Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nounce;3048989]Without a picture so I am going to just assume she is like all others. For 2 M, you can have 5 girls at 400 K each and have 5 shots. 400 K is already high.[/QUOTE]How long is 5 shots though for time? Where I am from, it's the time not shots, the service is usually unlimited for the duration.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3048682]You can do just that for the girls you just met. There is a difference between bed / sex time, and staying time. There is no reason to waste time and effort If all you want is bed time. Ideally, it's better to start with sex and end with sex, then do everything in between or after sex.
[/QUOTE]How do you tell them this? Do you pay a different amount for stay time versus bed time?

[QUOTE=Combo;3048998]It's not a good price and more importantly, why would you want to commit that much time and money to a girl you've never even met before?[/QUOTE]Is there an amount you can recommend? I just figured it's easier. $800 here gets you 2-3 hours so I figured it's a good deal.

[QUOTE=Giz99;3049036]That seems extremely high. I would not do overnight with anyone until I have seen them a couple of times and have some level of trust.[/QUOTE]Good point. Will take this into consideration. What's reasonable? I was using an online listing site so maybe the prices are higher.

[QUOTE=Omniscient;3048813]Also wondering how badly would an Asian tourist stand out walking around El Centro? I'm of Asian descent and visited Bogota before on a vanilla trip so did not partake. Although there weren't many other Asian tourists that I saw, it did not seem like the locals were surprised to see me. I honestly was expecting a second or two longer stares or the occasional "chino! Chino!" but perhaps all of that was happening behind my shoulders?[/QUOTE]You'll stand out but you won't. If anything, the way you dress and walk is what will make you stand out. If you're dressed like a local, no one will give you a second glance. If you're dressed like a tourist or passport bro, you'll get approached or catcalled down some of the streets. I think there are a couple of expats that hang out there are Asian.

I remember getting more attention for being Asian visiting Sosua, but this was some years ago.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048891]I find a daily 5 MG of Cialis work great to keep your game up. I usually take it after lunch. Plus it's cheaper (generic) in Medellin than Viagra. If I know there is a big night, a 2nd 5 MG before heading out work out great too. Sometimes I take an Aleve if I take two, since Aleve lasts 12 hours it makes sure I don't get a headache.

You have to remember, mentally (regardless of physical age), they're teenage kids. Not only do you have the fact that in Latin America no one ever stick to schedules or exact times, but on top of that, they're young and time management is not a skill they've learned. I always offer and get an Uber for them to come see me. I mean, yeah, it's kind of like an extra tip, but then I have clear tracking of when they're getting there. Plus, I've learned that if I need them to be somewhere specifically at a set time (like for a reservation), I don't tell them the time they need to be there. I tell them the time I need them to leave their house and when an Uber will be arriving to get them. Then I usually message them 30 minutes before to make sure that they're getting ready. I'm very polite, so the girls just take it as me giving them extra attention, but I stay on top of it. This has worked out for me pretty good in terms of making sure somebody is somewhere at the time I need them to be there.

But if I'm not watching a clock, like if I ask a girl to meet me for a beer and I know I'm going to be hanging out there for a while, then I just chill, say, hey, meet me at eight. But I know that she might not appear till nine. Now, I might still inquire along the way to make sure she's on course, but sometimes you just have to go with the local flow. And if they're not ready in time for me to order the Uber, then I just relax and say, hey, no problem, another day. The ones who are really, really wanting to see me will immediately rush and make it work, and the other ones will be like, okay, we'll do it another day. I usually have a plan be or see in my mind for these situations. After all, I'm the one on vacation, so I'm not going to get stressed over things.[/QUOTE]That's great advice about Ubers, thanks a lot! But how does that work in practice, I reserve it on my name and when it arrives she has to give my name? Any other technical issues with doing that, I guess not if I'm paying them cash. Only problem is if she does something crazy it will affect my rating. Re. The Viagra alternatives I'll have to look into that. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;3049105]That's great advice about Ubers, thanks a lot! But how does that work in practice, I reserve it on my name and when it arrives she has to give my name? Any other technical issues with doing that, I guess not if I'm paying them cash. Only problem is if she does something crazy it will affect my rating. Re. The Viagra alternatives I'll have to look into that. Thanks again![/QUOTE]Uber has a feature, where you can order a car for somebody else in their name, but you pay and track it. You just need a name and their phone number, which I already have from WhatsApp-ing with them. I use the same feature when ordering them an Uber to send them home. There is always a risk when ordering an Uber that on the way home she tells a driver to go somewhere else and somewhere else, you know, extends it so it costs more. But you see it on the screen so you can bring it up with her if that happens. So far it's worked good for me.

[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]For $2 million I'd expect her to come out Friday and not leave until Monday, LOL.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3049116]Uber has a feature, where you can order a car for somebody else in their name, but you pay and track it. You just need a name and their phone number, which I already have from WhatsApp-ing with them. I use the same feature when ordering them an Uber to send them home. There is always a risk when ordering an Uber that on the way home she tells a driver to go somewhere else and somewhere else, you know, extends it so it costs more. But you see it on the screen so you can bring it up with her if that happens. So far it's worked good for me.[/QUOTE]I do exactly the same. You calling Uber also helps when girls have no data on their phones. Managing their own indrive app is a pain without data even if they have WiFi at home. (local app, popular among paisas) downside with indive. CC can't be loaded so you have to pay cash or trasferencia.

V told be about his date with W.

Be being a great wingman, so he shows V a lineup from G (1), G (2). G (100) and W is G (40) in the lineup.

The cost is represented by the index. G (1) costs 1 unit, and G (100) costs 100 units and is the most expensive.

[B]Game 1: [/B]

Condition:

V picks out 3 in the following that he considers to have the same quality as W. This is entirely based on V's perspective.

G (1), G (40), G (100).

Questions:

If you were V looking for W quality, who would you pick?

V-5 makes 5 times the money of V. If you were V-5 looking for W quality, who would you pick?

[B]Game 2: [/B]

Condition:

One more condition added to game 1.

Assume only G (30) to G (100) are available in Lleras, and you are only looking for W in Lleras.

Same questions as Game 1:

If you were V looking for W quality, who would you pick?

V-5 makes 5 times the money of V. If you were V-5 looking for W quality, who would you pick?

[B]Game 3: [/B]

Condition:

The quality is represented by the index. G (100) is the best. V defines what quality is.

You can only pick 1.

Questions:

3. 1. If you were V, who would you pick when the unit is 1. G (1) costs $1 while G (100) costs $100.

3. 2. Substitute V with V-5 in 1. Who would you pick.

3. 3. If you were V, who would you pick when the unit is 100. G (1) costs $50 while G (100) costs $5000.

3. 4. Substitute V with V-5 in 3. Who would you pick.

I don't expect any answer as this helps establish the context for my posts later.

[B]My answer: [/B]

I pick the optimal cost for game 1 and 2.

I would pick G (100) for 3. 1, 3. 2.

I am not sure what I would pick for 3. 3 and 3. 4 but I am certain 3. 4 (V-5) will have a wider selection than 3. 3 (V).

Game 1 and 2 is about getting more value with better information or access.

Game 3 is about bigger budget that can have more choice. My view is one can't determine price just like you can't determine the price of a business class ticket. The price is determined by others. All you can do is to set your budget and that budget will only buy you what fall in the price bracket.

I understand pay more to buy better quality. I don't get paying more to buy the same quality when enough information is available.

[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049042]How long is 5 shots though for time? Where I am from, it's the time not shots, the service is usually unlimited for the duration.[/QUOTE]I have described a base case here and it is the worst case scenario.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3048988]Default is 1 shot if not specified. LLeras default is 1 hour. Centro is 30 minutes. Casa or bar often is from 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]The reality is it depends on the information and access you have. You are going to hear different answers here and they could all be right based on what they know.

An experienced person can get two shots for 2+ hours between 250 and 350 for a typical facebook girl. Let's assume 250 for 2 hours, than it is 1 M for 8 hours max.

A girl from Centro is 1 shot for 30 minutes so 1 hour will be 2 shots. If it is 50 K for 30 minutes, than it is 1 M for 10 hours for 20 shots. There is a range of the price but 70K should get you most of them.

When you get to multiple hours for the same girl, the price is very negotiable so it will be much less than 1 M. How low you can get depends on what you have access to. What I am saying is that if you can afford it, just choose the best you can get and not try to optimize it to get what others are getting. I personally don't offer overnight and what I pay won't be the price you can get. I don't like being a host to them for the extra work that I have to do. See my Value Game post.

[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049042]

How do you tell them this? Do you pay a different amount for stay time versus bed time?

[/QUOTE]I think most people don't. I don't and I don't negotiate time. I can get what I want at my price if the girl likes me. I know all the girls that I like very well. I have been to their home. I know some of their family. I got a 2 thumbs from a father of a girl in a video call. LOL. I have a pretty strong pull with the girls that I see often.

Stay time is the time she is with you. Bed time is the time that includes BJ, sex. Eating is not bed time. If you want multiple hours of bed time, then don't let stay time cut into it.

Look up posts by Nomars777. He is good.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3048625]Amorcitos would be dudes so either spend more time on Pimsleur or find a gay forum.[/QUOTE]Not true: amorcito as a term of endearment for a woman is perfectly acceptable, is the norm.

Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.

So, this is kind of funny, and kind of sad, being that I'm a mid-50's guy and should know better. That said, a note of caution for all my mongering colleagues.

Went to Medellin for the long MLK weekend, arriving Friday and leaving late afternoon Monday, usually a perfect weekend trip to get in, get some chicas done, and get out, with a few drinks and food in between. I had informed a few of my favorites that I'd be there, so I had 2 that booked me for Friday night.

A friend of mine let me know that a friend of his from Florida was in town and by himself, so I went to go meet him, walk Lleras, give him some pointers, and then we sat down in front of Lleras Town to watch the chica parade. By 11 PM, my 2 friends showed up and I got them some food and drinks and another mojito for me. At this point, I've had 2 and would have 1 more. I did leave my drink unattended while I ran to the bathroom, but considering the chicas I have been around several times before and this guy was a friend of a friend, I didn't think any harm would come from it.

Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.

First hour. Spectacular - like a rave / laser light show going on in my head while I fucked both of these girls, taking turns. Spectacular. At some point, I got really into the light show in my head, closed my eyes and fell asleep.

Second hour. Woke up to the darker skinned girl putting my socks and shoes on and saying, "Hey, we're at time, we have to go!" Ok, sure. Checked my watch and she was dead on, it was after 3 AM and we'd checked in about 1 AM-ish. At this point, things went south quickly. I seriously could NOT: stand, walk, think straight. In my brain I could put together sentences, but I could not actually spit them out. What I did spit out was a whole bunch of vomit, after I stopped somewhere along 10 and tossed every last thing I'd eaten and drunk in the last 6 hours. It was horrible.

We get to my hotel and the girl at the front desk is pissed because I'm obviously out of it and cannot even talk. We get to my room, it's clear the girls want money, which I do owe them, but I cannot find my money. I'm just that out of it. Unreal. In my head I'm thinking, "Hey, I know I owe you, let me sleep this off, and I'll get you tomorrow". They were NOT having it. Finally I find a card, stumble up the hill with the 2 of them, take out money (no excess, shockingly, and had all my change in the morning) and paid them, they dropped me back off to the hotel, whereupon I threw up some more in 2 open bathrooms on the way to my room and then in my bathroom.

Woke up about 4 hours later and could not sleep. I felt both terrible, for having put the girls and the front desk girl through my obvious impairment, but also just physically. Even more though, I kept thinking how fucking stupid I was and how if I had not been with 2 girls that were at least fairly well known to me, I would absolutely have been a sitting duck, open goal, clear target, whatever metaphor you want to use. I was completely incapacitated and would not have been able to resist anything or anyone.

The next day I met both girls, along with my friend's friend near Botero and gave them a little extra for their efforts in saving me, which I really do appreciate and they both related that Tussi is very strong and they had no idea I was a complete first timer, otherwise they would've suggested that I not do it.

All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!

Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again!

Of course, your mileage may vary, your experience may differ and no judgment on those who do partake, but as one of the taxi guys told me, "anything that goes up the nose, it's no good!" Yes, lesson learned!

Best of luck and happy mongering!

[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]A possible reason she used that high figure is because that is what a ticket to the BB concert this last weekend cost.

If a girl likes you she goes easy but if a girl does not like you at all she give you a price like two million.

I wanted the lie flat seat which actually sucked with American Airlines because their 787 business has this fucking tray that tucks in front of you that is way too slow and keeps hitting your knees even if you slightly bend them when sleeping.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3048957]I'm guessing that your itinerary history trumped you "looking like the average white guy" and set off bells and whistles. LAX / MDE / MIA. GIG is not typical, especially the three hour flight north to go nine hours in the opposite direction. From Medellin via Bogota you can get direct flights to Rio on LATAM, GOL, or Avianca. Avianca sucks but you can use Copa miles. GOL is OK and they are affiliated with American Airlines' frequent flyer program. I'm glad it was only a minor inconvenience and look forward to reading your reports.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!

Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and taking responsiblity for your actions rather than be like some and try to blame someone else. I hope you still had enough fun to make your long weekend worthwhile.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3049246]Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.[/QUOTE]Comparing Medellin today to how it was during the pandemic is not really possible. You may want to consider reading up from this forum and seeing where current rates are at and how things work these days. In terms of finding apartments, I find last minute sometimes works better, as some people drop the rates because they haven't rented. But then again, some of my favorite apartments are only available three to six months out. So it all depends if you want a favorite place or if you want to find the best deal.