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[QUOTE=Huacho;3048625]Amorcitos would be dudes so either spend more time on Pimsleur or find a gay forum.[/QUOTE]
Ja ja. Ay gracias mi amorcita.
Just kidding. The word amorcito is the correct form and is used for both men and women. Just like how the word amor is gender neutral. I don’t blame you for not knowing that subtlety as you may not be used to calling anyone that.
I do however appreciate good sense of humor incase you said it in jest, even if it is deeply sarcastic. Cheers.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048540]100% agree, always use local.[/QUOTE]It depends. I would use it toward my advantage. The girl may quote 100 USD, but she may say 40 K pesos when the exchange rate is at 3700, which would you choose?
Based on what I have observed from the Lleras girls that I am familiar with. They received USD all the time. Just recently, one sent her video to me where she laid out all money she had on a table like those you see in the news when the criminal got caught. There were a lot of 100 USD bills. Occasionally, a girl would pull out a stack of bills showing me how much they made and I always saw a stack of 20's, or 100's. Initially, I thought that was all the money she had but after a while I realized that was the money the made in a couple of days that they have not put away yet.
The starting Lleras price often is 400 K or 100 USD. The most attractive girls will ask that much and more and can make a lot money like I described above, these are very difficult to negotiate because there are many takers. The service is also often limited for the same reason. For others, you maybe able to negotiate the price down to 250 K or 200 K If you are skillful with patience. The pricing can be very flexible when they are not working at LLeras. I have Lleras girls that tag alone with others for 50 K or 100 K outside of the working hours. They consider I live here so that is the perk of staying here long term and being nice. These are like Cinderalla that they will not stay after 10 or 11 PM for what I pay.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048540] Really reconsidering whether I should go there or not. The whole point of Medellin was it was supposed to be within my budget. For the amounts quoted here, I could go Sao Paulo instead and have a blast.[/QUOTE]I think It depends. Mid-range and below in Medellin have good value. Higher range have poor value. Compare Scandallo to La Isla, or Gusto.
You can also find a decent looking girl in El Centro for 50K or 70K for 30 minutes. You can just pay them 100K or 140K for an hour or negotiate from there. Most will have no problem going with you to your place for 150K based on my personal experience. I have a girl who would just do her job and leave with less money than she would get if she stay longer. I adjust to her behavior and only had her come in the morning and pay the minimum and it's all bed time.
The primary target when visiting Medellin should not be Nuru. It can be a secondary entertainment. For the same or less cost, Bangkok can give you 2 hours, no upsell, in a VIP room with Jacuzzi and you can smoke weed if you want. LOL
The high end restaurants that charge 100+ USD for a meal or steak are poor value when you compare it to other major cities like Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires or even Tokyo.
Uber is cheap but the quality of the cars are bad. The metro system is not exactly cheap and it is more like a budget airline when you compare it to the metros that charge similar or lower price but are like business class in Asia, developed countries or not, or Sao Paulo
[QUOTE=SureshRaj;3048619]On which planet is the service, quality of the food not related to the price. A 5 $ meal will be judged differently than a 100 $ meal if the same meal is served at those prices. Basic business reality.[/QUOTE]Of course price matters. Money is it the center of every transaction and every thing we do and talk about here is transactional. In an ideal world every report would have the exact price somebody paid. But on this forum, people get attacked and criticized for paying an amount that is perceived to be excessive by others. Most guys on these forums that criticize others for paying a certain price, fail to see the value. For example, one may not see the value in paying three times the price for a first class seat on an airplane just to get 1 inch more recline and 4 inch wider seat and warm nuts and free drink. But there are always few people that see the value in it and they pay for it. But you would not call them stupid for doing so. Both a Toyota and Mercedes will get you from point A to point be, just like how a 100,000 peso girl or a 500,000 peso girl would both get you off. It is your choice on what or who you want to ride (ha ha. Pun intended). But you can't call a person dumb for their personal choices, or worse, being blamed for raising the prices for others. So, people have stopped posting prices rather than having to constantly justify to strangers on how they spend their own money.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048654]You could all be right, I have no idea.
But in the event that you're wrong, and that I'm right, there is a real possibility to end up getting drugged and waking up with your online bank accounts drained.
[/QUOTE]If you don't store valuable in the place that the girl can reach, not even in the safe, then there is no problem. That is what I do. Use your imagination on how to achieve that.
I had a friend who came to visit me the first time. I warned him be careful with Tinder in person. He was drugged and rubbed in less than a week and was shocked and left immediately. That maybe 1 in 100000 so it depends on which side you are on. Again, it's better to know the background of the poster.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048696]Of course price matters. Money is it the center of every transaction and every thing we do and talk about here is transactional. In an ideal world every report would have the exact price somebody paid. But on this forum, people get attacked and criticized for paying an amount that is perceived to be excessive by others. Most guys on these forums that criticize others for paying a certain price, fail to see the value. For example, one may not see the value in paying three times the price for a first class seat on an airplane just to get 1 inch more recline and 4 inch wider seat and warm nuts and free drink. But there are always few people that see the value in it and they pay for it. But you would not call them stupid for doing so. Both a Toyota and Mercedes will get you from point A to point be, just like how a 100,000 peso girl or a 500,000 peso girl would both get you off. It is your choice on what or who you want to ride (ha ha. Pun intended). But you can't call a person dumb for their personal choices, or worse, being blamed for raising the prices for others. So, people have stopped posting prices rather than having to constantly justify to strangers on how they spend their own money.[/QUOTE]Price is relative and what that means is that a lot of money to one person is not a lot of money to another person. How much you make and how much you have shapes your perception of price and willingness to pay a little more or not care as much about a few dollars. I know guys criticize other for how much they pay if guys pay more than they pay, but how much you make and how much you have affects how you feel about a few dollars. For example, if you have millions of dollars, paying an extra 100 mil or $26 more for a girl that you really like is insignificant to you. If you have a tight budget and not much in savings, 100 mil may mean a lot of you. It is not only working class men who visit Medellin, many guys with money also visit Medellin. New York City and Miami is very close to Medellin and there are plenty of guys with money from there who visit and extra 100 mil or even 300 mil is just not that much money relative to what they have, especially if they are on vacation. That is a point that many guys miss, that the guy you are calling a simp or an idiot simply makes 10 times more than you or just has a lot of money.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3048771]Price is relative and what that means is that a lot of money to one person is not a lot of money to another person....... That is a point that many guys miss, that the guy you are calling a simp or an idiot simply makes 10 times more than you or just has a lot of money.[/QUOTE]This, and I've met quite a few guys, particularly the 'young weekend millionaire' crowd who are simply horrible with money and blow all they have. I've met guys who complained about being ordered to pay $600/ mth for child support and then spent $1000 on girls / partying over the next 3 days. This noted, that's their prerogative.
Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?
Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. I even modified the time to 20 minutes later just to be a super polite so she wouldn't have to wait at all for me. So I turned up at the motel on time feeling super horny and excited after having taken the Viagra. After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! So anyway I sent her a couple more messages asking where she was, feeling a combination of annoyed with her for thinking she can make me wait and also realizing the Viagra was wearing off so I wouldn't be able to enjoy the sex as much. Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, giving me stories that she got a moto there that was involved in some kind of collision. She sent me a photo of her bruised ankle, she left that guy and refused to pay him and called another one and had to wait another 10 minutes. Got stuck in loads of traffic etc etc. Then said she had to walk home because she didn't have enough money for transport and some random man picked her up and took her home, plus she guilt tripped me by sending the photos of her bruised ankle.
So I explained to her my position that it's disrespectful to make me wait all that time, that she know's I'm a foreigner as well and don't want to hang around in the lobby of a short-term motel for 40 minutes and also about the Viagra wearing off. I told her that's why it was important that she was there at the specific time. And also why guilt trip me about her bruised ankle because it had nothing to do with me.
Anyway was I right to have left, did I do anything wrong? I feel a bit bad for her in a way because I suspect she was more naive than playing games. I didn't like it that she asked earlier if I'd pay her transport because I know girls can use that as a way of getting extra cash. She said she was going to get a motorbike for which I said I'll give you 5 K max. But looking back I wish she'd just asked for a bit more money and got herself an Uber, because I don't want to get involved in paying the drivers myself when they could be her friends overcharging me etc. Anyway we argued a bit about it on Facebook after she got home but in the end she seemed to understand my point of view. She's actually a super calm person but seems to confuse a paid sex date with a real date and kind of assumes that because she's super cute I would just be OK with her being late. I told her if it was a real date you can be half an hour late but not if you're an escort agreeing to meet me at a specific time and I'm paying you for it. Anyway, I'd appreciate others views on this and advice re. Viagra and Cialis.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play.[/QUOTE]Issues #1: Cialis works bit different. It takes long to act and long to wear off. I normally take small 5 MG daily on trips only. But I do get bad headache once in while.
Issue #2: Majority of people here will agree that Chica most of the time cannot be depended upon to be punctual. I actually get surprised if they are on time. So always keep in mind and plan that 30-45 minuets are nothing and even no-shows are possible.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?
Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. I even modified the time to 20 minutes later just to be a super polite so she wouldn't have to wait at all for me. So I turned up at the motel on time feeling super horny and excited after having taken the Viagra. After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! So anyway I sent her a couple more messages asking where she was, feeling a combination of annoyed with her for thinking she can make me wait and also realizing the Viagra was wearing off so I wouldn't be able to enjoy the sex as much. Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, giving me stories that she got a moto there that was involved in some kind of collision. She sent me a photo of her bruised ankle, she left that guy and refused to pay him and called another one and had to wait another 10 minutes. Got stuck in loads of traffic etc etc. Then said she had to walk home because she didn't have enough money for transport and some random man picked her up and took her home, plus she guilt tripped me by sending the photos of her bruised ankle.
So I explained to her my position that it's disrespectful to make me wait all that time, that she know's I'm a foreigner as well and don't want to hang around in the lobby of a short-term motel for 40 minutes and also about the Viagra wearing off. I told her that's why it was important that she was there at the specific time. And also why guilt trip me about her bruised ankle because it had nothing to do with me..[/QUOTE]A couple of things: These drugs Cialis and Viagra don't "work" the same with everyone. I use Cialis and that lasts for several hours. I usually take it an hour before a meeting. I also use a a drug from RO that combines Cialis and Viagra and lasts for 18 hours. It only takes 15 minutes to kick in. It's like cherry tablet that you suck on until it evaporates.
In South America. Sometimes the folks are not sticklers for time like we are here. These deadlines we give people from our habits here in USA might be unfair. Unless you need something like a taxi to take you to an airport. It takes women longer to get ready than it does for men. I try to factor that in and don't do the "rush and fuck" time oriented dates. I am little older than you so I like to take my time.
I always send an Uber so I know when they are coming and that they are alone. If you leave it up to them, they will take the cheapest option that always takes longer. I never heard of a local using Uber as it costs more. The girls are relieved when I offer to take care of their transportation. When I did not do this strange dudes would arrive with them. It's not worth it. At least not for me.
When I visit I do use Prepagos only freelancers. I think there is a difference. I don't like this idea of "service" it turns me off. The best experiences are when it is not a service. The only exception is if you are seeing Porn Star. That can be a service and a good experience. Also, this is me but I don't put a label on the girl just because I paid her. I am not going to refer to girl who obviously isn't working for an agency as an escort. There's no upside to refer to anyone as such. That's me. I would not want to be referred to or treated like a "John. " There's no need for labels.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048692]You can also find a decent looking girl in El Centro for 50K or 70K for 30 minutes. You can just pay them 100K or 140K for an hour or negotiate from there. Most will have no problem going with you to your place for 150K based on my personal experience. I have a girl who would just do her job and leave with less money than she would get if she stay longer. I adjust to her behavior and only had her come in the morning and pay the minimum and it's all bed time.[/QUOTE]What hotel do you usually stay when bringing girls from El Centro? I'm wondering how far they are willing to travel on uber together.
Also wondering how badly would an Asian tourist stand out walking around El Centro? I'm of Asian descent and visited Bogota before on a vanilla trip so did not partake. Although there weren't many other Asian tourists that I saw, it did not seem like the locals were surprised to see me. I honestly was expecting a second or two longer stares or the occasional "chino! Chino!" but perhaps all of that was happening behind my shoulders?
I'm thinking to hit El Centro during the day to find one to my liking that is also willing to come back to my hotel away from the area.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour.
Anyway we argued a bit about it on Facebook after she got home but in the end she seemed to understand my point of view. She's actually a super calm person but seems to confuse a paid sex date with a real date and kind of assumes that because she's super cute I would just be OK with her being late.[/QUOTE]The phrase not being able to get laid in a brothel comes to mind. Did she say she can be late because she is cute or is this Coupe66 climbing into her mind and broadcasting what he thinks he sees inside?
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]I told her if it was a real date you can be half an hour late but not if you're an escort agreeing to meet me at a specific time and I'm paying you for it. Anyway, I'd appreciate others views on this[/QUOTE]You seem to be taking it personal when it is just Colombia. Had a chick who is not a hooker supposed to meet me at the airport at 2 pm. When I landed and asked where she was, she nonchalantly said she was home. Not doing shit. No emergency, just at home. Said she would be at the airport at 2:30. Well if you think I am waiting around until 2:30 you have lost your damn mind. Stopped talking to her. She kept messaging and messaging. So I gave it another chance. Always talking about how she wants to be with me. So next time flight was due to arrive at 2 pm. We agreed to meet at the airport at 2 pm. I landed and asked where she was. At home again. I have not said a word to her since. I told her that I am 100% sure that on her job when she agrees to be there at 8 am, she does not chill at home and tell them at the last minute that she will come at 8:30. And on top of all her bullshit, she has the nerve to call me rude. I go to her city twice with plans of meeting her and she stands me up twice? The nerve of that broad calling someone rude.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]But looking back I wish she'd just asked for a bit more money and got herself an Uber, because I don't want to get involved in paying the drivers myself when they could be her friends overcharging me etc.[/QUOTE]You could have gotten her a personal helicopter ride and there would have still been an excuse. When I am nowhere around it seems all the chicks are sitting around bored with nothing to do. As soon as I arrive it seems that life hits them with all kinds of emergencies and things they must do, so fuck me being there. The other stuff takes precedence. So I just get in where I fit in and the first one who makes it to home base is the one I put my marbles on. That is why I always have a be, see, and the plan.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]and advice re. Viagra and Cialis.[/QUOTE]All of that shit gives me a massive headache so it is not worth the squeeze.
P.S. On the flipside I met a nurse in Bogota. She spent the night with me. Everything running smooth. The next day she needed to go home and take care of some business and get some more clothes. When she got back I was not at the apartment. I was literally a 5 minute walk away down at the mall. I told her I was on the way back. That broad cussed me out and left before I got there talking about how I wasted her time. Then I know a couple of chicks that just like to argue. Obviously it is them, because this happens with nobody else. Then there are chicks who are busy and you are supposed to understand. But the moment you are busy they catch an attitude. I just take it that a lot of folks have issues and move on to the next. Can't see how a guy is married or has a girlfriend and will put up with shit like this.
So I went back to Medellin Dec 19th- Dec 25th. Went LAX-CDMX and had a LAID over at the Hilton with a former Tijuana girl. Sexy as FK. Had a 6 hour gap before the flight to Panama and then Medellin. Getting laid while waiting for a flight sure as hell beats being in that shitty Salas lounge.
Anyway, I get to MDE in the early AM on a Friday. Not much of a line. Passport stamped. I met up with Blupillow. Will do a full report on Medellin later.
Anyway, Medellin was just a stopover. The real destination was Rio De Jainero for NYE and being an American Citizen, I noticed I needed a visa last minute for Brazil- which I got-phew. You'd be amazed at how hard it is to get logistically from MDE to GIG in comfort. Luckily I found a business class flight on points going through Miami and this is where the trouble began.
I have global entry. I'm a US Citizen- been naturalized for over 20 years and from a strongly allied country with the USA that is not Turk or Arab. I want to emphasize, I just look like your average white guy.
I get into MIA on Christmas Day, scan my face at the global entry counter and boom- Off to secondary. OK. Meanwhile no one is telling me what this is about. I get to a room with a detective who is interrogating me and searches my luggage. This is the second time I get shit when going through customs in Miami out of the 2 times I've been there. Maybe its because I'm from LAX? Idk.
The worst part-.
The detective asks me what I did in Medellin and where I stayed. I have him the info of the Airbnb. Somewhat standard.
Then he gives me a piece of paper / pamphlet stating that they can go through my phone and social media accounts and laptop. I had 2 phones and a shitty laptop I bought in MDE to apply for the Brazil visa because the checkboxes wouldn't load on mobile for the photo upload.
Then he has a conversation with me about women in Medellin and I understand where this is going. They are screening for Pedos so I wasn't worried one bit. He mentioned that women in MDE drug men and rob them (no shit) - I told him that I only stay at secure Airbnbs that check IDs and filter out minors- I specifically mentioned that and then he admitted that they were looking for pedophiles.
He askes me for my passcodes and I am asked to leave the room while he checks my phones. This was somewhat embarrassing. He probably saw the Hongkong chicas from Tijuana I got on there on my Cabo trips with them and some kinky shit I do with them. Asks me if I have a connecting flight- which I tell him I do for Rio De Jainero. He looks at the shitty 20 year old laptop and decides not to go through it LOL, even though I encourage him to as it literally jhad nothing on it.
About 20 minutes go by, I can hear some laughs (smh), I get my phone back, a thank you for my cooperation and transparency and am sent on my way to my flight. I go to the AA flagship lounge and take a nice hot shower after feeling violated.
I suspect they downloaded my info. Not sure if changing my passcode will even do anything.
Just and FYI for you guys.
Reports on MDE and GIG coming in the near future. Got to hangout with Vagabundo in Rio.
MDE and Rio are two completely different vibes.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?[/QUOTE]These are only my thoughts, not medical advice. Viagra was inialally developed, and is now approved, to relieve high blood pressure. It would need to be taken every day if that was the reason someone took it. So it probably is not harmful to your health if taken every day, even if taken for ED. I've never had any side effects from generic viagra. I have tried Cialis and had side effects, slight fever, dizziness. It is supposed to be effective for ED up to 36 hours. The smallest dosage you can buy is 2.5mg. You can always cut those in half; but everything I've read about it is that you should talk to your doctor about the proper dose for you.
[QUOTE]Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. ... After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! ... Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, ...[/QUOTE]I know it is annoying to wait for a chica. More often than not I've experienced them getting ready to leave their house at the time we agreed to meet. I chalk that up to their lifestyle. They also do it when they have other types of appointments. If she is someone I really want to see, not just another sex session, I will wait for her. My thinking is that she will show up in less time than if I contact another chica and wait for her. I always give them advance notice before I cancel. Like, "If you're not here in 15 minutes, don't show up because I won't be here." That usually wakes them up and they will give me honest responses if they are on their way.