Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Rinky Rock]This is my first trip to Bangkok and I am INDIAN, so I kindly request to give me some suggestions regarding massage places or bars or escort services, as I got to know that thai girls don't treat indian people properly.I would like to know whether I can go to massage places like EDEN, ANGElS or DARlING massages centres or can I call them to hotel room.Any suggestions would be highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Byee[/QUOTE]I't's not the first time this question appears on this board.The notion that Thai girls don't treat indian men well is bullshit in my opinion. It's the other way which means it depends on you for 99%. If you behave like an asshole you will be treated like one. If you behave like a gentleman, you will get a gentleman-treat. I am Indian too and I have been to Eden, Angels I/II, Darling and MANY more without a single problem (and of course I am the gentleman amongst the gentlemen but you knew that..).

[QUOTE=Rinky Rock]This is my first trip to Bangkok and I am INDIAN,[/QUOTE]By in large the most important color is 'green'. :DBut if you need to know more, search 'Indian' on the various Bkk threads - the subject has been discussed the past year or so in great depth.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]By in large the most important color is 'green'. :DBut if you need to know more, search 'Indian' on the various Bkk threads - the subject has been discussed the past year or so in great depth.[/QUOTE]NAH - TAN!! It's what 1000's are :)

[quote=satrai2000]i't's not the first time this question appears on this board.the notion that thai girls don't treat indian men well is bullshit in my opinion. it's the other way which means it depends on you for 99%. if you behave like an asshole you will be treated like one. if you behave like a gentleman, you will get a gentleman-treat. i am indian too and i have been to eden, angels i/ii, darling and many more without a single problem (and of course i am the gentleman amongst the gentlemen but you knew that..).[/quote]and well washed, well dressed, shaven and handsome, no doubt?we all should make an effort to meet local cultural standards to be well accepted.in australia, i normally only shower once a day. but in thailand the standard is higher, and therefore shower more regularly. i also make an effort to brush my teeth often and use a tongue scraper. i get a clean and scale of teeth at the thai dentist every 6 months. because i like like dfk, i make special efforts to ensure i taste good to thai ladies. i use lactacyd (weakly acidic) to clean my privates and protect against fungal infections which are easier to get in sticky climates. regular change of underwear also essential.in general efforts to be meticulously clean and fresh are well rewarded, regardless of where we come from.keeping shoes clean is not always easy in thailand when its wet.be careful not to be too stingy too. this is a big turn-off for the girls of course.

[QUOTE=Satrai2000]I't's not the first time this question appears on this board.The notion that Thai girls don't treat indian men well . . .[/QUOTE]I think that in fact there is some discrimination going on. I have heard MP and bar girls complain that "Indian" people are very smart and clever, and use that to their advantage, usually meaning driving a bargain too well, or hinting but not promising, then reducing the tip based on some unfair reason (performance was less than 10, so let's reduce the normal fee accordingly.)One girl said that she agreed to an outside service on the basis of non-FS treatment, just HJ, but upon arriving at the room FS was demanded, so do it or get out. She of course generalized from one experience, and that's how prejudice starts.But reputation is hard to change. So it is best to know in advance which locations are "friendly." I once tried a Japanese-only club that had so few patrons that they allowed me in, but only downstairs at the bar, not upstairs. They said that westerners have a bad reputation regarding paying the bill, which in clubs like these has all kinds of add-on charges. (If anyone knows the system, I'd like to have an explanation. ) Apparently we question and argue about drinks we didn't order or services we didn't get, so we're excluded.So, bottom line, it's fair to ask and better to not be surprised.

This girl used to be in one of the Sukhumvit Oilies but my memory plays tricks on me so I'm not sure which MP.Was it Olive at Angels 24?[url]http://www.escorttown.com/escort-158-32874/[/url]

Well said sir.The biggest problems some other Asian's have is the fact that in Thailand all women are treated with respect, even if they are a bar girl or massage girl. This is the way it is.In certain other countries women are not treated as equals, and as such this inbuilt attitude leads to them being abusive to Thai women, even if they think its ok or normal.Being a gentleman with a girl in Thailand will ensure you get treated with back with the same respect you give to them, Treat them like shit, and you'll be treated like shit too.[QUOTE=Satrai2000]I't's not the first time this question appears on this board.The notion that Thai girls don't treat indian men well is bullshit in my opinion. It's the other way which means it depends on you for 99%. If you behave like an asshole you will be treated like one. If you behave like a gentleman, you will get a gentleman-treat. I am Indian too and I have been to Eden, Angels I/II, Darling and MANY more without a single problem (and of course I am the gentleman amongst the gentlemen but you knew that..).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Easy2007]The biggest problems some other Asian's have is the fact that in Thailand all women are treated with respect....[/QUOTE]And which planet to you reside on? I just looked out the window cause there was screaming and shouting, and a thai guy dragging his girlfriend by her hair, shouting abusive animal names and asking why she thought she could go shopping when the house was not clean ... , respect you say?In a culture where NOT having a mia noi or three, or a geek or two is unheard of, well - respect you say? Kume on, give us a break would 'ya?

[QUOTE=Easy2007]The biggest problems some other Asian's have is the fact that in Thailand all women are treated with respect, [b]even if they are a bar girl or massage girl. This is the way it is[/b][/QUOTE]Now THAT made me raise my eyebrows very high.It is obvious you don't live here and certain you don't understand how Thais work. Bar girls and P4P Massage girls are the scum of the country, ALL Non P4P Thais despise them. respect? not ever!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Bar girls and P4P Massage girls are the scum of the country, ALL Non P4P Thais despise them. respect? not ever![/QUOTE]You folks know more then I do and I totally 100% agree with this. I personally think it's BS but class discrimination and superiority complex in people happen all over the world. Not just Thai. Quite frankly... I enjoy walking around paragon and emporium and such with my TGF who was in P4P (and probably will be back in it someday). Now she is more receptionist. I love ordering items to be delivered to her flat and I love staying at her place. She dresses nice but not over the top trying to show off, I dress nice (usually in suits due to work), we are reserved but she does hold my elbow in public and once in a while we hold hands. But what is priceless to me (and worth every baht I spend in Thai) is that I love to see the snobby snooty upity Thais have to bend and bow to her wants and wishes when she is with me. I, and she, could care less what they say when we turn our back, she's happy and I'm happy. In my experience, much of thai is all about the baht, not just P4P girls. Of course it does not help that many P4P make more in a month or two then the rest of BKK makes in a year. And again.. that goes for the rest of the world too not just Thai, I'm not picking on them because I enjoy the Thai society (don't understand them worth a damn especially the girls but enjoy them). I'll say it a million times... P4P or non P4P... ladies (and actually all people) deserve to be treated decently until they prove to be skanks and deserve to be treated like a street urchin. Not picking on you Nic... just tired of hearing about how much scum P4P girls are. Many are, some are not.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Not picking on you Nic... just tired of hearing about how much scum P4P girls are. Many are, some are not.[/QUOTE]No Offense taken mate ;)I love P4P girls, I see them several times a week LOL. The point I was trying to make is that P4P girls are scum in the eyes of non P4P Thais, not ours. In 3 years here I have found some very nice P4P girls, 2 of them I see casually outside their work as I enjoy spending time with them (not only sex).Back to the massage as this is the massage thread: I have Tried Jack & Betty massage on Sukhumvit Soi 33 [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010650[/url]I chose PINK (more a lack of options rather than me picking her) and she looks similar to the pictures on RakuRaku Website. as the Oil massage starts at 90 minutes minimum (600 thb standard price) and I was in a hurry, I opted for the Aroma Oil (500 thb / 1hour) which is more expensive and no difference from the regular oil.Rooms are very small and the showers are very old: it looks like they did not refurbish the rooms at all when switching from Fullhouse Massage to J&B.PINK is from Ubon Ratchatani and speaks a weak English, but she understood right away that I did not want to be bothered with a massage. She allowed DFK and DATY, gave a passable BBBJ and was a total starfish in bed. She liked the Mish and Doggy but was useless as a Cowgirl. I will not repeat with neither Jack & Betty nor Miss Pink.

I think you are mistaking the meaning of the word respect. We are talking respect of another human being, as opposed to respect as say a young student to a teacher.You will not see bar girls or massage girls spat on in the street, they will not be pushed aside in a queue, they will not be kicked while walking in the street. Thus they are shown the same respect as any other girl.Yes there is a level of society which despises them (mostly non P4P girls who are jealous as sin about the money the working girls get, which is often far in excess of what the non P4P girls get every month).Most men in Thailand not be disrespectful to any girl, especially if the wife is not in tow.Yes there is a level of society that gets drunk and abuses women, just like in any other country all over the world. Often termed the "tuk tuk" driver type.Where you say they are the "scum" of the country. Who is saying this? I would dearly love to know.The majority of Thai's are not living in Bangkok. If you talk to most Thai guys they do not show any disdain for working girls, they use them use, but them do not call them scum. Its generally only non P4P girls who would call them scum, to show that level of hatred for them. A vast swathe of Thailand is supported by, involved in, gets money from, or has got money from, the sex industry and as the saying goes "don't kill the goose that lays the eggs".I have been in Thailand over 20 years, and I only know a very small amount of people (in relation to the amount of people I know) who would go to the level of saying P4P girls are "scum" and mean it.So I think you took the wrong meaning for the word "respect".[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Now THAT made me raise my eyebrows very high. It is obvious you don't live here and certain you don't understand how Thais work. Bar girls and P4P Massage girls are the scum of the country, ALL Non P4P Thais despise them. Respect? Not ever! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]No Offense taken mate ;)I love P4P girls, I see them several times a week LOL. The point I was trying to make is that P4P girls are scum in the eyes of non P4P Thais, not ours.....I have Tried Jack & Betty massage on Sukhumvit Soi 33 [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010650[/url]I chose PINK (more a lack of options rather than me picking her) and she looks similar to the pictures on RakuRaku Website. as the Oil massage starts at 90 minutes minimum (600 thb standard price) and I was in a hurry, I opted for the Aroma Oil (500 thb / 1hour) which is more expensive and no difference from the regular oil.Rooms are very small and the showers are very old: it looks like they did not refurbish the rooms at all when switching from Fullhouse Massage to J&B.PINK is from Ubon Ratchatani and speaks a weak English, but she understood right away that I did not want to be bothered with a massage. She allowed DFK and DATY, gave a passable BBBJ and was a total starfish in bed. She liked the Mish and Doggy but was useless as a Cowgirl. I will not repeat with neither Jack & Betty nor Miss Pink.[/QUOTE]Give me a society in which P4P girls are NOT considered scum in the eyes of the non P4P people! It's just part of the hypocrisy of this world.I myself really do not see why a girl who offers a man the utmost physical pleasure should be reckoned to the scum of society.Back to Jack and Betty in soi 33 (it's in the subsoi opposite the Novotel). I visited this parlour twice. The rooms indeed are small but the shower was good when I was there.Both times I had the the same girl from Chiangmai (she is not on their website). She gave a very good btb and fs. So contrary to you: I WILL repeat Jack & Betty.B.t.w.: the other "girls" where not young, not slim and not pretty.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Thanks for the suggestion but that's more for ED it sounds like. Plus not sure about putting on a cream or a spray... my TGF would probably have a problem sucking that after putting things like that one. And causing a headache... why not just go cialis or such. The ones I listed were for output, increase load and # of shot volume over repeated times during the day(s) plus supposedly sweetens the taste if your GF says it's too bitter. Which is what (I thought) Nic was talking about.[/QUOTE]The procomil from a Thai Pharmacy isn't the same at what is seen on the internet. These are pills. They look like MMs, but are silvery.After the previous report and went and tried some again, I didn't get headaches again, I felt a little more agressive sometimes and every time I took 2 pills I got a boner 45 minutes later even though I wasn't in need of it.It isn't just for ED, it can also help make you want boom boom a little moreHere are a couple sites with the real stuff, not the other stuff on the internet.[url]http://www.walterritter.de/english/html/i_proc.html[/url][url]http://shop.ntp-k.co.th/shop/A212/VZLjxdYhs/syoinfo/134[/url]

3400B for 10? 340B/each - that's over $10 USPlus testosterone isn't generally recognized as a 1-shot item (and that's what the description is - testosterone)