Moscow

Hi dudes,

I am planning a trip to Moscow. Already tried the strip clubs, the massage parlors. I wish to find a real club with girls who are here for that. Any tips at this end of 2021? The world is spinning and the clubbing scene as well.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2629329]Hi dudes,

I am planning a trip to Moscow. Already tried the strip clubs, the massage parlors. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2629329]Hi dudes,I wish to find a real club with girls who are here for that.[/QUOTE]For "that" you mean good old "sex"? If yes: In Russia this kind of venue is called "salon". They are mostly not official establishments. That said, they try to keep a low profile (which makes them not so easy to find, specially if you don't speak Russian). Some are located backyards, old houses in suburb (or sometimes in saunas but this is now more rare).

Such salons are more pragmatic but they come and go very fast; this fluctuation is because of the cops (Russians call them musor). St. Petersburg has more saloni than Moscow.

I personally have nothing against strip clubs, but I prefer saloni for practical reasons as I have lack of time and cash.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2633313]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

.[/QUOTE]Sorry but this is just wrong. Penthouse, the Loft, Aurora, and Angels are all designed straight up for sex and penetration. Not in the club of course but they have attached hotel and you pay the bar fine to take the girl to the hotel. At Aurora and Angels they actually have the waitress carry your drinks to the room and there is no checkin as it's all one thing. Penthouse you leave the club go downstairs and checkin to the hotel where the girls meet you.

Not cheap. Expect to pay R18000 for the girl and barfine. But super excellent experience. I have posted on this before if you search for Aurora or Penthouse.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2633313]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

For "that" you mean good old "sex"? If yes: In Russia this kind of venue is called "salon". They are mostly not official establishments. That said, they try to keep a low profile (which makes them not so easy to find, specially if you don't speak Russian). Some are located backyards, old houses in suburb (or sometimes in saunas but this is now more rare).

Such salons are more pragmatic but they come and go very fast; this fluctuation is because of the cops (Russians call them musor). St. Petersburg has more saloni than Moscow.

I personally have nothing against strip clubs, but I prefer saloni for practical reasons as I have lack of time and cash.[/QUOTE]Grazie dottore. I was much more looking not at a salon but places like Night Flight or a normal disco where students or 30's girls are not against going out with someone for money. The only places I know are not affordable or are places where you cannot get in without a Rolex and a platinum.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2634932] are not against going out with someone for money.[/QUOTE]Well, as for me I don't want go nowhere with a pro or semi pro. Even for free, even if she is hot. Because I have GF, who expects a lot of my quality time.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2634932] places where you cannot get in without a Rolex and a platinum.[/QUOTE]Wow, they still practice those exaggerated face control for discos in Moscow? Even in times of omicron, inflation and sanctions? Very interesting. One more reason for me not to go there.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2633572]Sorry but this is just wrong. Penthouse, the Loft, Aurora, and Angels are all designed straight up for sex and penetration.[/QUOTE]Sounds cool. But for me 18 k is still a bit over my budget for p4 p, unfortunately, specially considering the fact that I don't drink and prefer to play during the afternoon of weekdays. Nah, I am not a nishchebrod, ha ha, just have other priorities for now. Still a monger thou. I guess. But one without Rolex and platinum.

I don't need a hotel, I don't need a bottle of whiskey nor a private dance.

But if somebody know a good salon, where their only (or at least main) product is the good old sex, please post here, I will got there with pleasure.

I have travelled to Moscow a few times but resisted the allure of the clubs until now because the price seemed to be rather high. This time, maybe because of Covid or because of a general clean up that seems to be in progress I bit the bullet and tried out Aurora, Hunters and Angels over a period of 10 days.

All three (and I assume others in the group) are clones of each other. 2000 R entry, coat check and somewhat bored looking hostesses. All three clubs were fairly empty, once again probably because of Covid. 25-odd girls, they take turns to do a strip show and then come to all the patrons one by one to grind on you for a few minutes. You can stick a few hundred in their garter if you like, you can also turn them away (though I think no reason to not partake). Most girls proposition you for a private dance, I am not sure what that entails as I did not accept. There are some food and drinks available at high prices, I tried a few things but would not recommend as all was sub par quality.

Sex if you want is 14000 R for the girl and 6000 for the room, I believe it has gone up from previous rates. The waitresses are topless and can also be taken to the room. The hostesses wear gowns, ditto for them. If you want to take a girl out of the club you pay some ridiculous amount like 15000 or 30000 R. All places have a hotel adjacent or on the upper floors, rooms are OK enough though I found Aurora to be a little older and seedier than the others and Hunters to be the nicest. On all three occasions I found the girls to be very, very well trained, they all had absolutely great attitude and seemed to be clearly instructed to achieve a very high satisfaction level both in the sex as well as in the pre and post talk. On two occasions the girls did not want to any kissing, third one lots. On two occasions the girls without insistence did some crazy ball licking, third occasion not. Overall service was super, with many similarities that showed good training of the girls but still some variations.

All three girls spoke English and engaged in a lot of talk before, during and after- once again it seemed that they made this part of the overall experience.

I think this overall experience is great, it is debatable whether it is worth the high price of 20000 R minimum or more if you take a few extras. The girls are very pretty and frankly, there is nothing to complain about. Maybe this is why I am not 100% sure whether I would repeat often, because it is too much like a "formula" that is applied every time and there is a little less excitement than some other mongering opportunities. Still, nothing to beat the sheer convenience and quality.

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Sex if you want is 14000 R for the girl and 6000 for the room, I believe it has gone up from previous rates. The waitresses are topless and can also be taken to the room. The hostesses wear gowns, ditto for them. If you want to take a girl out of the club you pay some ridiculous amount like 15000 or 30000 R. All places have a hotel adjacent or on the upper floors, rooms are OK enough though I found Aurora to be a little older and seedier than the others and Hunters to be the nicest. On all three occasions I found the girls to be very, very well trained, they all had absolutely great attitude and seemed to be clearly instructed to achieve a very high satisfaction level both in the sex as well as in the pre and post talk. On two occasions the girls did not want to any kissing, third one lots. On two occasions the girls without insistence did some crazy ball licking, third occasion not. Overall service was super, with many similarities that showed good training of the girls but still some variations.

[/QUOTE]So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2640369]So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?[/QUOTE]Flat hour. The management calls the room after 1 hour and asks that the girl and you clear out. Though on all occasions, the girls were not in a hurry and utilized the full hour.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2635364]But if somebody know a good salon, where their only (or at least main) product is the good old sex, please post here, I will got there with pleasure.[/QUOTE]You will need good Russian skills to navigate to such salons as they have discreet entrances and it can get challenging to access these doors / gates without proper communication skills. You can take the help of taxi driver to get there though who are mostly central Asians.

Was in Moscow for 5 days back in October 21. Stayed in 5-star hotel on Tverskaya. Plan was to visit salons choose from a line up. In these days texted about 20 Salons and Indy's (in Russian) but mostly got no reply. Started to wonder why so many ads on rusdosug etc if the women aren't responding. If there was a reply they send pics of girls who look nothing like the ads and not worth it for the prices quoted which are around 8000/ hour straight sex. Extras cost more. Did go to one apartment near Arbat, on the phone she lied and said 5 young girls available. But when I turned up just one skinny Stan girl only skin and bones looking unhealthy so didn't do any business.

Moscow didn't live up to p4 p expectations. Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.

Left Moscow for SP by myself. A bit better for p4 p but not much (see my SP report).

Returned to Moscow to fly back. But had a date with a girl 20 years younger which went well. Cancelled flight stayed a few more days with new girl. 8 hours non-stop sex first night with whisky and room service. Loads more sex next two nights. BBBJ, CIM, uncovered anal. Free. Yes I took her to top restaurants and bars. Satisfying to get this from a local non-pro in her mid 20's.

MILF worked out I was seeing someone else and went crazy on the phone. Do I give a fuck? No! As if these women don’t use men every day for free meals and social life going around having dozens of dates. Refused to meet the MILF in case she goes ballistic in public. Well, what can you do but manage the situation!

So p4 p didn't work for me in Moscow but was lucky to get two locals for free. Nice city but too cold for me this time of year.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2657511]Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.[/QUOTE]That is very interesting, how did you found her?

[QUOTE=AluHut;2657525]That is very interesting, how did you found her?[/QUOTE]Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.

The recommendations I can make are:

- Spend time to get to know who writes. There a mix between agencies, independent escort, serious women (looking for husband) and easygoing girls (with support).

The border between escort and girl with support is tiny but clearly exists on Mamba.

- Escort: not a big deal, from 8 K rbls per hour to 50 K, it is a market place where you find what you want.

- Easy-going girl with support: AMOF Russian women like being treated like Princess. They like beautiful places, champagne, good dinner, flowers. If you give this, you will get hot sex in return. But sometimes it is borderline as the same easy going girl will ask 15 K rbl for a dinner with you. She is not an escort but she likes to meet with sugar daddy who will invite AND give her money to buy things. Do not treat her as an escort, or be ready to forget the after dinner part.

If others have other opinion, interesting to cross.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2658012]Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.[/QUOTE]I haven't used it in ages, but I remember it was quite a trash place where you had to spend hours, or even days to find someone real. Is it still the case? Also, do you communicate in English? I speak quite decent Russian, but my gut feeling tells me I will get better results but not trying to pretend as local.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2657525]That is very interesting, how did you found her?[/QUOTE]Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2658546]Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.[/QUOTE]LOL, some things never change. You got really lucky with her, too bad she reacted like this.