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Anybody have Lou's number from the Shark Bar? Being a bar owner right on Clisante along with him yelling "How are youuuu babyyy" at just about every lady of legal age walking by. I bet you he will have a real time "boots on the ground" assessment of just how serious the situation is. It could be that besides the club owners putting up the glass partitions, its just business as usual!
This is from Mr. Gogo's forum, but I am quoting it here since it is relevant to the conversation:
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I'm actually thinking of saving the 900usd I would spend this trip and cancelling. I'm looking at ticket prices for a quick hit to Medellin next month instead. Sosua is just to much on edge right now. Maybe its best to let the changes go into effect then plan a trip after everything calms down.[/QUOTE]
There will be no need to call for a boycott of Sosua because guys will just use their common sense logic and avoid the place altogether and wait until if and when this all blows over. Nothing like flying all the way over there looking for fun when there is no fun to be found.
[QUOTE=Sabor]
After a few months the ghost town of Sosua will be having the mayor working part time in one of the beach kiosks![/QUOTE]
And she can then walk over to have a drink with the Vice Mayor/Owner of Latinos at his bar and stare in awe at how much space his bar now has, lol!
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Even before the earthquake the Dominican government had no qualms about raids that just scooped up anybody who looked haitian and dumped them over the border at Dajabon. They aren't subtle enough to try to manipulate the comfort levels of haitian girls in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I don't think the recent crackdown on prostitution in Sosua has anything to do with the increased presence of Haitians in Sosua. The Dominican police and military have never needed an excuse to extradite or imprison Haitians who are in the Dominican Republic illegally.
The Boca Chica prostitution crackdown of 2005, the Santo Domingo casa/massage parlor crackdown of 2005, and the nationwide "Blue Laws" that followed had nothing to do with Haitians in the Dominican Republic.
The crackdown on prostitution in Sosua has everything to do with the Department of Tourism. The tourist season officially begins in three-weeks (December 15). Preserving the "normal" tourism industry in Sosua, through the reduction in prostitution and criminality during the tourist season (December 15 - April 15) is what the crackdown is about.
-Helpmann :)
I was approved off for 5 vacation days. I've been reading all the reports on the crackdown in Sosua. Im literally ready to purchase my ticket today! I'm looking to go next week. Is there anybody who can give me a straight up honest opinion to if I should go. Better yet, someone who is actually down there now would be better information. Boca chic popped into my head but I was alittle disappointed my last time I was there.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]The Dominican police and military have never needed an excuse to extradite or imprison Haitians who are in the Dominican Republic illegally.[/QUOTE]
... and often those who are here legally, sometimes even including Dominican citizens of Haitian descent.
Who besides someone trying to get their dick sucked or their balls licked or are a fat lonely woman from anywhere is coming to Sosua for vacation? When has Sosua ever been known as a vacation spot to anyone else besides someone looking to fuck?
Sosua is a little small country beach town. Nothing else. Running off the hoes is running off the life blood of Sosua. Look for crime to skyrocket in Sosua. Anyone who thought they could come here for a peaceful vacation is going to be in for a shock the minute they get that gun pointed in their face by the desperate chulo that had all his hoes run off by the politur.
I saw it today. Sosua is dead. At 3:00 I was on PC and the only chicas that I saw were on the back of a politur motorcycle sandwiched in between two cops headed to jail.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Who besides someone trying to get their dick sucked or their balls licked or are a fat lonely woman from anywhere is coming to Sosua for vacation? When has Sosua ever been known as a vacation spot to anyone else besides someone looking to fuck?
Sosua is a little small country beach town. Nothing else. Running off the hoes is running off the life blood of Sosua. Look for crime to skyrocket in Sosua. Anyone who thought they could come here for a peaceful vacation is going to be in for a shock the minute they get that gun pointed in their face by the desperate chulo that had all his hoes run off by the politur.
I saw it today. Sosua is dead. At 3:00 I was on PC and the only chicas that I saw were on the back of a politur motorcycle sandwiched in between two cops headed to jail.[/QUOTE]
Desperate people, do desperate things!
[QUOTE=Helpmann]I don't think the recent crackdown on prostitution in Sosua has anything to do with the increased presence of Haitians in Sosua. The Dominican police and military have never needed an excuse to extradite or imprison Haitians who are in the Dominican Republic illegally. [/QUOTE]
All too true. Parsley, anyone?
[QUOTE=Negro562]Who besides someone trying to get their dick sucked or their balls licked or are a fat lonely woman from anywhere is coming to Sosua for vacation? When has Sosua ever been known as a vacation spot to anyone else besides someone looking to fuck?
Sosua is a little small country beach town. Nothing else. Running off the hoes is running off the life blood of Sosua. Look for crime to skyrocket in Sosua. Anyone who thought they could come here for a peaceful vacation is going to be in for a shock the minute they get that gun pointed in their face by the desperate chulo that had all his hoes run off by the politur.
I saw it today. Sosua is dead. At 3:00 I was on PC and the only chicas that I saw were on the back of a politur motorcycle sandwiched in between two cops headed to jail.[/QUOTE]
I don't doubt it's having a real impact or that some aspect of it was triggered by the new influx of haitians since January. I'm just suggesting that the causes are more related to improving the image of the place for real estate and general tourism. The North coast is well behind the east coast (Punta Cana) in tourism but if you picture the total number of hotel rooms (mostly AI) that are completely non-mongering it's in the 10's of thousands (Playa Dorada alone has more than 10K).vs. a few hundred that are "guest friendly". Even in Sosua itself there are 10X as many non-chica friendly hotel rooms as rooms in the few mongering places. Beyond that there are 1000's of condos and villas in the Sosua area. Collectively there's vastly more money involved in the ordinary tourist trade even in Sosua.
Would you buy a condo in Sosua? There are some fabulous locations like Blue Bayou at reasonable prices. A priceless view west over the water (in a country with no west coast), cliffs, a private stairway cut in the rock to a new white sand beach, ....but if everybody thinks of Sosua as just a red light district would you invest the money? The entire chica biz is just a tiny fraction of the money in RE and regular tourism.
As far as that papi chulo is concerned the Dominican authorities really don't play when it comes to serious investment issues. Guys like that might get one warning then they just get unlucky and are found shot in the back of the head. They don't get arrested, brought to trial, get a lawyer ...etc etc. the police just deal with it informally.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]I don't doubt it's having a real impact or that some aspect of it was triggered by the new influx of haitians since January. I'm just suggesting that the causes are more related to improving the image of the place for real estate and general tourism. The North coast is well behind the east coast (Punta Cana) in tourism but if you picture the total number of hotel rooms (mostly AI) that are completely non-mongering it's in the 10's of thousands (Playa Dorada alone has more than 10K).vs. a few hundred that are "guest friendly". Even in Sosua itself there are 10X as many non-chica friendly hotel rooms as rooms in the few mongering places. Beyond that there are 1000's of condos and villas in the Sosua area. Collectively there's vastly more money involved in the ordinary tourist trade even in Sosua.
Would you buy a condo in Sosua? There are some fabulous locations like Blue Bayou at reasonable prices. A priceless view west over the water (in a country with no west coast), cliffs, a private stairway cut in the rock to a new white sand beach, ....but if everybody thinks of Sosua as just a red light district would you invest the money? The entire chica biz is just a tiny fraction of the money in RE and regular tourism.
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This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. And with that said:
[b]NOTE TO COMMITTEE[/b]
I don't care what country you are from, but pass the word: the next spot we set up PLEASE BE DAMN SURE THAT IT IS FAR THE FUCK AWAY FROM A BEACH OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD IN THE SLIGHTEST LEND ITS SELF TO FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL TOURISM!! FUCK, LET'S TAKE THIS SHIT TO THE MOUNTAINS, LOL!!!
In any case, with all of the molestations going on at the airport I think I'm just going to stay at home for a while and get more acquainted with my girl EHLE (and yes, I am well aware of the correct pronunciation :)).
As my friend from Cleveland likes to say:
Love, peace, and chicken grease!
As always you are right on with the info. When I first starting going to Sosua I would see couples (north american and european married couples) walking around Sosua at night or sitting outside bars or restaurants, eating or drinking. German and Dutch people would smoke cigars and drink beer outside.
Infiniti Blu appears to be an expensive new condo complex in Sosua (I have only seen photos of the place). Sea Horse Ranch is 5 minutes from Sosua with multi-million dollar homes. Outside of Baileys I used to see very expensive cars.
Very rich folks don't want to be harassed when they go out eat. Restaurants and other legit businesses collect taxes for the government.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]I don't doubt it's having a real impact or that some aspect of it was triggered by the new influx of haitians since January. I'm just suggesting that the causes are more related to improving the image of the place for real estate and general tourism. The North coast is well behind the east coast (Punta Cana) in tourism but if you picture the total number of hotel rooms (mostly AI) that are completely non-mongering it's in the 10's of thousands (Playa Dorada alone has more than 10K).vs. a few hundred that are "guest friendly". Even in Sosua itself there are 10X as many non-chica friendly hotel rooms as rooms in the few mongering places. Beyond that there are 1000's of condos and villas in the Sosua area. Collectively there's vastly more money involved in the ordinary tourist trade even in Sosua.
Would you buy a condo in Sosua? There are some fabulous locations like Blue Bayou at reasonable prices. A priceless view west over the water (in a country with no west coast), cliffs, a private stairway cut in the rock to a new white sand beach, ....but if everybody thinks of Sosua as just a red light district would you invest the money? The entire chica biz is just a tiny fraction of the money in RE and regular tourism.
As far as that papi chulo is concerned the Dominican authorities really don't play when it comes to serious investment issues. Guys like that might get one warning then they just get unlucky and are found shot in the back of the head. They don't get arrested, brought to trial, get a lawyer ...etc etc. the police just deal with it informally.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SavePros321]This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. And with that said:
[b]NOTE TO COMMITTEE[/b]
I don't care what country you are from, but pass the word: the next spot we set up PLEASE BE DAMN SURE THAT IT IS FAR THE FUCK AWAY FROM A BEACH OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD IN THE SLIGHTEST LEND ITS SELF TO FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL TOURISM!! FUCK, LET'S TAKE THIS SHIT TO THE MOUNTAINS, LOL!!!
In any case, with all of the molestations going on at the airport I think I'm just going to stay at home for a while and get more acquainted with my girl EHLE (and yes, I am well aware of the correct pronunciation :)).
As my friend from Cleveland likes to say:
Love, peace, and chicken grease![/QUOTE]Nothing good lasts forever, we just ride the wave till the next lull. And boy was it a good ride. I've got memories for the old folks home. Or better yet till I retire in my seventies with a young Haitiana sipping tea (the prelude to heaven).
We didn't have any mongerers die in Sosuas five year run. Made some life long friend to explore with. And did some freaky shit with some fine ass women.
BTW talked to my ace cabbie to cancel my STI pickup for Thursday, and he said look for more changes. One drink minimum at Latinos andMerengue, along with possible cover charges in the future. No more free parades of girls strolling through.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. And with that said:
[b]NOTE TO COMMITTEE[/b]
I don't care what country you are from, but pass the word: the next spot we set up PLEASE BE DAMN SURE THAT IT IS FAR THE FUCK AWAY FROM A BEACH OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD IN THE SLIGHTEST LEND ITS SELF TO FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL TOURISM!! FUCK, LET'S TAKE THIS SHIT TO THE MOUNTAINS, LOL!!!
In any case, with all of the molestations going on at the airport I think I'm just going to stay at home for a while and get more acquainted with my girl EHLE (and yes, I am well aware of the correct pronunciation :)).
As my friend from Cleveland likes to say:
Love, peace, and chicken grease![/QUOTE]Nothing good lasts forever, we just ride the wave till the next lull. And boy was it a good ride. I've got memories for the old folks home. Or better yet till I retire in my seventies with a young Haitiana sipping tea (the prelude to heaven).
We didn't have any mongerers die in Sosuas five year run. Made some life long friend to explore with. And did some freaky shit with some fine ass women.
BTW talked to my ace cabbie to cancel my STI pickup for Thursday, and he said look for more changes. One drink minimum at Latinos andMerengue, along with possible cover charges in the future. No more free parades of girls strolling through.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]We didn't have any mongerers die in Sosuas five year run. Made some life long friend to explore with. And did some freaky shit with some fine ass women.[/QUOTE]
We sure did brother, was looking forword to my next one. I think I'll hop on your next trip to Colombia dude! "Dead Man Walking"!!!
I'm not real clear on the purpose of building a wall in front of Latino's, Classico's, etc. Does that mean hookers will be allowed inside but they don't want people to see that from the outside?
And moreover, will places like Passions and CMP be allowed to stay open?
How about the girls that hang out at New Garden?
It seems like they'll stamp out one form and another will just pop up elsewhere.