Panama City

Good Day Gents!

(Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the forum, I looked and couldn't find anything).

I am headed to PTY, and probably will go Cafe Habanos and / or Gold Fingers for recreation, but I have seen many others talk about Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I was thinking how much nicer it would be to direct to the source.

The thing is, while this is completely legal and above board in Panama, it is not back where I am from, and I am concerned about giving out my number on WhattsApp. I have heard stories of guys whose lives were blown up because of unwanted calls and contact after the fact, but maybe those were not 'pros'.

There may be ways to use WhatsApp anonymously, but they seem very technologically cumbersome.

I am probably being silly, but has anyone ever had a concern about connecting on WhattsApp?

I was thinking about just buying a SIM card in the airport and there you go.

Am I overthinking this?

What do you think?

Cheers!

Its a big no no to use your personal phone for mongering activity. You should certainly get a local sim, and use that for whatsapp communication for getting Chicas online. BTW, panescorts you are connecting directly to the chica there is not middle person. But if you go to inperson location (Goldfinger or other massage places), you get to see what you are going to get.

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2813768]Good Day Gents!

(Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the forum, I looked and couldn't find anything).

I am headed to PTY, and probably will go Cafe Habanos and / or Gold Fingers for recreation, but I have seen many others talk about Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I was thinking how much nicer it would be to direct to the source.

The thing is, while this is completely legal and above board in Panama, it is not back where I am from, and I am concerned about giving out my number on WhattsApp. I have heard stories of guys whose lives were blown up because of unwanted calls and contact after the fact, but maybe those were not 'pros'.

There may be ways to use WhatsApp anonymously, but they seem very technologically cumbersome.

I am probably being silly, but has anyone ever had a concern about connecting on WhattsApp?

I was thinking about just buying a SIM card in the airport and there you go.

Am I overthinking this?

What do you think?

Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2813768]Good Day Gents!

(Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the forum, I looked and couldn't find anything).

I am headed to PTY, and probably will go Cafe Habanos and / or Gold Fingers for recreation, but I have seen many others talk about Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I was thinking how much nicer it would be to direct to the source.

The thing is, while this is completely legal and above board in Panama, it is not back where I am from, and I am concerned about giving out my number on WhattsApp. I have heard stories of guys whose lives were blown up because of unwanted calls and contact after the fact, but maybe those were not 'pros'.

There may be ways to use WhatsApp anonymously, but they seem very technologically cumbersome.

I am probably being silly, but has anyone ever had a concern about connecting on WhattsApp?

I was thinking about just buying a SIM card in the airport and there you go.

Am I overthinking this?


What do you think?

Cheers![/QUOTE]Getting a Sim card is probably a good idea. On the other hand I've been using WhatsApp for years and never had a problem. Take into consideration I'm an individual who is not vulnerable two disclosures of socially unacceptable activities. In short nobody gives a damn what I do.

No, you're not being silly and not overthinking this. If you require discretion, for whatever reason, you should absolutely not your personal phone number. Get a local SIM card; a burner phone is even better.

Of course the old way, going to places in person and not using any electronic communication is best, but the world seems to be moving away from that, sadly.

Keep in mind also that if you use escorts, they may require your real name so they can confirm your presence in the hotel. Most people apparently have no problem with this, for those of us who value their privacy it's a deal breaker.

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2813768]Good Day Gents!

(Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the forum, I looked and couldn't find anything).

I am headed to PTY, and probably will go Cafe Habanos and / or Gold Fingers for recreation, but I have seen many others talk about Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I was thinking how much nicer it would be to direct to the source.

The thing is, while this is completely legal and above board in Panama, it is not back where I am from, and I am concerned about giving out my number on WhattsApp. I have heard stories of guys whose lives were blown up because of unwanted calls and contact after the fact, but maybe those were not 'pros'.

There may be ways to use WhatsApp anonymously, but they seem very technologically cumbersome.

I am probably being silly, but has anyone ever had a concern about connecting on WhattsApp?

I was thinking about just buying a SIM card in the airport and there you go.

Am I overthinking this?

What do you think?

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Back on the ground. Arrived on the third. Had arranged for a young lady I met last trip to meet me at the hotel shortly after my arrival. I've always believed in telling it like it is good bad or ugly. People do change and from a girls perspective I understand participating in this lifestyle can affect you.

Last trip she was a very enthusiastic entertaining and curious individual. Entertaining banter and very satisfying physical stuff. Each of our three visits she arrived wearing clothing you would expect young college girl to be wearing.

That was last August. Yesterday she arrived dressed like someone you wouldn't see at the Del Ray on a slow Wednesday night. Plus 20 pounds. In her favor she still looked good and nothing wrong with the physical activity.

It was directly to business though. And afterwords she wanted more money and a tip. Short version she's gone full hooker Mode.

Other information the bar on the corner with the ever changing names is open with the signs covered in blue tarps. I'm going to predict a new name soon.

And by the way having lived through many of these dramas I have backups.

Lee.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2813967]No, you're not being silly and not overthinking this. If you require discretion, for whatever reason, you should absolutely not your personal phone number. Get a local SIM card; a burner phone is even better.

Of course the old way, going to places in person and not using any electronic communication is best, but the world seems to be moving away from that, sadly.

Keep in mind also that if you use escorts, they may require your real name so they can confirm your presence in the hotel. Most people apparently have no problem with this, for those of us who value their privacy it's a deal breaker.[/QUOTE]Thank you Gentlemen for taking the time to reply. I will pick up a SIM. I suppose there is no way to be completely off the radar if I bring her to my hotel, since my name is on the registry, but no reason she would take the trouble to investigate me after the fact. I imagine if anyone were to stiff the lady there would be an uproar, but people who receive services and refuse to pay are asking for trouble.

I just want to be smart. I read the FAQ her on the forum for new Mongers on how to be smart / safe.

On another not, I cannot thank those of you enough for taking the time to document how and what to do for those of us who are new.

Sex is such a normal part of life, and the fact that it has to be kept in the fringes of our society is a real shame.

I think I will head to Gold Fingers, just to get started, then to Habanos.

Do you recccomend spending the money on a no-tell / motel, because I had planned to bring the lady back to my hotel. (I understand possible chica fee, and that my valuables need to be locked up.

Thanks again guys.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2813586]RTFF. Typically $100 to $140 for an hour, but can often stretch to 2 for same price if the girl likes you.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I payed about $100 - $140. The girl I met on Day 2 offered $70 for just a blowjob a few days after I met her, but I was busy at the time. One girl I met at Alejandros asked for over $200. That's too much.

Landed early before 2 pm flight from Miami. Uber to the Riu Plaza hotel costing $17 and with tip $20 . I booked on [URL]trip.com[/URL]. Very nice hotel. 5 star. Got a good deal with breakfast. Fantastic room. Nice king bed. Plenty of pillows. Only thing lacking is only one hand towel. Plenty of charging points and lighting.

Walked around the neighborhood. Got a manicure, pedicure. Cost $17.32. Do not know why it is not rounded up. Gave $20 and told the manager balance is the tip. Got some ceviche and shrimp soup in a Peruvian restaurant. Very tasty although price is higher than USA.

Went to the casino to look around. Not a lot of people. Maybe it is early. Talked to an average looking young girl and settled on $100 for one shot. Got her to the hotel and I had to register her because I booked for two people. Experience is so so. Once the clothes came off she looked uglier than before. However did the deed and sent her on her way. She said she is from Venezuela.

Now I am relaxing because going on a full day tour tomorrow. I heard Habanos is open and try it tomorrow. Seems it is close to my hotel. Not sure if I get a girl hotel will charge me.

[QUOTE=Lee;2813916]Getting a Sim card is probably a good idea. On the other hand I've been using WhatsApp for years and never had a problem. Take into consideration I'm an individual who is not vulnerable two disclosures of socially unacceptable activities. In short nobody gives a damn what I do.[/QUOTE]Back in the days of open Facebook one girl posted pictures which was kind of bad. We like to keep our activities secret. Now Facebook has options to block and control your membership.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2814137]Back in the days of open Facebook one girl posted pictures which was kind of bad. We like to keep our activities secret. Now Facebook has options to block and control your membership.[/QUOTE]Do not use Facebook.

Lee.

Gentleman,

Newbie here (I have read everything I could find on the forum) one question, about pay. I have heard most say they negotiate up front, but pay AFTER, and then tip if they service is special. I have heard some say, they pay upfront. I understand paying for transport / driver upfront, no problem, but do you ever pay first? I have read members talk about how they pay for XYZ, they receive half and then the get bait / switch.

I am looking at escort outcall, probably at my hotel.

I apologize if I am posting this in the wrong forum, but you guys seem to have a lot of knowledge, so I am asking here.

In addition, while I have lots of ideas about PTY, anyone have any recommendations for Bocas DelToro?

And finally, is there a "Newbies guide to Mongering, The top 20 things a newbie must know" anywhere here on the forum? I same some things under FAQ, but nothing like the sage advice I am gettin from you guys.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2814276]Gentleman,

Newbie here (I have read everything I could find on the forum) one question, about pay. I have heard most say they negotiate up front, but pay AFTER, and then tip if they service is special. I have heard some say, they pay upfront. I understand paying for transport / driver upfront, no problem, but do you ever pay first? I have read members talk about how they pay for XYZ, they receive half and then the get bait / switch.

I am looking at escort outcall, probably at my hotel.

I apologize if I am posting this in the wrong forum, but you guys seem to have a lot of knowledge, so I am asking here.

In addition, while I have lots of ideas about PTY, anyone have any recommendations for Bocas DelToro?

And finally, is there a "Newbies guide to Mongering, The top 20 things a newbie must know" anywhere here on the forum? I same some things under FAQ, but nothing like the sage advice I am gettin from you guys.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I was in panama a few weeks in January and I flew from the city to bocas on air panama. Took around an hour you fly into small airport they have a dog sniffing all the luggage from the plane. I did take the bus back from David to Panama City it took around 7 hours. I saw a few girls from panescort site at their place and I alway paid them after. Uber fairly cheap in Panama City so much cheaper to go to their place than paying a fee at hotel. I felt safe around most of the city but I didn't take my real billfold I carried one with a little money few fake cards just in case got robbed or pick pocketed. It's fun this old gringo wanting to go back. Have fun.

Great question. You looking for daytime hours?

Gold Fingers and Golden time are an option, but I cannot comment not the full range of services.

Anyone?

First off, thank you so much for your reply. I'm looking for daytime hours. I have RTFF but I don't see much on sneaky links. LOL Seems like prices for 15-30 min are 30-80 depending on the chic. Also are these hotel chicas safe to visit off of websites? Can't tell if the are real or fake.

Valuptatem spa and Relax magic spa? And is golden finger or golden time worth it?

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2814276]Gentleman,

Newbie here (I have read everything I could find on the forum) one question, about pay. I have heard most say they negotiate up front, but pay AFTER, and then tip if they service is special. I have heard some say, they pay upfront. I understand paying for transport / driver upfront, no problem, but do you ever pay first? I have read members talk about how they pay for XYZ, they receive half and then the get bait / switch.

I am looking at escort outcall, probably at my hotel.

I apologize if I am posting this in the wrong forum, but you guys seem to have a lot of knowledge, so I am asking here.

In addition, while I have lots of ideas about PTY, anyone have any recommendations for Bocas DelToro?

And finally, is there a "Newbies guide to Mongering, The top 20 things a newbie must know" anywhere here on the forum? I same some things under FAQ, but nothing like the sage advice I am gettin from you guys.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there's more than one opinion but this is mine. Set a price and stick to it. A few extra dollars for the Uber is fine. Pay afterwards. Instead of escort agencies you should try some of the local pick up places. And there's some online things also like Seeking.

Lee.