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[QUOTE=StreetHawk; 1157826]Attempted to explain (briefly) the above reasoning to her, then offered PHP1000 for ST + PHP100 for her cabfare home. If she refuses to leave, I would have then called security to have her and her bag removed from the room. I would've just said: 'I have a guest who refuses to leave. Could you please come and assist'. You are a paying guest of the hotel. The job of the hotel security is exactly that, security of the premises and [b]your[/b] Security. I doubt that this would have not worked, regardless of how 'cosy' she is with the security guard.

What made you think she was 'cosy' with the security guard? She certainly was sharp enough on this, picked up on it and cashed in on that vulnerability. [/QUOTE]Yes R Boy in retrospect I came to the same conclusion. I should have given her a 1000, and sent her on her way. It was just a lack of experience on my part. She was friendly with the security guard but I knew what she said about knowing the security guard was BS. Of course I was a paying customer so that means I have the upper hand there But I don't think he would have dealt with the matter with great efficiency as he seemed quite passive and on good terms with the girl. I was more concerned about what would happen after she was kicked out. Probably nothing but there's still that lingering doubt. Cheers.

SH[/QUOTE]As a visiting foreigner you have no rights whatever whether you are right or wrong. Always try to get out of sticky situations rather than wait for the doomsday attitude. You know what they say about 'when the shit hits the fan! '

When the girl demands money she, immediately it is clear that it is going to get ugly one way or another. My take is it is better to get rid of the girl giving some money. The security guard may throw her out but if she gets the police there is nothing he can do to protect you.

Yes, it is true that giving money to these kind of girls only encourages others to do the same. Fortunately most of the girls are friendly and will accept the pre-arranged price. I have never had problems with any girl demanding money or harrassing me. I always pre-negotiate and give some money for the taxi. Some girls really take the taxi back not the jeepney.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1158053]Yes reading what happened I think that is correct. I know the lady boys here get new guys all the time with BBBJ and the ones I know even have boob jobs and look better than most girls and are skinny as.

So be glad they not call the cops the lady boys have the contacts when they said they know people believe them you are not the first one to want to call the cops. They have it all worked out. [/QUOTE]LOL no she wasn't a bakla. My radar is pretty good with that. The other girl who came after she left was staying in the same room as her at a guest house nearby. She confirmed that she was on the mens.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1157586]It is indeed a chain. Great reports BTW. Many of us use this "chain" altho some brothers prefer the more luxurious surroundings of the Dusit. Sorry biro lang for " insiders " LOL. Hope you have a return visit. Your reports make good reading.[/QUOTE]Cheers man, appreciated. Ermita was the bomb, though I might try a different neck of the woods in PI next time. Then again, I still need to take one from the Gold Coast Bar. Opportunity seriously f*ckin' missed LOL.

BTW what's Dusit? I know the Dusit Thani hotel in Bangkok but I'm guessing that's not what you mean?

[QUOTE=Dezzy Haynes; 1158169]Cheers man, appreciated. Ermita was the bomb, though I might try a different neck of the woods in PI next time. Then again, I still need to take one from the Gold Coast Bar. Opportunity seriously f*ckin' missed LOL.

BTW what's Dusit? I know the Dusit Thani hotel in Bangkok but I'm guessing that's not what you mean? [/QUOTE]There's a Dusit Thani in Makati too.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1158171]There's a Dusit Thani in Makati too.[/QUOTE]Chains everywhere then. Thanks Slipprey, mystery solved. Pretty quick off the mark there!

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1157935]My sediments exactly!

I'm based in Thailand and have been considering this side trip for some time.

With all those excellent details, exactly the kind of report I was hoping to find on this thread.

C4T[/QUOTE]Alright mate, missed this (sorry) but might be in LOS again shortly (used to live in Phuket). Cheers man. Will PM if so! Where are you based?

Dez

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1158053]Yes reading what happened I think that is correct. I know the lady boys here get new guys all the time with BBBJ and the ones I know even have boob jobs and look better than most girls and are skinny as.

So be glad they not call the cops the lady boys have the contacts when they said they know people believe them you are not the first one to want to call the cops. They have it all worked out. [/QUOTE]It is amazing that some mongers new to the Philippine scene start drinking like a fish upon landing then go about hobbying in the mist of an alcoholic haze. Guys who do this are liable to find themselves in a situation where they don't know who or [b]what[/b] sucked on their junk. For all they know it could have been the chupacabra sucking on their nuts. After what happened to Byung one would think that guys would start wising up and stop trying consume the entire local supply of Johnny Walker and Captain Morgan's when on the prowl for meat.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1158290]It is amazing that some mongers new to the Philippine scene start drinking like a fish upon landing then go about hobbying in the mist of an alcoholic haze. Guys who do this are liable to find themselves in a situation where they don't know who or [b]what[/b] sucked on their junk. For all they know it could have been the chupacabra sucking on their nuts. After what happened to Byung one would think that guys would start wising up and stop trying consume the entire local supply of Johnny Walker and Captain Morgan's when on the prowl for meat.[/QUOTE]An SML or two and a couple of bottled waters and my wits are always with me. Some common sense goes a long way. Even at my favorite bar in Manila when they have my favorite 2 for 1 drink, I have two and that's it. Got to keep the radar going all the time there. In AC the boozing just gets stupider and stupider. I lived and learned from that many many years ago in Central America and the DR. AC was like going back to high school. If I didn't know by that trip, then I would never learn .

So for the lady boy experts. Look a this

I want to say thanks to everyone for the information shared here. I've been locked in the USA doing local travel for the last 4 years and I've finally got my tickets to Manila. The last offshore trip I took was in El Salvador and you can read some of my reports from that trip in that forum. The last time I was in Manila was in 2004 for two months. It was the first time I had traveled offshore for work and as a typical noob would do, I went nutz. I paid and tipped like I was in the states and it didn't take long to earn the nickname Petey Peso. To be frank, the company was giving a straight cash per diem and it all felt like monopoly money to me. This time, the per diem is based on actual receipts so I am going to be more frugal. Do any of you know if you can charge a bar fine in Burgos to a credit card? It would be hilarious if I could truly claim a DATY session as an actual work meal. LOL.

I'll be there for 2 weeks from June 14th to the 29th. The company is footing the bill so I'm staying at the Makati Shangri-La. The annoying this is that I work EST hours, so I'll be at work from 8pm till 5am. My thought is that I go out the first night I get there (I arrive at 11pm) , pick up someone at Havana or at Burgos, but get numbers from girls I meet that night to setup meetings during the daytime when I'm off work. I haven't read a lot of availability for good talent when going out in Makati during the day. If there is a good spot for this, by all means, let me know. Maybe I missed something in the reports.

Hopefully during my stay I'll get the chance to meet up with some of you while I'm there and thank you for your reports personally.

[QUOTE=Petey Peso; 1158491]Do any of you know if you can charge a bar fine in Burgos to a credit card? It would be hilarious if I could truly claim a DATY session as an actual work meal. LOL.

I'll be there for 2 weeks from June 14th to the 29th. The company is footing the bill so I'm staying at the Makati Shangri-La. The annoying this is that I work EST hours, so I'll be at work from 8pm till 5am. My thought is that I go out the first night I get there (I arrive at 11pm) , pick up someone at Havana or at Burgos, but get numbers from girls. [/QUOTE]Jools on Burgos takes cc. Air Force One ditto. I always use my personal credit cards for Macau saunas and high end BKK soapy massage parlors like La Belle. I don't trust most girly bars with cc numbers. The obvious exceptions would be the Shangri-La bar and the Icon bar. But be careful about the name that will appear on the charge invoice. For example: Rio Sauna is billed as HOU WAN LOI ENTER CO. LTD. MACAU. In general it is not a good career move to have your hoochie expense charges questioned by the accounting department.

[QUOTE=Petey Peso; 1158491]I want to say thanks to everyone for the information shared here. I've been locked in the USA doing local travel for the last 4 years and I've finally got my tickets to Manila. The last offshore trip I took was in El Salvador and you can read some of my reports from that trip in that forum. The last time I was in Manila was in 2004 for two months. It was the first time I had traveled offshore for work and as a typical noob would do, I went nutz. I paid and tipped like I was in the states and it didn't take long to earn the nickname Petey Peso. To be frank, the company was giving a straight cash per diem and it all felt like monopoly money to me. This time, the per diem is based on actual receipts so I am going to be more frugal. Do any of you know if you can charge a bar fine in Burgos to a credit card? It would be hilarious if I could truly claim a DATY session as an actual work meal. LOL.

I'll be there for 2 weeks from June 14th to the 29th. The company is footing the bill so I'm staying at the Makati Shangri-La. The annoying this is that I work EST hours, so I'll be at work from 8pm till 5am. My thought is that I go out the first night I get there (I arrive at 11pm) , pick up someone at Havana or at Burgos, but get numbers from girls I meet that night to setup meetings during the daytime when I'm off work. I haven't read a lot of availability for good talent when going out in Makati during the day. If there is a good spot for this, by all means, let me know. Maybe I missed something in the reports.

Hopefully during my stay I'll get the chance to meet up with some of you while I'm there and thank you for your reports personally. [/QUOTE]Petey,

Most if not all will take credit cards as will some of the hotels that have massage parlors such as Don Pedro, Phoenix and Eustacia. I believe some will even come out as "XXX Hotel and Restaurant". However, I would advise against it.

I know of a few people who expensed barfines that and when their bosses happened to come out, they also checked out the scene and soon found out what Blush Bar and Grill, Hollywood Restaurant, Rogues Bar, etc. Were. Some of their bosses were ok with it since they partook also but it only takes one to cause you to lose your job. Or, some may question how a dinner in a 3rd world country can cost $100 at a bar.

You may be able to get away with expensing $500, $1000 or more but is it worth possibly losing your job?

One guy I knew had a cosy expat position out here with a 6 figure salary, housing allowance, expense account, car, driver, maid etc. And lost it all for poor decisions such as these.

To each their own but I would really think before expensing barfines.

Natty Bumpo and Sugoi,

Thanks for the responses and advice. The credit card question was a bit of a joke, but now knowing that they are accepted, my mind is working hard at a solution. Frankly our accounting dept only checks to make sure the total bill is under a certain dollar amount, and as long as I get just a credit card receipt and not an itemized bill, I should be good. I do agree that this would be a very dumb way to be fired (I can only imagine the scandal if I was anybody important). However, I've been able to expense charges at the Larry Flint Hustler Clubs in the states without issue mainly because of the different name the charges show up as. So, if the Rio Sauna is billed as HOU WAN LOI ENTER CO. LTD. MACAU, that's perfect. I just label it as a meal expense and say that's the company that owns the restaurant.

It looks like I'll be making a return trip in July, so I may test the waters with one small charge this trip and make sure there are no issues.

Thanks again for the replies.

[QUOTE=Petey Peso; 1158579]Natty Bumpo and Sugoi,

Thanks for the responses and advice. The credit card question was a bit of a joke, but now knowing that they are accepted, my mind is working hard at a solution. Frankly our accounting dept only checks to make sure the total bill is under a certain dollar amount, and as long as I get just a credit card receipt and not an itemized bill, I should be good. I do agree that this would be a very dumb way to be fired (I can only imagine the scandal if I was anybody important). However, I've been able to expense charges at the Larry Flint Hustler Clubs in the states without issue mainly because of the different name the charges show up as. So, if the Rio Sauna is billed as HOU WAN LOI ENTER CO. LTD. MACAU, that's perfect. I just label it as a meal expense and say that's the company that owns the restaurant.

It looks like I'll be making a return trip in July, so I may test the waters with one small charge this trip and make sure there are no issues.

Thanks again for the replies. [/QUOTE]Again, it's up to you. The people I knew were expensing barfines for a couple of years and eventually it caught up to them.

I think one of their managers came out, asked some locals in the company about a "restaurant" that showed up on an expense report and claimed it must be good since one employee "ate" there so often and found out what type of place it really was.

The guy loved it over here, had multiple GFs and has been trying to find a job that would let him come back ever since. That was 5 years ago.

Amazonia in HK is great but for some reason it has never been any good in Manila. Like you though my best find in the area was / is from Amazonia. I am looking fwd to my next trip in few weeks when I once again hook up with one ex Amazonia waitress. Cowboy Grill is great I love the music but its just too loud to have a convo there. MBC remains the main bar and I can't see another cumming close but every time I am there I like to look around and see if there is something new.

[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1157374]I use to just do MBC / LA cafe and Amazonia until a friend showed me G Point and Cowboy Grill. Bar hopping has a lot to do with timing. Timing is everything, you just do not know what you will run into on a given time or day.

My two best finds were Amazonia bar on a very quiet evening. Never to be repeated.

If you notice most of the girls do the circuit from one bar to the next hoping to increase there chances. I would bar hop if I found a keeper but any other time I do not need the baggage.

I will check out that Hussy's out of a perverse curiosity that it may be ok. But like you said the main bars like LA Cafe (sorry its still LA cafe to me) usually have enough variety for most of us and that is where the majority will be.

Cheers[/QUOTE]