Taipei

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811087]Thanks! I figured since I've been lurking on this thread for a while, trying to gather as much information, it was about time for me to go out and experience it myself and provide others more info.
[/QUOTE]Your info is invaluable and much appreciated. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2811397]I reached out to a bunch of independent providers from the Euro Girls Escort site. Of the ones that responded to me, only two seem to be providers, the rest were clearly agencies (and weren't pretending not to be).

Anyway, the two providers who responded to me seem polite and professional and I like what they shared. However, my concern is that their pricing is the same and when asked about incall, they both sent me the same identical image of a particular hotel. Ummm. What's going on here? Is this also an agency? Also, what's the worst that could happen? (I'm asking earnestly, not in rhetorical or figurative fashion) Is it just bait and switch or could it turn out worse?[/QUOTE]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.

I visited Taiwan in mid March and noticed that many people wore masks and it was still mandatory on the train system as I traveled around the country via trains. There were also many more people wearing masks than in a Thailand where my trip originated. However, in the US, Dr. Fauci is being criticized heavily for recommending masks during the height of the pandemic.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2811277]The restrictions of mandatory mask-use in Taiwan are receding in most public places. Public buses no longer require masks, but out of habit, fear and security, most citizen still wear them.

On the streets, most girls don't wear them, so their smiles and pretty faces are not obliterated. But, sure, you can always wear your mask like most people do. It might help to hide your identity and make you feel more anonymous. Certainly a good idea. Most of the time I wear masks to give others comfort, although not required.

In the rooms now since the fear has subsided and mask restrictions lifted, most girls have abandoned them. But, you will never be thought odd wearing your mask, anywhere, since mask-wearing is ubiquitous, and a very common preference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811590]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.[/QUOTE]It's not so much that the location was the same hotel, more that the image shared was the identically cropped screenshot from google search or whatever. Anyway, I will proceed on that one with caution. I've since begun conversations with many other providers staying at various locations around the city so it's a bit more believable. Many of them are in town for just a few days (so they say) but in general the conversations seem credible and perhaps even a little desperate.

When I ask what is the worst that could happen I'm trying to avoid the complacency on my end of assuming that Taiwan is so much safer than everywhere else (namely America). I do figure that from a LE standpoint, it seems less of a concern here than in the US. Less enforcement and less repercussions if caught. From a robbery standpoint, it seems far less likely that a Taiwanese scam / trap would result in physical harm, and the amount of money to be robbed is less as well. So in my mind, worst that could happen is a slap on the wrist from police OR give away all the cash in my pockets which won't be TOO much. Am I naive and mistaken? Missing something?

Thanks again.

I think I will ask to meet at a public location and then walk back together.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811590]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.[/QUOTE]In other countries, it was the custom to send you to a specific location nearby and tell you to call, and tell them your clothing color or body type. They could then view your appearance from a nearby windowed area to see if you meet their standards. At that point, they would either tell you the building and apartment number, or cancel the appointment.

Just a short FR from my experience on JKF.

This is probably not the way to go if your language skills are not up to par. Not only do you need to be somewhat able to read chinese itself when navigating, but contacting the girl / GTO is all in Mandarin as well.

Went on the JKF site and navigated to the 5 Flower 8 Door massage section and chose the area I wanted. Most of the girls seem to be in the 5 Woods / Zhongshan and Wanhua / Ximending areas. Was also able to find a list of reviews of different girls in the Zhongshan area. A lot of the reviewers also have photos of the girl, with the face barely blurred out. From what I could tell, most of the girls there are non-Taiwanese, usually Thai or Viet, and are usually cheaper, with pricing being around 1. 8-2. 5 k /60/1's. I also looked at the girls with a decent amount of replies / reviews on their posting. Didn't trust that the 0 reply ones weren't scams.

After finding a girl I liked, I sent a text to the phone number provided (no LINE listed). No reply after a few hours, so I just ended up calling. Discovered that the woman answering the phone (not the girl I was requesting), was either the GTO or answering on behalf and couldn't read / write chinese. Asked me what time I wanted and gave me the address over the phone.

Showed up at the location and called the number when I arrived. Told me to wait a bit and after around 10 minutes, told me to ring apartment number 5. Got buzzed in and met the girl. Pretty similar service, as other girls but my girl was a little tired / unenthusiastic as it seems she has a lot of customers that day. Did give me a CIM and second shot for free though, and wasn't rushing me out the door even though she had another customer after me. Damage 2. 1 k.

Haven't met with any yet but also looked into some of the independent girls on JKF, which mostly seem to be Taiwanese. All provide their LINE in the posting and will tell you pricing and services provided. Seems standard is 3000 k for 1's. None of the ones I asked told me how long the service was though, so I'm assuming 1 HR is standard. One of them even provided a selfie with full un-blurred face. Will probably try one of these independent JKF girls next.

Hope this helped.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2802131]For 33,000 NTD you can have 13 girls, an hour each, from the various Line agents. Normally the rate is around 2,000-2,500 NTD for an hour.[/QUOTE]I am been looking for quick paid dates though internet and I found a few telegram groups who give girls from 5 k to 30 k per hour. Found 3 contacts with multiple telegram channels that list girls and rates and all. Worth trying?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2811647]...more that the image shared was the identically cropped screenshot from google search or whatever. ....[/QUOTE]That is not really a problem. It could be 2 or 3 girls sharing the same room. Three is really not many reason to worry about safety in Taipei. I just use my local number to contact them because many only takes calls, no text messaging. Don't bring anything that is not needed, or too much money. Keep an eye on your belongings when in the room.

I recently went on a contacting spree, messaging about 30-40 girls from the 3 or 4 popular English ad sites in Taipei eurogirlsescort, massagerepublic, etc. I pretty much contacted anyone who was particularly intriguing to me and who offered either a LINE or telegram contact. So this is basically what any foreigner could do even if they don't have a Taiwanese number or Mandarin ability. Of the 35 girls contacted, about half responded at all. A few stopped responding for whatever reason, a few were not / no longer in Taipei, and several were agencies which I was hoping to steer clear of for the time being. Was seeking just the independent girls.

Kim. I think she came from the MR site. Korean girl based in Korea I believe. She looked pretty decent, very good communication but also told me she was leaving the next day. And our communication began at midnight. Her price dropped from 4 k to 3.5 and she seemed to offer up basically whatever I wanted if I would just come now. And I very nearly did (perhaps thinking with the wrong head). I prepared to go meet her, which would have been super spontaneous for my personality, but I had to take care of something which took 30 minutes. In the intervening time frame, she had sent me more photos including what seems to be a real time photo which I had asked her for, to prove she was who she said she was. But since I was gone for 30 minutes, and no doubt she was trying to drum up business, when I returned to my phone and was about to head out she was no longer responding to me. I went to bed, but woke up the next day with messages from her at like 3 am asking if I was coming. Even the next morning she asked me to come several times before her flight. Oh well. Because of the verification photo I asked for, I kinda believe that she was real and independent, and would have been very much worth the 3500, but that's ok. Even though I didn't see her, I wanted to include her in this post because it frames the low end of the pricing for the girls I found via these channels. I do sorta wish I saw her cause based on what was to come and all other communications I had, I think she would've presented the best value. If she returns I will try to see her.

Hera / Bena. She goes by Bena in her eurogirls ad but Hera on LINE. Visiting from Japan, her first time in Taiwan. She said her total visit was 3 weeks but I believe she's leaving town right around the time of this writing. Very skinny girl, probably mid-to-late 20's. I feel bad for her cause it seemed she had some recent injuries perhaps from abuse. She seemed independent though and I was definitely communicating directly with her on LINE (as we were messaging literally up until the moment we met). Asking price was 6 k, I asked for 2 x shots, and we both agreed. I'd give her a 7 in looks. The photos were quite accurate and her face was pretty. But this was one of my worst experiences overall. My total time from entering to leaving the room was about 40 minutes. I only did one shot because I'm just not very quick and after the one I knew I wouldn't be able to do another. So that's fine, however she pretty much wanted me gone as soon as I was finished. I suppose this is something I should become more accustomed to as these girls are probably far busier than the kind of girls I used to meet in the US, but still it was an eye-opening first experience of this sort. I now know what guys mean when they say "mechanical" or "rushed" and so forth. If she comes back to Taiwan I will not be seeing her.

Nesty. I believe I found her on eurogirls but I can't recall what the ad said. She was Nesty on telegram and [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Filipina but lives in the UAE. Comes to Taiwan quite regularly. Asking 10 k and I was desperate (don't want to get too long-winded but let's just say I was anticipating this evening for quite awhile with 3 or 4 options available and then due to unfortunate circumstances at the last minute I needed to find someone entirely from scratch) so she was the strongest candidate in my moment of desperation. I'd give her a 7.5. Guessing she's mid-20's. The photos were pretty accurate but probably a little too flattering. She also had a very lumpy feeling boob on one side (it didn't look weird) and I tried to avoid touching it for both of our sakes. That said, she was a super cool / chill person and I enjoyed my time with her very much. As we were chatting afterward, she showed me photos of her friend that she said she would like to bring with her next time she comes to Taiwan. The photos were gorgeous. If they can be trusted LOL. We also exchanged contacts. It turns out the telegram person I spoke to was her "boss" and not her! This took me by surprise. Anyway, I liked her and would see her again if the price comes down in a direct transaction. Also, would be very intrigued about a duo with her friend.

Nadia & Anya (sisters) - anyone had experiences with them? I'm intrigued. They give off major fake vibes but still. I am intrigued.

Still searching for the elusive 8's or better. I'd really like to find that playing field, or settle for 7's but at a lower price point LOL. Yes. I realize the spas / ktvs or walking around Longshan Temple will probably be my best bet.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2812568]Just a short FR from my experience on JKF.

This is probably not the way to go if your language skills are not up to par. Not only do you need to be somewhat able to read chinese itself when navigating, but contacting the girl / GTO is all in Mandarin as well.

Went on the JKF site and navigated to the 5 Flower 8 Door massage section and chose the area I wanted. Most of the girls seem to be in the 5 Woods / Zhongshan and Wanhua / Ximending areas. Was also able to find a list of reviews of different girls in the Zhongshan area. A lot of the reviewers also have photos of the girl, with the face barely blurred out. From what I could tell, most of the girls there are non-Taiwanese, usually Thai or Viet, and are usually cheaper, with pricing being around 1. 8-2. 5 k /60/1's. I also looked at the girls with a decent amount of replies / reviews on their posting. Didn't trust that the 0 reply ones weren't scams.

After finding a girl I liked, I sent a text to the phone number provided (no LINE listed). No reply after a few hours, so I just ended up calling. Discovered that the woman answering the phone (not the girl I was requesting), was either the GTO or answering on behalf and couldn't read / write chinese. Asked me what time I wanted and gave me the address over the phone.

Showed up at the location and called the number when I arrived. Told me to wait a bit and after around 10 minutes, told me to ring apartment number 5. Got buzzed in and met the girl. Pretty similar service, as other girls but my girl was a little tired / unenthusiastic as it seems she has a lot of customers that day. Did give me a CIM and second shot for free though, and wasn't rushing me out the door even though she had another customer after me. Damage 2. 1 k.

Haven't met with any yet but also looked into some of the independent girls on JKF, which mostly seem to be Taiwanese. All provide their LINE in the posting and will tell you pricing and services provided. Seems standard is 3000 k for 1's. None of the ones I asked told me how long the service was though, so I'm assuming 1 HR is standard. One of them even provided a selfie with full un-blurred face. Will probably try one of these independent JKF girls next.

Hope this helped.[/QUOTE]That was my standard experience on jkf. I ended up trying a Taiwanese girl as well and asides being able to communicate better, everything else was worse. Cost more, did less. Luck of the draw. I'll probably still try another Taiwanese sister next time but will mostly focus on foreign trade. I saw 2 or 3 last time and service was great for all of them.

I don't trust any ads that say they're independent too. Tw girl said was independent but when I got there and talked to her it was different than text. I was also told to meet at another location first. I think they do that for 2 reasons. One to make sure you're there and real. Second because it's a broker and they're figuring out where to send you. Only use pics as a reference. Even if it's the actual girl she will be different and not beautified.

I actually didn't mind using brokers. They'll send you a list of pics of their stable after they vet you. Pics will be slightly more accurate and you can ask for advice on who is popular and gotten good feedback. Issue for most travelers will be having a Taiwanese number and Chinese communication using a translator.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2812755]That is not really a problem. It could be 2 or 3 girls sharing the same room. Three is really not many reason to worry about safety in Taipei. I just use my local number to contact them because many only takes calls, no text messaging. Don't bring anything that is not needed, or too much money. Keep an eye on your belongings when in the room.[/QUOTE]The two "girls" (Nadia and Rosa) I contacted that both used the identical picture for their incall hotel appear to be fake ads run by the same person. I googled the phone number that was listed. I hadn't even clicked on phone number previously since I was using ID names to contact. And in the search results came back photos of Rosa under the name Nadia. So anyway, obviously someone's managing all these listings and using fake photos. Too bad, they were perhaps TGTBT but I was hoping it was true in Taiwan LOL.

Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though? Just a bait and switch? Can I make it clear that I will walk away if I don't like what I see?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2813629]The two "girls" (Nadia and Rosa) I contacted that both used the identical picture for their incall hotel appear to be fake ads run by the same person. I googled the phone number that was listed. I hadn't even clicked on phone number previously since I was using ID names to contact. And in the search results came back photos of Rosa under the name Nadia. So anyway, obviously someone's managing all these listings and using fake photos. Too bad, they were perhaps TGTBT but I was hoping it was true in Taiwan LOL.

Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though? Just a bait and switch? Can I make it clear that I will walk away if I don't like what I see?[/QUOTE]Never forget, and always be aware, YOU ALWAYS have that option of turning your back and walking away. As they hold that same right, and we wouldn't think twice about being rejected.

I have been in situations, where for whatever reason, I was repulsed, and I just left. And, sometimes it occurred as they were undressing, and I got a glimpse of something I didn't want to mix with. It could even be too much perfume masking an underlying condition.

Anywhere in Taipei to get a manzilian waxing and HJ?

[QUOTE=WillyTp;2758918]I've been having some absolutely mind blowing experiences with a Viet escort girl called Helen. You can find her on the escort listing site that has Euro in the title. I feel it's my duty to share as this site has been a great source of info. Admittedly the pictures are not her, but similar hair style and an absolutely fantastic looking girl in great shape with lightly and tastefully upgraded parts.

Definitely more on the higher end cost spectrum (8 k and up), but. She is such a wild one, I can't help myself.

Amazing BBBJ, if you're into rimming (and you're clean! She will quite literally blow your mind. She will control you, you will be lost. DATY, DFK, any position, just no Greek.

Please, if you do meet her, be good to her. She's a star.[/QUOTE]Can anyone let me know how to reach her? I love rimming. Hard to find good providers that perform well at it.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2813629]...Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though?..[/QUOTE]I agree with Amazake. Leave before you enter the door if you can. I have done it many times. I even use the bathroom once before I left. If it is a hotel, the girls will not make the situation worse that they would be keep out.

I prefer to deal with agents. The agent knew I always take someone if he / she made effort. It got to a point that I would go to different hotel and look interview as many girls as I could in the room until I made a choice. All agents have similar pool. There is even a website that list all the available girls all over Taiwan.