General Reports

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1575361]My company, with the advise of their travel insurance covering a few thousands staff all over the world resumed traveling as normal in Thailand, after banning it soon after the coup. Only caution is required in insurgent areas near borders with Cambodia and Myanmar.

Caution that could be also advised in central London, if there is a sudden riot. So "business as usual".

No special exemption such as "travel but we do not cover hospital if you are hit by a grenade in BKK".[/QUOTE]Nearly all travel insurance covers you for most incidents, even when there is a civil war, coup, etc. Unless your injury is a result of that action. That's what mine says. For instance, if you feel off a bar stool drunk in Phuket and someone stole your wallet, you would be covered. If you went to a demonstration in Bangkok and got beating by a soldier, and then someone stole your wallet, you would not be covered.

On the news today in Thailand.

There is now no curfew in Pattaya. Phuket. And Ko Samui.

By meeting a girl from forums (for exmaple DIA) do you give her money (if yes, how much do they expect in average? When she is leaving (as you would do with a pro girl) or before she goes with you do you buy her something, invite her for a dinner, etc.?

[QUOTE=Otari;1576858]By meeting a girl from forums (for exmaple DIA) do you give her money (if yes, how much do they expect in average? When she is leaving (as you would do with a pro girl) or before she goes with you do you buy her something, invite her for a dinner, etc.?[/QUOTE]I think the ladies are looking to be compensated in some form for their time; be it experiences (dinner / night life) gifts or cash. How much cash you give her depends on how much you have spent on her already, how long she stays with you, and how satisfactory the experience was.

Discretely slip her some cash as she is leaving and call it "taxi money. " I donno on the amount maybe 1500 to 2000 baht sounds about right.

SunLover.

[QUOTE=Otari;1576858]By meeting a girl from forums (for exmaple DIA) do you give her money (if yes, how much do they expect in average? When she is leaving (as you would do with a pro girl) or before she goes with you do you buy her something, invite her for a dinner, etc.?[/QUOTE]Not if she is not a hooker. Have you guys EVER been on normal dates with women?

[QUOTE=Otari;1576858]By meeting a girl from forums (for exmaple DIA) do you give her money (if yes, how much do they expect in average? When she is leaving (as you would do with a pro girl) or before she goes with you do you buy her something, invite her for a dinner, etc.?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1577107]I think the ladies are looking to be compensated in some form for their time; be it experiences (dinner / night life) gifts or cash. How much cash you give her depends on how much you have spent on her already, how long she stays with you, and how satisfactory the experience was.

Discretely slip her some cash as she is leaving and call it "taxi money. " I donno on the amount maybe 1500 to 2000 baht sounds about right.

SunLover.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577280]Not if she is not a hooker. Have you guys EVER been on normal dates with women?[/QUOTE]Man, got to side with Mr. E on this one. I, too, wonder the exact same thing.

To add my song sateng, if she's a hooker looking for customers, say on DIA, then she will mention money. Or, perhaps nice gifts or similar. But there will be discussion of some sort of compensation. If she's not a hooker she won't. Of course, the non-hookers won't jump into bed with you after a couple of chats on DIA and a bowl of som tam.

I've met several civvies on DIA over the years. Some I got to sleep with, some not. NONE of them mentioned money and, had I offered, there would have been a scene. I've also met plenty of hookers (defined as any woman who will exchange sex for money or other compensation) on DIA and, brother, if you can't tell the difference after a 30 minute chat, you have some serious interpersonal issues.

I will say, however, that in a traditional dating scenario you will probably be expected to pay for the bulk of the evening. Normal girls will usually offer to chip in for things, or drive, or things like that. But you make far more money than she does, even if she has a good job, so it's only fair. I've read about some dickweeds that insist the girl split the cost of everything.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1577294]Man, got to side with Mr. E on this one. I, too, wonder the exact same thing..[/QUOTE]Yes, but let's face it, 95% of the guys being here and using dating sites are doing so just as web pick up bar, hunting for a night stand.

This is also confirmed by many guys inviting the girl straight to their room at 4 pm (certainly not for a romantic candle light dinner) and the girls ready to do so, even if not mentioning money before hand. But surely expecting some sort of taxi money. Especially if one is a non resident foreigner.

So I would not neither blame the guy for the question, nor I think he might not be in a position or never has been dating normal women.
BTW, this is a forum on P4P sex, so the majority of the talks do take this into account.

I have met tons of women in Thailand through dating sites and have had sex with 80% of them the first time we laid eyes on each other when I was just visiting Thailand and while I have been living in Thailand. 90% of them I am still in contact with. I have given 0% of them money. It all depends on your game and chemistry. If you are not doing it home then don't expect to do it elsewhere. If I want a hooker then I prefer to choose them live and on the spot rather than wasting time doing it through a website.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577319]I have met tons of women in Thailand through dating sites and have had sex with 80% of them the first time we laid eyes on each other when I was just visiting Thailand and while I have been living in Thailand. 90% of them I am still in contact with. I have given 0% of them money. It all depends on your game and chemistry. If you are not doing it home then don't expect to do it elsewhere. If I want a hooker then I prefer to choose them live and on the spot rather than wasting time doing it through a website.[/QUOTE]I'm too lazy to use dating sites, but I know men who do. They tell me the same thing. They have sex with almost all of the women they meet on the first date. Remember these are Thai women who agree to a date with a farang. These women may believe there is an expectation they will have sex with the man on the first date and accept this when they agree to go out. When I was a young man in the 1970's, there were popular pickup bars where everyone in the bar assumed everyone was their looking for someone of the opposite sex to fuck. If a lady spent more than a few minutes with you, you knew how the evening was going to end. Over time that scene has changed. I suspect over time the expectations of Thai women who use dating sites may also change.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577319]I have met tons of women in Thailand through dating sites and have had sex with 80% of them the first time we laid eyes on each other when I was just visiting Thailand and while I have been living in Thailand. 90% of them I am still in contact with. I have given 0% of them money. It all depends on your game and chemistry. If you are not doing it home then don't expect to do it elsewhere. If I want a hooker then I prefer to choose them live and on the spot rather than wasting time doing it through a website.[/QUOTE]I agree on this, but as for everyone YMMV. As I said, if you are a visitor tehre is only reason to sue a dating site and it is to find someone to take to bed.

It does not mean it is the best strategy and the most successfull. That is another story.

Payong vs, not paying. We are not, I say again, to investigate about romances so inquiries on this forum refer to P4 P, it is not a drama.

I too not look for women t otake to bed through dating sites.

They are good to dream at the opportunities available but it is a waste of time: if you are abroad, the girls wishes to see you "soon", if you are there it takes too long to be sure soemthing will happen.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577319]I have met tons of women in Thailand through dating sites and have had sex with 80% of them the first time we laid eyes on each other when I was just visiting Thailand and while I have been living in Thailand. 90% of them I am still in contact with. I have given 0% of them money. It all depends on your game and chemistry. If you are not doing it home then don't expect to do it elsewhere. If I want a hooker then I prefer to choose them live and on the spot rather than wasting time doing it through a website.[/QUOTE]It doesn't take much to pick up civvies in Asia, while in North America it would be like watching paint dry.

Even an old fart like me with zero game has Thai ladies half my age hitting on me when I've shown no interest in them whatsoever.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577280]Not if she is not a hooker. Have you guys EVER been on normal dates with women?[/QUOTE]Yer I am with Mr Enternational on this one.

I have meet lots of non hookers and had a good time some all night for free some I give some food money.

You will know the ones looking for money all pro on the date site.

Come on go get some NORMAL dates.

[QUOTE=HotShaneHot;1577543]Yer I am with Mr Enternational on this one.

I have meet lots of non hookers and had a good time some all night for free some I give some food money.

You will know the ones looking for money all pro on the date site.

Come on go get some NORMAL dates.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks.

I prefer abnormal dates. Way fewer headaches that way.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1577334]I'm too lazy to use dating sites, but I know men who do. They tell me the same thing. They have sex with almost all of the women they meet on the first date. Remember these are Thai women who agree to a date with a farang. These women may believe there is an expectation they will have sex with the man on the first date and accept this when they agree to go out. [/QUOTE]I think this is a misconception. Men love to brag of their exploits, and 50% is close enough to "almost all". If you narrow the search for single moms from Issan working as a waitress or maid with those bargirl looks, yeah, they'll likely sleep with you on the first date. If they don't speak English, you don't speak Thai, and you don't immediately turn them off, what else is there to do?

However, if you pick a slightly higher demographic from the dating sites (university degree, normal jobs), the hit rate on the first date is lower, realistically somewhere between 20%-50% (for a guy in his 30's). Oddly, in this group, if a girl really likes you, it's likely she might put off the sex for the second date (just so she doesn't feel slutty).

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1578132] Oddly, in this group, if a girl really likes you, it's likely she might put off the sex for the second date (just so she doesn't feel slutty).[/QUOTE]Then the strategy should be to end the current date and reschedule it into a new date set for an hour later.