty much like in the Western world and will be offended by an offer.[/QUOTE]We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.

[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3024593]Gym is eye candy only. I doubt anyone tries to pickup women at the gym. Its actually the other way around they hit on you in the gym.[/QUOTE]I'm hitting the gym next time I'm in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3024816]We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.[/QUOTE]Mongers get in too deep. Go hang around normal people instead of hookers and you should realize everyone is not apt to be a hooker. There are a minute number of chicks doing this in comparison to the general population. But if you only go to places where there are hookers, going on websites that have hookers, out looking for hookers, then it gets in your brain that everyone is or wants to be a hooker.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3024685]That is a good question, and I think this is why. [URL]https://www.britannica.com/topic/How-Rich-Was-Pablo-Escobar[/URL]

Pablo Escobar was one of the wealthiest individuals in the world during his time, with an estimated net worth of around $25 billion. Escobar's wealth was primarily amassed through his leadership of the Medellin cartel, which dominated the cocaine trade in the 1980's. At its peak, the cartel was earning approximately $420 million a week. This staggering income allowed Escobar to indulge in a lavish lifestyle, complete with private planes, luxurious homes, and extravagant parties. His financial power was so immense that he once offered to pay off Colombia's national debt of $10 billion in exchange for immunity from extradition.

And while Escobar is gone, the drug trade is alive and well in Colombia. So the reason Paisas are so materialistic IMO is the men there had / have money to spoil them.

As for why the men make the women feel lucky to be with them, Colombian women have little recourse in using the judicial system for child support, divorce ETC. And even solid rape charges are often blown off. So Colombian women have to look to men to protect them versus government.[/QUOTE]I have also heard from a local that many girls have to "put out" to get a job and to hold it.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3024816]We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.[/QUOTE]You know the old joke about what happens if you walk up to 100 women and ask them for a blowjob? You get your face slapped 99 times.

Seriously, if you have the game to hit on true civvies the money is probably secondary, but I am sure a lot of P4 P girls have straight jobs, so if you make eye contact with a pretty waitress or a girl in a coffee shop or in the gym, she seems receptive, and you get her number, who knows? Seems like there are better options, but some like the hunt. To each their own, as long as they are respectful of the girls who really are civvies and don't act like pests or worse.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3024816]We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.[/QUOTE]Haha yeah it's of course impossible to get a real number. But I'm basing my estimates on what I hear from Colombians I've gotten to know over time, both women and guys and for example if you're drinking a beer with a guy from for example Manrique, he'll surely tell you that pretty much all of the girls he knows from school and still live there, are prepagos now. But I also know several women from better areas and they really look down on prepagos, it's really a class thing in Colombia, much more than in most western countries nowadays.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3024838]I'm hitting the gym next time I'm in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP. Thing is if you meet a random girl in the street in Medellin, chances are you'll not see her again any time soon, so who cares. But these women train every day at the gym, LOL, so you'll keep running into them. So for me personally gyms like that surely have eye candy but are not the perfect place to find PFP. But to each their own of course.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3024884]I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP. Thing is if you meet a random girl in the street in Medellin, chances are you'll not see her again any time soon, so who cares. But these women train every day at the gym, LOL, so you'll keep running into them. So for me personally gyms like that surely have eye candy but are not the perfect place to find PFP. But to each their own of course.[/QUOTE]Do you do collision repair? The bodytech made me LOL.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3024884]I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP.[/QUOTE]What is wrong with approaching a woman on a normal basis? Why is it that P4P is what runs through folks' minds when seeing a woman?

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3022401]Been to MDE for years and never visited this 2 spots. I finally went to go see for myself.

NEW LIFE:

I got there right at 11:00 am on a Sunday and will recommend to go at this time because the chicas are fresh and you will beat the other gringos for the hotties. Went inside the Blue door and had to pass through 2 other white metal gates. Walked up the stairs saw the mamasan. She probably did not recognize me and asked me if it's my first time there. I said Yes. She showed me the menu and I asked for the line up of girls. Told me to remember the number of the girl that I like. I had 10 girls walked up to me and Introduce their names one by one. Quality of girls 5-7/10. I saw 3 that I wanted to fuck.

First, Venezuelan, 28 years old, sexy body, pretty face, fake tits and long black hair wearing red lingerie. Second, paisa girl, she's got more meat than the first one, but has curves in the right places, face is okay and nice plump ass that you want to eat. Third, thick MILF, probably late 30's, she's gorgeous and have sexy body, big tits with big nipples poking out on her bra. Looks natural and I wanted to suck it so bad. Had to make the hard decision but I went to the first one.[/QUOTE]Nice thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3024883]Haha yeah it's of course impossible to get a real number. [/QUOTE]I get phone numbers pretty regularly, that's NOT what was being discussed. Getting a woman's phone number and a woman being agreeable to PFP are worlds apart, at least in my world. I date "normal" women non PFP, I bang hookers, and I have three sugar babies, all different.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3024852]I have also heard from a local that many girls have to "put out" to get a job and to hold it.[/QUOTE]This is very true, my baby mama has turned down and / or quit a few jobs because of this.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3024843]Mongers get in too deep. Go hang around normal people instead of hookers and you should realize everyone is not apt to be a hooker. There are a minute number of chicks doing this in comparison to the general population. But if you only go to places where there are hookers, going on websites that have hookers, out looking for hookers, then it gets in your brain that everyone is or wants to be a hooker.[/QUOTE]Exactly, you know the drill. A lot of these guys think that every woman in Colombia is a hooker. There are 26 million women in Colombia, there are NOT 26 million hookers in Colombia.